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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/16/2005 6:21:32 AM
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Hi to everybody. I am new here and I would like to share my story: I am 41 years old, Portuguese and divorced. After my divorce I was devasted. During lots of years I had to deal with my husband’s bad temper and public humilliations. To cut it short, a time came when I thought "That’s enough! I don’t need this, I have a good job and I can take care of myself". I asked for the divorce and I left almost everything we had to him. I didn’t want souvenirs! I kept with my life. I work for the Justice in my country and I was busy enough in my job allowing me to have a normal life, not thinking I was a loneler. Then, one day, I did the greatest mistake of my life (I know it now)! I was feeling so lonnely that I posted a profile to have a penpal or a friend. I didn’t want to date, I just wanted someone to talk to and that could understand me from a distance. It was in the summer of 2001 and I forgot about it because meanwhile no one wrote me. In January 2002, I had on e-mail box a message, saying something like "I am an american citizen, currently living and working in Germany and if you want, you can write to me. I’m 49 years old and widowed." Well, I read this but I have to confess I didn’t reply. A week later, the same person wrote again saying "well the e-mails must be so many that you don’t have the time to write" (I think now this was some kind of trap). Well, I wrote him back saying that I was too busy with my work and that was the reason I couldn’t reply before. To cut it short, we started to write each other! He told me he was a widower. Felicia (his wife’s name) died of cancer some years ago. He had three children (one daughter and two boys, all grown up). According to him, his daughter (Cindy) was in the military in Korea and the other two sons were in the US. He told me as well he had grandchildren. He seemed to me he was suffering very much from being a loneler and about his wife’s death. I am a very hearted and trusting person and I felt a huge simpathy for this man. He told me he was in Sttutgart, in the military. In March 2002, he told me he wanted to meet me personally because (and according to his words) I seemed very nice and beautiful. He told me my eyes on the photo were really beautiful. Your face could be on a cover’s magazine, he said. Well, in April, he came to my country and we met. Like what I was thinking, he was a real gentleman! Intelligent and caring at the same time with a vaste general background. We were just friends and while he was here nothing happened between us. Then, a second meeting came and this time was different: I get involved with this man! After it, we had a lot of meetings and he always seemed to me a gentleman, caring. He was spending a lot of time and money to be with me. He gave me several presents. One of them was really expensive. This happens during three years and in spite of some red flags here and there, I was blind enough to give him all my trust, heart, body and soul. Many times he told me: I don’t know how will my daughter react if she suspects I have found someone in my life. She is still very "stuck" to her mother’s memory. Obviously during all this time, there were things I was not understanding. One of them was his kind of job! He told me he was working for the CIA and military intelligence. In November 2002, he went to California, training people, preparing the invasion of Iraq! (It was a lie, later I found out he was there on vacations). When the war started, he told me he was going to be there. I found it strange when during that time he was always in touch with me, by e-mail and phone. I found it strange because in the middle of a war and being doing lots of "uncovered missions" it would be difficult to get in touch. I was surprised but at the same time very happy because I was always in his thoughts. I thought "he really loves me"! I still remember my Godmother had a strange feeling and one day she asked me to call him! I did it and to my surprise when he answered his cell phone and when I told him it was me, he started to say something like "hello, hello, who’s on the phone? I cannot listen... and he hang up"! His voice had a nervous tone! My Godmother looked at me and told me "I hope I am not wrong"! That night he wrote me saying "I couldn’t talk to you on the phone because I was waiting for a call which was going to be monitored! I had to ask my men to cut it off. Lots of love words more and he apologized. I kept believing him to my own stupidity! He was always sending me photos while we were not together! Photos from Heidelberg and lots of castles from Germany. Also pictures of himself in Prague, Switzerland and Austria. He also sent me one photo taken outside by a lake in Chiamsee. He was dressed ceremonial type, with a medal of a condecoration. He told me it was the "Saint Barbara award". One of the things I didn’t notice in that photo, is that on his left hand he was holding a lady’s purse (it was necessary a special software to see it)! We’ve been together in Paris and I can say my "alarm rung" while we were there as well. He was always with his cell phone off (as usual) and from time to time he turned it on, I guess to check messages. One of those times, he had a voice message. He was close to me and I could hear what seemed the sound of a woman’s voice, very nervous and angry. He called back that person and I remember he said "I don’t want to listen to that crap again" and suddenly he started to speak an unknown language to me, maybe a creoule or similar. I know English, French, Portuguese and Spanish and I can spot the other western languages by the sound and fonetic. This one was unkown to me. While he was making that call I thought I needed to go back to Portugal because this man was lying. I started to think why did he rent a car to be with me in Paris if he has his own car? It sounded strange but after hanging on his call, he turned to me and said he was having problems with his men working on the ground and he had to return one day in advance. I asked him if he was sure it was related to his work and obvously he answered "yes". His uncovered missions with his men were very stressfull and dangerous, etc... One of the times he was with me, he told me one of his men died (killed) and that he was feeling guilty of not being there. In the meantime, his daughter was sent to Iraq. Another time, one of his men was bitten by a sand viper in the desert, etc...(I could add a lot more). Then, in November (our last meeting) he told me it was going to be hard to reach him, as he was going to Afghanistan! He told me not to be worried, to live my life normally and keeping writing. As soon as he could, he would get in touch and then I could send him all the letters I had. When Christmas came (wihtout news from him), I decided to call him. It was on Christmas Eve. His phone was on the voice mail and I left a message. He never answered me back. I found very strange that thing on the phone! It was working, so he could call me! I left another message on New Year! Nothing! In the middle of January we could finally talk and he told me he was living with the tribes of the desert and talked about unveilled women in front of him and the ethic codes of those tribes! He had lost 10 kgs. and they wanted him circumcised and a lot more of silly things! I didn’t believe a word and from that moment I started to search for public records. I also payed for some background checks! I wanted to know everything I could about this man. I’ve also used some computer skills and I found some answers: - This man is married (he got married in Las Vegas/Nevada in 07-August-1995). He married at the age of 42; - He stays all his available day and night on the internet (till 4am/5am in the morning). I am pretty sure he is dating with his girlfriends! I don’t know how he can put his feet on the ground if he barely sleeps!; - I believe all his photos he sent me, were taken by another girlfriends (Prague, castles, etc.). If he lives in Germany for so many years why does he need to be always on the tourist circle? One of them was taken by his wife for sure (the one at the lake in Chiamsee); - Maybe and I say maybe, he gets intimate photos from his girlfriends and who knows, he may put them on some site of the Internet. At this point I was lucky because although he tried to have intimate photos from me, I always said no and I believe this was my luck and at the same time one of the reasons he was trying to get rid of me, the other was his marital status; - I found out that he’s a retired Seargent Major and at least during 2002/2004, he was the Chief of Housing for military and civilian personel on Government for the 6th ASG and also dealing with private housind rent in the South of Germany. - I’ve already confronted him but he denies everything. He feels no regret and he blames me for everything since I don’t trust him. He asked me not to harass him (my God, how could I harass a person like that?). One of the times I was confronting him, he pretended he was his son, just not to answer! He doesn’t admit the truth even when we have it right under our nose. At least he could have said "I’m sorry" but he didn’t because his lack of feelings and regret is really something great. To sum up: I was cheated, conned, betrayed by this man (as also his poor wife)! He always faked a gentleman, helping old ladies, giving money to beggars, faking religion but it all makes part of the act. His wife must be some kind of blind/dumb, not suspecting.(?) I don’t know how will I trust someone after that. My heart is closed and I think I don’t want to give my hearth to anyone else. That’s enough! I am a honest woman and frankly I didn’t deserve this. This man lives a fantasy. He fantasizes about Felicia. Who was this woman? Is she his children mother? According that they are aged 32, 29 and 24?... He has a personality disorder for sure, he is a pathological liar. His wife for sure needs help! How can she live with a man faking love, telling stories about fake spy, about his work and for sure having lots and lots of girlfriends? I’m sure that’s what he does. He is always travelling for his "meetings" and I am pretty sure she thinks he travels for work! What an impostor! I really deeply loved that man. It was three years of my life and now he is laughing on me while I’m here trying to dry off my tears between the sadness of wasting three years of my life loving a man and the anger of being lied to the point I was. Thank you.
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| Topic: My story and how I was a dumb!
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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/16/2005 7:59:22 AM
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Thank you Alexander!
I am trying to live the best I can after all those events. I am reading (while I read I don't think) books, I am focused on my hobbies...but whatever I do, he is always present on my mind. I feel ashamed but I have promised to myself that I will get over it. I will go to France next July with friends and in October if everything goes well I may visit some countries of Eastern Europe. It's kind of a treatment.
Thank you and I send you a hug.
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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/16/2005 10:34:49 AM
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| He is on your database since last week. I posted his name on two places: the state where he is on the US and for Germany.
Unfortunatelly I think I will not save another woman. When someone arrives here, generally it's too late but he is there...
One of the things this man never thought of, is that I have too much information that I could send to the public affairs of the 6th ASG, Department of Defense, etc. If I wanted I could place him on a fix, hard for him to get rid of and ruin all his image and prestige he has on the Military but revenge is not my motto, so, I will wait that one day in public, a woman may have the courage to slap him. Who knows? Internet comunication is out for me. I will never trust anyone.
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| Topic: My story and how I was a dumb!
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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/17/2005 6:43:24 AM
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| Hi shattered4good,
Well, I just read your story and all I can tell you is that the world is full of sociopaths.
Although your story is worse than mine, I can tell you there are some similar behaviours between your loser and mine.
1st) Being on classmates.com, trying to be in touch with old school mates, maybe faking the missing after all those long years;
2nd) Porno addiction: although I have no proofs, I have reasons to believe some intimate photos of women are in a website (just have no idea what site can be);
3rd) He blamed you for harrasing (the letter you never heard of), mine asked me not to harass him;
4th) The lack of regret and feelings. Feelings are nothing to them. They act like a lion in a jungle: they find out preys to survive. They need to feed their egos;
5th) That stuff of cybersex: mine tried with me but I remember I told him that was stupid. Knowing he is online till very late in the night, or better, soon in the morning :), what is he doing? If he is not on cybersex, the only thing he can be doing is lecturing some audience on the secrets and brave missions of CIA and Military Intelligence :);
6th) You had the chance to discover a lot of stuff. I couldn't go further because I am a foreigner but what I've paid for and what I've discovered by myself were enough.
One thing I can tell you: the life of a sociopath is like a huge iceberg. We just discover what is visible above the water.
Thank you and cheer up. Those jerks don't deserve the tears we cry for them.
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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/17/2005 12:15:53 PM
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| Shattered,
I was in your website and clicked on the link for Online Women Speak Out. It's very good. In fact, they are better than one famous site about the same thing. Very good!
I also read "Wagons are Circling" and it's disgusting. If he is involved there he may go through a hard time. Will his wife start to "see" what she doesn't want to "see"? Maybe!
Now let me add this: I have some knowledge on how the "nets" for prostitution work. I work for the Justice and I have seen to much during my career. I had the chance to talk to some women and the problem are the places where they came from. Russia, Ukraine, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia are the places where they pick up those victims. We could be talking about it for hours and hours...
Now to Alex because I forgot: I trust blindy my brothers, Godmother and some friends :).
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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/18/2005 12:52:44 PM
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| Arch,It’s so difficult to explain it all, especially when I am not speaking on my mother tongue! The feelings inside me!!You know I had to divorce from my husband not because he cheated on me (as far as I know) but simply due to a bad temper. He was always screaming and whatever I did, nothing was right. According to him I was the most stupid person on Earth. I could never do anything right, all was wrong... Arch, this is what I call humiliation. I remember when I had to go home after working, I was always fearing what could happen. Too many times, on the path to my house I was wondering "What is going to be the problem today?" I started to lose weight. I was getting thinner and thinner because I hardly could eat due to almost my nervous breakdown. The food wasn’t going to the stomach due to some knot. One day I told him that all the love I felt was gone and that I was not going to live all my life that way. He told me I could do whatever I do, he would never sign me the papers for the divorce. I told him I didn’t care because all I wanted was to be very far from him. I went to live with my Godmother and gave him almost everything. I’ve picked up my clothes, my books, some personal objects and said him goodbye. Some weeks later he waited from me at my job. Believe me, he was crying like a baby asking me to return. I almost said yes but I had the courage to say NO. Finally, he signed the papers for the divorce and I was free but I want to add again he never cheated.He didn’t get married till now. Almost two years later I met the scumbag (the main character of the story I posted) and it was even worse to me. This one cheats. This one leaves a trail of lies and deception behind him. I have no words to describe his behaviour. The courage this scumbag showed on Desert Storm, getting condecorations doesn’t clean the image of a loser in terms of personal relationships. He is married and during three years he faked a widower talking about his late perfect wife: so beautiful, so perfect, always on fashion and very strong. One day he told me a story how she was crying when he had to leave for so many months. I still remember his words saying she couldn’t hold on the tears and how it broke his heart. "In some manner you make me remind her. You’re so alike" - he said. Oh boy! She is alive and well and he just got married in 1995!!!!! He is retired and not in the active! Oh God this hurts! And this man is not on his twenties. He is on his fifties, so, where is the decency?I have no more comments to all this! Shame on him!But let me tell you that you are a very sweet and strong woman. You nursed your husband even after he left you. That’s remarkable. I don’t know too many women who had the stomach to this. You showed a greatness of soul difficult to find nowadays and especially on our western societies. I believe you will find some kind of compensantion. You know Arch, God doesn’t sleep!Going back to me I know I have some strength inside me. I was raised since I was born with my godparents. My godfather used to be one of the most correct men I knew in this world. Although he was severe, he taught me not to fear and to be strong. He passed away in 1999 but he left me this legacy. It may sound stupid saying it here but when I need, I "visit him" in that strange house of white marble and I get stronger. This forum is about men and he was a Man with capital letter.Thank you
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| Topic: PAYBACK TIME......
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| Subject: PAYBACK TIME...... - Posted: 4/20/2005 8:35:15 AM
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| Hey pozone,
Like LLM I would like to hear the stories you might have had with those jerks.
When you have the time please post them here. I am very curious. Those guys have one thing we cannot blame them: they are not hiding their marital status (as far as I understood).
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| Topic: Thailand Cheating
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| Subject: Thailand Cheating - Posted: 4/20/2005 8:58:51 AM
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| I hope this woman burns in Hell one day. Some people have a lack of moral values, integrity, etc.
It's not only in Thailand unfortunatelly.
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| Topic: The Wagons Are Circling
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| Subject: The Wagons Are Circling - Posted: 4/20/2005 9:02:52 AM
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| Shatered
Did you read the post on Asia/Other/Thailand Cheating?
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| Topic: Its picture time!!! :)
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| Subject: Its picture time!!! :) - Posted: 4/20/2005 12:28:35 PM
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Oh, I'm sending too the only two pics I have on my hard drive.
The first was taken some months ago and my hair was too bunky :(

This one was from ten years ago.
Hope you won't get scared :)
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| Subject: The Wagons Are Circling - Posted: 4/20/2005 12:42:57 PM
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Yeah, I knew you read that.
You know, there is a chance she was writing to your ex. Name and city match. Who knows?
Try to calm down! There is nothing you can do from now on. This is a delicate matter for the police whether or not he's involved.
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| Subject: The Wagons Are Circling - Posted: 4/20/2005 12:48:51 PM
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You know, I've changed the browser and something silly happened. I was browing with Opera and it showed Alexander as being the poster for Thailand Cheating but now being with IE, I can see it was you the poster!
So, it was a silly question :) I cannot browse the site with Opera!!
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| Topic: Its picture time!!! :)
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| Subject: Its picture time!!! :) - Posted: 4/20/2005 1:11:16 PM
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Oh thank you Alexander! Believe me I don't like too much how I look at the photos :)
The top one was taken in Lisbon.
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| Topic: Its picture time!!! :)
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| Subject: Its picture time!!! :) - Posted: 4/20/2005 2:29:40 PM
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Oh thank you Alexander! Believe me I don’t like too much how I look at the photos :)
The top one was taken in Lisbon. |
Well, I disagree, Nani you are indeed a beautiful woman.
Lisbon is in Spain...Portugal...? |
Alexander,
Lisbon is the capital of Portugal. Portugal and Spain are two different countries. Although we have common borders (East and North) Portuguese and Spanish are very different. Generally American people tend to think Portugal is a region of Spain. No, Portugal is an independent country! It is the second oldest country of Europe, after England. We are a country since 1083. By that time Spain was just a group of Kingdoms with different Kings: Navarra, Leon, Castilla, Asturias, etc.
So, I hope nobody will never mislead again this. :)
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| Subject: Its picture time!!! :) - Posted: 4/20/2005 2:43:05 PM
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| Alexander wrote: |
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Oh thank you Alexander! Believe me I don’t like too much how I look at the photos :)
The top one was taken in Lisbon. |
Well, I disagree, Nani you are indeed a beautiful woman.
Lisbon is in Spain...Portugal...? |
Alexander,
Lisbon is the capital of Portugal. Portugal and Spain are two different countries. Although we have common borders (East and North) Portuguese and Spanish are very different. Generally American people tend to think Portugal is a region of Spain. No, Portugal is an independent country! It is the second oldest country of Europe, after England. We are a country since 1083. By that time Spain was just a group of Kingdoms with different Kings: Navarra, Leon, Castilla, Asturias, etc.
So, I hope nobody will never mislead again this. :)
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I agree, many Americans tend to blend the two together, our own country does a good job of insulating what we know about other countries. I bet just your T.V. programs alone are far less censored than our own...

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Yeah, there is no censorship in Portugal at any kind since 1974.
Between 1928 and 1974, unfortunatelly we were a dictatorship. Nowadays we are a fully democracy and a member of the European Union.
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| Topic: Need Help..
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| Subject: Need Help.. - Posted: 4/23/2005 3:14:18 PM
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| jml24 wrote: | | He has not had contact with her for 7 months now. She still calls sometimes but he does not answer the phone. I am a very smart person..2 colledge degrees, I don’t have any peace about what to do and that is why i thought other people could help. Thanks |
Do you have any idea why she is still calling to him?There are two issues here that I didn’t understand.When she started to call you, was it with the purposal of just warning you, or do you feel she was calling just to make you feel bad to the point you would divorce your husband?What did your husband promised her while he was dating her? I believe due to the circunstances he promised her nothing but there is the chance she suffers from some personality disorder. What your husband did wasn’t right but if he wants to stay with you, he needs to tell her (if she calls again)loud and clear he is no longer interested.It’s up on him now. If you feel he is not done with her, then you have to start thinking in your life.If he’s done with her but she keeps calling what I can say is that this woman needs help. She cannot realize it is over.So, summing up there are two different situations here. It all depends!This is how I see this.Good luck!
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/23/2005 3:36:04 PM
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| anna wrote: | | I am 26 and have been married for a year and a half. I recently caught my husband going to massage parlour and calling escorts. He says that he wants no part of that lifestyle and that he wants to change. He told me he used to go to those places because he was depressed with his life and thought I would not understand and going to those places was an escape for him. I resent him so much and when I look at him I think of what he did and it makes me sick to my stomach. We recently moved to the USA from Canada to make a fresh start. I have so much trouble trusting him amd i doubt everything he does and says.We have gone for counselling he is on medication and he is trying to be a better person but I just cant let go.. Its been 4 months... Any advice??? |
Hey anna,I am sorry you go through this just being married for a year and a half.Counselling is a nice idea. Make sure he is on medication.Now, allow me to ask (I am a curious person, so please don’t get me wrong), did it happen just once? Do you have any idea if he did the same before getting married? Anyway, keep on counselling but on my humble opinion you need to know his past behaviour. What I know about depressions is that people lose sex appetite. One thing that you must be aware is that under medication he will not be too much in the mood for sex. It doesn’t mean he is still cheating on you. You need to be patient and give time to time.Good luck!
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| Topic: The Lying Game
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| Subject: The Lying Game - Posted: 4/23/2005 3:42:05 PM
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| A nice article Shattered but unfortunatelly is not only in New York! This is an epidemic spread all over the world!
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| Subject: My story and how I was a dumb! - Posted: 4/23/2005 4:01:17 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | | Also, lend your advice to others in need. It really helped me to move forward. |
Krismiss, you were so right! It really helps being here lending my advice to others, even if them are just based on what it seems to me without too much information. It helps move forward.
Thanks.
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/25/2005 5:40:03 AM
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Alexander,
Is it possible to delete this post with the answers?
That's because I think we all fell here on a "trap" :).
Like the French say "Trop bon, trop con".
I am a very new member here but I cannot stand those little jerks trying to fool us with these disgunting "tricks".
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| Subject: Need Help.. - Posted: 4/25/2005 6:36:40 AM
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| The girl called me because she told him that she was tired of him going home to me all the time. He says that it started as a one night stand and she told him she would call me and tell me. She lied about a lot of things, I have her conversations on tape. She even got a tatoo on her leg with his name 3 months after he broke it off with her. He said he thinks she has a split personality. She is 28 or 30 and she has been married 3times and has 2 children with different fathers one of which is in jail. Plus she was fat and ugly...that is the part that really bothers me..i am very pretty and small..i saw her one time; he told me she was fat and ugly and not even remotely nice...she was a bitch! She really seemed like white trash to me..i mean anybody that would call and call over and over again has got to be crazy. She said she loved him. |
Jml24,
I think you should change your phone number. According to what you said, your husband is done with her and it is a fact she is a little bit crazy.
The best way to deal with it is making impossible all communications between you and her.
I also hope your husband will learn from that experience. Sometimes cheating has a high price to pay.
Now something I would like to add about the fact she is ugly and fat: I work with men! I am the only woman on a sea of men. I listen to their comments all day long. One of the things I’ve learned is that when they are with a woman just for sex, they don’t care too much if she is ugly or not. They say it is simple. They don’t need to look to her face!
(Hope you can understand me! I am a foreigner and I know my English is not the best)
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| Subject: Bulls Balls... - Posted: 4/25/2005 7:28:51 AM
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| Hahaha! That’s hillarious!!! But kind of disgusting in a way. ;) |
Disgusting true, but in the arguement "man vs. nature" nature wins! I like seeing men get stomped by the bull, a small victory for a creature that will end up on the dinner table... |
Yeah nice joke... now, you please tell me why do so many Americans go to Pamplona just to run away from the bulls?
Now you know the Spanish really like bullfightings. They think it is a brave act. When a bullfighter kills the bull, there is an orgasm all over the audience! They want to reverse nature: a man can have power over a stronger animal. It is really disgusting!
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| Topic: Traveling Angels
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| Subject: Traveling Angels - Posted: 4/25/2005 7:50:02 AM
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Life is a paradox. Three years ago, the man who brought me happiness and self confidence back, sent me this (among some more).
Three years later, I found out he was a great liar and cheater.
It was hard to read this again. This is beautiful however it was used by a man to lie to me.
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| Topic: Everything Happens For A Reason
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| Subject: Everything Happens For A Reason - Posted: 4/25/2005 7:54:38 AM
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My God,
Like in "Travelling Angels" my ex, also sent this to me.
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/25/2005 10:55:46 AM
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| Alexander wrote: | | Nani1963 wrote: | Alexander, Is it possible to delete this post with the answers? That’s because I think we all fell here on a "trap" :). Like the French say "Trop bon, trop con". I am a very new member here but I cannot stand those little jerks trying to fool us with these disgunting "tricks". |
I agree that this is spam, however I have my hands tied unless it becomes hateful, racist, etc... There has been an influx of these "one-timers" lately, but they give away clues, without saying, do you know how to tell this one is spam? I got it just after reading your post... the best we can do is look for clues, If you see the clues, dont write,dont say it...go ahead and act. They are getting easier to point out, which gives rise to the limited imagination. Its pathetic, you’d think they’d be more clever. What does the French phrase mean? |
The clue here is the story itself. On my third reading I got it. I know due to the circumstances of my life, I am a very suspicious person but if I were a man I would put my balls under a guilloutine this is spam.
She posted 48 hours ago and she didn't get back! When I doubt I may answer but I ask something. I did it and...nothing.
"Trop bon, trop con" literally means "very good, very stupid". It stands to the fact when you are a good person and try to help others, the answer you get is some deception, people were just using you.
If I am wrong and she gets back showing this was a true post, then I will present her my apologies.
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/25/2005 3:16:53 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | | I don’t think this is a false post. Lots of people have posted once, never to return again. I think sometimes people don’t really want the advice, they just want a place to vent. |
You maybe right but I still have my doubts.I will apologize if I am wrong.
Thanks anyway.
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/26/2005 12:36:18 AM
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Anna,
I really apologize deeply. It was all my fault! Due to time difference I just saw it now. I said if I were wrong I would apologize and that is what I am doing. Keep venting because I know you need.
I also apologize the other members because I really thought this post was spam.
Sorry Anna.
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/26/2005 8:39:48 AM
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| Anna,
Once again I am sorry. I really thought your post was spam. I can see now I was wrong, so, I am feeling a little responsible for the incident. Hope you can forgive me!
You said in the place you're coming divorce is looking on a negative way. I can understand you. Twenty years ago, it was the same here in my country. Now, unfortunatelly is a common event in society. I say unfortunatelly because it would be good if people never needed to divorce. That would mean we were living on a better world.
About your situation, you gave me some clues. In my opinion it won't be easy.
I think Shattered was very helpful to you on her post.
What can I say? I am sorry you're living such a situation. Be strong and demand all the respect you need. If I were in your shoes I would have a very serious conversation with him, trying to clarify something that for me is very important: the respect!
Go Anna and be strong! I am sending you a hug!
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| Topic: Traveling Angels
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| Subject: Traveling Angels - Posted: 4/26/2005 8:52:18 AM
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| Yeah Shattered,
Why they do this? I think I have read something about it. Maybe you can find something and let us read. Today I bought a book called "The pathological personalities" by Quentin Debray and Daniel Nollet. Maybe I will find some answers.
Thank you
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| Subject: Traveling Angels - Posted: 4/26/2005 11:59:35 AM
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| Harley wrote: | | wondering if I should’ve even posted this thread..so much negative when it was suppose to be a positive... |
Hey Harley,
Don't think like that. This thread is nice. It's not your fault that someone may use this to gain trust.
When I first read this, I felt a knot but believe me there are more threats here that I've also received from him.
Thanks and keep posting these positive thoughts!
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| Topic: my affair man was a sexual perpetrator
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| Subject: my affair man was a sexual perpetrator - Posted: 4/26/2005 12:07:06 PM
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Hi,
Did you already try a kick on the right place? ;)
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 4/26/2005 12:42:33 PM
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What about puffy eyes? I have pockets under my eyes (genetic). I’ve tried everything I could, some were very expensive but nothing seems to work.
Does anyone here know anything good? I’ve tried Galénic, Vichy, Dior, Sthendal, etc...
Thanks
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| Topic: Need Help..
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| Subject: Need Help.. - Posted: 4/26/2005 1:57:15 PM
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| Ciarrah3 wrote: | | I am surprised she didn’t scream that she was pregnant! |
I agree with you!
She is a stalker but obviously not clever, otherwise she could have said so.
I bet this woman is going to put herself on a fix in the future.
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| Subject: my affair man was a sexual perpetrator - Posted: 4/26/2005 2:19:14 PM
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| Ciarrah3 wrote: | I am sorry but this post makes no sense to me... You maintained a friendship for over 5 YEARS with someone who had been making you feel uncomfortable about their advances, and you want to know if they have some sexual issues? 
Uah... err.. excuse me... but um yes yes I would say this person most assuradly does. I didn’t know 83 year old men could be that horny... Ewww.... Yuck! But I wonder if this post is real... The wife’s genitals were "cooked" by radiation?... ok... |
Forget about the post here and I can tell you that an old man can be very horny.
There was an old man caught (almost on his 80's that used to rape women).
Have you ever heard of men who generally are hidden watching at couples inside cars? Generally they are very aged.
Yeah I know it's disgusting!
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 4/26/2005 2:23:26 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: | | Nani1963 wrote: | What about puffy eyes? I have pockets under my eyes (genetic). I’vetried everything I could, some were very expensive but nothing seems towork. Does anyone here know anything good? I’ve tried Galénic, Vichy, Dior, Sthendal, etc... Thanks |
My sister has the same problem and she has tried alot of different creams.Try sleeping on a slight incline to prevent fluid from pooling under the eyes during sleep,cold compresses may help too.
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Thanks Chick, I will follow your advice.
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 4/27/2005 12:38:58 AM
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| krismiss wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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What about puffy eyes? I have pockets under my eyes (genetic). I’ve tried everything I could, some were very expensive but nothing seems to work.
Does anyone here know anything good? I’ve tried Galénic, Vichy, Dior, Sthendal, etc...
Thanks |
I guess cucumber slices aren’t cutting it, eh?
The Body Shop used to make a great eye gel, but I don’t know if they still carry it.
I have the dark circles under the eyes- no puffiness except for when I cry incessantly.
Do you eat a lot of salt? I heard this contributes to eye puffiness. |
You're right about the salt. It may be one of the reasons for puffiness but I don't use too much salt at home. The problem is that at lunch time I eat at restaurants and you know, we have no control on the amount of salt used.
For a long time I don't use refined salt on food as well. I use instead what is called "the flower of the salt", the first particles that come to the water's surface during the process of crystallization, always in a small amount not only because of it but also because it's better to health.
I know the gel from Body Shop. I've used it in the past, it refreshes the eye area. I think they still carry it.
For dark circles there is a fantastic gel, not very expensive called Innoxa. It's great.
Thanks
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| Topic: The Open Toed Shoe Pledge :)
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| Subject: The Open Toed Shoe Pledge :) - Posted: 4/27/2005 8:39:12 AM
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| Oh that one made me laugh. Yeah I swear though I do manicure and pedicure!
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| Topic: I am in a relationship with a married man, what should I do?
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| Subject: I am in a relationship with a married man, what should I do? - Posted: 4/27/2005 8:53:32 AM
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| Bethany M,
You know what? If your post is true his wife should kick you in your ass to the point you would never be able to use it again whether to simply sit on a chair or ...yeah you know.
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| Topic: What do I do? He is chasing my friend!
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| Subject: What do I do? He is chasing my friend! - Posted: 4/28/2005 12:06:08 AM
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| serendipity wrote: | Heres my story... I have been married for 8 years (very happily) we have three great kids and generally life is good. Lately my hubby has been flirting harmlessly with a very good friend of mine. The flirting has increased to the point of very obvious sexual tension between them. I am very upset at her for coming on to my hubby and more upset at him because she is my friend. I am beginning to suspect something is going on with them. He has told me outright he needs to "be" with someone else for the experience but would like to be assured I will be here waiting for him. He only wants a once off sex not an affair.
I am very upset at him and her but dont want my kids to suffer for something he might foolishly do? Do I confront him? Do I confront her?
Help! |
Serendipity,
Your story reveals two interesting points:
1st) A woman that you think is your friend;
2nd) A cheating husband.
On the first point you have to see that friend of yours is not a real friend. How can a close friend be flirting with your husband? What kind of respect has she towards you and your kids? How can she allow your husband to flirt with her? You need to think very well if she is a friend or not. No one needs enemies having friends like her.
On the second point, there is one issue you have to keep in mind. If you accept this situation where your husband says you're the love of his life but on the other hand saying he needs to be with someone else for the experience, you will lose control of everything. If you allow once, you will never be able to stop him.
Now, he is flirting with that suposed friend of yours. At any moment he will get tired of her and he will jump to another. How are you going to stop this?
To finish, I think you should check very well his mouvements without letting him know, otherwise he will get smarter. About that friend of yours, I would never confront her. I would simply stop talking to her. If she aks you why don't you speak to her, you should just answer "You know very well why"!
Good luck!
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| Topic: What do I do? He is chasing my friend!
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| Subject: What do I do? He is chasing my friend! - Posted: 4/28/2005 12:42:48 AM
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An update on my previous post: don’t believe in that bullshit of an "open marriage". It was what he told you. I am pretty sure if you start dating a man, he won’t allow.
I'm glad things are better for you now.
Go woman!
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| Topic: talked to his wife
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| Subject: talked to his wife - Posted: 4/28/2005 1:10:39 AM
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| cutie834 wrote: | | She said she knows him better than that and that she can trust him. Funny, because she was in the room when I witnessed him holding a woman with his genitals touching her. What is it that she can,t see?Now, he is angry at me for telling on him, and she doesn,t believe me. I guess it means that the friendship is over. Maybe I should just have kept my mouth shut. |
Well, you talked to a woman I think must be on her 70's, 80's. She is aged and married to him for a long, long time. She knows very well her husband but she is from a different generation. Her reaction is typical and you shouldn't have had this conversation with her.
It is simple to deal with this type of man. All you have to do (and also the others) is not allowing him to behave that way. You just need to say: STOP!
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| Topic: How do I end it?
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| Subject: How do I end it? - Posted: 4/28/2005 12:04:06 PM
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| In my country you cannot open another person’s e-mail address. There is software to break it but if someone is caught using it, it is on a terrible fix. It’s considered a crime punished with a penalty from 6 months to 3 years. It’s considered a violation of mail like paper mail.Only a law Government institution can make it (like the place I work) but always with an authorization from a Judge. The same applies to phone conversations. There is no difference. Anyway, if I were you I wouldn’t marry this guy! Never in my life. He is cheating now, he will cheat in the future. The other woman is being lied and at some level, you need to understand her although she may be a little bit crazy as well, but, have some mercy...Don’t tell anything to him. Keep your silence and break with him the faster as you can. I know we should never say to anyone to do this. It’s not ethic but that is what you need to do, otherwise you can wait for a life with tears and regret.Good luck!
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| Topic: I need to Vent
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| Subject: I need to Vent - Posted: 4/28/2005 12:57:11 PM
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| Ciarrah,
I never judge things under the googles of the Catholic Church. Out of my mind that :)
Well Ciarrah, you are a grown up person and you are responsible for your acts. If you are with someone else that's because you were not in love with your husband anymore. I just hope he is not suffering because of what you did. The same to your wife's boyfriend.
How was your marriage? My answer can also depend on it. If an intelligent person like you is living with a married man that's because something was wrong with you before. Do you want to vent some more? I will understand you.
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| Topic: How Long Do You Wait Before Sex?
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| Subject: How Long Do You Wait Before Sex? - Posted: 4/28/2005 1:13:12 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | Greg Beherndt, the author of He’s Just Not That Into You, was on Oprah today. He said that women should wait at least two months before sleeping with a man. He stated that men take a long time to develop emotional intimacy and sex will just confuse them. In other words, men will have sex as soon as they can get it, and then sort out their feelings later. If he decides there really is no emotional connection, he will continue to have sex with you and lead you to believe a relationship is developing, although he is not really emotionally connected to you and could walk away at any given moment. Behrendt also said that by postponing sex, you keep the man coming back night after night. It’s the ol’ "challenge theory". Two months, it is then. Good to know! |
I could swear when I read your post these were the words of my old grandmother!
So, can we say older generations were right when it comes about sex? ;)
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| Topic: Cheating lying husband
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| Subject: Cheating lying husband - Posted: 4/28/2005 1:39:46 PM
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| Hi anna,Do you feel things are better now? I am glad.You know he may have some kind of "fétiche". To be very frank to you that is what I believe he has, after reading all your posts.If this is a fétiche, it will be hard for him to get rid of. Only with therapy and lots, lots of counselling.I can be wrong but it must be some "cult" for him. He’s already on treatment and that is the first step! The second step? You need to be very patient.
Do you have relatives or friends living close to you? They may help you when you think the world is going to fall down over your head.
Good luck. Keep being strong!
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| Topic: talked to his wife
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| Subject: talked to his wife - Posted: 4/29/2005 5:03:37 AM
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| aussiegem wrote: |
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i had an old man try groping me and cornering me in a very small apartment i lived in when i was 17 years old, i was so scared he was going to rape me and i think he wouldve if he had of been stronger. it was sickening and made my skin crawl, i was scared as hell but fortunately coz he was old i was stronger and fought back. i came close to pushing him over the balcony when he tried to grab me as i ran outside. its a horrible feeling and disgusting for a man of that age to behave like that. his sons were same way from what i heard. hes just lucky i didnt have a knife close at hand. |
This is more common than what we think. Generally they try to force "the act" because they are aware a very young woman doesn’t want a so aged man.
Some of these old men can also be pedophilics. Some use force, others try to "buy" the victim especially when they come from lower classes.
If they are married what can an old woman do? Most of them are models at home and great fathers! This is unbelievable but it’s true whether we want to believe it or not.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 4/29/2005 2:42:17 PM
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I found it some time ago on the internet. I think it is good to share it here as it can help someone to understand some facts related to cheating, lying, abuse and God knows what else... I have been reading a book called "Phatolical Personalities" and it is helping me a lot, understanding what happened to me, for instance. Sometimes, knowledge is power as we can guess the next step.
"A number of mind-manipulating cult leaders may exhibit many of the behavioral characteristics of a sociopath--an outstanding ability to charm and seduce followers. Since they appear apparently normal, they are not easily recognizable as deviant or disturbed. Although only a trained professional can make a diagnosis, it is important to be able to recognize the personality type in order to avoid further abuse. These traits also apply to a one-on-one cultic relationship.
Glibness/Superficial Charm
Language can be used without effort by them to confuse and convince their audience. Captivating storytellers that exude self-confidence, they can spin a web that intrigues others. Since they are persuasive, they have the capacity to destroy their critics verbally or emotionally.
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right." Craves adulation and attendance. Must be the center of attention with their own fantasies as the "spokesman for God," "enlightened," "leader of humankind," etc. Creates an us-versus-them mentality
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion, it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
While they talk about "God's love" they are unable to give or receive it. Since they do not believe in the genuineness of their followers' love, they are very harsh in testing it from their devotees and expect them to feel guilt for their failings. Expects unconditional surrender.
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge, yet testing the beliefs of their followers with bizarre rules, punishments and behaviors. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. Their skills are used to exploit, abuse and exert power. Since the follower cannot believe their leader would callously hurt them, they rationalize the behavior as necessary for their (or the group's) own "good" and deny the abuse. When devotees become aware of the exploitation it feels like a "spiritual rape" to them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others. The followers only see them as near perfect.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blame their followers or others outside their group. Blame reinforces passivity and obedience and produces guilt, shame, terror and conformity in the followers.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Totalist leaders frequently practice promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts. This is usually kept hidden from all but the inner circle. Stringent sexual control of their followers, such as forced breakups and divorces, removal of children from parents, rules for dating, etc.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future. Many groups claim as their goal world-domination or other utopian promises. Great contrast between the leader's opulent lifestyle and the followers' impoverishment. Support by gifts and donations from the followers who are pressured to give through fear and guilt. Highly sensitive to their own pain and health.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image and that of the group as needed to avoid prosecution and to increase income and to recruit a range of members. Is able to adapt or relocate as needed to preserve the group. Can resurface later with a new name, a new front group and a new twist on the scam.
Other Related Qualities:
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world"
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| Topic: I need to Vent
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| Subject: I need to Vent - Posted: 4/29/2005 5:13:55 PM
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| Your story could be my story from when I was married, taking out the drunk part. I was also working and studying at the same time. My job is a job of long hours and I was the finantial support. That was the reason there were never problems with bills, otherwise I don’t know.The difference was when I left. I just left to be out of that marriage.About the divorce you just need to be sure because I don’t know the law of the place where you live, if your new relationship won’t bring you any kind of problem during the proccess of divorce. He can use it to get any advantage. I am rambling here obviously but he can say in Court you were having the affair while you were still living with him. If I were in your shoes I would be careful unless it will be a "friendly divorce".When we talk about litigation you can expect everything. On my case, I’d rather gave him almost what we had, house included, just to avoid it. His lawyer was clever and his version was full of lies. Just to give you an example, he was about to say I wasn’t taking care of the house, etc. because I was too many hours out. He was also based on the fact that I was more focused on studies rather than him. According to him I didn’t need more studies because I had already a degree. He just forgot that my degree was on Languages and Literature and by that time I was studying forensics due to my job. He said his lawyer maybe I was having an affair in school, which was a terrible lie because I never cheated. If I hadn’t done so, our destiny while together, was to knock on my family’s door to ask for money and that is something I would never do.Ok, this is long. I just gave you some ideas based on my experience.Best of luck
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 4/29/2005 5:33:30 PM
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| shattered4good wrote: | | who is the author of that book? can I get it on Amazon? |
Shattered,
thank you for all the links and information on sites about narcissism, sociopaths and so on.
I don't know the stories of those names you talked about because I live on the other side of the Atlantic.
About the book I'm afraid there is no English version. The authors are French and I bought the Portuguese version.
On the oryginal the book is called "Les Personnalités Pathologiques". The authors are Quentin Debray and Daniel Nollet.
Copyright: Masson, Paris, 2001
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 4/30/2005 7:49:26 AM
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Shattered,
I am putting an eye on the articles you pointed out. In fact they are very interesting.
Just one question. Do you know this book called "The sociopath next door"? The link is here http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/076791581X/104-6155954-3847149?v=glance
I want your opinion because maybe I will buy this book.
Thank you so much

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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/1/2005 8:27:38 AM
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| Konfused wrote: | OMG! Jusst about EVERYTHING in the original post applies to this guy I was unfortunate enough to become involved with! Everything! The quick list at the bottom all applies and when confronted about it, even he knows that he is unable to form attachments to other humans, making him a highly qualified emotional terrorist. which is kind of funny being that he is Saudi and works at their embassy in DC. He is out searching for another "victim" on Yahoo personals. Check him out. Yahoo! Personals -- Better first dates. More second dates. Discover great sing1 He looks so completely normal!! Don’t you think? That is the scariest part about this creepy character! Read lots more about him and what I was put through, down to being followed by scary looking men, in the rate a guy section. |
Konfused,I didn’t have time till now to see if you’d post your story. It doesn’t seem so. I think you should tell your story here. Yes, he is out there trying to know more women. I’ve followed your link and obviously he seems very normal. And I can also add he doesn’t seem "too Saudi" as well. He’s Mediterranean type.What bothers in his post is this "I am very honest and down to earth". This is a red flag! In my opinion a honest person doesn’t need to say "I’m honest".Ok, it would be good to know as well if he was raised in Saudi Arabia or out. You know how men from the Middle East are. It’s cultural. We cannot forget those societies allow a man to marry to more than one woman and they also accept "the male dominance over a woman". As you know a woman in the Middle East in a second class citizen.If you haven’t done so, please post your story!Updating: I don’t like this on his post "Seeks DC Honey". I think it may reveal his personality. If I were on Yahoo personals (and knowing what I know now) I would jump this one out.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/1/2005 8:42:44 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | Yes Nani I know that book - it was written (I believe) by Dr. Robert Hare - also author of PSYCHOPATHS AMONG US. My site has some stuff by him on it: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com |
Shattered,
The author is Martha Stout and I just bought it on Amazon.
Thanks.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/1/2005 2:46:46 PM
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| Hi Konfused,
I was just about to go to bed (it's almost 1am here) when I saw your post. I found your guy on the Rate a Guy Search.
I read it very quickly but it seems to me that there is something smelling fish around him. Yes, he can be a sociopath (I believe he is but I am not a psycho expert).
Tomorrow I am going to post an answer for you based on what it seems to me. I have some ideas!
Post your story here, on the message board for "Catch a Cheater".
Have a nice week, I will be here tomorrow.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/2/2005 10:21:49 AM
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Konfused, Here is my response promised since yesterday. It was too late to answer you. Anyway, here it goes. I will try to be straight on what I think about your involvement with what it seems to me “a nice piece of shit”. If all I can say won’t match, then, I cannot guess what’s this guy deal and what kind of agenda he has. This guy played a complete charade on you. He lied to you! I believe he is really a tremendous psychopath. This man doesn’t know what he wants from life. He is a fusion between the West and the Middle East. His mother is from the UK but to marry a Saudi, she needed to be converted to his religion, or, she was already a Muslim woman living in the UK. He studied in the US, he lived in NY, he works at the Saudi Embassy. He lives like a Western, he thinks like a Saudi! He is using women just for his own gratification. Personally, I DON’T BELIEVE he was six years without sex. What a big lie! I believe he doesn’t have sex on Ramadan. Out of that period, I don’t believe. I bet he has a Muslim girlfriend somewhere. I also believe he will never get married to a Western. It is something related to the “pure”. A Western woman is dirty, she does everything they will never accept. There is also the chance he is married. Who knows if he has a wife in Saudi Arabia? I am rambling but don’t get surprised if he has. You said “he is over the edge about germs”. It may be based on his beliefs. Germs are a product of the West. The West spreads the great diseases and the evil all over! He works for the Saudi Government. OK, he can do whatever he wants! He has what is called “DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY”. He will never be in trouble with the Police for harassment and stalking. Only if he gets caught in the act. Other than that, forget! It’s the International Law. (Unless there is a special agreement between the US and Saudi Arabia). You were toyed on his fashion. He has used his Saudi friends (maybe using the influence he has at the Embassy to find his stupid fellows of the diaspora) to scare you. He wanted you out of his life! You were followed, photographed, etc., just to make you feel scared. They called you all night long! A game to scare you. Once again, I bet he has a Muslim “fiancée” or wife. This can answer why he plays games with women. He is a great cheater and he needs to get rid, no matter how, of his girlfriends. That is why he called you ugly. Don’t care about it. He says the same to all when he gets tired of them. I don’t believe he is something more than a stupid scumbag, piece of shit. His profile doesn’t match what you may suspect. He can be on something illegal related to business, perhaps due to some influence at the embassy. The others, don’t want any noise around them. What you need to do is blocking all communications with him. Don’t answer phone calls and e-mails. If he sends you an e-mail do not open it. He may send an attachement with a keylogger hidden and that’s why he knows what you do on the Internet. Try to install an anti-spyware on your computer and do a full sweep. Some keyloggers are not detected by the anti-virus. Run away and heal your wounds. Sing, dance, go out to parties! The scumbag wants to get rid of you? Good for you! Imagine how fortunate you are compared to a poor woman who may be dating him or even worse: married! Chalk it up to experience! Do never try to contact him! There is no possible dialogue with a sociopath. It’s a game you will ever lose! If possible change your phone number. I am afraid you can do nothing for the women on Yahoo Personals! You can post your story on all places available although I know you are afraid and I understand. For now, smile, lift your face and breathe deeply. You are not alone! I understand how much you have suffered but IT’S OVER. He will never bother you again. I’ve learned when a scumbag wants to leave us we just need to let them go. Keep being strong!
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| Topic: Finding a Husband?
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| Subject: Finding a Husband? - Posted: 5/2/2005 11:25:53 AM
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| Is this what they teach at Harvard Business School?
This woman just wants to make money! Disgusting!
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| Topic: he lied then called me pshyco
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| Subject: he lied then called me pshyco - Posted: 5/2/2005 11:37:44 AM
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| short_cake wrote: | | well this is my story I moved up to Reno from Las Vegas I have been seeing this guy for 5yrs he made it very clear he still wanted to keep our relationship exclusive. now about a month ago I did not feel he was being totaly honest with me so I did some snooping in his email yes i know that was wrong but what I found he had his profile on passion.com and other single websites i found out about 2 girls and when i asked him about it he told me I was pshyco and never talk to him again I feel after over 5yrs he owes me some kind of explanation I do no know how he can write me off after that long I know its bettter hes out of my life it still hurts but now I am in revenge mode this is someone I was always good to and i feel used |
A normal reaction from a cheater when he gets caught!He called you what he is! Like Shattered said it’s Projection! Don’t expect an explanation! He won’t have one. He will be in silence and/or will keep telling you things that can hurt you.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/2/2005 1:50:35 PM
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She is still afraid of posting a story on a message board. The bunch of Saudis did scare her.
Konfused, I don’t believe they stop on this site. They are checking porno for sure! It is something forbid in their country and when they are out, they want to feed their eyes from the starvation they have in their home land!!! Don’t be afraid!
Shattered,
As usual thanks for your great links. I can translate two chapters from the book I am reading and send it to you, if you want. I just need two or three weekends to do so.

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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/3/2005 12:18:27 AM
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| Konfused wrote: |
I could almost pee my pants when I think about the immunityissue. This probably means that most embassies are hot beds ofcriminal activity and in that one, Yikes! Does anybody know forsure if emb. workers get immunity? I know those guys who sitbehind the signs do which might explain why the brothers who live inSaudi amd the ones here, put money transfers through the fath’saccount! Maybe some levels of immunity are better than others??
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Konfused,
I wouldn’t be so sure on what you may think. I used to be on a relationship during three years with a man who I thought it was a widower. We used to be together during weekends and I could call him at any time. Apparently there was no sign! We could be talking on the IM a whole night! No sign he was married. We had holidays together. Now, ask me how can he be married? Yes, almost impossible but he is and he lives with her!
You also played a game with him. "You wanted to get into his pants..." Lady, you were playing with fire!! You were also playing with him. You learned a lesson.
I understand what you feel but don’t take anything for granted.
About Diplomatic Immunity, I can see you are surprised. It doesn’t mean a person can commit a crime. It’s not that. Nobody can commit a crime but those who have diplomatic immunity CANNOT BE ARRESTED by the host country. Yes, a person who works at an embassy has Diplomatic Immunity! It doesn’t seem to me your guy is the one who cleans the bathrooms there :).
It’s the Convention of Vienna. The law is from 1961!
Check this link and read http://wordiq.com/definition/Diplomatic_immunity
Stay away from him and next time you got involved with someone, place your feelings first.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/3/2005 7:11:32 AM
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| Konfused wrote: |
Let’s just say I know about the mar. staus because when things startedlooking really, really scary I had people who know how to check stuff,check all the stuff out. Also, no evidence of g/f’s. I’llbet it’s bugging the crap out of him that I have not called crying oremailed at all. He expected me to. I guess I packed quite awhallop on truedater, they emailed me with a "you da girl". Itmade me smile. I was on here reading abusesanctuary last night,specifically about narcissism. He is in the picture dictionaryfor this but I have known about this for a while. In my reading,it even offered why he broke it off when I discovered the datingsite. One who I go to see now specifically because of what thishas done to me says that from everything I have ever said, the guy is asociopath (psycho and socio are interchangable and mean the samething). Narcissism is just one half of it. N’s have noempathy. The other half is sociopathy. They have noconscience.
Mostly, any advice anybody could offer about how to pick myself up andfeel womanly and attractive in the wake of this would be great.
You guys rock!
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You know, I think Shattered sent you nice links for you to check and read.
Understanding the anti social personality is half way for you to start being another woman. Next time, you will have your eyes wide open.
You are still atractive regardless of what he did to you. If he knew you were questioning your womanly and attraction because of him, he would be very smugged and happy. You don’t want this, do you? You are the same woman and wiser now: you’ve learned how to spot a guy with a personality disorder.
Any time you need come here to vent!
Good luck
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| Topic: This time around Im the
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| Subject: This time around Im the - Posted: 5/4/2005 9:27:57 AM
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| She is using you the same way you used a girl in the past. She is on this relationship just for sex. With the husband out and very far away she acts like a free woman and it is obvious she is a cheater by temper. Let’s imagine this scenario: one day she divorces from her husband to marry you. She may cheat on you too. Be careful. You don’t know how will her husband react when he finds out everything.
And that story about her husband cheating on her too. Sounds like a big lie. Where is his girlfriend? In Iraq? Think about it!
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| Topic: This time around Im the
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| Subject: This time around Im the - Posted: 5/4/2005 11:41:13 AM
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| Mr B wrote: | | Her friends say to leave him now and her mom says to just deal with it until she graduates and is in a position to take care of herself without him. Because of her mom’s feelings she is not going to tell her about his cheating although she did tell her about me.... Considering her age and what’s going on here (and I’m not the first) I doubt she knows just what’s involved in a real relationship. |
Ok, if I understood it right (sorry I’m a foreigner) she talked to her mom. She didn’t tell her about the husband’s cheating not to hurt her but she told about you.Maybe I am too suspicious but something tells me she didn’t have had exactly this conversation with her mom. I don’t know, it’s my intuition working here. About the so supposed husbands’ cheating...well maybe something had happened. He was out for ten months, right? Being a man, kindly tell me if you believe he was castrated during that time. He had sex with someone, I believe it (not exactly an affair) but it doesn’t give her the right to blame him the way she is trying to do JUST to justify her cheating with you. In Iraq, for sure there are also prostitutes...In my country we have a saying "throwing sand to the eyes". This is what she is doing, she is throwing sand to your eyes".Sorry to be that straight :)About trying to find someone online I just can say: be careful! The online dating is like a wolves’ cave. Eyes wide open! So many cheaters there to be true, male and female.
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| Topic: Isnt everybody #$%@d up?
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| Subject: Isnt everybody #$%@d up? - Posted: 5/4/2005 12:11:03 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | There is even a small group of people who do not really want to get better. Their misery provides them comfort and they hang onto their ailments like security blankets. They oftentimes will blame others for their problems and will focus on how they were done wrong. They will go to therapy, but they will never get better. They choose to live miserably. |
I don't know if this group of people is in fact so small as it seems. I know people who are under treatments on psychiatrists and I cannot see any difference. I see them taking a lot of medication only.
Therapy just works for those who really want to be treated and like you said, having the baggage to go on.
Those examples can also be found on drug addicts. They are sent to treatment but only a few will be clean of drugs. Only those who have the will to go through the physical pain because of the drug's lack, will get clean and ready to face a new life.
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| Topic: Canadian Govt looking for a few good..................
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| Subject: Canadian Govt looking for a few good.................. - Posted: 5/4/2005 12:26:41 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | | What constitutes a "good man"? Yes, he would obviously have some generosity of spirit, but does he also have to pass IQ and health tests? Will they be doing criminal background checks on these guys? I don’t know what the criteria are for clinics where guys get paid, but I assumed that they at least had criteria. If I wanted a sperm donor, I would want the creme de la creme of sperm (No pun intended). |
Your "crème de la crème" made me smile. Well, just to tell you that at the University of "Santiago de Compostella", in Northern Spain, there is a clynic recruiting males and females studying at the University, for sperm and eggs donation. Those who answer go to a deep medical check. If they found them ok to donate they get paid a generous amount of money. Enough to have their studies paid. The donation is anonymous and there is no chance to know who was the donor.
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| Topic: Understanding deception and exploitation
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| Subject: Understanding deception and exploitation - Posted: 5/4/2005 12:53:38 PM
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| Konfused,I want to update my posts based on what you wrote on another database. I am starting to believe he may have some enemies. It must be related to business (passing money through some bank accounts).The guys who followed you, are perhaps those enemies and not exactly a bunch of friends. You know, sometimes a little detail can change everything.It must be some point of a huge iceberg. Do not try to figure it out. Just keep yourself very far from him.
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| Topic: Isnt everybody #$%@d up?
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| Subject: Isnt everybody #$%@d up? - Posted: 5/5/2005 6:53:52 AM
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| krismiss wrote: |
| Are drugs a big problem in Portugal, Nani? |
Drugs here are a problem like in the other countries of Europe. We just have the problem of our geographical position. We are an entry country to Europe for those who travel from the American Continent. Flights from Colombia, for instance, need to be deeply checked.
I can tell you that last week, we had to deal with a Colombian girl en route to Spain, who swallow some packets of cocain. She could have died if they’d opened in her stomach while flying.
About the number of drug addicts, maybe it is now under control. But there is still a very high number and I am talking about the heavy drugs addicts. I am excluding the light drugs, like marijuana. We have the locals and now there is also an increasing problem among some foreign communities especially Africans.
It affects all us here as the Government has a plan to treat those who want. The money spent on methadon to replace the heroin, for i.e., is a serious issue. Methadon can be even more expensive than the drugs itselves.
So, indirectly from our taxes we all paid this!
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| Topic: Need some more Advice
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| Subject: Need some more Advice - Posted: 5/5/2005 7:12:14 AM
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Anna,
I never heard from a massage parlour without sex in the middle. Those places are known as "places for sex" and I think it is the same all over the world.
To tell you something more I wanted to know if this a legal or illegal activity in the US.
You don't need to know more than what you know by now. You don't need more pain.
I've already told you on the other threat this is a very big problem to deal with, as this is a fétiche your husband suffers.
Anna, be strong and keep counselling. Do you notice any difference in your husband behaviour?
Tell us something more.
Big hug
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| Topic: cheating of not?
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| Subject: cheating of not? - Posted: 5/5/2005 12:57:37 PM
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| Well how I wish I could be a 19 year old!Ok girl, I cannot say if he is cheating or not but there is one thing I can tell you for sure. Your boyfriend doesn’t respect you at all.His girl friends on the car, must be crazy! Blowing you a kiss? They must be too young as well.I use to say "tell me who are your companions and I can tell you what you are".Next time don’t waste your time calling him "nice things", like f*** you. Just turn your back and forget about him.Tell him to buzz off! You are both too young I can see. There are too many boys out there!You are too young to be worried. Try to find someone who respects you.
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| Topic: Pregnant and Miserable
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| Subject: Pregnant and Miserable - Posted: 5/5/2005 1:10:35 PM
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| What a nice selfish husband you have! I can understand how are you feeling.
Leaving you while you're pregnant of 8 months? I have no comments.
The others here have already said the right things. I cannot add anything new.
Good luck!
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| Topic: Must Watch Movie
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| Subject: Must Watch Movie - Posted: 5/5/2005 1:41:52 PM
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| Lady1981 wrote: | My parents are coming to visit on Sunday for Mother’s Day. I will remind them to bring the magazines I get in the mail at their house. Every issue is full of unbelievable stories of what actually goes on in the world. We are luckier than we could ever imagine here. Sure, we get mad at the president or the governemnt, but we actually have the right to get mad at them. We have the right to question, lobby, and petition our leaders. In many countries, if they even attempted to do what we can do here, they’d be killed. I hope you all will consider signing the petition that Krissmiss has posted. It may not seem like much, but it will get to the desk of our president and your voice will be heard. |
You’re right Lady!You and I, we can talk about politics. We can quest decisions from the Government. We have one powerful thing at hands: the vote!For a long time ago, I know the only "right places" in the world to live are North America, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand.The others have big problems to solve. Some have no democracy, some are too poor to be true...I am lucky enough to live on a place of the world where mass media aren’t under control. We have an accurate idea of what is happening in the world and I tend to watch all the programs showing what’s going on outside. It’s not only Sudan or Darfur. There was a genocide in East Timor and no one cared about. Now they are an independent country because a population from a small country from Europe started to press the rest of the world for the problem.As living in democracies, it’s our duty. We need to press our Governments, always, otherwise we have the power of the vote.
By the way, our Mother's Day was the past Sunday.
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| Topic: Breaking Point
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| Subject: Breaking Point - Posted: 5/6/2005 8:20:13 AM
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| Jumba_lia,
Congratulations! Someone who thinks like me! Why staying in a marriage just to suffer?
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| Topic: Need some more Advice
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| Subject: Need some more Advice - Posted: 5/6/2005 8:26:55 AM
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| anna wrote: | | Sorry I think I talk too much! To Nani1963... You Know I discussed with my husband if this was some sort of a fetish some kinky thing he was getting there, our psycholgist discuued that wiht him as well but he claims that it is not a fetish that he can control it and that he would admit if it was... He claims that it was an escape from reality from his life and he says that now he realizes that it was never an escape his problems were still there.... It is very difficult to understand for me... The thing is that my husband was abused as a child so I think that he has alot of emotional issues and I think they play a role...... |
Yeah Anna, I understand! He was abused in childhood.
Now just to clarify something: when I asked you if the business was legal or ilegal, I was trying to make some sense on what he told you. It doesn't make sense that a woman from that business would be interested in talking to you.
That's it.
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| Topic: Just a thought
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| Subject: Just a thought - Posted: 5/6/2005 8:30:18 AM
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| anna wrote: | | This is going to make me sound so stupid.. but after everything that I have been through with my stupid husband I wonder are there really nice decent faithful men out there or do you just spend your life moving in other relationships and constanly being hurt.. I think that now if my husband and I seperated I do not think I could ever trust a man again, even with all the counselling I have been through it is just ingrained in me.. I do not know how to trust men.. I find that really depressing Any thoughts? |
I am on the same process as you. Will I be able to trust someone again?
I think I will but I know it takes time.
There are indeed very nice men out there. Don't doubt it. We just need to find them or to be found :)
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| Topic: Ill be traveling May9-May24
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| Subject: Ill be traveling May9-May24 - Posted: 5/6/2005 12:13:38 PM
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Have a nice trip!
While in Morroco are you going to stay just in Marrakesh? Try to go to Fez. It is a very different city in central Morroco. I still have vivid images from there. The streets are so narrow that if you open up your arms you can touch the houses from both sides of the streets.
Try always to wear a pair of jeans. Avoid if at all possible very short shorts or mini skirts. In some places of Marrakesh some guys like to catch us by surprise and put a snake in our necks just to take a photo. They try to sell it! I had a hard time dealing with it! I was always looking back.
Bon Voyage!
On edit: I forgot to say that it was in 1998 and now things can be different. :)
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| Topic: Tomatoes
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| Subject: Tomatoes - Posted: 5/6/2005 2:31:14 PM
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| Krismiss,
I am from a country that has lots and lots of recipees with cooked tomato. What do you like to eat? Maybe I can find you lots of recipees.
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 5/6/2005 2:47:51 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | I thought of another tip that a friend told me about years ago. She said her ex-mother-in-law used to use Preparation H on her neck and still had a perfect neck well into her seventies. I don’t remember to use it every night, but when I do remember, the next morning it does look better. |
Preparation H? I never heard about it. Maybe one day I will try.
I found out one line of very good products for face, eyes and body. It's called "Méthode Jeanne Piaubert" and I can tell this works. They have an eye gel "Irilys" that perhaps it's the best I've ever used. The gel works on dark circles and puffy eyes. It's a relaxing day gel and I notice my eyes are not so puffy. It seems it has some invisible glittering particles reflecting the light and they look too much better. There is also an eye mask. It's a must!
For the face they have an anti-pollution and anti stress, moisturising day fluid or cream, depending if the skin is oily or dry called "Citizen Care". The skin won't shine. It will look maté (maybe bad spell).
For body I use Dove products. Deodorant, gel bath and cream. The gel bath is recomended by doctors.
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 5/7/2005 3:42:40 PM
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I thought of another tip that a friend told me about years ago. She said her ex-mother-in-law used to use Preparation H on her neck and still had a perfect neck well into her seventies. I don’t remember to use it every night, but when I do remember, the next morning it does look better. |
Preparation H? I never heard about it. Maybe one day I will try.I found out one line of very good products for face, eyes and body. It’s called "Méthode Jeanne Piaubert" and I can tell this works. They have an eye gel "Irilys" that perhaps it’s the best I’ve ever used. The gel works on dark circles and puffy eyes. It’s a relaxing day gel and I notice my eyes are not so puffy. It seems it has some invisible glittering particles reflecting the light and they look too much better. There is also an eye mask. It’s a must!For the face they have an anti-pollution and anti stress, moisturising day fluid or cream, depending if the skin is oily or dry called "Citizen Care". The skin won’t shine. It will look maté (maybe bad spell).For body I use Dove products. Deodorant, gel bath and cream. The gel bath is recomended by doctors. |
I like Dove products. Their original scent bar soap is my favorite scent in soap. Unfortunately, they don’t have the same scent in their shower gels. I also use their deodorant. I had a bad allergic reaction to another product and Dove saved me from days and nights of terrible armpit itching. :)
Preparation H is a product for hemorrhiods. It has been suggested for years in the U.S. as an under eyecream. I’ve never had a hemorrhoid and I don’t really want to know too much about them, but apparently Preparation H shrinks them. It supposedly does the same for under the eye and the neck. It tightens those areas, thus making them younger looking.
I never heard of the line you suggested. I wonder if it is available in the U.S. |
Here we have Dove Gel Bath with different scents. I just use the one that says "Dove Original".
For me, it's the best!
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 5/7/2005 3:44:11 PM
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| bunnyluvin wrote: |
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Ithought of another tip that a friend told me about years ago. She saidher ex-mother-in-law used to use Preparation H on her neck and stillhad a perfect neck well into her seventies. I don’t remember to use itevery night, but when I do remember, the next morning it does lookbetter. |
Preparation H? Inever heard about it. Maybe one day I will try.I found out one line ofvery good products for face, eyes and body. It’s called "Méthode JeannePiaubert" and I can tell this works. They have an eye gel "Irilys" thatperhaps it’s the best I’ve ever used. The gel works on dark circles andpuffy eyes. It’s a relaxing day gel and I notice my eyes are not sopuffy. It seems it has some invisible glittering particles reflectingthe light and they look too much better. There is also an eye mask.It’s a must!For the face they have an anti-pollution and anti stress,moisturising day fluid or cream, depending if the skin is oily or drycalled "Citizen Care". The skin won’t shine. It will look maté (maybebad spell).For body I use Dove products. Deodorant, gel bath and cream.The gel bath is recomended by doctors. |
Ilike Dove products. Their original scent bar soap is my favorite scentin soap. Unfortunately, they don’t have the same scent in their showergels. I also use their deodorant. I had a bad allergic reaction toanother product and Dove saved me from days and nights of terriblearmpit itching. :)
Preparation H is a product forhemorrhiods. It has been suggested for years in the U.S. as anunder eyecream. I’ve never had a hemorrhoid and I don’t really want toknow too much about them, but apparently Preparation H shrinksthem. It supposedly does the same for under the eye and the neck. Ittightens those areas, thus making them younger looking.
I never heard of the line you suggested. I wonder if it is available in the U.S. |
I absolutely adore the smell of dove products. I really lovetheir company. It’s ads, its products. Everything about itseems so.... caring or something. Makes me feel all good insideand outside. Okay, I have to finish cleaning. |
Yes, Dove products are really good and are recomended by dermatologists.
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 5/7/2005 3:45:40 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
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Ithought of another tip that a friend told me about years ago. She saidher ex-mother-in-law used to use Preparation H on her neck and stillhad a perfect neck well into her seventies. I don’t remember to use itevery night, but when I do remember, the next morning it does lookbetter. |
Preparation H? Inever heard about it. Maybe one day I will try.I found out one line ofvery good products for face, eyes and body. It’s called "Méthode JeannePiaubert" and I can tell this works. They have an eye gel "Irilys" thatperhaps it’s the best I’ve ever used. The gel works on dark circles andpuffy eyes. It’s a relaxing day gel and I notice my eyes are not sopuffy. It seems it has some invisible glittering particles reflectingthe light and they look too much better. There is also an eye mask.It’s a must!For the face they have an anti-pollution and anti stress,moisturising day fluid or cream, depending if the skin is oily or drycalled "Citizen Care". The skin won’t shine. It will look maté (maybebad spell).For body I use Dove products. Deodorant, gel bath and cream.The gel bath is recomended by doctors. |
Ilike Dove products. Their original scent bar soap is my favorite scentin soap. Unfortunately, they don’t have the same scent in their showergels. I also use their deodorant. I had a bad allergic reaction toanother product and Dove saved me from days and nights of terriblearmpit itching. :)
Preparation H is a product forhemorrhiods. It has been suggested for years in the U.S. as anunder eyecream. I’ve never had a hemorrhoid and I don’t really want toknow too much about them, but apparently Preparation H shrinksthem. It supposedly does the same for under the eye and the neck. Ittightens those areas, thus making them younger looking.
I never heard of the line you suggested. I wonder if it is available in the U.S. |
I think Prep H has been a staple of beauty contestants for years.
Just a tip I got from my gyne..he said to use Ivory soap on the southern parts..he said products like Summer’s Eve Wash (even if it’s for sensitive skin) are not good for you.
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Thank you Chick! ;)
It's always good to know those little things.
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| Topic: Recipes with cooked tomato
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| Subject: Recipes with cooked tomato - Posted: 5/7/2005 3:58:29 PM
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Hope you understand. If not, please tell me.
These are two simple dishes that we cook at home.
CHICKEN WITH PASTA
You need:
- one chicken cut in pieces;
- oil;
- an onion cut in small cubes;
- two tomatos;
- garlic;
- ¼ of a pepper;
- red wine;
- pasta.
Cut the points of the chicken’s wings and remove the skin.The hormones are all there and before you prepare this recipe, put the chicken boiling in a saucepan for 15 minutes. This is just to remove the biggest part of the fat and hormones. Throw that water away. You will see how that water is full of fat.
Now, put a saucepan in the cooker with enough oil just covering the bottom. Add the cubes of the onion. When they start to get golden add one cup of water. Remove some part of the tomatos’ skin (not all because the skin gives a nice taste), cut the tomatos in small pieces and put them in the water. Let it cook a little for 10/15 minutes. Add a little bit of more water and put two teeth of garlic cut in pieces as also the pepper in pieces. Add some red wine (this is just to give some taste as the alcohol is going to evaporate during the cooking).
Add the chicken, if necessary add water.
Put salt. Check the water’s level and if you see there is enough water to add the pasta, that’s ok. If not, add some more water. When it’s all boiling add the pasta. More 10/15 minutes and it’s ready.
My advice is to use curved pasta (kind of macarroni but curved) because it helps to get tasty.
TURKEY FILLETS WITH RICE OF TOMATO AND PEAS
You need:
- Turkey cut for fillets;
- Salt;
- One lemon;
- Cayenne pepper;
- Breadcrumbs;
- Rice;
- One tomato;
- Peas.
Pick up the fillets and put on them salt and the juice of a lemon. Add some cayenne pepper. Let it stay on that marinade for some hours.
To the rice:
Cut an onion in cubes. Put oil on a saucepan just covering the bottom and add the cubes of the onion. When they’re golden add twice the amount of water you have for the rice. For example: for one cup of rice put two equal cups of water.
Add the tomato cut in pieces with the skin removed. Cook a little. Add the peas and after some minutes add the rice.
Pick up the fillets and involve them on the breadcrumbs. Fry them on a frying pan.
Bon appétit.
P.S. Eat always fruit after the meals!
Always you like you can have your meals with a salad of lettuce and raw tomatoes round cut. Add olive oil and a little of vinegar (use cidra apple vinegar instead of wine because it’s healthier).
Just use wine vinegar to wash vegetables.
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| Topic: Tomatoes
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| Subject: Tomatoes - Posted: 5/7/2005 4:09:58 PM
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| krismiss wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
| Krismiss,I am from a country that has lots and lots of recipees with cooked tomato. What do you like to eat? Maybe I can find you lots of recipees. |
Nani,
I don’t eat red meat, but I do eat chicken and turkey. I have food allergies to seafood and mushrooms. I love spicy foods, like Pan-Asian, some African, and Indian. I love vegetables. Other than my food restrictions, I eat just about anything. I try to eat healthy, so foods that are not high in fat are preferred.
I would love if you could post a classic Portugese recipe. I am not familiar with your cuisine at all, so I’m very curious. Thank you. I really appreciate it!
PS- I’m glad you have hung aound to post. It truly does help to get past your own experience, doesn’t it? |
I am going to start from your last statement.
It helps being here posting. I just don’t know if some members understand me. I am a foreigner and it can be an handycap. I know sometimes my English is not very good, especially when I’m tired. Other than my mother tongue, French is my second language. Than comes the Spanish, so, you see, sometimes it’s hard to me.
I am also too straight sometimes. It may be a lacking of "savoir faire" but it's due to my job :)
At the same time, I am also on a Portuguese group for the same stuff.
I am still hoping that one day, another victim of the same guy will post here… ;)
Ok, you have another post with two recipes. It is simple food, cooked mainly at home.
I have more if you like. Do you eat fish?
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| Topic: Beauty and Skincare Products
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| Subject: Beauty and Skincare Products - Posted: 5/7/2005 4:13:57 PM
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| minniemouse9 wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
| krismiss wrote: |
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I thought of another tip that a friend told me about years ago. She said her ex-mother-in-law used to use Preparation H on her neck and still had a perfect neck well into her seventies. I don’t remember to use it every night, but when I do remember, the next morning it does look better. |
Preparation H? I never heard about it. Maybe one day I will try.I found out one line of very good products for face, eyes and body. It’s called "Méthode Jeanne Piaubert" and I can tell this works. They have an eye gel "Irilys" that perhaps it’s the best I’ve ever used. The gel works on dark circles and puffy eyes. It’s a relaxing day gel and I notice my eyes are not so puffy. It seems it has some invisible glittering particles reflecting the light and they look too much better. There is also an eye mask. It’s a must!For the face they have an anti-pollution and anti stress, moisturising day fluid or cream, depending if the skin is oily or dry called "Citizen Care". The skin won’t shine. It will look maté (maybe bad spell).For body I use Dove products. Deodorant, gel bath and cream. The gel bath is recomended by doctors. |
I was watching Oprah awhile back and there was a lady on there who used preparation H under her eyes and she said it really helped with the puffness and the wrinkels i think she used it every night but im not sure |
I will really try this Prep. H.
Thank you all of you.
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| Topic: The Red Flag List: Warning Signs He/She is BAD NEWS
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| Subject: The Red Flag List: Warning Signs He/She is BAD NEWS - Posted: 5/7/2005 4:16:52 PM
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Fantastic post Shattered.
It is all so true.
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| Topic: The Red Flag List: Warning Signs He/She is BAD NEWS
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| Subject: The Red Flag List: Warning Signs He/She is BAD NEWS - Posted: 5/7/2005 4:46:56 PM
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| shattered4good wrote: | Just so you all know, MY personal red-flag criteria?
1. If you have a penis
2. If you are not my brother or one of my nephews
Its that simple.

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Yeah, I can see. Well at some level I am using the same criteria :)
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| Topic: moments of divine inspiration
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| Subject: moments of divine inspiration - Posted: 5/8/2005 5:37:33 AM
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| Konfused wrote: | | Yep. he’s a narcissist or psychopath and I don’t care to know which because I no longer care to know him. |
I really loved reading it. It means you are starting to get free. With time, you see you're better without him.
Let him live his life.
I read once in a book from a Brazilian writer something like "poor are the men who will never be able to have the love of a woman. Not the physical woman because that is easy but her soul".
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| Topic: REALLY Big Boobs
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| Subject: REALLY Big Boobs - Posted: 5/8/2005 7:39:21 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | I have a family member with REALLY big boobs. She would love to have reduction surgery done - as she is getting older (she’s 47) they have become painful and her back is killing her. However, insurance tells her its cosmetic despite the pain, back issues and muscle problems. (but hey they WILL pay for Viagra!)  I also have REALLY big boobs but I am a REALLY big girl. 
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Really? Here, as long as it is not cosmetic (pain, back issues, etc.) you don’t need to pay for it. Also, big fat people, who need to have a balloon inside the stomach, don’t pay a cent.There is a chance to wait for the surgery (long list of persons) but no pay.
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| Topic: Recipes with cooked tomato
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| Subject: Recipes with cooked tomato - Posted: 5/8/2005 9:40:39 AM
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Hey, thank you Krismiss and Chick.
Another recipe came to my mind because it's my favourite.
CODFISH WITH POTATOES
- Codfish;
- Potatoes;
- Onions;
- Garlic;
- olive oil;
- tomato in tube or in can;
- paprika;
- Small leave of a bay tree.
Smash the codfish with the hands, removing the spines and the skin.
Slice the potatoes and the onions.
Pick up a saucepan.
Start with the onions slices. Make a layer of onion slices at the bottom of the saucepan. Above this layer make another one with potatoes slices, next add another layer of codfish. Repeat these steps till when you think it’s ok.
Add just a cup of water (it will be enough). Add the tomato, the garlic teeth cut in pieces. Add a good amount of olive oil and a small amount of paprika. To finish, put at the top the bay tree leave.
Put the saucepan in the cooker and start cooking. It will take 30/35 minutes to get ready.
If you don’t like codfish you can replace it by another one similar, like hake or whiting (I don't know if it is the right name).
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| Topic: And I thought I was stupid.
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| Subject: And I thought I was stupid. - Posted: 5/10/2005 2:51:03 PM
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DamageControl,
I think this girl has reasons to go to the Police. They were living together and because she was trusting him, she gave him the PIN. He, Dick, abusing on her trusting withdrawed from ATMs, money without her consentment and when she find it out he denied everything.
Ok, I don’t know US laws, or, better said, your state laws for this but I am pretty sure this guy named Dick commited a crime. In my country it is a crime called "abuse of confidence". For sure it must be similar there.
If I were on her shoes, I would go to the Police, really.
Good luck to her.
P.S. - This guy needs to walk on the streets with a paper stuck on his back saying "nice asshole for free".
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| Topic: Needing some advice
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| Subject: Needing some advice - Posted: 5/11/2005 11:36:47 AM
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| Scooby wrote: | Krismiss-I used to have a job like 11 years ago where I did stand on my feet the whole time. I try not to eat a high quality of salt and I do wear high heels or at least now I’ve been wearing high sandals sometimes.
Chick-No recent surgery and no childbirth at all. I do get up from my desk and walk around for like five minutes every hour or so. I do flex my feet as I sit and elevate them at night a lot. I did slow down on my excerising so now is a good time to get it back up in full gear or at least go for a walk or bike ride. I should go back and ask for the full lab work but my doctor just seemed like it was normal for to have them swollen but I will defenitely go back and ask for a full lab work to be done though.
Thanks for all the information, Lady, Chick, and Krismiss. |
Krismiss and Chick are right.
You should avoid high heels.
At the same time you should go to a doctor for a complete check up.
Do you notice any difference on the number of times you go to the bathroom, for instance?
I am not a doctor or a nurse but I've heard too many times it can be due to kidney problems, heart or lymphatic circulation. Anyway, do not get worried. Just try to check it out.
The most probable reason is that you stand on your feet the whole time. Walk at least 30 minutes each day.
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| Topic: TODAYS AOL HEADLINE ABOUT CHEATING
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| Subject: TODAYS AOL HEADLINE ABOUT CHEATING - Posted: 5/11/2005 12:00:49 PM
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I don't know what can I say here. I was involved with a cheater during three years and I didn't look at the clues. How I wish I could go back three years in time.
I still don't understand this behaviour online. If someone just wants sex, why cheating this way? There are too many women and men available just for a sex relationship that can be found in a bar, for instance. So, why going to the Internet pretending one whole life? Why spending money with travels? What is the gain?
If all those men and women could have a pale idea of the devastation they bring to others' life, they should cover the face for a whole eternity. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Unfortunatelly I've learned they don't feel regret. Even worse: they have no feelings at all.
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| Topic: Goodbye guys. :(
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| Subject: Goodbye guys. :( - Posted: 5/11/2005 12:16:07 PM
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Bunnyluvin,
I don't know you at all but it seems to me you need to understand life is not like we want it to be. There are always "spines on the roses" and we just need to go through adversity. You have to remember there's always someone living worse situations.
I just can say
"Smile, even if your smile is sad!
Because sadder than your sad smile,
Is the sadness of not watching you smile."
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| Topic: The truth is...
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| Subject: The truth is... - Posted: 5/11/2005 12:41:40 PM
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Alexander,
You are a very nice person and you were really great when I posted my story here on this site. You were the first answering and I won't forget it.
Whatever is the reason you need therapy, is always a right choice. Don't be afraid of medications because you are not going to get zombie.
For a while I thought like you. I was too stubborn and I wanted to do things on my own. Then, a time came I couldn't sleep a whole night. There were days I couldn't sleep more than a hour per night. You can't imagine how I was working. It was a miracle I never had a car accident, just to make you a picture what was my life after the shock I went through, when I found out I've been joked just for someone's gratification.
I went to therapy and it was the best I did. I also started medication. I am on Zoloft. At the beggining I had some liver problems but as time went by, all went to normal. I was also taking what is called an hipnotic pill to sleep. Now, I don't need it any longer. I can sleep without pills and that is great.
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| Topic: TODAYS AOL HEADLINE ABOUT CHEATING
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| Subject: TODAYS AOL HEADLINE ABOUT CHEATING - Posted: 5/12/2005 8:20:32 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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So, why going to the Internet pretending one whole life? Why spending money with travels? What is the gain?
If all those men and women could have a pale idea of the devastation they bring to others’ life, they should cover the face for a whole eternity. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Unfortunatelly I’ve learned they don’t feel regret. Even worse: they have no feelings at all. |
Nani - we will never understand because we simply aren’t wired that way.
The gain? Massive ego strokes. It really is a disordered mind and you will NEVER figure it out.
I have to agree, if you are gonna cheat - don’t be in a committed relationship - go have fun and make sure you are HONEST about having fun.
On my site, Nani - are articles about Internet Predators - there’s a search feature if you want to look too. The Internet makes it all too easy for these types. Lots of wounded people looking for someone to understand them - they are like sharks to blood.
You will never figure them out. Never. They only understand the devastation when it happens to THEM!! And they can’t even say I’m sorry to your face or - as recommended in 12 Step Programs - allow the person you’ve hurt to vent their anger & talk to them so that you reformat the relationship into something healthy. Why should they? To them we are all disposable.... and on the internet? one mouse click - and you’re gone.
BTW - have you read the book PEOPLE OF THE LIE? |
I didn’t read the book People of the Lie but I am interested. I will try to buy the book here otherwise I will buy it on Amazon.
I’ve read all the articles about Internet Predators and Players and I’ve also followed the links on your site. They really help and we can have an idea about all those liars and cheaters.
At the same time, I dare to start a theory of my own. You know, it’s like a criminal’s mind. A serial killer, a rapist or a burglar have in common a "modus operandi". They develop their modus operandi to find places and victims.
I think all these folks follow a common modus operandi:
1) They have the place - the Internet;
2) They choose the victim;
3) They seduce the victim;
4) Gradually they start to gain victim’s trust;
5) They develop the relationship;
6) At a time of their choosing they start to disapear; (generally they tell a story like: I am going to work on another place and I will be busy to write)
7) Total lack of communication from their side.
8) The victim discovers the truth.
I do believe this applies to the majority of situations. Having read a lot of articles and stories from your site and links, and also from what I heard, generally it’s how they act.
Great Con Artists!
At the same time there are still people who look at it like as harmless behaviour. I found this post on a site. It is from a woman whose husband cheats on her online:
"I have been dealing with this crap for almost five years. My husband says it is harmless entertainment. He has no intention of meeting anyone. I do believe that. But, damn, it still hurts. He equates it to looking at porn which I have NO issue with. I enjoy soft porn on occasion. But these are real (in a very loose sense) people. He lies to them. Tells them he is 10 years younger than he is. Says he is divorced. It just makes me sick. It seems so decietful and sleazy. Our therapist says that there is nothing inherently wrong with living out a fantasy online and that it is only wrong because he knows it will hurt me. I think I need to find another therapist....."
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| Topic: Emotional Rape Syndrome
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| Subject: Emotional Rape Syndrome - Posted: 5/12/2005 11:11:48 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: |
| LoveLabyrinth wrote: |
| I am trying to undertsand this concept could you give me an example. Is it like taking someones trust and love and exploiting it? |
I may get this wrong but the way Dr. Fox explains in the book is sort of like this:
physical rape is the ’using’ of your body without your consent - usually through coercive means (includes getting you drunk, drugs, physical force, etc)
emotional rape is the ’using’ of your mind & emotions without your honest consent (i.e. using lies, manipulation, leading a double or triple life, etc)
(see the first paragraph of original post)
My own story and recently Nani’s and Cagirl’s are PRIME examples of Emotional Rape.
In many cases the victim has very similar reactions as physical rape victims.
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Yeah, so right Shattered!
What an emotional rape it was for both of us. To be frank I need to read Cagirl story. I think I missed that one.
This should be considered a crime. It should be considered a crime called "lack of good faith", which means, someone who lies and pretends a life just to use one person, no matter what the agenda is.
On my case, trusting will be difficult.
Well, I am going to read Cagirl story.
You're great Shattered.
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| Topic: Emotional Rape Syndrome
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| Subject: Emotional Rape Syndrome - Posted: 5/12/2005 11:26:25 AM
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I just read Cagirl story and I cannot understand how I’ve missed it!
Well, Cagirl could be me when I was married. I was just strong enough not to believe the problem was on me. Cagirl has everything that lacks on him. Maybe smarter than him and making more money. The only way he finds to defeat her is playing mind games and making her believe she is guilty for each single bad deed he does. It’s an emotional rape. Sure it is and unfortunatelly I know it very well.
I knew it again although on a different stage with the guy living in Germany: The great pretender!
I have a voice inside telling me his wife is also a victim like Cagirl is at the moment.
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| Topic: Hey I found out more about ME!!!
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| Subject: Hey I found out more about ME!!! - Posted: 5/12/2005 11:41:00 AM
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I can't understand how could I miss that story. I am not going to add anything new to what others have already said.
This guy is in fact too classic. This is a normal story (with almost all the details) any woman in danger has, when they start to search for help whether at the police or at any institution that helps women in danger.
Cagirl, it's never too late. You are independent. Don't let him f**k your life and do NEVER FEAR HIM.
Move out before it's too late. I am sorry for you and also for his ex-wife. I am pretty sure if you could talk to her, you'd be horrified on what she can tell you.
Do not play his "mind and controlling games". This kind of man will never change and lots of times those stories have bad endings.
Good luck for you.
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| Topic: My friend Holly - an inspirational story
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| Subject: My friend Holly - an inspirational story - Posted: 5/12/2005 1:43:46 PM
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I really loved this post. I want to make some comments here because at this present moment I am attending a seminar on my job’s headquarters in Lisbon about some stuff that is present on Holly’s story.
First of all it represents the fail of some judicial systems when they have to deal with foreigners.
Ali Rasai is not only a rapist. He has more crimes behind him. He needs to be judged on several countries for rape and false identification.
Holly commited one mistake all women commit when they are raped although I understand because if I were on their feet, I’d do the same for sure.
A woman cannot take a shower after the rape! The reason is if she takes a shower the evidence may be gone. On this case she knew the attacker. Now imagine if she didn’t know him at all? How to prove in court he raped her? So, no shower! It’s always possible to get a sample of semen to get the DNA from the offender and lots of times it’s the only evidence (and the only necessary).
Now, let’s get focused on Ali, the Iranian. This man stands behind something. Fake documents to travel are one evidence. Obviously fake documents need alias! Those documents are not cheap. They need to be paid and well paid. Where was he getting the money to pay for the documents and for so many travels? Did he have a money factory? So, something here stinks!
This could lead us to a debate. The problem of the documents. Western countries were not ready to deal with it. I can tell you that my country needs to insert more security data on our documents. The reason is to detect those guys with fake documents.
Nowadays the situation here in Europe is not good. There is an agreement between a large number of countries called "Schengen agreement". This agreement allows a citizen from outside Europe to go to all Schengen countries with just an entry visa for one country. Example: a visa to enter in France, allows that person to travel in Portugal, Spain, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, etc, etc.
What happened with Holly story is not just a fail from the Justice of Canada. It’s also a fail from Australian authorities. Don’t you get surprised it was Turkey the country that caught the guy? I just don’t understand why didn’t Turkish authorities arrest the guy at the airport. Well it was Germany. Frankfurt airport generally is an airport for people in transit and they catch a lot of those guys there with fake documents.
I know Western Europe, U.S.A. and Canada are working with those issues to avoid it. Homework is being done and I really do hope Holly’s story won’t repeat because of lack of agreements and no responsability at checking carefully documents and worse than that: authorities not checking Interpol databases at airports.
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| Topic: My friend Holly - an inspirational story
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| Subject: My friend Holly - an inspirational story - Posted: 5/13/2005 4:10:56 PM
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| shattered4good wrote: | Nani I would love for you to copy that post and send it to Holly. She has her own website: http://fightforjustice.blogspot.com There is an icon on the left that you can click and write to her. Holly knows now that she did a lot of things wrong after the rape. But of course she wasn’t in her right state of mind. Most women aren’t. I give her a lot of credit though, for NOT giving up and making sure this guy got justice. And now she spends a lot of her time working for justice for others, especially children. She’s currently having some bad medical problems but please, write her via her site with your post or comments. She’d love to hear from people. |
Be sure that tomorrow I will write to her. I am home now and I've just arrived from Lisbon 45 minutes ago. I am very tired and it's almost 2h30 am here. It's time to go to bed :)
Tomorrow she will have my post there. She is remarkable and a very strong woman.
Have a nice weekend.
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| Topic: Dating Military Men: A Do or a Dont?
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| Subject: Dating Military Men: A Do or a Dont? - Posted: 5/13/2005 4:15:45 PM
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| dazedstare wrote: | Before I try to describe my situation, I am a little curious as far as what everyone’s opinons/experience on this is. Anyone on here been through this, or tried a relationship with someone in the military? Any advice or words of wisdom you wish to send my way...that’d be great. |
I will not give my opinion here for obvious reasons.
I can point you out a military forum on www.military.com.
Search for the forum of military spouses and friends. Maybe it will give you an idea.
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| Topic: TODAYS AOL HEADLINE ABOUT CHEATING
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| Subject: TODAYS AOL HEADLINE ABOUT CHEATING - Posted: 5/13/2005 4:24:38 PM
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| shattered4good wrote: | | Nani1963 wrote: | the same time there are still people who look at it like as harmless behaviour. I found this post on a site. It is from a woman whose husband cheats on her online: "I have been dealing with this crap for almost five years. My husband says it is harmless entertainment. He has no intention of meeting anyone. I do believe that. But, damn, it still hurts. He equates it to looking at porn which I have NO issue with. I enjoy soft porn on occasion. But these are real (in a very loose sense) people. He lies to them. Tells them he is 10 years younger than he is. Says he is divorced. It just makes me sick. It seems so decietful and sleazy. Our therapist says that there is nothing inherently wrong with living out a fantasy online and that it is only wrong because he knows it will hurt me. I think I need to find another therapist....." |
Harmless my ass!!! It’s EMOTIONAL RAPE. These guys stalk the net. This woman whose post you shared here? DEFINITELY needs a new therapist!! If her H is having online flings & justifying it - he needs this: .gif)
I will do you one better with your theory Nani. Don’t laugh. I have been reading a lot on mind control & coercion. You know all thoses sites about How To Seduce Women? Laugh but some of it is based on an advertising and personal power technique called NeuroLinguistic Programming. NLP. Tony Robbins uses it in his classes. Advertising & Sales People use it all the time. Politicians use it. It basically puts the other person in a "trance" where you can SUGGEST things to them that they will take positively. One of these days I am going to cull all my information together and start writing. Tho I fear no one will believe me. Without getting into specifics, the more my therapist & I go over things Jeff said to me, did with me, etc.... the more she feels he used NLP on me... very effectively (and he’s an AWARD WINNING SALESMAN - go figure!! here he is: http://www.kidscreen.com/apk/2001/speakers/dunetz.html) Cheating is cheating - online, offline, whatever. |
Hey Shattered, sure I won't laugh. I will check that site tomorrow.
And yes, you're right about the other woman's therapist. You know what? The therapist needs therapy!
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| Topic: How To Seduce Women Online
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| Subject: How To Seduce Women Online - Posted: 5/14/2005 3:59:25 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: |
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bumping this one up for Nani
(is there a pukin’ icon somewhere Alex?) |
Shattered,
I don’t doubt this technique was used with me too! So many things matching!
Well, at least I don’t feel so stupid. With all those online lessons, no doubt, everyone falls on the trap. You know what? It’s disgusting....
Once again thank you
P.S. - Sosuave.com is also a strange name. "Suave" is a Portuguese word that means "soft". Now you can see "so soft"....
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| Topic: How To Seduce Women Online
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| Subject: How To Seduce Women Online - Posted: 5/14/2005 4:00:28 AM
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| Miss Priss wrote: | | I think Greg must have read this stuff. It’s exactly the kind of things he said and I fell for it. Yuck. Read my New Year’s resolution, written before this thread began, about being less naive next year. |
I think I know you from another site, am I right?
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| Topic: Isnt everybody #$%@d up?
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| Subject: Isnt everybody #$%@d up? - Posted: 5/14/2005 6:22:22 AM
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| krismiss wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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About the number of drug addicts, maybe it is now under control. But there is still a very high number and I am talking about the heavy drugs addicts. I am excluding the light drugs, like marijuana. We have the locals and now there is also an increasing problem among some foreign communities especially Africans.
It affects all us here as the Government has a plan to treat those who want. The money spent on methadon to replace the heroin, for i.e., is a serious issue. Methadon can be even more expensive than the drugs itselves.
So, indirectly from our taxes we all paid this! |
It’s a tough issue. I think I personally would resent my tax dollars going to people who need drug treatment. There are so many others ways that the money can be spent and its sickening that it has to be spent to help people overcome an addiction. I don’t get it---we spend millions each year trying to get people not to use drugs and to show them the effects of drugs, and yet people still do them. DUH!!!!
On the other hand, if violent crime reduces becomes there are less addicts on the streets, then it may be worth spending the money.
I don’t even drink anymore since the legal blood alcohol level was lowered to .8. If I drink, I know I’m not driving. A DUI can do A LOT of damage to your life and its just not worth it. |
The Governments plan to treat the heavy drug addicts has the purposal to reduce the violent crime.
Well, the legal blood alcohol level here is .5!!
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| Topic: My friend Holly - an inspirational story
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| Subject: My friend Holly - an inspirational story - Posted: 5/14/2005 6:27:24 AM
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Shattered,
I just wrote to your friend Holly. I posted my comment and I told there what must be done by a victim of rape. Who knows, it may help future victims.
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| Topic: Buying the Lie
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| Subject: Buying the Lie - Posted: 5/15/2005 2:32:55 AM
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This is a great site about Narcissists and pathological liars. When I was reading the stories it was like I was watching mine on a screen.
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| Topic: Online Players & Online Predators
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| Subject: Online Players & Online Predators - Posted: 5/15/2005 5:10:14 AM
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| No doubt, this site is the best to explain the behaviour of these online players. I think they don't update the site often. I've already sent them an e-mail with my story but I know as well my e-mail was not open yet.
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| Topic: Buying the Lie
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| Subject: Buying the Lie - Posted: 5/15/2005 6:03:03 AM
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Yes. It is a good site. I need to revisit some of these sites when I am depressed.
Its been over a year since I had any contact with Jeff and knowing that he USED my compassion, friendship and yes deep LOVE for him like a toy - I often feel very sick and depressed. I got zero in return other than, in the end, thinly veiled disgust.
One of the last things he said to me was "I don’t want to lose you out of my life, you’re too important to me. You know I have feelings for you." Right - so important that he refused to see me or even establish a basic friendship and so important that he abandoned me, never gave me closure and then he & wifey tried to serve a cease & desist on me. The ONLY reason I was too important? Was because I KNEW TOO MUCH.
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I was told the same Shattered. I still remember the words. "I don’t want to let you go, NEVER"! And guess what? After I find out some part of the truth (because I believe my ex must have a secret life) he blamed me for everything that went wrong. This is just the first letter he sent me after I find out he was married. I have more but this one shows his lying character:
"I was called and brought in and was asked a bunch of questions and then I got to the bottom of it as someone had activated my phone and of course there were messages from you as well as I understand a call today. The divert was set to my field phone so of course here I am looking stupid. Not knowing what was going on until I am shown everything.
OK, I do not know what you are thinking other than some kind of way that I have lied to you! OK, well I would like to know at least what I am being accused of. Then, even though it saddens me, there is a trust issue here and it seems as though there is none where I am concerned with you. I understand and I will not pursue this as maybe it is for the better.
Whatever it is you think you know, then it is wrong where I am concerned. I was true to you! But, there is no need for me to try to make things other than how you are thinking them. Just know that you are a good woman and I have always thought of you as such and I never used you, I truly cared for you. But these are empty words I am sure if you are convinced that I am a bad guy then so be it.
I just ask that you reframe from telling me something about me that I know I am not. I do not want to argue and I meant well by you, as I am sure you meant well, but time is a killer and plays on emotions. Maybe there was just that. All I ask is that you do not think that all men are bad. There are good men and you need to know it when you have one and not make him pay for something that happened before.
Do not even know if it is even worth trying to tell you anything at all. I do know that I asked you to do something and you put me in danger by not listening. No problem what’s done is done. Be sweet and I have nothing but good feeling for you and I am sad that you think bad of me Cutie, whatever that bad is!"
Adding more extracts of letters:
" First I understand the pain you went through and as I told you in the beginning that it was hard and I left no illusions there. What hurts me is that it was harder for you than I thought, but at how cruel you were with your words to me, without even giving me a chance and then whether you realize it or not you endangered my life and a couple of other peoples. If I were honest with myself I would have seen this in the beginning when there was this trust issue with you concerning me. But, I thought hey she has had a bad time and it will be fine.
Then this latest thing came about and wow, I was right away cast into hell by you with your words and mot to mention real world things that you affected not knowing where your thoughts and actions would deal an almost fatal blow to people that had nothing to do with you, yet you placed their lives in danger and caused some children to almost be fatherless. All because of a non trusting heart and now I get this email which was passed to me and I said OK, I will fix this.
.....without trust there is nothing. I cannot make you trust me, nor will I try to prove my innocence. I cannot have a woman that will not listen and take actions out of jealousy or hurt and think only of how they have been wronged and in the mean time put other people in danger.
I will not use the cruel words that you used as the things you said cut deep and they are not forgotten. I can push them back, but they will never be forgotten. I though we were stronger than this and it hurt me to no end when you were talking about taking your life had it not been for your godmother. This is not right and no man or woman is worth this. I am not even worth that and it is a sin to do so. They say that absence makes the heart grow fonder, but a non trusting heart does dangerous things. You tortured yourself for nothing. I loved you then as I do now, but love is not always enough and I will not have it to cause danger to others either.
We can email and if you want try to build things and mend what had been broken, but it will take time and I do not know what that time will bring. We will just have to see. You know no everything, that I do, but your actions have caused me to spend another portion of my life in a place I do not want to be. I am not bitter, I find no fault, it just happened and it is behind, and I have to move forward. You tell me what you want and then we will discuss what to do. Right now I see that I cause you more pain than happiness and this is not good. I never meant bad by you!"
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| Topic: Buying the Lie
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| Subject: Buying the Lie - Posted: 5/15/2005 6:12:44 AM
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Shattered (and all others)
My last post is a post with words from a liar and a cheater. As you can understand he doesn't admit the truth and he is blaming me for not trusting him. He wants to tell me that he is out somewhere fitghting terrorism. What a big lie! He is married and he is a retired military. He is just the Chief of Housing for Stuttgart region.
Are there any comments to this? No, no comments.
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| Topic: HUMOR: How to deal with a Dear John letter
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| Subject: HUMOR: How to deal with a Dear John letter - Posted: 5/15/2005 6:18:42 AM
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Oh great Mary!!!!
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| Topic: I think Im alone here tonight...I hear echos
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| Subject: I think Im alone here tonight...I hear echos - Posted: 5/15/2005 6:56:40 AM
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| cadia wrote: | I am home alone too, watching Everybody loves Raymond and thinking of myself. My new man is in TX for his work and will come back next week. However, right before he told me that he was going to TX this morning, he did a terrible work. Yesterday, as normal I checked his profile at match.com, and I was totally shocked to see his location and his searching location: Austin Texas. That’s it - he has not yet moved to anywhere, he is still in Connecticut, still with me. And he is posting his location is Austin Texas and looking for women from 18 to 39 years old in 100 miles of Austin Texas.
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I called him immediately when I saw this screen, he denied it as best as he could. Finally I had to copy my screen and sent him, with my last word: I don’t believe in you anymore, I am done with you. Shame on him, he immediately changed his profile back to Thompson CT, and tried to make me feel awful as I told lie about his changing in his profile.
He called me last night, still denied to talk about the real problem, but told me that there’s nothing to bitch about, that he had a long day and he was tired. I told my words again and said good bye. He called me this morning again, tried to smile on the phone when he was at the airport, told me that he was going to TX for some days.
I am tired of dealing with a 36 year-old man who still doesn’t know what he wants for his real life. One day he is good, and the next day, his eyes and his mind are looking for new women - his new Mrs Right. And after I told him "I am done with you!", he tried to be back to me.
I know this is crazy, I know that I should have gone out of this ridiculous relationship since the first time I saw him taking a Japanese woman over me. And the fact is that I am still here. I miss him.
I am watching Everybody loves Raymond, and you know what, I love to have a family like Raymond. A family of different people with different characteristics which lead to many difficult situations, however they love each other and care about each other. Some of you said that living single is great, well not for me. I love having people around me - my closed people and people I love to share my emotions, my thinkings and my love.
My thinking is mixing.. and my mind is messed up a little bit. I am telling myself that I am going to be like this today, and just today only. Tomorow I will work with my paper and my thesis again, with that guy out of my way.
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You know Cadia, you can call me crazy but we, women, we all generally do the same mistakes.
When we catch them on a lie, the first thing we do is to call them, let them know how we are feeling miserable due to their actions. This is a terrible mistake! Why? Do you ask. The answer is simple. It allows them to dwel on lame excuses, it allows them to tell how they love us and how important we are on their lives. They still keep telling lies and it’s our fault because generally we tend to believe them. We think with the heart and not with the reason. With this, they think there are no boundaries of decency on a relationship. With time, you’ll see you’ve been wasting your time, your energy, your life…
If we were clever, we should keep our mouths shut and move away. Believe me, this is the best because they start to get nervous. What has she found out? Did she find out this or that? They get really nervous.
His profile is a BIG RED FLAG and jump before it’s too late. You don’t need to stay with a man who doesn’t respect you. I’d rather be alone because a relationship is not a triangle or an open free space. If they want more women they can get converted to the Islam and start an harem!
Get focused on your studies and sooner or later you’ll find someone who respects you and REALLY loves you.
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| Topic: "I am a diagnosed Sociopath"
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| Subject: "I am a diagnosed Sociopath" - Posted: 5/16/2005 7:59:13 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!!
I pulled this from another place and was so stunned I had to share it here. IT IS VERY GRAPHIC SO PLEASE BE WARNED!!! It is a post from a "diagnosed sociopath" and one of the replies from a public forum called craigslist. I’m sure many of you have heard of it. well people can get on there and say pretty much anything that is on their mind. It is an anonymous forum. there is no way to track down who writes what.
If you really want to know what goes on in some of these guys heads, read on.:
"I have a long history with women. I have been in many committed relationships over the years but have always maintained relationships on the side. None of my girlfriends know about the other women when I start seeing them but they eventually find out. There is only so long that you can keep it a secret. They either let it slide or leave me and I just pick up with the ones that I have on the side that dont know about the other women until the same thing happens with them.
I have been doing this for years now. About 10 or 12 years ago I am pretty sure I contracted HPV. Every once in a while I would get these little growths on my dick. They always popped up overnight and never got bigger than a pencil eraser. Whenever this happened I would just grit my teeth and pull the fuckers off using my fingernails. I would make sure it was all gone and squeeze as much blood as I could from the wound. Then I would mop everything up with alcohol and hope for the best. It always worked and I never got more than 1 or 2 evry few years.
I am pretty much a serial dater and I will fuck anything I can find. I hate condoms with a passion and try my best to never use them. It is pretty easy because I am very good at other things to the point that the woman wont even care that I am not wearing one and will pull me up and let me fuck her without it. I love when that happens, because I know she just wants the dick in her no matter how dangerous it is.
I have had a few girls over the years confront me on the HPV thing but it is sucha pervasive that I turn it around on them and they end up trying to figure out where they go it from.
I still wont use condoms if I can avoid using them. I never have a problem finding women that dont mind if you dont use them either. On some occasions if the woman makes me use one I will fuck her wildly and make the thing tear and then cum inside of her as well. On more than 1 occasion I have taken the thing off in mid fuck and cum inisde them and then roll off of them and pretend like I am taking the condom off.
I have this one chick that I have been fucking for 5 years who still does not have my phone #. I can call her after not talking to her for months and she will invite me over and I will fuck her raw for hours. She is a hopeless case and less than good-looking so she takes what she can get. I call her up on a whim and tell her I am going to be in her hood for the night and she will tell me to come by. I think I will call her right now. I am such a nice guy...
I am a diagnosed sociopath. I was forced into therapy many years ago when I got into trouble as a teen.
I really do not care one way or the other about anyone but myself.
I make a very decent living (100k-120k) and steal from every employer I have ever had. I will walk the hallways of any job I have had and find things to sell on ebay and use the company fedex account to send the stuff out. My feedback is off the charts because I send everything priority overnight without telling the buyer.
It is pretty easy finding women who will let me fuck them without condoms. I am a reasonably good looking guy with a great knack for engaging conversations. I know a little about everything, just enough to make you think I know a lot when I really dont know shit. It is all about knowing the buzzwords. I chat the women up and chisel my way into their heads.
I could care less if I have sex with a woman on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd date. I could wait months if that is how long it takes. I want the woman to be the one to engage the actual sex act. I can have my dick at the entrance to her pussy and if she tells me to stop I will. I want there to be no reservations about giving themselves to me sexually. This is one of the reasons I have had so many women fall in love with me. As soon as I leave a woman that stops the sex act, I just call another one and bang away.
Women seem to think any guy who waits for sex is really into them. For me it is all about the mind games. Sex is great but fucking the mind is even better. Women equate love with sex, I dont. It is just power to me."
The reply:
"The problem with you guys not caring is not entirely your fault, but in fact you are very scared and angry underneath this whole "facade". I pity you, it’s a disease, with a poor prognosis and a high risk of STD’s apparently. You almost seem to be proud of your STD.
Actually sociopaths don’t understand love. So in fact the closest they get to it is sex, so in a way they do equate it with love. Your inability to feel love is the reason you are so promiscous. You have to get your thrills somewhere, right. But not here."
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Do you remember my comparison between a criminal and those guys?
I think I'm not so wrong. As you can see, it is followed a "modus operandi".
Disgusting...
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| Topic: Buying the Lie
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| Subject: Buying the Lie - Posted: 5/16/2005 8:08:18 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | Nani - what can I say that you don’t already know? If you check my story under NEW YORK you will see the LAMEASS apology letter that Jeff sent to me and the Other Woman. AT THE SAME TIME!! How friggin’ impersonal!! He knew me 27 years, knew her 5 weeks - got me into all kinds of trouble yet he said NOTHING to me until HIS SORRY ASS GOT INTO TROUBLE!!
Your guy? Is sickeningly typical. He:
1. accuses you and tries to guilt-trip you about not trusting him
2. tries to cover his ass with more lies
3. Shame-Dumping (making you feel bad for having boundaries and finding out the truth)
4. Projection - makes his crap look like YOUR problem
I could go on & on & on. One thing I will say is these guys pick out the best, the brightest and the strongest. For some reason it gives them a bigger kick to bring us down. Of course we also have to be wounded in some way and usually the best are wounded. So sick. Part of me totally gets it - and part of me will never understand.
for you Nani: 
Here’s another site you might really enjoy guys:
http://survivorquotes.bravehost.com/index.html
(btw I don’t recommend the forums that are linked to this site personally but Your Mileage May Vary)
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Dear Shattered,
First of all a for you too.
I don't know if they pick up the best. I think they try to wound the strongest. From my side I can say that as long as I have some strength I will fight those type of scumbag the much as I can. For 13 years I've been trying to remove some "society shit" (pardon the french) out of the streets. I just have to add one more "kind of criminals" on my crusade.
Thank you for all and YOU'RE GREAT!!!!
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| Topic: teeny vent...
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| Subject: teeny vent... - Posted: 5/16/2005 2:34:46 PM
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| Cagirl wrote: | The penis talked to me today and I was floored at his just cold attitude, why on earth I still seek validation from this man is beyond me, so of course we talked about MY faults again because his halo was pretty much blinding me. I told him how mean he could be and he said ..... "if that’s how you want to paint me to people, you really don’t know me that well" I said rather incredulously "don’t know you? DON’T KNOW YOU? I’ve been at the butt end of your bullshit for a few years now and I don’t know you?? Did it ever occur you to that perhaps i’m not PAINTING anything and that might just be how you are?" he laughed in my face and said "no, i’m really a nice guy, if you weren’t so much of a controlling bitch you’d see that....., I AM a nice guy..the nicest guy you’ve ever been with and someday you’ll realize what you"ve lost..."
Ok just smack me now..........OMG I don’t know what’s more infuriating, finally realizing you’ve been getting your ass kicked by a no good penis for longer then necessary OR him not admitting he’s just a penis, and not taking ANY responsibility for anything...
A friend of mine just said "you’d have a better chance of him getting pregnant, he’s not capable of being empathetic.."
*sigh* I just want to shake him you know? I’m so fricking mad at everything he did to me...mad mad mad...i just want to scream. But then as we were having these little words I noticed his frickin eyes get that little spark back in his eye, and i realized "you sick bastard, you’re enjoying this.."
So when you all told me that I hadn’t hit rock bottom yet? Well that sadistic look just helped me almost get there....sick, just plain sick, to derive pleasure out of just pissing someone off and hurting them that’s just so wrong...wrong wrong wrong. If I hear one more person say "oh he cant help it, he doesn’t know he’s doing it" i’m just going to throw something (jeez who’s got the anger issues now? eeeep) HOW can they do this shit and WHY dont they know? do they NOT see it? How can they NOT SEE IT...
God I know he does this shit on purpose....I was doing SO good, no contact, NOTHING, it was WONDERFUL, I know he is doing this on purpose just to get a rise out of me..."paint me like that.." good gawd I could just scream.
Sorry just venting.......
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If I were in your shoes I would start planning living alone. Don't allow this man to tell you what he is telling.
Who does he think he is?
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| Topic: A poem to share
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| Subject: A poem to share - Posted: 5/16/2005 2:38:15 PM
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A nice poem Cagirl.
You know I used to do the same. I just wrote them on another language. Time will heal your wounds.
Good luck
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| Topic: Emotionally Confused
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| Subject: Emotionally Confused - Posted: 5/16/2005 2:46:33 PM
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| gladgurl wrote: | The man I fell in love with five years ago is not the same man that I wake up to today. About five minutes ago we just had argument that led up to him calling me UGLY and when I said that I wasnt ugly and that he was he said that " No other girls is complaining" and something about girls being all over him. and then he left. He then text messaged me and said he was sorry. Yesturday when we had an argument I said I was going to leave him, and he told me that If I left my world would crumble without him,because I dont work anymore, so I can take care of my son, and he said he wanted me to leave right then and there. :( |
I read here a strong manipulation.
Do you have any chance to find a job? That would be my starting point.
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| Topic: What Ive been hiding.
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| Subject: What Ive been hiding. - Posted: 5/17/2005 4:18:02 PM
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Please don’t get me wrong but having read some of your posts (I am not answering just based on this one), allow a woman who lives very, very far from you to tell you that you need to change the way you see and live your life.
I understand what you went through and I can guess it has been tough to deal with all this. Yes, I understand.
I just think that you need to have something different in your life. For instance, why don’t you try to learn something new? A new language? When we’re busy learning something we don’t think so much on how life has been bad to us.
You have been living some real bad moments, so, knowing what you know now, you need to get based on your previous experiences and be able to see from a distance what you should or what you shouldn’t do.
Just to give you an example, I wouldn’t go lunch with a guy who says he still loves me if he is going to marry another woman. I am not criticizing (once again, try to understand this is just an opinion) but it doesn’t make any sense at all. Why are you wasting your time with him? Are you opening a path to him to have an affair with you? I’m pretty sure you’re not but he will may think you are and I wouldn’t be so surprised at all that in the future he’d knock at your door...you know for what.
If I were figthing for the custody of my child I wouldn’t be waiting for the father’s money. He has to give the money for child support (no doubt about it) but I wouldn’t cross my arms as well. First thing to do: trying to find a job.
Another thing to do is lowering the amount of money we spend on frivolous things. This is the basic rule! We just buy or pay what we really need to. Other than that, cut!
Getting back to the beggining, you really need to get focused on something new. Oh yes you need! Learning new things open us a window of curiosity and knowledge. We have new things on our mind, we’re busy with new worlds, with new people. We learn how to deal with people from different places, from difficult cultures, not looking so much to our belly. This is a way of enlarging our horizons. With a very large horizon, you will learn, for instance, love is not based on beauty.
I remember you have a post with a picture showing a brunette your ex was dating. You said on that post something like "how can it be possible?" because she was not so beautiful compared to you. In fact, you are more beautiful than her but it doesn’t mean anything. I don’t know both of you but you need to learn that love and a relationship has nothing to do with the outside beauty. It has to do with the beauty that comes inside, that you have within you. A pretty face may be just a facade. How many times did we all hear this statment from a man "Oh that woman is really beautiful but she cannot open the mouth because she cannot say anything smart". (this is just an example, I am not thinking about you). This is more common than what we all think! And I know what I am talking about because in my job I am the only woman surrounded by twelve men.
Learning new things and enlarging horizons can also be a kind of a treatment to you. You said you are a sex addict but I am pretty sure if you want so, you’ll be able to control your libido.
You need to do so because other women can look at you as a threat. Believe me!
For now, don’t live your life just thinking on your past, present or future relationships. Start thinking on a new life and enlarge those horizons! Be open to new "healthy" friends. Here you have lots to help you. Really lots. Not only three, four or five! Look at how many people post here!
On the outside world do the same! Make new friends! It will help you. The diversity is so, so good. Different experiences, different cultures, different opinions.
At the end you will see, the world has so much to offer. You’ll get happier and sooner or later you’ll find the "right" someone.
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| Topic: To Krismiss and Alexander
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| Subject: To Krismiss and Alexander - Posted: 5/19/2005 2:06:49 AM
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Dear board friends,
I want to thank you for the compliments I read on another post.
I admire Krismiss for her common sense. She uses common sense to help others and that is great. The problem is that sometimes when we want to help, we CANNOT say what people want to listen. We need to show them reality and that is very different. To me, that's exactly what a friend needs to be, pointing out the good and the bad. Keep on Krismiss, you're great!
Alex: You are really a nice person. I don't forget what you said by the first time I posted here. You are great and you give very nice answers to posters.
I don't use translators to write on a different language. I write like if I were writing on my mother tongue. I had a French teacher in the past who taught me a secret: when you write or speak on a different language, never think in your own language. You will never be able to translate the idiomatic expressions. This is true. If you use a translator, you are entering the "non sense kingdom".
Europe is a continent with a diversity of languages. That's why many people here speak several languages.
I still have three languages I would like to learn and I am working on it. German, Russian and Arab. If everything goes well, I will start in September a free course for Arab at the University, with a teacher from Morroco. That would be like a dream coming true. I don't know yet if I will be able to write those strange characters from the right to the left. That will be a challenge.
One of the things I like on this board is that we can find real smart and nice people. I adore Shattered. She is so great and nice!
Everyone here is great. I will not say more names because I could forget some and that would be a mistake.
Thank you everybody.
to all of you!
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| Topic: To Krismiss and Alexander
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| Subject: To Krismiss and Alexander - Posted: 5/19/2005 11:06:07 AM
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Well ladies you're both great! Thanks.
Lady, I speak four languages (Portuguese, French, Spanish and English). If you start to learn Russian in the near future, please let me know that I will try to start learning as well. We could practice here, what do you think? :) The only problem is to use the cyrilic alphabet...In terms of sound, Russian has no accent which helps very much. I have some friends who told me it's not that difficult. Shall we go for it? :)
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| Topic: okay as promised.. my picture...
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| Subject: okay as promised.. my picture... - Posted: 5/19/2005 11:13:46 AM
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| Stefanee, I am a new member here and I can tell I envy your hair. It’s the kind of hair I always wanted to have but mother nature....
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| Topic: Emotional Rape Syndrome
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| Subject: Emotional Rape Syndrome - Posted: 5/19/2005 11:20:47 AM
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| Cagirl wrote: |
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Hmmm...i’d never thought about that. It’s exactly how I feel. I do make more money then him and quite frankly yes I am smarter then he is...he loves to bring that to my attention he’s always saying "you may be smarter then me, but there are some things I know more about" Or "someday i’ll be making ALL the money and you can do whatever you want"
He’s such a fucker, he called me last night and was telling me how everything is my fault yet again, and for now we are no longer together, but when I’M willing to come forward, apologize and admit all of my heinous faults, he will consider taking me back...oh it will be a cold day in hell let me tell you.
so, i’ve changed my phone numbers, i’m moving to a new home, and getting rid of my car for something he won’t recognize....i’m just so mad |
I’ve been on the same boat and that’s why I noticed your situation all at once.
I am glad you were brave enough to leave him and you are doing the right things. There is no right to treat someone the way you were treated. If you feel lonely, don’t hesitate, come here to vent.

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| Topic: My friend Holly - an inspirational story
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| Subject: My friend Holly - an inspirational story - Posted: 5/19/2005 12:08:10 PM
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Do you have news from your friend Holly? I would like to have some feedback from her.
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| Topic: Buying the Lie
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| Subject: Buying the Lie - Posted: 5/19/2005 12:27:18 PM
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| Cagirl wrote: |
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Ohhhh Nani????? were we dating the same man????
Good lord woman when i was reading that letter? it was almost word for WORD the crap i’ve been hearing from the penis...absolutely amazing.... |
Yes Cagirl,
These are extracts from letters he sent me after I found out he was married. It’s fantastic, isn’t it?
You know, I still feel like a dumb because I trusted him for three years. When things started to smell bad, I did some background searches and I had all my answers. I still cannot believe.
You know, I think cheaters and abusers they all read the same book. It must be a kind of "Cheaters’ Instructions".
My story is on the Message board for Germany.
I’m glad you left your man. Good luck!
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| Topic: Recipes
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| Subject: Recipes - Posted: 5/19/2005 12:44:39 PM
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Ooops Alex, what is a Marijuana brownie? :)
Is Marijuana legal there?
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| Topic: What Ive been hiding.
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| Subject: What Ive been hiding. - Posted: 5/20/2005 12:56:00 AM
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I know the others have probably had a much worse time than myself,but I have come to realize some things in the past 24 hours that hasmade me want to off myself and I need an outlet.
My ex husband isgetting married to the woman he cheated on me with. She has nothing togive him and he has nothing to give her. He beat the shit out of me forthree years and he gets to be in love and happy with a new family? Whyam I being punished when he is the one who did wrong?
Almosteveryone I know is geting married. My ex sister in law is gettingmarried this weekend. The next weekend I get to be a brides maid. Ihave been either a maid of honor or a bridesmaid six times since mydivorce was final last june. Needless to say I have plenty of formals.
Every guy I date wants one thing from me. Being the nympho that I am I give it to them and then I am again left with nothing.
I need to go to sex addicts anyonomous.
My ex hubby is accusing me of doing drugs.
I have no money. Months behind in all of my bills.
MyAunt is up my ass to make a budget, but how do I do that when I do nothave a steady income. I have not received any child support in like 3weeks.
He told me yesterday that he still loves me and that hehas to see me and make sure he is making the right decision. So I havelunch with him Friday. |
Noone has a worse time, it just depends on how the times affectyou. |
I have to disagree Bunnyluvin. It may depend on how things afftect you but you need to accept there will be always someome living worse situations.
What about those who have a car accident and end up in a wheelchair? Someone diagnosed with cancer? Imagine yourself you are a woman aware of your rights and you live in Afghanistan?
I think it is an injustice saying there are no worse problems.
This is just an opinion but we can't look just at our belly!
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| Topic: DO I TRUST HIM??? PLS ADVISE ME
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| Subject: DO I TRUST HIM??? PLS ADVISE ME - Posted: 5/20/2005 5:32:41 AM
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| babykiten wrote: |
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Hi all
im with my boyf 6 years and i still love him alot. A number of things upset me recently - him having buckets of porn on his machine (whilst we lived apart in other countries for 6 months that was fine) but i had major rows to get him to get rid of it. He said he would and then i found him again looking at it, which he lied to me about. This has affected my trust and self esteem big time.
The he went on a batchelors weekend to prague and visited strip clubs (which im not crazy about but since it was his freind tat was getting married i was OK about it). I found a strange email in his wallet and confronted him. He lied to me, and told me a number of petty lies about how he got it. Its this simple, he must have asked a girl in a bar for it, so there had to be some connection. After rowi ng, he said he got rid of it and it was only a’ friend’. But why take an email from someone who lives in prague, cos she was supposed to move to the UK where we live. I am hating him right now. In my mind -it feels like this- he left me and kissed me goodbye, said i love u and then he flys there and hours later he’s up to that.
See this excuses are wearing very thin with me, and he always seems to have girl ’freinds’ over the six years who have on occasion over-stepped the line calling him at 4am or flirting with him. I just dont know what to do, he hasnt actually done anything per-se, but i believe his behavious has been very sneaky. I tried to leave (we live together ) last week and packed up , he cried and he claims he understands why i am hurt
Any theories on his behaviour?? please give a balanced veiw if poss!! luv Bxx
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Theories? Well, it sounds he is cheating on you. Porno, e-mail addresses and phone calls at 4 am...
What can I say? You have some clues. I suggest you start to make some background searches, if you have the chance to do so. Here on this site, there is also a section called Catch a Cheater, it may help you.
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| Topic: To Krismiss and Alexander
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| Subject: To Krismiss and Alexander - Posted: 5/20/2005 10:42:17 AM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
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Well ladies you’re both great! Thanks.
Lady, I speak fourlanguages (Portuguese, French, Spanish and English). If you start tolearn Russian in the near future, please let me know that I will try tostart learning as well. We could practice here, what do youthink? :) The only problem is to use the cyrilic alphabet...Interms of sound, Russian has no accent which helps very much. I havesome friends who told me it’s not that difficult. Shall we go for it? :)
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Nani... four languages is very impressive. You go girl...learning other languages would really help with my job,but I just don’t have the motivation to attempt it at this time in my life. I admire your ability to expand and learn new things.
Kris, you know how I feel about you...I’ve always thought you were very articulate..ya got that silver-tongue girl. You’re ten years my junior but I still learn from you, as well as many others here who are younger.
Alex, you’re very kind hearted and offer good advice as well and I love the way you respond to pretty much every thread.
I have good things to say about every poster here, but that could get very long and sappy, so I’ll nip it.
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Chick,
What do you need to have your motivation? Can I help you?
You know, nowadays I have a little more time to my hobbies and things I want to learn. During almost ten years I was working lots of hours per day and I couldn't do the things I wanted to. Now that I have the chance I don't want to miss it.
You know Chick, you’re also a nice person here. As you can understand this wasn’t an innocent post. I just read something on another, that lead me to do this. ;)
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| Topic: What Ive been hiding.
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| Subject: What Ive been hiding. - Posted: 5/20/2005 11:29:02 AM
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| bunnyluvin wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
| bunnyluvin wrote: |
| Damagecontrol wrote: |
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Iknow the others have probably had a much worse time than myself,but Ihave come to realize some things in the past 24 hours that hasmade mewant to off myself and I need an outlet.
My ex husband isgettingmarried to the woman he cheated on me with. She has nothing togive himand he has nothing to give her. He beat the shit out of me forthreeyears and he gets to be in love and happy with a new family? Whyam Ibeing punished when he is the one who did wrong?
AlmosteveryoneI know is geting married. My ex sister in law is gettingmarried thisweekend. The next weekend I get to be a brides maid. Ihave been eithera maid of honor or a bridesmaid six times since mydivorce was finallast june. Needless to say I have plenty of formals.
Every guy I date wants one thing from me. Being the nympho that I am I give it to them and then I am again left with nothing.
I need to go to sex addicts anyonomous.
My ex hubby is accusing me of doing drugs.
I have no money. Months behind in all of my bills.
MyAuntis up my ass to make a budget, but how do I do that when I do nothave asteady income. I have not received any child support in like 3weeks.
Hetold me yesterday that he still loves me and that hehas to see me andmake sure he is making the right decision. So I havelunch with himFriday. |
Noone has a worse time, it just depends on how the times affectyou. |
Ihave to disagree Bunnyluvin. It may depend on how things afftect youbut you need to accept there will be always someome living worsesituations.
What about those who have a car accident and end upin a wheelchair? Someone diagnosed with cancer? Imagine yourself youare a woman aware of your rights and you live in Afghanistan?
I think it is an injustice saying there are no worse problems.
This is just an opinion but we can’t look just at our belly! |
I guess what I am trying to say is that it depends on a person’soutlook. A person who has been diagnosed with cancer could see itas just another challenge in life that they must fight, while someonelike me can see something seemingly simple and take it as bad as thenews of cancer. The cancer patient could be optimistic in theirfight, willing to survive, while the other see her problem as too muchto handle and gives up on life. A woman in afghanistan may see itas their duty to live inferior to men, there arewomen like that out there, as where others see it as oppression. I agree that it would be absolutely devastating for me and many othersto end up paralyzed in a wheelchair and to lose your friends andfamily, but there are others like christopher reeves who made the bestof things with his wife and kids. But this is just my opinion. |
Well Bunnyluvin,
This could be a never ending post and each one has a different point of view that I have to accept but I think you shouldn’t point out the things the way you did. I know feelings and emotions are totally different from person to person but that is not the point.
Let’s imagine two scenarios. I am going to interpretate this through your point of view:
1) You go to the hospital because you have a flu. You are a young person with no health complications. After you, someone enters the hospital with a leg and an arm broken. Doctors start to treat first the person with the broken leg and arm. Suddenly you say: hey, please treat me because I’ve arrived here first and to me my flu is so bad as a broken leg!
2) Now imagine this: a CSI team is called at the same time to check two crime scenes. A house has been burgled and on the other side of the town there was an homicide. What is the first place to go? No doubt, is the homicide but if the owner of the burgled house thinks like you, he may say: sorry but my case is so bad as the homicide.
This was just to tell you that whether you want it or not there will always be worse situations. Don’t get confused with strong personalities like Christopher Reeves. He is an example of determination of going through adversity. Strong personalities have the capacity of not falling down facing the problems. They just try to help themselves.
About someone diagnosed with cancer, it also depends on its stage. On the terminal stage of the disease, I can’t imagine any challenge! Maybe only facing the unknown. Can we call it the other side of life? If death is a cycle of life...
When I talked about women of Afghanistan, I was also clear. I said a woman AWARE of her rights. Maybe one day during your free time you can google the word RAWA. Read everything you can and you will see how your problems (mine also) are just a joke!
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| Topic: DO I TRUST HIM??? PLS ADVISE ME
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| Subject: DO I TRUST HIM??? PLS ADVISE ME - Posted: 5/20/2005 12:16:37 PM
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| Alexander wrote: |
| Ireland, I understand divorce is extremely difficult to get out of if not impossible, is this religously based? |
Alex,
I think Ireland’s law is similar to the Portuguese. We are talking about Catholic countries.
Divorce is allowed (there are some directives coming from the European Union and all member countries respect). I don’t know any European Union country where divorce is difficult. It isn’t religious based.
What is different in Ireland and difficult is the abortion (like here). Abortion is ilegal but she can clarify us for sure!
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| Topic: Best Qualities...
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| Subject: Best Qualities... - Posted: 5/20/2005 1:13:59 PM
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For me the best qualities:
- intelligent;
- caring;
- good listener;
- likes reading, watching movies and listening to music;
- art lover;
- sense of humour;
- helps in kitchen;
- true.
What I avoid:
- drinking too much;
- telling stories where he is always a hero;
- not paying attention to his image;
- selfish;
- not being able to have a smart conversation.
For a relationship add to the qualities physical attraction.
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| Topic: To Krismiss and Alexander
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| Subject: To Krismiss and Alexander - Posted: 5/20/2005 1:22:31 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
| chick1110 wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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Well ladies you’re both great! Thanks.
Lady,I speak fourlanguages (Portuguese, French, Spanish and English). If youstart tolearn Russian in the near future, please let me know that Iwill try tostart learning as well. We could practice here, what doyouthink? :) The only problem is to use the cyrilicalphabet...Interms of sound, Russian has no accent which helps verymuch. I havesome friends who told me it’s not that difficult. Shall wego for it? :)
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Nani... four languages is very impressive. You go girl...learning other languages would really help with my job,but I just don’t have the motivation to attempt it at this time in my life. I admire your ability to expand and learn new things.
Kris, you know how I feel about you...I’ve always thought you were very articulate..ya got that silver-tongue girl. You’re ten years my junior but I still learn from you, as well as many others here who are younger.
Alex, you’re very kind hearted and offer good advice as well and I love the way you respond to pretty much every thread.
I have good things to say about every poster here, but that could get very long and sappy, so I’ll nip it.
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Chick,
What do you need to have your motivation? Can I help you?
Youknow, nowadays I have a little more time to my hobbies and things Iwant to learn. During almost ten years I was working lots of hours perday and I couldn’t do the things I wanted to. Now that I have thechance I don’t want to miss it.
You know Chick, you’re also anice person here. As you can understand this wasn’t an innocentpost. I just read something on another, that lead me to do this. ;) |
I need a brain transplant...j/k Due to either my thyroid or perimenopause I can’t seem to concentrate on anything for very long and I forget very easily.So studying something new would be very frustrating.
Thanks for the compliment and I did realize your post was in response to another :-)
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You need a brain transplant? Oh you're joking :)
With all your knowledge about medical stuff, I needed you to work on my team, believe me.
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| Topic: What Ive been hiding.
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| Subject: What Ive been hiding. - Posted: 5/21/2005 4:56:26 AM
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Bunnyluvin,
I didn’t mean to piss you off either. I was just showing you my point of view. What we had here was just a debate, do you understand?
You and I, we belong to societies where each one can show a different point of view. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about yours. You must express always your opinion. That’s democracy!
It's obvious you don't know me, otherwise you wouldn't get angry. I just like the debate, that's it.

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| Topic: The Penis (supposedly) has left the building....
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| Subject: The Penis (supposedly) has left the building.... - Posted: 5/21/2005 5:08:42 AM
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No doubt Cagirl. Another one who blames you for everything. He blames his ex-wife, be blames you. He’s the only innocent, he’s a victim. Nice projection! (Isn’t it, Shattered?)
I just hope he never crosses your life again.
What can I tell you more? It will take some time for you to heal your wounds. You know what? Stay here to give your advice to other women. You're strong and I am pretty sure you'll give smart opinions.
Good luck!

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| Topic: The Penis (supposedly) has left the building....
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| Subject: The Penis (supposedly) has left the building.... - Posted: 5/21/2005 6:39:36 AM
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| judyl wrote: | | I swear to God! Are you sure his name isen’t Chris Rimmer? Chris also blammed his 1st. wife, then Cheryl, then his 2nd. wife, then Donna and then me. I’m sure when he’s finished with Diana, it will all be her fault. It’s been 16 mos. for me and I’m still thinking about him. I try to remember all the shit he did to me and my sons. He had excellent energy for when we did fun things that HE liked. He was a "doer". He got things done around my house. I do miss that. I miss riding my bike with him. And a few other things. But I don’t miss the arguing, the name calling, him putting me down (and my sons). One of his co-workers told me that he was cheated on and he’s never gotten over it. I will probably be one of those. It hurt me to my core. And his life goes on. But I know his past and at 45 he will always be an abuser. He will always have a bad temper. Fuck them all. I hate them. It pisses me off. I wish I’d never of met him. But he was put into my life for a reason. And that reason is well known to me. Just courious, where are you in California? JUDY |
Judyl, they all read the same book, what can we do? ;)
it seems we all have been on the same boat!
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| Topic: ROFLMAO - Woman Uses Exs Credit Card for Hit
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| Subject: ROFLMAO - Woman Uses Exs Credit Card for Hit - Posted: 5/21/2005 7:47:58 AM
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This sounds like a joke! She was trying to hire someone to kill her ex-husband with his own money? Fantastic! I know a lot of similar stories but this one has this difference.
Glad she was caught!
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| Topic: ROFLMAO - Woman Uses Exs Credit Card for Hit
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| Subject: ROFLMAO - Woman Uses Exs Credit Card for Hit - Posted: 5/21/2005 10:11:09 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | | I attended undergrad school in this town and grew up about an hour away. I TOTALLY believe it..... and btw, there’s a reason I don’t live there anymore and this article confirms it. |
Hey, I don't doubt a single word on this story. You know, I am a little bit used to crazy things and that's why I tend to laugh.
Maybe she thought "well, he is going to die, he doesn't need money and he can pay his own death".
That's why I laughed.
We can never imagine what an humain being is able to do!
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| Topic: I think its time for another hot man thread
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| Subject: I think its time for another hot man thread - Posted: 5/21/2005 10:36:42 AM
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| hellhathnofury wrote: |
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Hes on the left!!

Well ladies meet José Mourinho Chelsea football club manager.Please believe me the photots do no justice- What makes him sexy- the deep moody stares and the way his tie is always loose like a bad school boy up to no good- What makes him adorable- the first person he phones after any major win is his wife!!!!
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YES!!!!!!!!!
Well, José Mourinho is a man from my country! He was the manager of FC Porto, a club from the city where I live.
I agree with you! I love his smile.
The man on the right on the top picture is the President of FC Porto (Pinto da Costa).
Yes, I vote for the Portuguese José Mourinho but let me tell you one thing: he cheated on his wife while he was the coach of FC Porto, her husband spat on him in the Stadium of Chelsea during the match Chelsea-Porto.
He left Porto because Abramovitch pays him a fortune and also because the husband of the other lady was chasing him.
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| Topic: commitment issues related to personality disorder
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| Subject: commitment issues related to personality disorder - Posted: 5/21/2005 3:42:49 PM
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It seems to me, based on what you've posted, you have been dating to a sociopath.
A sociopath doesn't feel love and doesn't feel regret.
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Read this:
Profile of a Sociopath
A number of mind-manipulating cult leaders may exhibit many of the behavioral characteristics of a sociopath--an outstanding ability to charm and seduce followers. Since they appear apparently normal, they are not easily recognizable as deviant or disturbed. Although only a trained professional can make a diagnosis, it is important to be able to recognize the personality type in order to avoid further abuse. These traits also apply to a one-on-one cultic relationship.
Glibness/Superficial Charm
Language can be used without effort by them to confuse and convince their audience. Captivating storytellers that exude self-confidence, they can spin a web that intrigues others. Since they are persuasive, they have the capacity to destroy their critics verbally or emotionally.
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right." Craves adulation and attendance. Must be the center of attention with their own fantasies as the "spokesman for God," "enlightened," "leader of humankind," etc. Creates an us-versus-them mentality
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion, it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
While they talk about "God's love" they are unable to give or receive it. Since they do not believe in the genuineness of their followers' love, they are very harsh in testing it from their devotees and expect them to feel guilt for their failings. Expects unconditional surrender.
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge, yet testing the beliefs of their followers with bizarre rules, punishments and behaviors. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. Their skills are used to exploit, abuse and exert power. Since the follower cannot believe their leader would callously hurt them, they rationalize the behavior as necessary for their (or the group's) own "good" and deny the abuse. When devotees become aware of the exploitation it feels like a "spiritual rape" to them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others. The followers only see them as near perfect.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blame their followers or others outside their group. Blame reinforces passivity and obedience and produces guilt, shame, terror and conformity in the followers.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Totalist leaders frequently practice promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts. This is usually kept hidden from all but the inner circle. Stringent sexual control of their followers, such as forced breakups and divorces, removal of children from parents, rules for dating, etc.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future. Many groups claim as their goal world-domination or other utopian promises. Great contrast between the leader's opulent lifestyle and the followers' impoverishment. Support by gifts and donations from the followers who are pressured to give through fear and guilt. Highly sensitive to their own pain and health.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image and that of the group as needed to avoid prosecution and to increase income and to recruit a range of members. Is able to adapt or relocate as needed to preserve the group. Can resurface later with a new name, a new front group and a new twist on the scam.
Other Related Qualities:
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
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Anyway Shattered is the right person to answer this. Search her posts and you will find a link to her website. It's a fountain of information. You won't waste your time.
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| Topic: commitment issues related to personality disorder
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| Subject: commitment issues related to personality disorder - Posted: 5/21/2005 3:44:09 PM
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| Ok Shattered just answered!! ;)
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| Topic: Sometimes...
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| Subject: Sometimes... - Posted: 5/22/2005 2:08:26 AM
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| You are an human being....
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| Topic: Baby Drama
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| Subject: Baby Drama - Posted: 5/22/2005 2:20:38 AM
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Whosfoolingwho,
Go for the DNA test to end all doubts.
Meanwhile if you have a chance, create an e-mail account with a name different than yours. Go to www.readnotify.com. Create an account there (free for sending ten e-mails), use your imagination and send one e-mail to taht person following the steps there.
When the person opens the e-mail, you can know where the person is located and also the IP Address. Then, check to whom the IP belongs. Maybe it will give you an idea.
Good luck
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| Topic: commitment issues related to personality disorder
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| Subject: commitment issues related to personality disorder - Posted: 5/22/2005 2:27:01 AM
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| short_cake wrote: | | ok so i contacted him by email to tell him i sent some of his things to him that i felt he should have back and he wrote me back to tell me that what we shared was special but it had to end sooner or later because we where never going to get married but it was special. and he hopes everything is well with me is he crazy well I am far from well what is he trying to accomplish by telling me this |
If he has a personality disorder you're just wasting your precious time writing to him. Each time you write to him or speak to him, you'll get hurt.
I know it's difficult but forget him and never contact him.
Cheer up, it was a good thing to you that he has gone.
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| Topic: Sometimes...
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| Subject: Sometimes... - Posted: 5/22/2005 5:30:05 AM
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And that capability of learning from your mistakes, places you on the group of clever people and passionate as well.
Questioning what we are, what do we want and where do we want to go, is the best thing to do to find our path on life.
There will be moments we’ll fail and others we’ll win. That’s life and that’s what turns you different from those who think they don’t need to question anything.
Remember the Greek philosophers! Remember Socrates: I just know I know nothing! Aristoteles spoke about Ethics. To him, soul has three functions: vegetative, sensitive and intelectual.
Platão (sorry, I don’t know how to say his name in English), used to question successively the external appearance of things, separating the abstract. After that operation, you would get your real “you”.
But, following Descartes “I think, therefore I exist”, we just know that we live, so, we need to learn everything based on what we believe and on what we think it’s better.
Nice post Alexander. I like this!
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/22/2005 5:46:06 AM
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Ok, we all have two sides: the dark and the light! Generally we tend to act using the feelings and emotions of the side of the light. The bad that happens to us, placing us bad feelings, anger, rage… it’s hidden on the dark side. We just need to be more sensitive or facing some situation that gives an order to our uncounscient, and the dark side comes to the surface.
It’s normal feeling anger, the rage inside us if, for instance, we were bullied.
On my case, I have lots of difficulties in trusting people. Is it fair? No it isn’t because others are not guilty of what happened to us. Perhaps religion may help on this issue because it teaches us something very important: the forgiveness!
When we forgive we don’t feel like you feel now! Forgive and forget! You will never be able to get rid of your dark side (I think), you just need to balance it right. In fact, we cannot be neither too good nor too bad.
There is a balance we need to find according to the situations. Oooppppsss Alex, it’s difficult to talk about it. J
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| Topic: Sometimes...
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| Subject: Sometimes... - Posted: 5/22/2005 5:49:24 AM
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Yes it makes. Anyway rather than just looking at others qualities try to find yours, and man you have a lot of them.
You know, we cannot be equal! Each person has a different personality. You just need to pick up the best you have on you.
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/22/2005 6:04:51 AM
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| michellewilder wrote: |
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Show of hands, who was bullied in life, how has it affected you now, and how have you dealt with it? I try to be nice to hide the "other" side of those scars. The asshole side of what it does to a man. To become an asshole.
I think I have reached saturation point at how much "nice" I can show. Like assholes, I have an opinion, more often than not I have at least two and try to present the best one, again hiding the "other". But now after recent events I have decided to share that side with all. It ought not be construed as being dishonest, but the fact that being bullied added to learning a pie slice of hatred...it is a part of me. It is a part of being a human being.
Has anyone ever been held up at gunpoint? Robbed? Beaten reatedly? I think being "nice" is a path I took to hide having this happen, as if I were to blame and they were meant to occur these things. Anyone? I think many of us have actually. I learned to hate in part from being bullied, being nice is a response to the shame I feel because this happened. and it happened in and out of family. Yeah, being nice means hiding the bad things that happened, at least for me. |
i’ve been bullied in my life. in high school i was bullied a lot for a couple of reasons. first reason was that i was an early developer ahead of the rest of the girls in my class. second reason was that my family was middle class, not rich like a lot of the kids in my class. so i was bullied for the clothes i wore. i was held up at gun point while i was working at a pharmacy while i was in college. starred down the barrel of a gun for a good 10 minutes, but it sure seemed like forever. i was in a relationship once where an ex boyfriend beat me and my husband is abusive emotionally sometimes. the highschool stuff killed my self-esteem a lot which i think left me open for the abusive later on in life and still. i felt i didn’t deserve anything better than that at the time. the being held up part when i was in college scared me so much that i won’t even let my 4 yr old son have anything that resembles a gun of any kind in the house. i’m just scared to death of guns and i don’t want my son thinking they’re ok to play with.
all in all, i think that all have helped make me who i am today. i dealt with each one separately and one at a time as they happened. lots of therapy for the highschool crap, the abusive ex boyfriend and the gun hold up. currently i’m working on leaving my husband as i realize now that i do deserve better and i deserve to have what i want out of a relationship.
now i’ve got what people have told me is a terrible attitude sometimes towards life. my new thing is that i don’t give a damn what happens in my life anymore. as long as my son & i are alright, that’s all i care about. i don’t care if i’m with someone or alone. a lot of my feelings have been shut off i think due to my abusive relationships. but hopefully once i’m out on my own with just myself and my son, i’ll find what it is that i’m looking for.
so i think most everyone has two sides to them. a dark side and a light side. i feel most people who’ve over come a lot tend to go with the light side as that’s where they want to be most of the time. sometimes people let their emotions get in the way and that leads to anger, rage, etc. |
I totally agree with you!
Hey, it seems you are a winner! That's great!
See Alexander, you have here an example on how to deal with that dark side ;)
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| Subject: High Schoooooool! - Posted: 5/22/2005 8:02:04 AM
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Well, my High School for sure, was different from yours as it is a school from another country. My High Scool was known in the city for being very demanding with their students. In fact, there were some tough teachers but we survived J.
I miss my colleagues. I lost contact with the majority of them. Some days ago I knew one of the girls in class, is a manager in a hotel in Lima, Peru and I am very surprised.
I also miss the parties and our gatherings at the cafés near the School. In one of those meetings we decided to surprise our Maths teacher. She was mean and tough, so, one day, we’ve decided there should be no Maths class that day. What did we do? We went to the place where all the room keys were kept and we threw to a lake the key of the Maths room’s door.
The stuff at school, didn’t have a second copy of the key and we were all sent to what you call the Principal. We were all punished! During one week we were obliged to stay at the Library during breaks, otherwise we could be sent to another school, expelled from the one we were attending classes.
Needless is to say that we all had a hard time with Maths classes. She became even more demanding and we all sweat a lot to pass.
My French teacher was a very sweet lady and by coincidence she lives near me. She still remembers me and she loves to kiss my face and she often invites me for a cup of tea.
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| Topic: Life is tough. Its tougher when youre stupid.
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| Subject: Life is tough. Its tougher when youre stupid. - Posted: 5/22/2005 8:21:43 AM
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One day two kids stole the car’s radio from one colleague of mine. When he was approaching the car, he saw the two kids inside. He ran to catch them but obviously the kids ran as well. He was able to catch one and he took him to our room at job. He was 13 years old. My colleague picked up his hand and placed it on a photocopier machine. He said, this machine is a machine for the truth. If you don’t say who is the other guy who was with you, when I’ll hit the green key (the copy button) you can’t imagine what is going to happen to you. Before he hit the button, the boy started to scream “Please, don’t do that, I will tell you who is the other guy and where he lives…”
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/22/2005 8:39:58 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | O.K. where do I start?
remember that tall skinny geek girl in school with acne, glasses and an odd personality? that was me.
I was psychologically & emotionally tortured at home & at school from 3rd grade on. By my peers AND teachers. The stories would go on & on. By high school I was poked, kicked and beaten up a few times. Our home was egged. Nasty words were yelled at me. I lost a scholarship for a variety of f-d up reasons including "socially unacceptable." I was a pariah of the highest order.
When Columbine happened I remembered thinking, WOW I used to fantasize about doing that. To this day, when someone whispers in a check out line (or anywhere) to their friend - I IMMEDIATELY think they MUST be talking about me - of course 95% of the time I don’t even KNOW these people.
My senior year, a girl who had a vendetta against me cornered me with a bunch of her girl/jock friends in the locker room shower and beat me black, blue & bloody while a teacher stood in the doorway and watched. Nowadays that would be a lawsuit. Back then? well my psycho mom figured I MUST have done something to deserve it.
Boyfriends? what are those? Friends I’d had for years backstabbed. I still have a hard time trusting and after Jeff-ass my trust level is ZIPPO. I don’t venture out anymore. I don’t try to belong. When I worked I tried to get to know the group of women who worked with me. They iced me out. So I ate dinner alone and read a book. It was safer that way.
Glasses broken, Rocks throw in my face, bruises, cuts.... the list goes on & on & on.
one of my girls is being bullied now in 2nd grade.... despite the school minimizing it - I don’t think its a small issue. Trust me I am gonna kick butt and take names.
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Oooopppss Shattered! How did teachers and stuff at school allow this? My God!
Well, teach your girl on how to defend herself even if one day out of school, she will need to break someone's face. At least from that moment on, they will think twice...
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| Topic: High Schoooooool!
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| Subject: High Schoooooool! - Posted: 5/22/2005 12:50:53 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | Nani,
I just checked out your photo gallery. Are all of those pics of Portugal? If so, your country is quite spectacular and beautiful. What are the main tourist attractions there? |
The pictures are all from my city, Porto! What you see is the old town by the river!
Well this country is beautiful. My pictures are all from the city of Porto but if you want to see more check out this site http://www.pbase.com/diasdosreis/portugal_stock
Each picture is an entry for a gallery of a region of Portugal.
We are a country of sun and it’s difficult to tell you what are the main attractions here. You can find the old mixed with the modern. There are nice beaches, nice mountains and the countryside is spectacular!
If you click here http://www.cm-cinfaes.pt/inicial2.htm, you will see the small village where I was born. Then, click on the home page and it will turn you into Portuguese. At your left, try to find “Galeria Fotográfica” and you will see more photos from my region. Hope you like, you’re already my guest!!
Anyway, the US, must be also spectacular and immense!
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| Topic: High Schoooooool!
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| Subject: High Schoooooool! - Posted: 5/23/2005 1:27:10 AM
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| krismiss wrote: | | Absolutely stunning, Nani! Your hometown is gorgeous! I love the vibrant colors. It looks like a very clean country. Is this true? I would love to go there someday. |
All is true Krismiss, no photo tricks.
If you want to come here one day, you're already my guest!
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| Topic: Is there such a thing as trust after cheating??
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| Subject: Is there such a thing as trust after cheating?? - Posted: 5/23/2005 6:25:07 AM
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I am with Shattered.
Don't go out with him, don't answer his phone calls, etc, etc.
About the other guy, I also think the same.
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/23/2005 6:48:39 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: |
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One last Jewish concept is TESHUVA - or ’making amends.’ I really feel a lot of shame for what happened with Jeff. Shame that I got involved with someone who was MARRIED and enabled his sex addiction as well as his narcissism. Red flags were there and I ignored them because I had loved him for so long in silence and suddenly, there he was in my face. My website and supporting others who are going through this pain is part of my TESHUVA. But I am always honest, I am not going to lie to someone just to avoid the pain.... I am just careful how I put things. Maybe years of hearing I was too skinny, too fat, too intense, too ugly, too wierd, too demanding, blah blah blah taught me the power of words & of healthy self-defense. |
You shouldn’t be ashamed Shattered. What happened with Jeff it’s his fault and not yours. Keep that in mind, please!
When I knew I’ve been involved with a married guy, I felt ashamed the same way as you. I know one priest (Catholic) and I’ve talked to him saying that I was feeling bad and ashmed because I dated a man who was already married.
Do you know what he told me? No, there is no sin! HE, he commited a sin but not you. Forgive him because Christ also forgave (you know the old dogma from Catholic Church).Stay in peace with your heart because my dear he will never be in peace after what he did to you. He knows God will punish him one day. (Well, I don’t know if I should believe he is not in peace, I really believe he is laughing).
So, never feel ashamed. It just happened! What you do to help others is fantastic. Maybe God up there (and I am talking about only one God, the same for Jews, Catholics, etc) needed you to help others.
Reading it under Catholic beliefs, maybe this is the provation to deserve Heaven.
You are spreading the good for one reason and maybe you were one of the chosen.

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| Topic: I think its time for another hot man thread
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| Subject: I think its time for another hot man thread - Posted: 5/23/2005 11:19:51 AM
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| hellhathnofury wrote: |
| Oh dear oh dear!!! I didnt know all that... well i guess he is just eye candy and not adorable after all. But in that grey coat i def would!!! |
Didn’t you know about the incident on Chelsea Stadium during the match Chelsea-Porto for the Champions League?
UEFA wanted to punish the fans of Porto but José Mourinho wrote to the UEFA stuff, saying it was personal. He had his reasons ;)
Anyway, he is sexy. Ah, and that Armani coat with the collar always up ... makes him even more sexy.
By the way, he is an example of self determination. He has the ability to pick up a guy walking with a cane and transforming him into a soccer player. That’s why he is considered the best coach in the world.
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/23/2005 11:57:06 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | I know I am going to Heaven, Nani - I hope there is better company for my there than there has been here!
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Well, I cannot tell you what kind of companies are there waiting for each one of us but I do know one thing: I don't want to know.
I am like a colleague of mine. He is always saying he doesn't care if he is going to die one day. He just doesn't want to die neither by day nor by night!

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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/23/2005 12:37:34 PM
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Shattered,
Do I need to cross the Atlantic to smash you woman? :)
What happened is past! It was bad but you’re alive and you are needed alive. You have your kids, in the future you will have your grandchildren. Your grandchildren will need you. You are needed to spread love! They need to hear your story by your own mouth!
If that makes you happy, it was good for me “to know” you.
So smile, otherwise, I will try to find you to pull your ear and you watch out, I am mean! :) Oh so mean!! :)
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| Topic: Unbelievable!!
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| Subject: Unbelievable!! - Posted: 5/23/2005 12:53:11 PM
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Damn, you’re so right!
You know some people have a brain inside the head, others just have shit. To turn things even worse they create those websites for those who have the brain, pardon, the shit, with a direct link to the bowels.
After reading all the tips and instructions from those clever posts, they are ready for their moment of glory. :)
Sorry for my poetic tone here but I don't know any other way on how to vent about it.

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| Topic: Married guy needs advice
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| Subject: Married guy needs advice - Posted: 5/23/2005 1:28:57 PM
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| alch wrote: |
| A simple card to let her know you appreciate her, a walk around the street holding her hand, getting in the car and getting an ice cream, setting the table with paper products pretending it is a picnic, wild flowers in a coca cola bottle, working on a puzzle together, talking about the good old dating days, these are things that I wished my husband would have done with me..why plan elaborate things when simple things can be the answer......hang in there because it is hard raising a family and trying to be sexy. Just let her know you love her and appreciate her. |
You know Alch,
You are one caring person, so nice and at the same time so reasonable, full of wisdom. You don’t need to talk too much to say it all, do you?
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| Topic: How They Suck You Back In.....
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| Subject: How They Suck You Back In..... - Posted: 5/24/2005 1:00:18 AM
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I know a lot of cases where the woman forgives the abuser and let him get back into her life. She forgives all the bad behaviour thinking things will get better because she thinks he loves her and he’s really working on the relationship based on mutual respect.
This is a big mistake! If she was living a Hell before she will live a worse Hell in the future. I never knew any case, where in fact, the abuser turned into a normal person, respecting the wife, kids, etc...
This only happens because for some reason or another, a woman fears being alone. The abuser, knowing this vulnerability will try to have the victim back into his life. He will use any trick he might have on his pocket.
The abuser doesn’t want to be alone. He needs someone to soak. He doesn’t want to be pointed out by society because he lives alone.
Once the victim is back into his life, she will fall down to Dante’s Hell. Worse than before, over and over...
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| Topic: A Critic Takes On the Logic of Female Orgasm
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| Subject: A Critic Takes On the Logic of Female Orgasm - Posted: 5/24/2005 5:35:24 AM
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Shalom!
Hey nice post. It's good to break some myths!
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/24/2005 6:20:48 AM
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Shalom again Shattered,
This is what we could do to Jeff !
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| Topic: My first post (Denial or What)
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| Subject: My first post (Denial or What) - Posted: 5/24/2005 8:41:08 AM
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Lena (wow I have a sister with the same name),
You gave some detais but it’s difficult to guess what is his agenda. I really believe you might be dealing with a very difficult issue. In my opinion he may NOT be cheating on you. Do you know if someone has told him you were having an affair outside? Sometimes, we are just talking with someone and those who are always talking bad at our backs may say we’re having an affair. You know that type of people who are always making comments about the life of others? You may be a victim of something similar.
How do you get along with his family? Did you have any recent conflict with them? You said he goes often to his sister.
Do you know if he follows you when you are out of home? I think you are dealing with a very jealous man. A jealous man sees things where they don’t exist. A jealous man always thinks the wife cheats on him and dear if that is true you will have a hard time even with a simple going to the supermarket. He may think you’re going to meet someone.
I believe someone accused you of something OR he saw something that makes him believe you are cheating.
Well, I just rambled here but try to do a flasback remembering when did he start to do those things. Then, try to remember what happened. It may give you a clue.
This is just what I believe.
Good luck
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| Topic: My first post (Denial or What)
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| Subject: My first post (Denial or What) - Posted: 5/24/2005 8:48:41 AM
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Ah Ok, he had an affair in the past with someone at the office!
Hhhmm, he treats you like shit! He wants to control, he is JEALOUS!! Oh dear, run away...
On editing: Do you know that film performed by Julia Roberts, called Sleeping with the Enemy?
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/24/2005 12:20:24 PM
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Yes Shattered!! Can I had Nathan as well? We could kill two rabbits with just one shot...LOL
Count on me, I'm already there!! I would just add one thing: we could let him just with underwear at the Temple's door...LOL
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| Topic: Women also cheat
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| Subject: Women also cheat - Posted: 5/24/2005 12:50:00 PM
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Unfortunatelly you’re right! Yes, women can cheat the same way as men. I’ve just answered someone on this board and it was about a cheating woman as well.
I don’t know if we are facing a lack of values or if it has to do with this rat race. Can we talk about a crisis when it comes to values in Western societies? Maybe.
Modern society is in a permanent changing. Fortunatelly women work and we have reached unthinkable work places to reach just 50 years ago. We are on the military, we are on the police, we are everywhere…
For instance, in my country we represent more than 50% of the voters.
So, as we develop, women also tend to behave like men. Women also cheat and it’s devasting as well.
I’d rather say this is human related and not specifically from women or man.
It has to do with honesty, character and integrity!
And I agree with you: TV shows, soaps, etc, doesn’t help anything at all as the quality is very, very low but we all know they think about the audiences. They broadcast for the majority. And majority doesn’t mean quality…
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| Topic: Who was Bullied...?
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| Subject: Who was Bullied...? - Posted: 5/24/2005 1:04:04 PM
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Ok, no underwear.
After this show we were providing for free, we would set them on a very small cell with no light. Just a very small hole on the door to throw some bread and water.
From time to time they could have a shower with very hot olive oil, like in the Middle Age!

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| Topic: My first post (Denial or What)
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| Subject: My first post (Denial or What) - Posted: 5/25/2005 7:34:15 AM
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Lena,
Go to Abuse Help on this message board and read Shattered's post, called How They Suck You Back In...
It's an interesting post to you, I think...
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| Topic: NEW PICTURE THREAD.
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| Subject: NEW PICTURE THREAD. - Posted: 5/25/2005 1:48:04 PM
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| Darla wrote: |
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Loved your poem Darla! |
Very nice poem and tuching..esp. when missing someone. |
Thanks. Yes, it's about missing. I wrote it thinking about my Godfather.
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| Topic: My husband lies about porn etc...
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| Subject: My husband lies about porn etc... - Posted: 5/25/2005 1:52:32 PM
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| smoothangel wrote: | Yes but not to a great extent. More a man being a man. This just seems different. He is spending tons of cash, denying it to high heaven he even has it.
I know this probably seems petty to alot of people and I actually dont know why I cant deal with it. I think its just the bold lying to my face and money. I am just not delaing with it well.
Angel |
It's strange for sure. Why does he deny it. Well, he must be a porno addict, otherwise, I don't understand as well.
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| Topic: NEW PICTURE THREAD.
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| Subject: NEW PICTURE THREAD. - Posted: 5/25/2005 1:56:08 PM
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I don’t understand it either Chick.
Do you mind that I tell what my job is by e-mail?
Editing: I sent you an e-mail Chick!
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/25/2005 2:21:13 PM
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Someone at job has already told me about Anna Lalick but I think I never heard anything from her. Which is her best song to you? I am going to download a song from her to listen.
I also wonder about Krismiss and Alex.
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/25/2005 2:26:18 PM
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Ok, I am going to download the album Wreck of the Day!
Thanks
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| Topic: stefanee
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| Subject: stefanee - Posted: 5/25/2005 3:11:08 PM
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Chick,
I'm reading it by the first time. Well, you already know by now.
I can just tell you that I do testify a lot in Court to the point recently I did a course on how to testify in Court.
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| Topic: Cairo & Morocco Photos Page 22 of
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| Subject: Cairo & Morocco Photos Page 22 of - Posted: 5/26/2005 2:31:36 AM
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Nice photos LLM.
I remembered Marrakesk!
Hey, congrats! You could stand the snake around your neck! Me? No way. Me and snakes, we have a bad relationship. :)
It was noticed here in our TV that Angelina Jolie and Bradd Pitt were not discret in the hotel in Marrakesh. Angelina Jolie yellings were heard all over the hotel!
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| Topic: Cairo & Morocco Photos Page 22 of
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| Subject: Cairo & Morocco Photos Page 22 of - Posted: 5/26/2005 5:48:18 AM
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I need to rectify what I said on my post. It was in Kenya and not in Morocco, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, were making all that noise. :) at their suite.
It is written on that site http://www.correiomanha.pt/noticiaImprimir.asp?idCanal=133&id=159423 , that people at the hotel thought they were being attacked by a wild animal. :)
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/26/2005 1:16:43 PM
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Hey Chick, I loved the album. She has a very soft voice. She made me remind one singer that had a song called My Name Is Luca. (I don’t remember her name right now).
About Krismiss and Alex, I don’t want to say that I am worried but I found it strange. Both used to post here a lot. About Alex, the only thing I know is that he posted two threads called Sometimes and Have You Been Bullied, and then he disappeared without trace. It seemed he needed to vent.
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| Topic: the craziest thing......
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| Subject: the craziest thing...... - Posted: 5/26/2005 1:32:43 PM
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Forgive and forget is always the best therapy. We cannot live thinking only in our miseries, can we? There is no way to survive and to get stronger if we're just focused on revenge. On Stefanee's case, they got friends. To all the others the best is despise.
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| Topic: Is the chat working?
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| Subject: Is the chat working? - Posted: 5/26/2005 1:58:28 PM
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Hi
I’ve tried to enter on the chat room but it says, chatroom currently full. Is it working?
I've tried a lot of times and I cannot join in. Maybe another time. :)
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/27/2005 1:59:21 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
Ok that post was totally weird...the song posted twice and I didn’t type me is luca.Dododododo twilight zone. When I went to edit the second lyrics out..none of the lyrics were even there :-0
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Right Chick,
It’s Suzanne Vega! I used to sing that song a lot! And yes you’re right, the song is about domestic violence and denial. ;)
Hey, Alex is alive and well. He's back. :)
Still wonder about Krismiss.
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/27/2005 2:11:14 PM
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| krismiss wrote: | Hey Chick,
Joss Stone’s newest CD is on order from the library. I met her a couple of years ago at Borders. She was doing a store tour across the country. She had just turned 16 a few days before her appearance here. She is just as gracious and humble in person as she appears in interviews. Very lovely young woman!!! However, she signed my signed my CD and spelled my name wrong. She wrote. " [My Mis-spelled Name] B Happy X-X-X Joss Stone-PEACE!" Such a cute girl!
Rachel Yamagata reminds me of Imogen Heap. I like her, but if the library doesn’t have her, I probably won’t go out and buy her CD.
I highly recommend the new Tift Merritt CD, Tambourine. Listen to "Good Hearted Man" on Amazon. Great song!!! The library doesn’t have her first album, so I think I may go buy it this weekend.
Busy week here. Busy at work all week, but off today and Monday. Woooohooooo!!! I had a dentist appt and a week ago I started having dreams that the dentist was going to have to pull all of my teeth. As it turns out, not one single problem. Phew!
Had a couple of dates this week. One is a definite NO! The other guy is a possibility, but I’m leaning towards no.
A couple of other things going on right now, but I’m not ready to discuss yet because I don’t want to jinx them.
I have to make a couple of things for a couple of picnics this weekend, but not sure what yet. I don’t want to spend a lot of time cooking. I’m already chained to the big basket of clothes that need to be ironed. Grrrr! I really need to start taking my clothes to the cleaners.
And the most important event of the week---the season finale of LOST!!! Who saw it? What are your thoughts?? I thought it was a great cliffhanger. Can’t wait for the Fall!! |
Welcome back ;)
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/27/2005 2:14:56 PM
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Chick and Kris,
If you love music there are two russian sites (legal) where you can buy music for a very low price. In one of them, you just pay 10 cents of a dollar (which is around 7 cents of Euro to me). A full album is around 1,10$.
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/27/2005 2:30:47 PM
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No, it is economical because you don't buy the CD. You pay for the songs and you just need to download them. They are in mp3 format. Then, you just need to burn them on a CD, using Nero, for instance, and at the same time you are burning the musics on the CD, they will be burned on CD Audio format.
The sites are:
http://www.mp3search.ru/
http://www.allofmp3.com
When you enter the sites, probably you're entering a page written in Russian. Don't worry, you just need to click on Great Britain's flag and there you are in English.
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/27/2005 3:38:16 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
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Chick and Kris,
If you love music there are two russian sites(legal) where you can buy music for a very low price. In one of them,you just pay 10 cents of a dollar (which is around 7 cents of Euro tome). A full album is around 1,10$. |
I don’t have CD burner so that’s out for me. |
Not necessarily Chick. You can save the musics on a USB Memory Stick and burn them on another computer.
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| Topic: Kris
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| Subject: Kris - Posted: 5/27/2005 3:52:52 PM
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A USB Memory Stick is a portable device that you plug on one of your USB ports. They are cheap and you can save anything you want there. You can save musics too :)
Then you just need to plug the Memory Stick in a computer with a CD Burner and you are able to burn them, like if they were saved on the hard drive of that computer.
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| Topic: Hi Everyone
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| Subject: Hi Everyone - Posted: 5/28/2005 10:51:36 AM
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| thetaxguru wrote: | ...He claimed he was never married and had planned on introducing to me to his mom within the next month. I say bullshit! We talked until 5am. I finally had to go to sleep. He slept on my couch and I fell asleep on my bed. He took me to breakfast the next morning.
After we came back from breakfast we sat here and talked. He said I’d like to pick up where we left off. I said are you for real? You lied to me, used me and betrayed me! You wouldn’t take any of my phone calls despite my cries to you for an explanation. You disappeared as if I were nothing! Do you have any idea how many times I would be on the way home from the grocery store and start crying uncontrollably? Do you have any idea how many times on the weekend I would wake up and relive our last conversation trying to find out what I did wrong and now know I did nothing wrong! Do you have any idea how much you fucked over my head? I wasted many months of my life because of your dumb ass!...
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Taxguru
According to therapists and wise people, we should never say them how bad and miserable they made us feel. They get smug and happy because if we say those things, they can see they've reached their goal. We cannot say that! Never!
I think this man was trying to get you back just to make exactly the same he did before.
That's good you are on a new relationship! However, I think, he'll be back again, trying to get you back into his life.
I wouldn't tell him how much he made me suffer because I could bet he doesn't care and he'll never care.
Good luck!
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| Topic: Hi Everyone
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| Subject: Hi Everyone - Posted: 5/28/2005 11:36:18 AM
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Taxguru,
I’ve also dated a man I met online. During three years I thought I’ve found Mr. Right, till the day I started to act driven by my guts. That’s when I found out he was married. You can’t imagine how I’ve felt! It was a mixed feeling of anger, sadness, rage and shame.
By the first time of my life, I’ve tripped on the word sociopath. All the definitions of a sociopath were stamped all over him.
I’ve tried to let him know how I was feeling. The feedback was undifference and I was blamed for things till now I don’t understand. He denied everything even when I sent him his marriage license record.
I know now they just use people to reach their goals. How they do that? They act by impulse not thinking on the consequences. They don’t care if they act absurd or risky.
As they cannot love or feel regret, telling them their actions hurt, has the same effect as talking to fishes or to a wall. They won’t change. They also have a lack of cultural values.
So, talking to them and “making them see” is just a waste of time.
I think you are on the right path now. I am doing the same as you about relationships.
I am glad you are on a good position in your job and I hope all goes well with your new man.
Good luck and keeping being strong!
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| Topic: Computers
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| Subject: Computers - Posted: 5/28/2005 8:22:52 PM
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Lady
I have a Compaq Laptop and till now I had no problems. I've just added 512 MB of RAM to the original 256 MB. So, now it's very fast.
The PC I have, has no brand. I've set it up by myself. I bought a monitor on one place, the CPU on another, etc, and there he is working. :)
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| Topic: I met a new guy.
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| Subject: I met a new guy. - Posted: 5/29/2005 8:35:22 AM
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Smoking cigarettes has nothing to do with integrity and character. It’s just an addiction. Smoking weed is another addiction but with one difference: it’s ilegal.
The best you have to do is making him understand that smoking cigarettes is bad to health but don’t impose him to quit all of a sudden. Cigarettes have one substance called nicotine and it is too tough to ask it. Nicotine creates dependency and the process of dropping cigarettes must be gradual.
As I’ve said above, you cannot define a person’s character just because of the smoke. There is no possible relationship.
About smoking weed, it is said (and Alex said the same) that is not so bad as smoking cigarettes. It may be true but the problem is (obviously it depends on each one) it can lead in the future to the use of heavy drugs.
Anyway, try to focus yourself on college. It should be your priority! You are so young girl! With your age, first come the studies, job and career. A man cames after!!
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| Topic: Computers
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| Subject: Computers - Posted: 5/29/2005 8:57:45 AM
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| thetaxguru wrote: | My friend Bill likes MACS as they never get viruses. |
There are viruses designed to spread on a Macintosh system as far as I know.
I was told Linux is safe although I am not so sure. I think all systems are vulnerable.
And yes, Sony Vaio Laptops are good. I also like Toshiba.
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| Topic: I met a new guy.
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| Subject: I met a new guy. - Posted: 5/29/2005 12:20:45 PM
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I need to clarify something I wrote on my previous post because I can see it was misunderstood.
I am going to speak about pot smoke, the leaves of Cannabis based on some notes I wrote down during a seminar about drugs.
When I said pot smoking could be a gateway to heavy drugs, I didn’t mean each pot smoker would end in heavy drugs, like cocaine or heroine. In fact, this is a myth.
Anyway, it all depends on how often Cannabis is smoked, on the quantity of each dosis and also on the quality of the leaves.
Cannabis doesn’t provoke physical dependency. It just provokes psychological dependency. The effects come in a short period and generally are:
- the increase of cardiac frequency;
- red eyes;
- dilatation of the bronchis;
- cough;
- photophobia;
- reduction of whimper;
- frequent feelings of euphoria;
- sleepiness;
- great sensivity to external stimulations;
- alteration of immediate memory and capacity to carry through tasks demanding multiple and varied operations.
- Etc, etc…
Smoking Cannabis doesn’t always bring well-being sensations. Sometimes can bring symptons of anxiety, paranoid and panic attacks and after the initial euphoria, depressive symptons can appear.
It is also possible to identify some symptons on some consumers of Cannabis with time: great risk of lung cancer, diminishing of testosteron, apathy, tendency for isolation, absent minded, passivity.
The majority of Cannabis’ smokers don’t feel the need “to fall” on heavy drugs but there are individual and social facts involving each one of the smokers that can lead them to the use of heavy drugs.
So, we cannot say a weed smoker will be a heavy drug addict but on the other hand a gateway can be open to it. It all DEPENDS on each individual.
The only thing I know is that the great majority of drugs addicts started on Cannabis. We are talking about a drug accepted by society but we cannot say it is harmless.
Hope I was clear now. :)
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| Topic: I met a new guy.
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| Subject: I met a new guy. - Posted: 5/29/2005 12:28:46 PM
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Bunnyluvin,
Sorry to ask but do you live alone or do you live with your parents? Do you have brothers and sisters?
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| Topic: I met a new guy.
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| Subject: I met a new guy. - Posted: 5/29/2005 4:22:51 PM
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You know Krismiss, sometimes I laugh with my own mistakes!!!
Ok, I meant lachrymal, the tears. Even when we don’t cry, our lachrymal bag is always working, otherwise our eyes were dry. They cannot be dry!
There is a reduction on the amount of the lachrymal bag.
(Sorry for the mistakes)
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| Topic: what is he doing to me!!?
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| Subject: what is he doing to me!!? - Posted: 5/30/2005 11:57:22 AM
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Nessa,
I feel terrible sorry for you! Maybe I understand you better than what you can think. Your guy was dating you and at the same time planning to get married to another woman. He married her and he used you to go shopping for the wedding!
What a jerk!!
I understand you want to let him know how mad, sad and miserable you are feeling BUT DON'T DO IT! If you talk to him, you will be feeding his ego! He used you, you were toyed! He is a piece of shit!
Move on, heal your wounds and start to think on other things to help you. Don't waste more of your precious time thinking on a jerk.
You are in shock and I understand but please don't talk to him!
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| Topic: Another idea
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| Subject: Another idea - Posted: 5/30/2005 12:41:24 PM
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LLM,
I had another idea. Well, by this time you must be calling me crazy, I guess, but when I was trying to find out international phone lines for abuse help I thought of something new to your site.
What about having a home page written in more than one language? The initial home page in English but with links to more languages. You could insert the national flags for Spanish, Portuguese and French. When someone clicked on that flag, they could read your home page on the correspondant language. I can translate the home page, to the other languages, if you want so.
In addition to this new feature, new Message Boards could appear: a messga board to post in Spanish (I believe there is a great number of posters who can write in Spanish), other in Portuguese (trying to pick up women from Brazil as well, and obviously I need to help here) and another board for the French language (not only for France but also trying to listen from francophone women - Québec in Canada, Martinique, Algeria, Morroco, etc, etc).
What do you think about my crazy idea?
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| Topic: Is he into me or not?
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| Subject: Is he into me or not? - Posted: 5/30/2005 3:38:00 PM
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Maybe he is and I agree with Alexander.
He calls you, he spends time with you. Give more time to time to know him better and understand his type of personality. Go slow and you'll have your answers.
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| Topic: DAMMIT!
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| Subject: DAMMIT! - Posted: 5/30/2005 4:42:46 PM
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I don’t understand how CS works in the US. Would some of you explain it to me, please? It’s just curiosity because in the majority of European countries, CS goes until the child is 18. CS here is based on a percentage of father’s salary and it only stops if the father gets fired from job and makes no money at all.
Is it possible to write to her Bar Association and explaining them her bad work? What would be the consequences if you did so?
At the same time is it possible to have an attorney without paying the services? Here it is possible! If you say to the Court you have no money to pay a lawyer, the Justice system finds one for free.
Our law says everybody must have the same rights for Justice. Those who can't pay can have an attorney as well.
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| Topic: DAMMIT!
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| Subject: DAMMIT! - Posted: 5/30/2005 4:49:47 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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Idon’t understand how CS works in the US. Would some of you explainit tome, please? It’s just curiosity because in the majority ofEuropeancountries, CS goes until the child is 18. CS here isbased on apercentage of father’s salary and it only stops if thefather gets firedfrom job and makes no money at all.
Is it possible to write to her Bar Association and explaining them her bad work? What would be the consequences if you did so?
Atthesame time is it possible to have an attorney without payingtheservices? Here it is possible! If you say to the Court you havenomoney to pay a lawyer, the Justice system finds one for free. |
Nani CS works on the same system here.Hopefully Ocean’s situation was just a miscommunication and it means the extra CS will cease at the end of the year.
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Thank you Chick!
So, how can CS stop for her at the end of the year? Under this circunstance she needs to charge against that lawyer at the Bar Association.
Ah, ok, we're talking about extra CS!
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| Topic: Happy Memorial Day!
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| Subject: Happy Memorial Day! - Posted: 5/30/2005 4:59:59 PM
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So, it seems you all are having a day off! That’s nice. Our next holiday is the 10th of June, our National Day.
You all have a nice day off. I have worked! :(
For me, is already Tuesday! It seems that I live in the future. :)
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| Topic: triggered AGAIN
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| Subject: triggered AGAIN - Posted: 5/30/2005 5:07:32 PM
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My dear Shattered,
You know what? Do what I’ve been trying to do with Nathan’s memory. Imagine he is dead somewhere without a place to make the cult. You cannot put a flower in his grave!
He died and you don’t know where he is because the body is lost!
He doesn’t deserve flowers anyway and the show must go on, like in the song!
Artist: Queen Song: The Show Must Go On
Empty spaces - what are we living for Abandoned places - I guess we know the score On and on, does anybody know what we are looking for... Another hero, another mindless crime Behind the curtain, in the pantomime Hold the line, does anybody want to take it anymore The show must go on, The show must go on Inside my heart is breaking My make-up may be flaking But my smile still stays on. Whatever happens, I’ll leave it all to chance Another heartache, another failed romance On and on, does anybody know what we are living for? I guess I’m learning, I must be warmer now I’ll soon be turning, round the corner now Outside the dawn is breaking But inside in the dark I’m aching to be free The show must go on The show must go on Inside my heart is breaking My make-up may be flaking But my smile still stays on My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die I can fly - my friends The show must go on The show must go on I’ll face it with a grin I’m never giving in On - with the show - I’ll top the bill, I’ll overkill I have to find the will to carry on On with the - On with the show - The show must go on...
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| Topic: Happy Memorial Day!
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| Subject: Happy Memorial Day! - Posted: 5/30/2005 6:40:16 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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So, it seems you all are having a day off! That’s nice. Our next holiday is the 10th of June, our National Day.
You all have a nice day off. I have worked! :(
For me, is already Tuesday! It seems that I live in the future. :) |
What holidays do you have in your country and what is the meaning?
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Chick,
We have those national holidays:
1st January – New Year’s Day
On February or March (it is always on a Tuesday, mobile holiday) – Carnival
On Easter, we celebrate Good Friday and Easter Day
25th April – Freedom Day (we celebrate the Cup that ended dictatorship in this country and brought us to modernity and democracy, allowing us to be a Member of the European Union and facing the same chalenges of the other countries of this old continent).
1st May – Labour Day
10th June – Day of Portugal. One of our greatest writers called Luís de Camões, died on this date in 1580. Luís de Camões is for the Portuguese language like Shakespeare is for English.
19th June – Religious holiday – Body of God
15th August – Religious holiday – Assumption of Our Lady
5th October – Implementation of the republic – the fall of monarchy
1st November – Religious holiday – All Saints Day
1st December – Independence Day – between the period of 1580-1640, Spain seized Portugal because our King didn’t have any child to go to the throne and he died young in the battle of Ceuta (Morocco) which used to be an old Portuguese city there. There was a dinastic crisis and the King of Spain seized this country. On the 1st December of 1640, the Spanish were sent home.
8th December – Religious holiday and the ancient mother’s day. We celebrate Our Lady of Conceição, whom it is said, she appeared to the 1st King of Portugal in 1146, helping him in his battles. She is the Our Lady of Portugal as well as Our Lady of Fátima.
25th December – Christmas
24th June – Holiday just for the city of Porto. We celebrate the saint of this city – St. John. One of the greatest street parties of Europe. It goes all night long till morning in almost every streets!
Well I must be crazy. It's almost 2am here and tomorrow at 9am I need to be working :) Sweet dreams to all of you.
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| Topic: Happy Memorial Day!
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| Subject: Happy Memorial Day! - Posted: 5/31/2005 2:04:43 AM
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| krismiss wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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We have those national holidays:
On Easter, we celebrate Good Friday and Easter Day
19th June – Religious holiday – Body of God
15th August – Religious holiday – Assumption of Our Lady
1st November – Religious holiday – All Saints Day
8th December – Religious holiday and the ancient mother’s day. We celebrate Our Lady of Conceição, whom it is said, she appeared to the 1st King of Portugal in 1146, helping him in his battles. She is the Our Lady of Portugal as well as Our Lady of Fátima.
25th December – Christmas
24th June – Holiday just for the city of Porto. We celebrate the saint of this city – St. John. One of the greatest street parties of Europe. It goes all night long till morning in almost every streets!
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Nani,
Is there no separation between church and state in Portugal? |
Sure there is Krismiss. The religious holidays are merely cultural, still kept by the civilian society.
In fact, our Constituion forbbids Church to interfere in the State Affairs. If that was allowed, I am pretty sure a Revolution would take place.
It is merely cultural. We're a laic country and as far as I know, at least Spain and France also have religious holidays.
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| Topic: what is he doing to me!!?
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| Subject: what is he doing to me!!? - Posted: 5/31/2005 3:32:33 PM
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Nessa,
On the page 3 of the general message board there is one topic started by Shattered called Buying The Lie. Read all posts!
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| Topic: International phone lines for abuse
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| Subject: International phone lines for abuse - Posted: 5/31/2005 4:09:34 PM
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Tomorrow night I will send both of you more international phone lines. :)
Thank you.

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| Topic: what is he doing to me!!?
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| Subject: what is he doing to me!!? - Posted: 5/31/2005 6:01:09 PM
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Shattered,
Let’s forget the religious side about your Jeff. Do you know a nice punishment to him? That God forgives me because you can call me a bitch, but Gaza Strip should be a nice place to send him and then ask their terrorists to start again an Intifada.
I am not Jewish but the very little I know from Judaism tells me this man is not a real Jewish. A real Jew respects others and has compassion.
Forgive me for this vent
Shalom! Let peace stay among us!
Sheema Israel.
Editing: We could send Jeff with Nathan and this ex-bf of Nessa. What a nice rock band they could do there! They could sing for Palestinian terrorists.
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| Topic: International phone lines for abuse
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| Subject: International phone lines for abuse - Posted: 6/1/2005 3:28:58 PM
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Some International abuse phone lines
PORTUGAL
Emergency hotline - 112
Victims of Domestic Violence – 800 202 148
Abused Children – 213 433 333
SOS Friendly Voice (Depression, Suicide) – 800 202 669
SOS Pregnant – 808 201 139
SOS Child – 217 931 617
APAV (Portuguese Association for Victims Help) – 707 200 077
Website: www.apav.pt or http://www.apav.pt/home_en.html (for English language) with very useful national and international links for all kinds of abuse.
ITALY
Emergency hotline:
113 Telefono Arcobaleno
19696 Telefono Azzurro
All sorts of complaints
FRANCE
General service(s)/telephone(s)/hotline(s) to receive all sorts of complaints.
01 53 71 47 40
Operating 24 hours (Police, Gendarmerie only)
Denouncers can maintain anonymity
Organization responsible for the services/telephones/hotlines:
Préfecture de Police; Association Enfance Maltraitée
EL SALVADOR
Emergency hotline:
"CEMUJER" "Centro de la Mujer" (Women’s Center)
Tel: 226-54 66
CZECH REPUBLIC
Emergency hotline:
0606 55555
"The Safety Line" of the "Our Child Foundation"
BRAZIL
Hotline for women (all sort of complaints)
180
Sexual Abuse - 0800 -999500 – Dial denúncia
1407 - SOS Children
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| Topic: ADD YOUR FAVORITE RECIPES UNDER
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| Subject: ADD YOUR FAVORITE RECIPES UNDER - Posted: 6/1/2005 3:45:22 PM
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LLM,
I can see Wire posted a recipe for absente.
A colleague gave me recipes for Absynth (the drink with alcohol), are you interested in some?
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| Topic: I met a new guy.
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| Subject: I met a new guy. - Posted: 6/2/2005 4:10:21 AM
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| minniemouse9 wrote: |
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I need to clarify something I wrote on my previous post because I can see it was misunderstood.
I am going to speak about pot smoke, the leaves of Cannabis based on some notes I wrote down during a seminar about drugs.
When I said pot smoking could be a gateway to heavy drugs, I didn’t mean each pot smoker would end in heavy drugs, like cocaine or heroine. In fact, this is a myth.
Anyway, it all depends on how often Cannabis is smoked, on the quantity of each dosis and also on the quality of the leaves.
Cannabis doesn’t provoke physical dependency. It just provokes psychological dependency. The effects come in a short period and generally are:
- the increase of cardiac frequency;
- red eyes;
- dilatation of the bronchis;
- cough;
- photophobia;
- reduction of whimper;
- frequent feelings of euphoria;
- sleepiness;
- great sensivity to external stimulations;
- alteration of immediate memory and capacity to carry through tasks demanding multiple and varied operations.
- Etc, etc…
Smoking Cannabis doesn’t always bring well-being sensations. Sometimes can bring symptons of anxiety, paranoid and panic attacks and after the initial euphoria, depressive symptons can appear.
It is also possible to identify some symptons on some consumers of Cannabis with time: great risk of lung cancer, diminishing of testosteron, apathy, tendency for isolation, absent minded, passivity.
The majority of Cannabis’ smokers don’t feel the need “to fall” on heavy drugs but there are individual and social facts involving each one of the smokers that can lead them to the use of heavy drugs.
So, we cannot say a weed smoker will be a heavy drug addict but on the other hand a gateway can be open to it. It all DEPENDS on each individual.
The only thing I know is that the great majority of drugs addicts started on Cannabis. We are talking about a drug accepted by society but we cannot say it is harmless.
Hope I was clear now. :) |
I have a question for you? In your studies did you find out why it can cause panic attacks. I smoked pot when i was 14 quit for 5 years started back smokeing hydro then when to the normal "dirt" weed. I no longer smoke it though cause everytime i would smoke the dirt weed my head and chest would burn, have a panic attack or something along those lines almost called 911 one time cause i thought my heart was going to explode. That’s why i ask if maybe you knew what was in it that would make a person feel that way. |
First of all I have to tell you that I am not an expert on drugs. The knowledge I have is based on short seminars and on courses of legal medicine/forensics but anyway according to what I know your panick attacks are exactly one of the effects associated with weed/pot.
Each person has a different reaction to the same substance. It seems to me you were suffering from intoxication. Perhaps you were smoking high dosis. The intoxication of Cannabis Sativa is not physical but psychological. The effects of the intoxication are panick attacks. It is described on the sharp effects from the intoxication of Cannabis.
If there is something you didn't understand or if you need more information about it, you can send me an e-mail because I work on a daily basis with people who have an high knowledge on that subject.
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| Topic: I met a new guy.
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| Subject: I met a new guy. - Posted: 6/2/2005 3:21:01 PM
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Yeah, but you don’t know what was the quality of the leaves used.
Each person may have a different reaction and you react with panick attacks. When you smoke weed, it seems you are more vulnerable to the sharp and strong effects. You have what is called Toxic Psychosis.
Some people don’t feel it because their bodies and minds get adapted to it. It’s due to the vulnerability of each one.
It’s the same about some substances and principal actives present on some medicines. Some people feel adversary effects when they take a substance and others don’t. For some an Aspiryn is not enough to stop an headache, others just need half!!
Editing: I forgot to say something. You said at least once you felt like your heart was racing. This is a sympton of anxiety, induced by the weed. Generally feelings of anxiety may lead to a panick attack. It's like a chain reaction.
Like I said above you're vulnerable to the weed and you really must avoid it. ;)
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| Topic: Random comments
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| Subject: Random comments - Posted: 6/2/2005 3:40:56 PM
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| Wire wrote: |
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Why is it that wine coolers are only for the feminine drinker? These things are awesome!
What would you do for a Klondike Bar? I’d probably buy one.
I’m out of Almond Joy... |
Well those who are from wine country producers know why wine coolers exist. :) and it has nothing to do with feminine/masculine ;)
Vinho verde, or "green wine," comes in white, rosé, and red varieties, of which the white is the best and most popular. It’s low in alcohol and has a slight effervescence, making it pleasantly tingly on the tongue and refreshing on hot days and it must be served fresh.
The bottles of this kind of wine, when they come to the tables, they come always with wine coolers, otherwise no wine lover or expert would drink it!
I live in a city famous in the whole world for its wine. It’s like an heresy reading it. Sorry Wire. :)
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| Topic: International phone lines for abuse
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| Subject: International phone lines for abuse - Posted: 6/3/2005 4:32:38 AM
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Shattered,
I found out two studies about Domestic Violence done with the support of the European Union. They are also written in English and I thought that maybe you are interested in reading them, because it can give you some ideas for your website entries.
Do you want me to send them to your e-mail?
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| Topic: Random comments
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| Subject: Random comments - Posted: 6/3/2005 11:15:39 AM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
| Wire wrote: |
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Why is it that wine coolers are only for the feminine drinker? These things are awesome!
What would you do for a Klondike Bar? I’d probably buy one.
I’m out of Almond Joy... |
Wellthose who are from wine country producers know why wine coolers exist.:) and it has nothing to do with feminine/masculine ;)
Vinho verde,or "green wine," comes in white, rosé, and red varieties, of which thewhite is the best and most popular. It’s low in alcohol and has aslight effervescence, making it pleasantly tingly on the tongue andrefreshing on hot days and it must be served fresh.
Thebottles of this kind of wine, when they come to the tables, they comealways with wine coolers, otherwise no wine lover or expert woulddrink it!
I live in a city famous in the whole world for its wine. It’s like an heresy reading it. Sorry Wire. :) |
Nani Do you have a good recipe for Sangria?
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Yes I have Chick :) I am going to post it on the Recipes section.
Editing: it’s already posted on the Recipes section. Hey, don’t drink too much because the last time I drank it, I really needed a couch to take a nap. :)
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| Topic: Advice needed please help
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| Subject: Advice needed please help - Posted: 6/3/2005 11:22:45 AM
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| Brooke4525 wrote: | | Just to let everyone know! iI never cheated on her! My ex girlfriends said that to start shit! If u ladies knew the bullshit she has done u would understand! this is a crumb compared to the bullshit she has done! And for the porno shit! That is a crock of shit! I dont stay up all night lookin at porno! i really do actually look up songs and down lload em! Brandy! before u go behind my back and call me a ignorant ass! think about it! i gave my life up for u! i never cheated or even thought about cheating on u! I ;love u to death, and i really dont fucking appreciate this bullshit!!!!! You are always my baby! Nothing will ever change that!!!! |
I never allow anyone to use my name or nick to write or post.
It is a violation of privacy and at the same time a lack of respect for the person involved.
This post shows you cannot respect her and you are everything Shattered said.
Downloading music? Nice excuse, isn't it?
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| Topic: International phone lines for abuse
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| Subject: International phone lines for abuse - Posted: 6/3/2005 2:39:15 PM
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Shattered,
I’ve just sent you the Studies. Hope they can provide something of interest to you.
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| Topic: How sexy is your first name?
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| Subject: How sexy is your first name? - Posted: 6/3/2005 2:59:59 PM
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| LoveLabyrinth wrote: | F : You are idealistic and romantic, putting your lover on a pedestal. You look for the very best mate you can find. You are a flirt, yet once committed, you are very loyal. You are sens uous, sexual, and privately passionate. Publicly, you can be showy, extravagant, and gallant. You are born romantic. Dramatic love scenes are your favourite fantasy pastime. You can be a very generous lover.
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Well, it is said my name has a Teutonic origin but if dramatic love scenes are my favourite fantasy, does it mean I will have to live a Greek Tragedy each relationship I have? :)
Ok, better off changing my name! :)
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| Topic: Girls I have a personal question...
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| Subject: Girls I have a personal question... - Posted: 6/3/2005 6:00:26 PM
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Are you on the pill? I don’t know anything for it. The only thing I know while taking the pill is that it is possible to eliminate one period. You just need to keep taking the pill, not stopping for the normal seven days. In any case, it shall be done just once! Am I right Chick?
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| Topic: Girls I have a personal question...
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| Subject: Girls I have a personal question... - Posted: 6/3/2005 6:38:06 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: | I don’t think this would help her right now but continuing to take your regular dose during the off days would probably work, but I wouldn’t recommend it.Besides messing up your whole next pack...hormones are such touchy little buggers it may throw you totally out of whack.
BTW Nani... you have mail.
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Yeah, I know it wasn't a good advice ;)
I'm going to check my mail box now! Thanks.
Did you see the recipe for Sangria?
Darla - I don't know any trick :(
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| Topic: So dirty, so used, so violated. But I caused it.
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| Subject: So dirty, so used, so violated. But I caused it. - Posted: 6/4/2005 12:55:27 PM
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| bunnyluvin wrote: | | I think sometimes I can be a complete pushover and sometimes I can be really stubborn. When it comes to hurting someone, I choose the way that won’t hurt them but somehow it always hurts them worse. |
Ok, Bunnyluvin
I think you give too much importance to banal things. If you want an opinion, I can say based on other posts, that you still have lots of contradictions. And I think you can be as well a real stubborn :)
It seems that your priority is having someone to date! Girl, don't look at it as a priority! You have a long way to go in your life! The way you are living now, can lead you into a depression and to a personality crisis.
Each person has a "for" and an "against". There is no perfect person in the world. You didn't like the kiss from this guy, ok, no need to feel guilty.
Lady gave you a nice advice and follow it, but there is something you still need to do: you need to find a hobby where you can feel happiness.
I hope next time, you'll find out someone who you really like and enjoy the company. You still need to give time to time and you have lots in front of you....
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| Topic: Another book thread
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| Subject: Another book thread - Posted: 6/4/2005 2:38:02 PM
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Chick,
This morning I went to downtown trying to buy that book but there isn't the translation yet to my language. I will wait then because it sounds good and interesting.
Meanwhile, I bought a book with the original title " The Kitchen Boy". In Portuguese the title is "The last days of the Romanov". The author is Robert Alexander.
It follows a story about a Russian cook working for the Imperial Russian Family. He went to the United States but he has a secret: he is a witness of the Romanov's killing.
I've started to read it this afternoon and it sounds very interesting.
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| Topic: Computers
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| Subject: Computers - Posted: 6/4/2005 2:40:22 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: | Lady Your post gave me a hankerin’ :-) for a laptop now. Being semi computer illiterate I haven’t branched out into laptop land.The sphincter patrol at work has cracked down on internet use now..so I can no longer access anything from work unless it’s health related. I’ll probably go with a Dell since we get a discount through work.
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That is why at work I use a proxy. I don't like the IT Department sniffing my Internet activity ;)
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| Topic: Nani
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| Subject: Nani - Posted: 6/5/2005 4:09:07 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
Well I’m home alone here this Saturday night but I was wondering.You seem to have picked up on the English language very well. I know that must be hard because we have so much slang.Do you have slang in your language?
My co-worker is from China..she was a doctor in China but never pursued her certification here in the states.When I was going thru my divorce I asked her "how do you say kiss my ass" in your language?She said well we don’t really have that. How do other languages express anger?
When you learn a new language do you actually learn how to read and write the language or is it all audible learning? I know you have English down pat.
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Chick,
Thank you first of all! I work hard to have some sense when I write! :)
You know, we have so much slang in our language that if I post all the slang here, be sure I will be banned from this message board. LOL!!!!
Do you want to know how do we say kiss my ass? Well, the translation is...lick my ass!!! Pardon!
All the languages that I’ve learned were taught the same way. A teacher in a classroom, making you read and write the language while correcting the pronunciation.
I guess I understand your co-worker when she says in China there isn’t a expression for kiss my ass. The Chinese alphabet is different. They don’t have a letter for a sound. They have symbol characters. They write from up to down based on symbology and not on a fonetic alphabet.
But I do know Chinese has a terrible slang! My sister worked in Macao, China, during the time this city was a Portuguese territory. She knows a little of Chinese and she says they are terrible, principaly when they are talking about Westerns. ;)
Well, raio que os partam (Damn them)!!! LOL
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| Topic: Nani
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| Subject: Nani - Posted: 6/5/2005 4:22:43 PM
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In fact, all languages have slang. French and Spanish have too much as well. I don’t know how to write or speak in Italian but I can understand the written language and maybe this is one of the funniest: BA BENNE! PIANO! PREGO!
Other thing that we can do with the Portuguese language is to transform the word sounds of other languages to words of ours. Maybe the funniest is with Greek and Russian.
Imagine this Greek name: TOUTAPOULOS. In Portuguese we can laugh and say TOU TA POLOS which is slang, (correct way is "estou-te a pô-los") meaning I am putting you a pair of horns!
Imagine this Russian name: Urina Pakova. It can be transformed to "urina para a cova, meaning "peeing to the grave"!!
Now, Tom Cruise. We joke to Tom das Cruzes, meaning Tom of the Crosses!
Well, so many examples!!!
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| Topic: Nani
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| Subject: Nani - Posted: 6/5/2005 4:50:34 PM
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| chick1110 wrote: |
| Thanks for explaining that Nani..it was very interesting. |
You’re welcome!!
I am very happy today because I am going to be off next week!
Editing: do you like music from other countries? Maybe I can send you some musics. Do you have speakers on your computer?
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| Topic: "I am the Worlds biggest
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| Subject: "I am the Worlds biggest - Posted: 6/5/2005 6:48:45 PM
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Try to stay calm during this time because you're going to need to have your head very fresh.
It seems to me there's nothing you can do to save your marriage, unless you want so, but you need to reflect if it will worth the while. You said he is an anti social and he probably is. At least he is a pathological liar and don't allow him to fool you once more.
Other think I want to tell you is that maybe he is spending all his money with that Veronica. He asked you to give him all the money you both saved, to buy tools to work on weekends? I believe he wants the money to spend with her. Maybe at her request. I am afraid it was a trick (I hope I am wrong).
Do you have the chance to prove you gave him all the money you saved? I don't know if it can help you in the future but try to fight legally to have your money back.
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| Topic: Tom Cruise is bashing Brooke Shields
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| Subject: Tom Cruise is bashing Brooke Shields - Posted: 6/5/2005 7:38:58 PM
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What the hell want Tom Cruise from Silvio Berlusconni? Messing with other Governments? I think Italy's problems are for the Italians, not for Tom Cruise.
Unfortunatelly I think Berlusconni is even worse than Tom Cruise.
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| Topic: finally had enough
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| Subject: finally had enough - Posted: 6/5/2005 7:50:07 PM
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Michelle,
I am pretty sure you deserve too much better for you. You know, I don’t like the idea of sending away a girl who has a child from your supposed boyfriend. It’s not too ethic but maybe I don’t know your story to make any judgement of value.
What about the girl? What is she guilty of?
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| Topic: Nani
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| Subject: Nani - Posted: 6/6/2005 4:50:21 AM
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| bunnyluvin wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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In fact, all languages have slang.
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The United States’ language is a slang. |
What about saying "The English spoken in the United States is a slang"? :)
I keep on saying all languages have slang. ;)
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| Topic: the sad and horrible truth
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| Subject: the sad and horrible truth - Posted: 6/6/2005 4:54:45 AM
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| shattered4good wrote: | for all of you who think I am so smart.....
just to make it clear.....
I DON’T KNOW DICK!!! 
(guess 8 years of no sex has taken its horrible toll at last) |
Don't worry, I don't know Dick as well...
You're not alone!!! .gif)
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| Topic: An absolute MUST READ article
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| Subject: An absolute MUST READ article - Posted: 6/6/2005 8:05:26 AM
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No doubt Shattered, I read it quickly and it is very good.
By the way, did you receive the reports I sent you? I think the 1st called the Alcipe Project, has some chapters with interest.
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| Topic: Do I contact other woman?
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| Subject: Do I contact other woman? - Posted: 6/6/2005 4:57:38 PM
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Coreysix,
Why don’t you use your imagination to call those phone numbers listed on your husband cell phone? They don’t know your voice, do they? Use your imagination and start a conversation. Don’t give any clue on your real intentions ;)
Fake a marketing phone call! Use whatever comes to your mind to know who they are.
Use an anonymous number and be clever to keep the conversation. Try to know the name and if possible the address.
This can give you a clue. You need to be smart and act like a marketing professional, don’t forget.
If you can get this information, you will have an open road to know the rest.
Anyway, it sounds your husband cheats on you!
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| Topic: Im Confused...
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| Subject: Im Confused... - Posted: 6/6/2005 5:13:16 PM
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| lej1984 wrote: |
| I need some advice. I was dating this guy on and off for two years and we had a baby. We called it off for a year and both of us dated other people. Now we’re back together and we were doing better than ever before. We had so many problems in the past, it was really hard to start fresh. Anyway, we did, but he’s really weird about certain things. He gets really crazy when I joke about him not needing to go out with a group of people if there’s chicks without me and he freaks out. Is this a sign that something’s going on, or does he just need space with friends? I just feel like we don’t get to spend that much time together, so I figure when we have the chance, he’d want to as much as possible. |
If you know he gets crazy when you joke with him, I just can say, don’t joke.
If he is with you now, why do you need to joke about him. You’re still very young ;)
Learn on how to conquer his affection without teasing him.
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| Topic: Nani
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| Subject: Nani - Posted: 6/7/2005 7:18:58 AM
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| bunnyluvin wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
| bunnyluvin wrote: |
| Nani1963 wrote: |
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In fact, all languages have slang.
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The United States’ language is a slang. |
What about saying "The English spoken in the United States is a slang"? :)
I keep on saying all languages have slang. ;) |
But can you realy call what we speak english? Yes it is derivedfrom the language in England but it is also derived from so many otherlanguages and so many people slur it that to me it has just become alanguage all tangled up... and I rather like it that way, thoughcomplicated as it is. |
What you speak is English! No doubt about it. The English spoken in the United States just suffered a mutation like for instance the Portuguese of Brazil and Africa and the Spanish of Central and South America.
English is the result of a fusion of Old English and Norman-French, as a result of the Norman Conquest in England. It is also called Middle English and it is the immediate ancestor of Modern English.
Modern English suffers mutations according to regions and cultures. Each living language in the world has the same problem. As time goes by, we can find new words and also new forms of slang in a language as a fusion with different languages and also by the introduction of new technologies. When this happens we have to deal with new words. That’s what happened in the US.
Now can you please tell me what is a croissandwich? I know the French word "Croissant" and not "croissand" for pastry. What is that? Yeah I think maybe France was insulted. :)
Editing: I googled the word "croissandwich" and I found out is a sandwich in a croissant! What a nice shit it must be :) Sandwich is a sandwich, croissant is a croissant. Bacon and eggs or tuna on a croissant? Help!!!!!
It must be the same, like I saw once in a tourist resort in the south of Portugal! I saw a couple of tourists putting ketchup on grilled sardines!!! Oh God, even the waiter was astonished :)
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| Topic: About girlfriends
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| Subject: About girlfriends - Posted: 6/7/2005 8:05:16 AM
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| chick1110 wrote: | Don’t get me wrong I love my girlfriends to death...but I have this one g/f who decided (after her husband of 25 years dumped her for a 26 y/o..he was 49 at the time) that she was going after a man with money.Well she got her man with money...she no longer works... he bought her a mercedes and she spends her time traveling.
When she’s in town she calls me up to get together...but she has totally changed.I told her I was looking at a house and she said ewww why do you want to move there? I just wanted to say HEY have you forgotten where you came from(the world of hard working middle class folks) She talks of her Tiffany cut diamond ring and her prada shoes everything is upper class brand related now.
And the sad thing is she married this guy just for his money. I just can’t fathom that and her comments like the one above and others on my choice of material things..really hurts my feelings..but on the other hand she would be there if I needed her..Why does money change people?
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Chick,
I understand very well what you feel. I also know some women who got married with rich guys just for the fun of having fancy jewels, shoes, clothes, etc....
I believe this is a reaction to some incapacity those women have. Some think it's very good to have money without having the worries of a job on a daily basis. Most of these women are vain and frivolous. It is impossible to have a smart conversation with the majority of them. Some may not know where diamonds come from. You really have a hard time explaining them lots of people in Angola work in the diamond mines just for the daily meal.
There is also another class who buy Prada shoes, for instance, just for the pleasure of buying them (in my case, I don't like Ruiz de la Prada fashion).
It's their job Chick! They have turned into new "bourgeois" or new riches. It's the result of western consume societies. The day is passed between the hairdresser's, high fashion shops and the discussion of the new fashion of Yves Saint Laurent, Christian Dior, etc.
Ask them something about what is happening in the world. You'd be surprised on how they know nothing ;)
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| Topic: Do I contact other woman?
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| Subject: Do I contact other woman? - Posted: 6/7/2005 9:14:33 AM
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Some men cannot be directly confronted because they will act like yours did.
I've read your two last posts and it is clear now what are his intentions. He is not mature enough to see he has children to feed and to care. Perhaps he is surrounded by bad male companies pushing him to those women.
You cannot be his mother for the rest of your life. If he doesn't care about you and the children, to the point he is not coming home to sleep, I would change the locks and send his belongings to the bike club with this note " Bye bye and from now on, if you want to talk to me, please address to my lawyer". See you in court!
Well, that is what I would do if I were in your shoes.
Good luck!
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| Topic: Instincts or Paranoia?
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| Subject: Instincts or Paranoia? - Posted: 6/7/2005 10:34:30 AM
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My bet is: he is talking to women over the internet and he is trying to meet them. The women probably are from the areas he says he needs to travel.
Generally, my advice goes to not confronting him, before you can gather all the evidence. This is the common mistake women do.
There is a section on this site, called Catch a Cheater. If you can find out clear evidences he is cheating on you, then, you can confront him, never before.
Editing: he compares you to his mum, when you complain about him. Watch out! Red Flag!
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| Topic: Instincts or Paranoia?
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| Subject: Instincts or Paranoia? - Posted: 6/7/2005 11:27:25 AM
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| october wrote: | Nani: Yeah, the comparisons are flagged. Good advice regarding collectingevidence. However, he doesn’t have internet access at work, and nevergets on the computer at home anymore.
LoveLabrinth: That’s a good idea. I’ll try that.
Thank you both for your insight.
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You're welcome!
If he has no internet access (are you sure?) then, he has someone under his eyes!
Good luck
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| Topic: This sucks
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| Subject: This sucks - Posted: 6/7/2005 4:16:24 PM
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Sure, you're more than right to install a keylogger and start snooping... I'd do the same if I were in your shoes!
Good luck
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| Topic: Restricted caller ID for cell phones
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| Subject: Restricted caller ID for cell phones - Posted: 6/8/2005 9:32:27 AM
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| darlingtwo wrote: |
I need help. I think my husband is cheating on me. He gets lots ofphone calls and claims its wrong numbers. I dont buy that. I saw thathe wrote someone on yahoo messanger and asked them if they knew how torestrict their calls. I want to know more about this. Is there a waythat you can make a phone call on your cell phone and have your phonenumber show up as "Restricted" on the caller Id of the other personsphone? Help! Debbie
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I am answering based on cell phones from my country and I believe it’s the same all over the world.
Yes, it is possible. Your number can show up as restrict or anonymous if you want so.
You just need to define it on the menu settings! Here, every boy and girl with a cell phone knows how to do it.
What is the cell phone? If it is an Alcatel or a Nokia I can post here how to do it.
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| Topic: Restricted caller ID for cell phones
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| Subject: Restricted caller ID for cell phones - Posted: 6/8/2005 9:42:12 AM
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I can guess your cell phones are different from the cell phones in Europe. We can restrict or not our number through the Menu Settings. We don’t need to dial anything before the number. I am surprised because I think the cell phones come from the same factories!
I also can reject phone calls from pre-defined numbers.
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| Topic: Restricted caller ID for cell phones
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| Subject: Restricted caller ID for cell phones - Posted: 6/8/2005 9:49:46 AM
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| darlingtwo wrote: | Thanks! The phone is Kyocera SE44PTT... Its alltel phone service, notsure if that helps at all . I did read the catch a cheator section,thanks. He fits most of the suspected criteria. Now I just want tocatch his ass. But needed to know how to set the phone up to look likeit was restricted. Deb
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Ok, I cannot help on Kiocera. I know how to define on an Alcatel and in a Nokia.
Go to the kiocera site and try to search if there is some help for your cell phone menu.
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| Topic: One Kid, a Tsunami, Nineteen days at sea and a dream...
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| Subject: One Kid, a Tsunami, Nineteen days at sea and a dream... - Posted: 6/8/2005 2:08:14 PM
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This is a story of an eight-year old kid that touched my heart.
"LISBON, June 3 (Reuters) - An 8-year-old survivor of Asia’s devastating tsunami will realise a dream when he walks with his heroes the Portuguese national soccer team onto the pitch at a World Cup qualifying game.
Martunis, an Indonesian third-grader, was found by a British TV crew after the December 2004 disaster wandering delirious and emaciated and dressed in Portugal’s red-and-green team jersey.

Dehydrated and covered in mosquito bites, Martunis had apparently kept himself alive for almost three weeks (19 days) by eating berries and dried noodles and drinking water from puddles.
Amid an outpouring of support, the Portuguese Soccer Federation flew Martunis from Indonesia to be the guest of honour at Saturday’s World Cup qualifier with Slovakia in Lisbon.
The federation also is giving his fisherman father, Sarbini, 40,000 euros. His wife and four other children went missing after the tsunami, which killed more than 200,000 people across Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean.
"We consider this to be help, it’s not a great effort. It’s aid that’s within the possible," a federation spokesman said on Friday.
Martunis will walk onto the pitch with the team, including his idols Luis Figo, the 2001 World Player of the Year, and Manchester United star Cristiano Ronaldo.
Since arriving this week from Indonesia’s Banda Aceh province with his father and a psychiatrist, Martunis has toured Lisbon but has largely been kept away from the media.
He met the national team on Thursday and posed solemnly for a group photo, standing next to Figo and goalkeeper Quim. Cristiano Ronaldo also gave the wide-eyed boy a team jersey. |