First off to some it is ok...to others it is not. It depends on what makes you feel good. If it makes you feel uncomfortable then explain it to him and if he cares he'll understand and not to try to do it again. I myself don't really care for it...but once in a great while I'll let my husband do it. I asked if what it was and why men liked to do it...He said it's different...due to usually a no no.

But let me warn you of this...men don't realize this. The inner lining of a women's vaginal canal is very thin...what can happen during anal sex is that lining can be punctured..being so thin usually cannot be repaired and will cause alot of problems.

So what do you do if you choose to let your man do this?

Before you let him do it explain to him that he needs to be gentle and go slow. That if it starts to hurt then please stop. Now anal eaz can be bought at sex toy stores to make it not hurt. Honestly when it numbs ya it relaxes ya to the place the guy doesn't enjoy it as much and doesn't want to do it again*lol*

Now a very important thing! Never have vaginal sex after having anal unless he has washed up thoroughly! Due to it can cause infections...and the annoying bacterial infection. Abother thing is maybe let him use a lubed condom to keep both of you safe.

Now as I said once a yr maybe I'll be nice and let my husband do this...and luckily he doesn't beg for it.

So do what you feel is comfortable for you..I've heard some women actually enjoy it. So be safe..go to only the extreme that makes you feel comfortable.

Alot of young guys think when their having sex that their doing it right. That's why they say alot of older men are better lovers...also they've had a caring women teach them how to please.

Now if this is a long term relationship you have had...have a talk with him. Not the honey you don't please me don't cum so quick. Just know if he's coming that quickly at 27 then girl you feel damn good to him. So take matters in your own hands. One thing you can do is take his hands when playing with your nipples..and show him where to touch you where you want to be touched. Make a game of it...maybe get some pudding and tell him he has to lick where the pudding is...and maybe oil for where he has to touch. When he sees how much it is exciting you he's going to want to go in for the kill. Just playfull hint that you want more from him and can you please play a lil more. If he gets you excited from the touching etc he'll be in for a shock when you cum with him . You'll get the man addicted for sure. On the other matter email me and I'll explain some things you can do while going down on him. aschalz@yahoo.com

She loved him like he was

The last man on Earth

Gave him everything she ever had

He'd break her spirit down

Then come lovin' up on her

Give a little, then take it back

She'd tell him about her dreams

He'd just shoot 'em down

Lord he loved to make her cry

You're crazy for believin'

You'll ever leave the ground

He said, Only angels know how to fly

And with a broken wing

She still sings

She keeps an eye on the sky

With a broken wing

She carries her dreams

Man you ought to see her fly

One Sunday morning

She didn't go to church

He wondered why she didn't leave

He went up to the bedroom

Found a note by the window

With the curtains blowin' in the breeze

And with a broken wing

She still sings

She keeps an eye on the sky

With a broken wing

She carries her dreams

Man you ought to see her fly

With a broken wing

She carries her dreams

Man you ought to see her fly

Martina McBride

Happy Mother's Day Hotmommie and to all my friends I have here....so while I eat my breakfast of toast with butter,peanut butter and suger..I want to share this poem I found with ya'll....

Harley

YOUR MOTHER IS ALWAYS WITH YOU...

Your mother is always with you...

She's the whisper of the leaves
as you walk down the street.

She's the smell of bleach
in your freshly laundered socks.

She's the cool hand on your brow
when you're not well.

Your mother lives inside your laughter.
She's crystallized in every tear drop.

She's the place you came from,
your first home...
She's the map you follow
with every step that you take.

She's your first love
and your first heart break...
and nothing on earth can separate you.

Not time, Not space...
Not even death...
will ever separate you
from your mother...

You carry her inside of you...

~Author Unknown~

I was playing euchre online and looked at my p's quote under her name and laughed but loved it. Had to share it with ya!

Harley

Man might be head of the house..but woman is the neck and she can always change the head.

Actually hon...this day of age that statistic is changed. More fathers are getting the right to be a full time dad. I feel this is right if the father shows he's responsible. What's funny is you starting this thread today...I just got back from the Friend of the Court filing for child support. Yes I got the kids when I got divorced in 96..One because I was always the full time parent and my husband made the money. His choice I keep the kids with me. Now he is 46 yrs old...lives off his mom and dad...works mininum wage..he lost his good job on purpose not wanting to pay child support. He also refuses to get a home because that would mean making more money. I haven't received child support since 97. It's tough...but I have always been their for my kids and yes I have no problem working. But whether it's the mom or dad who has custody they both conceived the child. The custodial parent always should be able to expect some help financially from the other parent.

oh and I haven;t forgotten u on the wine bit..been busy as hell trying to find a house to buy...but will get the info for ya.

Harley

By the way Wire...my son can relate to you on the divorce issue. In his growing up he has seen abuse etc..Sad things didn't change earlier but as you have mentioned it's been 13 yrs this has all been going on. Too bad the government wasn't making the changes then that they are now...sadly some things take time.

I grew up being adopted and beaten by a minister's life all my life...the one thing I learned and made a commitment to is that I would not be that kind of parent. I could make a change and not continue the chain of abuse. Thank goodness I have stuck to that and don't abuse my kids and very close to them. Sorry that your growing up yrs has been what it is...learn from it...figure out how to change it and what to do in life to not follow that pattern.

Thanks LMM..I appreciate the compliment and means more than you'd know.

Marilyn...NP...just know no matter what it's not the amount of posts...it's the quality in the posts that matter.

Hell I don't know being a Lurker could be fun...ya know like the one person who wishes they could be the mouse in the room *lol* But honestly like LMM said...if any problems let her know and I know from experience she's prompt at fixing the problem

I think I am having a mid life crisis here or something...almost 38 and doing drastic things..I think my poor husband is going to have a coronary soonMy hair has been the same style since I was in H.S..Ya know the 80's style that looked fluffy but like a football helmet...Well I told him today I was going to get it cut some...get it some*lol* well after getting 8 inches cut off...all the perm gone and highlighted...well he hasn't seen the highlighting yet but freaked at the short hair. It's straight and I have never worn it straight and was like the perm queen.

Then we he married me 5 yrs ago I was heavyset and heavier now. So he's like uhhhhhhh when he saw in the mail the brochure for bariatric surgery if I can convince my insurance and doc...then of course will need a boob lift and tummy tuck

I guess I feel the need for a total makeover before 40 when I can still feel sexy(hehe) so ya think I am having a mid life crisis or what???

Am I the only one to notice that NewBastard hasn't been here since March 6th? I think I'll email him to make sure he's ok...I don't know about you but I miss him here...and where did the other guys go??

Harley

I probally shouldn't say this but going to anyhow lol

my favorite site with pics of men...now the pics are tasteful but full nudity. www.allmalereview.com

Got it! Signing the papers on July 15th and moving in August 1st.....also surprised my husband with a new daughter who is 16 yrs old and is now a member here. She uses the handle Hunkgurl. She's a very welcomed member to our family..we all love having her in our home.

I went to see my doc and my attutude of change scared her and she upped my antidepressant! I've been going to a self esteem class with the church here and they explained that you can be depressed but hide it from the rest of the world. We'll see what happens. But doc also agree'd on the mid-life crisis bit.

Thanks ya'll...I went to the class at the church and you know what they said...That I was depressed and scared to let it show. OMG!

Going beyond nuts right now....I took in a 18 yr old boy last oct...think of him as a son. Right now so pissed at him I punched the wall earlier. He's going to get it later and but good. I introduced him to my neighbors daughter a couple weeks ago....they went out. Then he shows up with monica who is now my daughter dating him. Turns out that on the 21st of last month he went out with Monica for the first time and then out with Krysti my neighbor the next nite. Now when I introduced Krysti to Adrian I had no clue about Monica.

So now the two thanks to me know about each other ..Maybe I was wrong to introduce them but dammit this are really nice girls and don't need to be played. He was telling both he loved them, had slept with each of them etc. I am so pissed!! So Krysti's family is now mad at me also for introducing Krysti to Adrian and she's not allowed to talk to me anymore. Monica asked Adrian and of course he denies it all and she's going along with it. So finally exploded on Monica telling her to get this shit straight or their both out. I will not have chaos in my life. So she's had the ass chewing and when Adrian gets home he is next. Getting my life calm, new home etc and now this. I will not put up with it. As I told Monica that Adrian is not showing her respect and he's not to me either due to bringing this bullshit into my home.

I am so fit to be tied right now. See when I sign the papers for Monica as my daughter the state said they'd help support her. Adrian had the balls to tell her he expected half of the check. OMG!!! Fuck NO! I mean what is up with these young men these days that feel they have to be a player? If I was young again there would be alot of young men that would lose their nuts. So now my neighbors are pissed at me....my husband is pissed at me for this shit happening...and I will be the one to end it! I'll update ya later.

actually Wire...he's kinda like my husband. I have found out over the yrs that to my husband me just being in the room is to him spending time with me. Sex is and isn't a issue here. All guys are fascinated with sex....and in their hearts truly don't see anything wrong with searching the internet sites. To them it isn't cheating on their other half. The woman on the other hand finds it either insulting, disrespectful to them and taking time away from them. To me if the man goes as far as cyber sex or masturbating to the pics then that is cheating on his other half. Due to the fact in his mind he is having sex with the woman in the pic etc. I explained this to my husband and told him how it hurt me.

This young man needs to be told but not in a accusing way. When the man feels he's being attacked on what he's doing he tends to do it more. He honestly might feel he isn't doing anything wrong. Might have to go as far as saying it's either the women on the net or me and I am reality. If he sees it truly bothers you and really cares for you it'll wake him up. Maybe find porn sites for couples...they have them where you can look at them together. I even went as far as looking at women on the sites and sending the pics to my husband and he was like what the hell are u looking at other women for??? Got his attention too lol

Til LMM gets the joke section up had to post this one

WHY DOGS ARE BETTER THAN MEN

Dogs do not have problems expressing affection in public.
Dogs miss you when you're gone.
Dogs feel guilt when they've done something wrong.
Dogs don't criticize your friends.
Dogs admit when they're jealous.
Dogs are very direct about wanting to go out.
Dogs do not play games with you--except Frisbee (and they never laugh at how you throw).
Dogs don't feel threatened by your intelligence.
You can train a dog.
Dogs are easy to buy for.
You are never suspicious of your dog's dreams.
The worst social disease you can get from dogs is fleas.
(OK. The *really* worst disease you can get from them is rabies, but there's a vaccine for it, and you get to kill the one that gives it to you.)
Dogs understand what no means.
Dogs understand if some of their friends cannot come inside.
Middle-aged dogs don't feel the need to abandon you for a younger owner.
Dogs admit it when they're lost.
Dogs aren't threatened if you earn more than they do.
Dogs mean it when they kiss you.

HOW DOGS AND MEN ARE ALIKE

Both take up too much space on the bed.
Both have irrational fears about vacuum cleaning.
Both are threatened by their own kind.
Both mark their territory.
Both are bad at asking you questions.
Both have an inordinate fascination with women's crotches.
Neither does any dishes.
Both pass gas shamelessly.
Neither of them notice when you get your hair cut.
Both like dominance games.
Both are suspicious of the postman.
Neither knows how to talk on the telephone.
Neither understands what you see in cats.

HOW MEN ARE BETTER THAN DOGS

Men only have two feet that track in mud.
Men can buy you presents.
Men don't have to play with every man they see when you take them around the block.
Men are a little bit more subtle.
Dogs have dog breath all the time.
Men don't shed as much, and if they do, they hide it.
And the number one reason dogs fall short...
It's fun to dry off a wet man !!!!!!!! (If you're a woman that is !!!)

MEN ARE LIKE...
Submitted by SueC

Men are like ... newborn babies
They're cute at first, but you get tired of picking up their crap.
Men are like ... coffee
The best ones are rich, hot, and can keep you up all night.
Men are like ... computers.
Hard to figure out and never enough memory.
Men are like ... coolers.
Load them with beer and you can take them anywhere.
Men are like ... chocolate bars.
Sweet, smooth and they usually head right for your hips.
Men are like ... power tools
They make a lot of noise, but it's hard to get them to work.
Men are like ... remote controls
Simple. Easy to use. And usually lying around a TV.
Men are like ... shag carpets.
Soft, fuzzy and extremely easy to walk on.
Men are like ... vacuum cleaners
They're not much fun, but at least you get to push them around.
Men are like ... road kill
They usually just lie around until they start to smell.
Men are like ... soap operas
They're fun to watch, but don't believe everything you hear.
Men are like ... pillows
Eventually, even the best ones get soft and lumpy.
Men are like ... old car tires
Balding, full of hot air, and it never hurts to have a spare.
Men are like ... plastic wrap
Cheap. Clingy. and very easy to see through.
Men are like ... department stores
Their clothes should always be half off.
Men are like ... horoscopes.
They always tell you what to do and are usually wrong.
Men are like ... plungers.
They spend most of their lives in a hardware store or the bathroom.

No I am not Pregnant but this is too cute not to share...Sure alot of us can laugh and say"Been there, done that" or most men have seen it happen*lol*

Yes, parenthood changes everything. But parenthood
also changes with each baby. Here, some of the ways
having a second and third child differs from having your
first:

Your Clothes
-1st baby: You begin wearing maternity clothes as soon as your OB/GYN
confirms
your pregnancy.
-2nd baby: You wear your regular clothes for as long as possible.
-3rd baby: Your maternity clothes ARE your regular clothes.

The Baby's Name
-1st baby: You pore over baby-name books and practice
pronouncing and writing combinations of all your favorites.
-2nd baby: Someone has to name his or her kid after your
great-aunt Mavis, right? It might as well be you.
-3rd baby: You open a name book, close your eyes, and
see where your finger points.

Preparing for the Birth
-1st baby: You practice your breathing religiously.
-2nd baby: You don't bother practicing because you
remember that last time, breathing didn't do a thing.
-3rd baby: You ask for an epidural in your 8th month.

The Layette
-1st baby: You pre-wash your newborn's clothes, color-
coordinate them, and fold them neatly in the baby's
little bureau.
-2nd baby: You check to make sure that the clothes are
clean and discard only the ones with the darkest stains.
-3rd baby: Boys can wear pink, can't they?

Worries
-1st baby: At the first sign of distress--a whimper, a frown--you pick up
the
baby.
-2nd baby: You pick the baby up when her wails threaten to wake your
firstborn.
-3rd baby: You teach your 3-year-old how to rewind the mechanical swing.

Activities
-1st baby: You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics, Baby Swing, and Baby
Story
Hour.
-2nd baby: You take your infant to Baby Gymnastics.
-3rd baby: You take your infant to the supermarket and
the dry cleaner.

Going Out
-1st baby: The first time you leave your baby with a sitter, you call home 5
times.
-2nd baby: Just before you walk out the door, you
remember to leave a number where you can be reached.
-3rd baby: You leave instructions for the sitter to call only if she sees
blood.

At Home
-1st baby: You spend a good bit of every day just gazing at the baby.
-2nd baby: You spend a bit of every day watching to be sure
your older child isn't squeezing, poking, or hitting the baby.
-3rd baby: You spend a little bit of every day hiding from the
children.

If women ruled the world ...

• Women with cold hands would give men prostate exams.
• PMS would be a legitimate defense in court.
• Men would get reputations for sleeping around.
• Singles bars would have metal detectors to weed out men hiding wedding rings in their pocket.
• A man would no longer be considered a "good catch" simply because he is breathing.
• Fewer women would be dieting because their ideal weight standard would increase by 30 pounds.
• Shopping would be considered an aerobic activity.
• "Ms." Magazine would have an annual swimsuit issue featuring scantily clad male models.
• Men would not be allowed to eat gas-producing foods within two hours of bedtime.
• Men would be secretaries for female bosses, working twice as hard for none of the credit.
• Little girls would read "Snow White and the Seven Hunks".
• Men would bring drinks, chips and dip to women watching soap operas.
• Men would HAVE to get Playboy for the articles because there would be no pictures.
• Men would learn phrases like: "I'm sorry", "I love you", "You're beautiful" and "Of course you don't look fat in that outfit".
• Men would be judged entirely by their looks, women by their accomplishments.
• Men would sit around and wonder what WE are thinking.
• Men would pay as much attention to their woman as to their car.
• All toilet seats would be nailed down.
• Men would work on relationships as much as they work on their careers.
• TV news segments on sports would never run longer than 1 minute.
• All men would be forced to spend one month in a PMS simulator.
• During mid-life crisis, men would get hot-flashes and women would date 19 year olds.
• Overweight men would have their weight brought to their attention constantly.
• After a baby is born, men would take a six-week paternity leave to wait on their wives hand and foot. For basic training, soldiers would have to take care of a two-year old for six weeks.

I really like that..especially tonight after watching Ronald Reagan's funerals....

Harley

Ok not going to tell you to kick him to the curb...but not going to tell you to keep him either. Can this marriage be saved? One thing I would do in your situation is this: Go to marriage counseling...but if he is living elsewhere right now leave it that way. Work on your marriage and tell him he needs to win you back. Make a date to go out...sit down and plan it out when and where or have him surprise you. Need the foreplanning due to needing a babysitter. Also while living apart he needs to keep financially supporting you and the kids. Find yourself..this is the time to do so. Find out if you truly want him back..if you think you could ever trust him again. Also make a nite once a week where he comes and takes care of the kids where you can go out and gets some quality time for yourself. If you choose to take him back set some rules in the relationship. One if he ever cheats again...you're done...there will be no second chances. Make your terms and see if he is willing to abide by them.

Now he says you're the perfect wife....think about that some. Every woman wants to be the perfect wife and mommy..and the man appreciates it. But he wants a lil non perfect too...one thing I have always believed in is be mom and wife but in the bedroom be the mistress. He needs to keep your attention..but you need to keep his also. If he doesn't know what to expect and makes him wonder then you'll keep his attention. Ask him what this other woman did for him that you couldn't fullfill..or he feels you didn't. Let him know where he doesn't fullfil you too.

Theres going to be alot of hurt in the future and if you two can get through all this then you should make it. It will be a rough road and will test you.

Just know we're here to help in anyway we can.

Harley

LMM..email me..let me know the IP# if you can on who the spammers are...

Harley

Ok Ladies came upon this article by accident. Thought it pretty good to share..

Harley

Why Are Men Obsessed With Porn?

by Dr. Dennis W. Neder

Hi,

I need to understand why some men have are overly obsessed with porn. Is it that he is imagining he is having sex with them?

Please tell me it like it is!

Thank you.

Hello!

Wouldn't it be nice if there were a one-sentence answer to that question? The fact is it is rather more complicated. However, let me try to help you understand.

To understand this, you have to know one important key about men: men are NOT monogamous by nature. This isn't my fact by the way; it was here when I arrived! It is actually one of the reasons why humans have been so successful a species!

You see, in any animal species where there are few offspring born, and the infant mortality rate is high (as it is with gerbils, whales, dogs, giraffes and humans), the males are "wired" to seek multiple females for mating. This is how they help to insure that their genes get passed on to the next generation.

Interestingly, females are programmed to "pair bond" - that is, to try to create and sustain a monogamous relationship! By having a second adult around to protect, gather food, and raise their young, this is how females help to insure that THEIR genes get passed along as well!

In actuality pair bonding is a relatively new thing to humans - we've only been doing it for 5,000 years! Since we've been on this planet, (6 million years), we've been doing it "nature's way" for 99.92% of the time we've been here!

So, what does this have to do with porn? You see, men (males) are compelled to try to mate with as many women (females) as possible. However, they want to try to meet the expectations of society by staying in committed, monogamous relationships too. Thus, porn becomes a safe outlet for men's natural instincts. By viewing porn, they satisfy their programming while maintaining their commitments to their women.

You shouldn't be threatened by your man viewing porn any more than he should be threatened by you reading romance novels! In fact, it's his way of dealing with his natural programming; just as expecting him to be monogamous and committed to you is yours.

Let's talk about the monogamy part, as it is important to your implied question. As I mentioned, men are not monogamous by nature. BUT - we can CHOOSE to be. So, don't try to force your man to be monogamous - you're just going against nature, and his natural programming, and you know what happens when you try to fight nature - nature wins! Instead, simply be the woman for whom he chooses to be monogamous!

Best regards...

Cool...I see LMM added the chat...I was out of town..working at a air show. Came home sunburned to Hell!!

I'll keep checking the chat room and hopefully some of you will be there. and Wire chat away...you're one of the family here :)

Just chatted with her in chat....she emailed LMM and I'm sure LMM will reply. Also told her to let me know and I'd try getting ahold of LMM also.

oh and Wire..stay by your comp dude...tried saying Hi to ya a bunch of times

Get Him Out of There!!!

Trust me from experience him just being there and the hurt in you will fuck with you really bad. You owe him nothing. Hon did he consider you when he fucked around on you??? NO. So why the hell are you taking his needs into consideration. All it's going to do is fuck with your emotionally. If you filed for divorce your lawyer will help you and throw him out...trust me my lawyer ordered my ex husband out of the house and told him to stay out! Get single...relearn yourself and what you really want in your life and put yourself and emotions first. It's real easy to jump in another relationship trust me on this. I learned from my mistakes and don't want to see anyone else go through it. Even if you two had separate bedrooms it would still mess with you. Don't mean to be harsh but hon lost 5 months of my life to watching the love of my life who cheated stay.,..I finally put his shit on the porch and said go to a hotel. Hardest thing I ever did. But he never considered me when he brought home a infection cheating on me.

You can make it...and when you have it to yourself might find you love it and love when you learn yourself all over again.

Hugs,....Harley

Well hon..first off call legal aid..if you need help with finding the # let me know...after that go apply for state assistance and let them know your situation. Also kick his lazy ass out. Now for food call the local food bank. They'll hook ya up and have contacts for getting u and the kids some more clothes. Food stamps with state assistance can be immedient. But they won't help you if he's there and you're not showing a effort. They'll help with finding a job, they'll pay for babysitting etc. Some will even help you get a car. You can make it. I left my ex husband with no job, no car and lost my home in the divorce. Literally had a nervous breakdown where it sounds like your heading. My kids were 3 and 4 1/2 when I left the marriage, I was 28 yrs old. You'd be surprised how well you'll breathe when you get him out of your home. Just so you know at 28 it was the first time in my life being on my own. Got married right out of high school. So if I can do it...and alot of strong women out there can...so can you. The experience will make you stronger and you'll be surprised how strong.

Harley

If you honest to God believe that man will ever leave his wife for you..you need drugs then. When I was young and dumb I got involved with this guy....we had a blast together..rode the Harley etc....Then one day out of the blue he told me he was getting married. Marrying to help out the wife of a friend who had just got killed and she needed his health insurance etc. Yea I kept it up and played the game...he would come over etc. Well then I met her and yea we're still friends and I even get along with her. Honestly this guy and I made a pact that if I had someone or he was still married no sex and friends. That was 1996 and their still married. Men aren't going to just marry a woman to leave that women for their mistress. The mistresses are the ditzy ones that men know will listen to their bullshit and keep having sex with them. Stop being the Ditz! Geesh the ditzes are the one we women shake our heads at..laugh at and wonder when the ditz will get a clue? I guess some women are born to be ditzes the rest of their life. Thank God I let it go when I found out he was getting married. Maybe you should wise up and get a clue and move on with your life and shake those cobwebs out of your head.

Woman to Woman Encouragement.

Someone will always be prettier. They will always be smarter. Their house will be bigger. They will drive a better car. Their children will do better in school. And their husband will fix more things around the house.

So let it go, and love you and your circumstances. Think about it. The prettiest woman in the world can have hell in her heart. And the most highly favored woman on your job may be unable to have children. And the richest woman you know -- she's got the car, the house, the clothes -- might be lonely. And the word says if I have not Love, I am nothing.

So, again, love you. Love who you are right now and let God be your barometer. Mirror Him. Look in the mirror in the morning and see how much of God you see. He's the only standard and even when you come up short; he will not leave you or forsake you. Smile and may God continue to BLESS YOU Real GOOD!! "I am too blessed to be stressed and too anointed to be disappointed!" The shortest distance between a problem and a solution is the distance between your knees and the floor. "The one who kneels to God can stand up to anything." "Winners make things happen. Losers let things happen."

Be Blessed ladies and pass this on to encourage another woman. "To the world you might be one person, but to one person y! ou just might be the world" Life is not measured by the breaths you take but by the moments that take your breath away!

1. The reason why our bras don't always match our underwear is because WE actually change our underwear;

2. The next time you and your buddies make joe-ks about armed women in combat, take a poll to see which of you successfully aim at the toilet rim;

3. If we're watching football with you - it's not bonding - it's their butts;

4. Whenever possible, please try to say whatever you have to say after the movie;

5. Lay off the beans several hours before bedtime;

6. Please don't drive when you're not driving;

7. If you were really looking for an honest answer, you wouldn't ask in bed;

8. The next time you make joe-ks about female drivers, research the number of accidents caused by rubber-necking mini-skirts;

9. If only women gossip, how do you and your friends keep track of "who's easy"?

10. Stop telling us most male strippers are gay: we don't care;

11. When you're not around, I belch loudly, too;

12. We don't mind if you look in the mirror to check your appearance - in fact, please do!

13. When you're out with us, please wear "our" favorite outfit rather than "yours" - the torn jeans and dirty T-Shirt will last longer that way;

14. If you must grunt in reply, please develop a system to indicate a positive vs. a negative grunt;

15. Don't insist that we "get off the stupid phone" and then not talk to us;

16. Eye contact is best established above our shoulder-level;

17. Cleaning the house is not necessarily "women's work"; besides, most of the "dirt" and clutter is yours anyway

18. Yes, we know most of the great chefs are men, why is it then you never want to cook?

19. We go to the Ladies Room in groups to talk about you;

20. Yes, we know you can probably beat us arm wrestling... however, very few raises or promotions were gained by arm wrestling the boss.

[Note: Due to the Complexity and Difficulty Level of Their Content, Each Course Will Accept a Maximum of 8 Participants Each...]

Topic 1 - How to Fill up the Ice Cube Trays. Step by Step, with Slide Presentation.

Topic 2 - the Toilet Paper Roll: Do They Grow on the Holders? Round Table Discussion.

Topic 3 - Fundamental Differences Between the Laundry Hamper and the Floor. Pictures and Explanatory Graphics.

Topic 4 - the After-dinner Dishes and Silverware: Can They Levitate and Fly into the Kitchen Sink? Examples on Video.

Topic 5 - Loss of Identity: Losing the Remote to Your Significant Other.

Topic 6 - Learning How to Find Things, Starting with Looking in the Right Place Instead of Turning the House Upside down While Screaming. Open Forum.

Topic 7 - Health Watch: Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful to Your Health. Graphics and Audio Tape.

Topic 8 - Real Men Ask for Directions When Lost. Real Life Testimonials.

Topic 9 - Is it Genetically Impossible to Sit Quietly as She Parallel Parks? Driving Simulation.

Topic 10 - Learning to Live: Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife. Online Class and Role Playing.

Topic 11 - How to Be the Ideal Shopping Companion: Relaxation Exercises, Meditation and Breathing Techniques.

Topic 12 - How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy: Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries, Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late. Cerebral Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered.

*** Upon Completion of the Course Diplomas Will Be Issued to the Survivors.

1. THINGY (thing-ee) n.
Female... Any part under a car's hood.
Male... The strap fastener on a woman's bra.

2. VULNERABLE (vul-ne-ra-bel) adj.
Female... Fully opening up one's self emotionally to another.
Male... Playing hockey without a cup.

3. COMMUNICATION (ko-myoo-ni-kay-shon) n.
Female... The open sharing of thoughts and feelings with one's partner.
Male... Leaving a note before taking off on a fishing trip with the boys.

4. COMMITMENT (ko-mit-ment) n.
Female... A desire to get married and raise a family.
Male... Trying not to hit on other women while out with this one.

5. ENTERTAINMENT (en-ter-tayn-ment) n.
Female... A good movie, concert, play or book.
Male... Anything that can be done while drinking beer.

6. FLATULENCE (flach-u-lens) n.
Female... An Embarrassing byproduct of indigestion.
Male... A source of entertainment, self-expression, male bonding.

7. MAKING LOVE (may-king luv) n.
Female... The greatest expression of intimacy a couple can achieve.
Male... Call it whatever you want just as long as we do it.

8. REMOTE CONTROL (ri-moht kon-trohl) n.
Female... A device for changing from one TV channel to another.
Male... A device for scanning through all 375 channels every 5 minutes

NB or Steven..and yea even Chelseas husband ..

Ok guys...what is it with marriage? I have been married two times...the guys are a blast..we spent alot of time togther while still having a life...shared interests and the sex was good. Then Dummy here says ok after a couple yrs of being together let's get married...then it's like the sex life gets dull or hardly at all...my current husband who used to love to go to the bars together...introduce me to his friends etc was life Big Time Change once I Do was said.  Now he never asks me to go to his friends house who are also married and happily. He takes off to the bars alone every sat and comes home late. Says he needs to clear his head while he leaves me home with kids etc

Why do men change??  Like i tell friends lately I don't want to grow old alone. We do nothing together ever! If I talk he tells me he's busy or to shut up. I'm starting to feel lonely and that he has no room in his life for me. I don't want a divorce again...I want a husband but not if it's to be lonely the rest of my life...just really frustrated here.

Yea I agree with one thing ya'll..if he's not yet he will. He did on his two ex's and of course he told me when he got married that was it. Got up this morning and asked him why two packages of hotdogs were opened when he's the only one to eat em. His reply was u just stop! Talk shit we never go out to dinner or breakfast unless I pay for it. and then we just sit there and not talk. Anytime I talk to him I get told to shut up or he's busy. Like right now. if it stays What hasn't helped is I finally went out to Bingo(it's relaxing) and last nite  ran into some old friends and of course they had to mention a ex. Didn't help after seeing my husband at the bar..know what i mean.

So have come to a conclusion...This man won't spend time with me...won't help even with the lawn etc...so going to try slimfast..grow my hair back out...damn I cut that 8 inches off. Quit all my meds two weeks ago and my body is already starting to kick in to lose weight finally. I need a life and if he's not going to be involved I'll get my own. Lose weight start wearing my leathers again again and join pool leagues.

I respect what u just said..opened up alot for me...let my husband see it and he said it wasn't right with him. He's saying everytime he asks to go out I shoot him down. Well it seems the only time he ever asked to go out I had my kids here or had work that nite. He always asks when he knows I can't. Shit we've been out 3 times in two yrs.I guess I am just shutting the door to him. No talking to him...asked his opinion and said we needed to talk....he was talking I started to say one word and he was like see you never let me talk. Because his talking is shup up and listen. Never add to it.

I think if I get this salary position just going to say fuck the marriage. Because the way things seem..that's where it's leading anyhow.

yea like right now he's watching tv ignoring me. The reason I say I agree with you somewhat is women get that way too. Marriage is work...my mom and dad have been together over 50 yrs. I am almost 40..he didn't even acknowledge my birthday a week ago...he went to the bar. Told me he was broke as usual. But funny he always has two 40's after work.

I just got done looking at my neice's wedding pics on the net..she got married on the 11th...in the pics u could tell they were in love...they looked like the were having the time of their life. In some of their pics you could tell he really cherished her. I can see them married 50 yrs plus....

Even tho I'm not lucky she deserves to be happy. We lost my brother and her father two yrs ago aug 8th...this man she married was a studymate through school and her support while we went through my brother dying.

Go to the pharmacy and get the over the counter prenatal vitamins...did wonders when you were preganant ;)

Ok...Told ya I talked to my husband's friend. Knew if I talked to her she'd go running her mouth off to him. Which I assumed she did. No he's not cheating. Whew because had me tore up. Doesn't help I know he cheated on his ex's so I'm always on alert. We talked kinda... Told him I was going to start taking $20 everyweekend for my myself and going out either to bingo or the bar for some challenging pool. he actuall said he thought that was a good idea. He said he quit asking me to go out because I would shoot him down and he got tired of asking. I explained that when he'd ask it would be when i had my kids here etc. Which is full time but sometimes their gone for the weekends. I pointed out to him that like last nite they were gone with their dad and I'm usually sitting at home alone. Told him that when he was taking off on saturdays for the bar the kids would be gone. He was like oh...just so use to them here all the time. Told him I was tired of sitting sat nites alone while he was out having fun. Now we'll see what happens. Also attacked him in the living room and got him doing quite abit. Told him that is one thing I missed...we use to have fun with sex when we'd have the kids gone and that wasn't anymore too. Told him I don't need all of his time just miss the times we use to have and it was making me frustrated and angry. Anyhow I am going out next sat to the bar..a friend's b/f plays pool and we're going out for a few games. My friend trusts me and says since she doesn't play pool would be good for us to get out and play out our stress.

They say having a baby is a stressful thing on the marriage. Have to change it all...also they say it changes a man how he looks at his wife because she's gone from sweetie to Mom. Show him differently tabby.

Steven...My husband and I finally talked. He now realizes all these saturdays  he's out at the bar alone that i am sitting alone at home. He thought the kids were always here. He didn't realize that after my ex would get off work at 7pm he'd come get the kids for awhile. Hence leaving me home alone stewing. Shit like I told him my daughter is almost 14..son is 12 12/2. They have housekeys for when they get home from being with their dad and head straight to the computers and live on em. Their reaching the ages where i can have more of a life. We'll see if this changes things. It was funny I said something about sex..he got turned on and walked over to me and said "See this is because of you and not some other woman...you are the one I get turned on over"

Hmm Tabbt let me ask my friend who has cut my hair etc for 17 yrs and see if she has any advice for ya.

 Got thinking of how i'll get his attention. I get paid friday..my daughter has been begging for kegoel grilled hot dogs..only kind she'll eat. Maybe just maybe if he takes off again next sat I'll invite some friends over and grill etc..if he shows up and says why didn't I tell him...just be well honey you were nowhere to be reached so went ahead with my plans...*lol*

This too funny and since I can't post in a jokes section you have to see this!!

www.noedesign.com/dev/KerryEdwards/index.html

Geesh..I listen to R&B and listened to Usher with My Confession part 2..have you ever heard the words..If I was the g/f in the song I'd kick the man to the curb!

heres the lyrics

Lyrics to Confessions Part II by Usher.

Watch this...

(Chorus)
These are my confessions
Just when I thought I said all I can say
My chick on the side said she got one on the way
These are my confessions
Man I'm thrown and I dont know what to do
I guess I gotta give you part two of my confessions
If I'm gonna tell it then I gotta tell it all
Damn near cried when I got that phone call
I'm so thrown and I don't know what to do
But to give you part 2 of my confessions

[ Usher Lyrics. Confessions Part II lyrics. ]

(Verse 1)
Now this gon' be the hardest thing I think I ever had to do
Got me talkin' to myself askin' how I'm gon' tell you
'bout that chick on part 1 I told ya'll I was creepin' with, creepin' with
Said she's 3 months pregnant and she's keepin' it
The first thing that came to mind was you
Second thing was how do I know if it's mine and is it true
Third thing was me wishin' that I never did what I did
How I ain't ready for no kid and bye bye to our relationship

[ Usher Lyrics. Confessions Part II lyrics. ]

(Chorus)
These are my confessions
Just when I thought I said all I can say
My chick on the side said she got one on the way
These are my confessions
Man I'm throwed and I don't know what to do
I guess I gotta give you part 2 of my confessions
If I'm gonna tell it then I gotta tell it all
Damn near cried when I got that phone call
I'm so throwed and I don't know what to do
But to give you part 2 of my confessions

[ Usher Lyrics. Confessions Part II lyrics. ]

(Verse 2)
Sittin here stuck on stupid, tryna figure out
When, what, and how I'mma let this come out of my mouth
Said it ain't gon' be easy
But I need to stop thinkin', contemplatin'
Be a man and get it over with (over with)
I'm ridin' in my whip
Racin' to her place
Talkin' to myself
Preparin' to tell her to her face
She open up the door and didn't want to come near me
I said one second baby please hear me

(Chorus)
These are my confessions
Just when I thought I said all I can say
My chick on the side said she got one on the way
These are my confessions
Man I'm throwed and I don't know what to do
I guess I gotta give you part 2 of my confessions
If I'm gonna tell it then I gotta tell it all
Damn near cried when I got that phone call
I'm so throwed and I don't know what to do
But to give you part 2 of my confessions

[ Usher Lyrics. Confessions Part II lyrics. ]

(Breakdown)
This by far is the hardest thing I think I've ever had to do
To tell you, the woman I love
That I'm having a baby by a woman that I barely even know
I hope you can accept the fact that I'm man enough to tell you this
And hopefully you'll give me another chance
This ain't about my career
This ain't about my life
It's about us
Please

[ Usher Lyrics. Confessions Part II lyrics. ]

(Chorus)
These are my confessions
Just when I thought I said all I can say
My chick on the side said she got one on the way
These are my confessions
Man I'm throwed and I don't know what to do
I guess I gotta keep part 2 of my confessions
If I'm gonna tell it then I gotta tell it all
Damn near cried when I got that phone call
I'm so throwed and I don't know what to do
But to give you part 2 of my confessions

Ladies...let me stress this..DO NOT GO THERE!!

LMM I just sent them a email requesting to be removed from their site. They are putting women's lives at risk bigtime and don't care. I guess a couple of the guys who are abusive whined to someone name Sammy how the women abuse them and convinced Sammy to show everyones IP#'s there. That is dangerous due to NeoTrace being a proggy where you can enter the IP# and find them and all their info. The women there have begged to have Shawn and Fuzzy banned due to their abusive behavior and the owner of the site doesn't not listen.

So sorry but I would warn any woman to not step foot into that site.

Harley

Awwww,,,,,going to miss you...in the divorce settlement tell the judge you want his computer and in working condition too...he'll probally give it to ya. Good luck with the divorce and head to a library and stop in once in awhile and let us know your are ok..

Hugs...

Had to post this...it's too funny!!

15 things a man can do at Wal-Mart-while his wife/girlfriend is taking her
sweet time:

1.	Get 24 boxes of condoms & randomly put them in people's carts when
they
aren't looking.
2.	Set all the alarm clocks in House wares to go off at 5 minute
intervals.
3.	Make a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the ladies
rest-room.
4.	Walk up to an employee and tell him/her in an official tone:
'Code 3 in House wares' . . and see what happens.
5.	Go to the Service Desk and ask to put a bag of M&M's on lay-away.
6.	Move a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area.
7.	Set-up a tent in the ! Camping Department-and tell other shoppers
you re
sleeping over; invite them in, if they bring pillows from the Bedding
Department.
8.	When a clerk asks if they can help you, begin to cry and ask:
"Why can't you people just leave me alone?"
9.	Look right into the security camera, use it as a mirror and pick
your
nose.
10.	While handling guns in the Hunting Department,! ask the clerk if he
knows where the anti-depressants are.
11.	Dart around the store suspiciously, while loudly humming the theme
from
Mission Impossible."
12.	In the Auto Department, practice your "Madonna look" using different
sized funnels.
13.	Hide in a clothing rack . . . and when people browse through, say:
"PICK
ME!!! PICK ME!!!"
14.	When an announcement comes over the loudspeaker, assume the fetal
position and scream "NO!...It's those voices again!!!"

And last but not least:
15.	Go into a fitting room, shut the door and wait a while , then yell
loudly: "There's no toilet paper in here!"

Cheaters...It's kinda...mostly because I am too busy now myself to worry if he'll give me attention or not. This last wed I finally got more hrs at work...thank goodness! I clean restrooms for a living and yea I love it...love seeing the end results of my work and the people I clean for appreciate it. I was working 3 hrs a nite mon thru fri...started the job last month...well my boss says I have more than proved myself with my work...gave me the owners acct to clean...Ever heard of the company John Henry?  They are a large manufactor for medical supply containers and those lil stick things that go in flower for directions on care..also make those lil cards you put with bouquests. Damn I told them I wanted more work...got 12 restrooms to do alone. They hadn't had anyone doing them for awhile due to no call no show. I'll tell ya what have my work cut out for me especially when in a week they go up for renewal of their contract. So between my two places to clean I cleaned 28 bathrooms in 8 hrs. I am beat to say the least.

Took myself off my antidepressant two weeks ago and I feel better...so doing something I haven't done in 7 + yrs..getting a bunch of friends together sat and having a big bbq..told the husband unit his choice if he's home or not..

age thing...I turned 38 yrs old on july 13.

Ok smartass...ya sure you could pass?? because if you have a curve would have to get you back on the straight and narrow...

and I refuse to parallel park...makes me too nervous!

omg you did not just start this thread..going to have a riot literally in this one

My ex husband father of my kids got himself fired from working at a hospital making over $47,000 a yr because he didn't want to pay me child support. Now he's even refusing to file taxes due to it would go to me. He is 47 yrs old...has no place to live..crashes at mommy or daaddy's. Now his mom is retired from a hospital after working 26 yrs there and he's already gone through her pension. His dad is a korean war vet and he crashes there at his dad's where his dad is on subsided living for the elderly and disable. He drives a 99 Lumina with leather seats and sunroof etc. While I drive his kids to school in a 89 Tempo that is rusted and dented in the side. Yea he'll come and get the kids and take them to his folks where they can feed them etc...Saying he's their dad . I work in a cleaning job and like yesterday cleaned 28 restrooms in 8 hrs alone. he works at a computer store for $7 a hr part time. This is a man who was US certified to do organ retrievals etc...but won't do it so he can claim poverty and not give me child support. My husband pays $1,205 a month for 3 kids..two we don't even know where they are. We struggle...

The states say their out to help the custodial parent...I say Bullshit due to I filed again for child support and they take $25 a week from my ex and keep it saying it's going for late fees and interest on back child support.

The media plays so much on Domestic Violence on women they rarely discuss on men...due to men supposedly the stronger sex. When in all actuality it's rampant on men too. I can honestly say I have hit a guy in anger etc 2 times...1 when I was 16 and caught him with a girl I couldn't stand and who made my life miserble..our dad's worked together.

My ex...he would beat me..choke me etc...One day got drunk and just went off...he said I wouldn't keep hitting him telling him I was getting him back for all the times he beat on me.

But I know some women who will literally go off on their men and abuse them. 1 took a brass lamp over her husband's head for being 10 min late from work. Not prejudice but if you look you'll find more black women and mexican women are abusers. They were raised to be strong women and to fight for what they want...even if it's beating their man.

BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

I have had enough and this thread got me on a roll...my ex is going to hate me bigtime!!

I turned him into the IRS today for refusing to file taxes the last several yrs because he not wanting me to get the child support owed me...so he is being turned in for a criminal tax evasion.

Fucker!

We do have some awesome men here too Kalley...Their good men..and no their not from Ihatemen

We have NewBastard who's been with us awhile...he's been through some rough times with his ex..so we depend on each other here.

Then we have Wire our youngest brain...He's open to learning about women and also has had some g/f problems and asks for advice,....while we ask for his.

Then we have Steven...He's a good guy..who listens to us women..gives us a man's opinion etc...another good shoulder for us.

Then we have CheatersSuck....which you see if a smart ass like me,...see you get our age we can get away with being a smart ass. I think he's been learning here what went wrong with his marriage...and if he gets married ever again..will be a good husband..

if I missed any regulars here...sorry..but the dickheads here are the ones from IHateGuys that feel a woman with a shattered vulva etc is perfect to them...as long as they can do the shattering.

This is the site for abused men..

http://www.batteredmenshelpline.org/

National Hotline # is 1-(888) 7-HELPLINE

SOME REASONS WHY MEN MIGHT STAY IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP:

• Shame

  "What will people think if they knew I let a woman beat up on me?" ."I don't want to be laughed at; no one would believe me."

• Self-Worth

  "I probably deserved it."

• Denial

  "I can handle it, it's not that bad."
  "All I have to do is leave the house until she cools down.

• Reluctance to Give Up the Good

  "She is really a creative, or loving, or wonderful person most of the time."
  "She doesn't mean to be this way it's PMS, the kids giving her a hard time etc."

• Inertia

  "It's too hard to do anything."
  "I'm not ready for that much change in my life."
  "I'll do it tomorrow, or later, when I'm not so busy."
  

If a number of these factors are true in your relationship, there is a problem. Victims of domestic violence come from all walks of life - all cultures, all income groups, all ages, all religions. They also come in both sexes. They share feelings of helplessness, isolation, guilt, fear, and shame.

TOP

TOP

WHY MEN DON'T TELL

Many men cope with being abused by taking on a macho "I can handle it" attitude.

Even if you have been hurt much worse on an athletic playing field, that is not the same thing as being physically attacked by your intimate partner, which hurts emotionally as well as physically. Allowing this pattern to continue can result in depression, substance abuse, and loss of confidence, even suicide..

Men typically face a greater degree of disbelief and ridicule than do most women in this situation, which helps enforce the silence. Domestic violence victims make excuses for injuries that show ("It was an accident" or "it happened while playing sports") when friends or medical personnel ask about them.

Abusers are expert at making victims feel no one is on their side., which is a self-fulfilling prophecy--the more you withdraw from friends and family to protect your partner, the less other people will be able to help you by confirming your experiences.

TOP

If he's deep in his heart trying and want the marriage...then he's being faithful. Sometimes guys when their relationship is on the rocks converse with other women. Now he's been going out with a bunch of them at a time...if he was cheating he wouldn't make it so obvious. But one thing I would lay the law down on is Marriage counseling. Something is making him restless and hopefully marriage counseling would be the key. Get with one who sees you both seperately..gets to the heart of what's bothering you and help you understand why you do it. Then when she or he feels the time is right and you understand yourselves,...they'll put you together and time to start over happens,

Bedtime for me in a sec...been up almost 72 hrs and dead, dead tired at 3:38am

Trust me Cheaters...if you had insulted anyone we'd let ya know..we've become a big family here and joking and smart ass comments are allowed...

Having a big bbq here today so won't be online much

Peace!

Hon..he's bored.  One of the most stressful times in a marriage is when you have a baby and young ones. When the baby is born the men (even tho we don't understand) See us in a different like. Before we were sex objects..then they see ya stretched open and it all changes. Sorry but it does. I use to be against strip clubs til I drove cab and met the women that work them..then a very good friend of mine dances too. Want to kill his urge for them? Very easy.,.surprise him one nite...get a babysitter to take your daughter over nite. get dressed up as sexy as you feel comfortable...make a date and surprise him with the strip club...go with him. these women don't have anything you don't. Just draw the line with lap dances etc...if they come to talk get to know them. The first time I went to my friends strip club I came out and cried..they intimadated me...but when I got to know them...nah. When he sees you're open to the idea...won't be a challange to go to them. Plus girl the benefits of the sex you'll get when you get home...hang on tight! Just make it a sexual nite. He's not cheating on you...just a thing to him where he needs to see you as a sex kitten again and not just worn out mom. Watch your marriage pick right back up..be the mom etc outside of the bedroom and the sexual terror in the bedroom...Never let him get bored...that's when they wander.

So kick back and drink a few beers before going and drink while there and just relax.

There is what the state considers abuse...then what is abuse. Been through this quite a bit..my husband has been in jail 3 times...

1 time he locked me out of the house..calling me CUNT etc...he pulled the battery out of the doorbell..physically shoved me out the door...

end result: Jail for him

2nd time he yanked my son who was 7 at the time down the stairs and left a bruise on his arm.

end result: Jail for him

3rd time almost 2 yrs ago...gave me a black eye which he does not remember giving me and denies due to being drunk. He still tells peeps it's a lie...

end result: 30 days in jail

next time 1 yr.

Now I have to watch my step due to even if I hit him in joking he's dying to get me for abuse.

Spousal abuse could even be refusing sex..yeppers. You can actually ask for a divorce on the grounds of lack of sex.

Refusing to cook dinner if they can't...they can get charged with abuse for being the bread winner and denying grocery money.

I guess my point is that yes there is alot of abuse...men get it all the time too...a woman slaps them in the face which women don't think about is abuse. But movies growing up show the woman slapping the man and getting away with it. Trying to control your man is emotional abuse...women basically think women abuse because it's happening to them,

Take the poor slob..works 40+ hrs a week..decides he wants to stop at the bar with co-workers for a few drinks. Walks in the door later and meets this" Where have you been(hands on hips) You're late...I expected you home a hr ago..don't you ever think that Maybe I am cooking dinner and you arent here? So cook your own damn dinner...*slap* and don't be late again!"

Wow...would you want to come home to that? Women do that and don't think about it. That's emotional abuse.

Mama use to say" Ang to you it might seem ok or sound ok how you say it...but to them it could sound totally different" Before you speak and before you act make sure you think of how it might sound to the other person.

Women and Men are both guilty of abuse..it's not right either way...just be careful how far you take the controlling etc.

It's about it hon..the ones usually hang with ya all the time but love to chat to your b/f.

I have several female aqauintances(spelled the wrong..but oh well) But then I have 2 very best friends. 1 I have had for 17 1/2 yrs...total trust there...then my other for 10 yrs.

been stabbed in the back several times by the others...one was even in a accident with me,....she hollared to on the injustice of me getting the ticket when hit by a 20 yr old drunk driver..she talked her smack which I found out later...because when it came to court to fight the ticket etc and needed a witness my so called friend wouldn't say a thing in my defense.

another favorite quote is this:

Keep your friends close...and your enemies even closer.

I know for a fact he has no problem getting it ready..just he goes to the point with no play before hand.  Sex is boring...we use to have fun with it and then we got married.

I was reading a marriage pamphet earlier...when I get home from work I'll type something in it said...was interesting.

Damn wish you were in Michigan..we're the fatest state in the US..as reports go *lol* Actually hon I am 5'1 and 245lbs and my husband loves me that way...and you know what...here I have no problem at all meeting men when single. They love the personality hon...a woman plus size with a good sense of humor is a man magnet! Yea I have my negative days as the ladies here can tell ya...but all in all I am sexy and beautiful. I was 34-21-34 when I was young...sweetie those days are gone! I have a kinda adopted son named Adrian(yea I have my kids) I introduced him to a girl across the street...he was like Ma she's kinda on the thick side...well he went out with her and called me and said"Thx for bringing her into my life"

Now go out...buy you some sexy bras and underwear...hell wear them under sweats...it's amazing how sexy you'll feel knowing their there...

Cheer up...forget the others...and like LMM said...friends are a dime a dozen..but prefer a real friend.

no it's not possible...You're heart will break everytime...you need to heal..maybe yrs down the road but not right now. This is your healing time...explain to him it's just not something you could handle at this time.

Beautiful site...enjoy :)

http://www.dobhran.com/greetings/GRinspire306.htm

The Beauty Of A Woman

Hope ya'll have a wonderful day!

http://www.dobhran.com/greetings/GRinspire409.htm

Heres one in honor and some in fun just for you men...Hope you enjoy  :)

The Strength of a Man

The strength of a man isn't in the deep tone of his voice.
It's in the gentle words he whispers.

The strength of a man isn't how many buddies he has.
It's how good of buddies he is with his children.

The strength of a man isn't in how respected he is at work.
It's in how respected he is at home.

The strength of a man isn't in how hard he hits.
It's in how tender he touches.

The strength in a man isn't in the hair on his chest.
It's in his Heart . . . that lies within his chest.

The strength of a man isn't in the weight he can lift.
It's in the burdens he can carry.

--Sermon Fodder

~~~~~

Only in America...do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway -- and leave useless junk in the garage...

~~~~~

It's Good To Be Man!

• Your last name stays put.

• The garage is all yours.

• Wedding plans take care of themselves.

• Chocolate is just another snack.

• You can be president.

• You can wear a white t-shirt to a water park.

• Car mechanics tell you the truth.

• You don't give a rat's ass if someone notices your new haircut.

• The world is your urinal.

• You never have to drive to another gas station because this one's just too icky.

• Same work... more pay.

• Wrinkles add character.

• Wedding Dress $5000; Tux rental $100.

• People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

• The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected.

• New shoes don't cut, blister or mangle your feet.

• Your pals can be trusted never to trap you with: "So, notice anything different?"

• One mood, ALL the damn time.

• Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.

• You know stuff about tanks.

• A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.

• You can open all your own jars.

• Dry cleaners and hair stylists don't rob you blind.

• You can leave the motel bed unmade.

• You can kill your own food.

• You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

• If someone forgets to invite you to something, he or she can still be your friend.

• Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.

• If you are 34 and single, nobody notices.

• Everything on your face stays its original color.

• You can quietly enjoy a car ride from the passenger's seat.

• Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.

• You don't have to clean your apartment if the maid is coming.

• You can quietly watch a game with a buddy for hours without thinking: "He must be mad at me."

• You don't mooch off other's desserts.

• You can drop by to see a friend without having to bring a little gift. 

• You are not expected to know the names of more than five colors.

• You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.

• You almost never have strap problems in public.

• You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.

• The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. 

• You don't have to shave below your neck.

• Your belly usually hides your big hips. 

• One wallet and one pair of shoes, one color, all seasons.

• You can "do" your nails with a pocketknife.

~~~~~

Q. What do bullet proof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers and laser printers all have in common?
A. All invented by women.

~~~~~

~~~~~

Q. Most boat owners name their boats. What is the most popular boat name requested?
A. Obsession

~~~~~

Man's Revenge against "Just hold me"

    I never have quite figured out why the sexual urges of men & women differ so much. And I never have figured out the whole Mars & Venus thing. And I never have figured out why men think with their head and women with their heart. And I never yet have figured out how the sexual desire gene gets thrown into a state of turmoil, when it hears the words "I do". 
    One evening last week, my wife and I were getting into bed. Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says, "I don't feel like it, I just want you to hold me."
    I said, "WHAT??" 
    So she says the words that I and every husband on the planet dreads. She explains that I must not be in tune with her emotional needs as a woman. I'm thinking, "What was her first clue?"
    I finally realize that nothing is going to happen that night, so I went to sleep.
    The very next day the we went shopping at a big unnamed department store... I walked around while she tried on three very expensive outfits. She couldn't decide which one to take, so I told her to take all three of them. She then tells me that she wants matching shoes worth $200 each to which I say OK. And then we go to the Jewelry Dept. where she gets a set of diamond earrings. Let me tell you ...she was so excited. She must have thought that I was one wave short of a shipwreck, but I don't think she cared. I think she was testing me when she asked for a tennis bracelet because she doesn't even play tennis. I think I threw her for a loop when I told her that it was OK. 
    She was almost sexually excited from all of this and you should have seen her face when she said, "I'm ready to go, let's go to the cash register." I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, "No, honey. I don't feel like buying all this stuff now."
    You should have seen her face ... it went completely blank.
I then said,    "Really honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for a while." And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added, "You must not be in tune with my financial needs as a Man."
    I figure that I should be having sex again sometime during the spring thaw.

show them off...we don't judge and love to share...speaking from the heart should never be judged .

Ok Ladies as ya’ll know been fighting for the women at IHateMen.com...that site has alot of rude,crude and socially unacceptable men. The women there asked me to find them a area for just ladies to chat in...no men at all!! Now I figured we have some awesome women here too that should meet some of the ladies at ihm...now their heading to this site also.

I have started a forum just for ladies in a private area...not even going to post the link for this site in the open. Due to no men allowed...Love ya guys but the women need their space.

This forum was a free web hosting...small for now but just for us. Let’s combine the ladies from both sites here for everything but private. Already emailed LMM on this. Will also be looking into a irc chat for only women. We also need to get the chat going here bigtime. So figured with all our thoughts together can come up with some ideas.

So if interested in the private...email me at aschalz@yahoo.com

Now if I don’t know you from either site..be prepared to prove you are female and not some guy trying to be nosy and invade the ladies space.

Harley

Hope to see ya there too LMM...

Wire wrote:

Harley wrote: Wire hon..U have mail. I sent ya the link. Got it.

Well the ladies are waiting...

and guys if you pass the approval you're more than welcome. Just email first for the link.

Just found this quote..love it!!

All men are animals, some just make better pets."

Steven..so far they've been great..even showing me how to clean my credit up to survive. I go in a hr for the filing of the papers etc. He knows and is being quiet but told me I am fucking up as usual. He claims I am mentally disturbed and this comes from the guy who blesses the dead of 30 yrs when he gets drunk. I also have to go pick up the Personal Protection Order today..that will be the straw that breaks the camels back..

I wrote him a 6 page letter that could save our marriage which he refuses to read. That tells me alot.I'll update ya'll later when I get back to the library.

I  DID IT..I DID IT..I DID IT!!!!!

OMG I DID IT!!!

ok he went to the bar tonight without me as usual...he came back and yea we got into it...well he didn't believe me on the ppo bit...well I called!! I got the nerve and called and now I am on HIS internet on MY computer and he had the balls to have his friend calling if he could have his computer...Yea righty..

OMG I feel so free!!!!

Sorry to see you go Steven but priorites are important too...email me sometime...I made a decision today..I am dropping the ppo charges. This way if my husband wants to talk he can...I'm going through mixed emotions right now...in the end it will turn out for the best...I wish you the best in school...make something of yourself and make us all proud...Thanks for the support you have given us...

Good Luck!!

Ok here is what I found out today..

A cop cannot cancel a PPO...and they can't make you even give the asshole his clothes etc. Also law is now until you are married past 5 yrs that anything bought during the marriage is not marital property til after 5 yrs of marriage.

www.playsite.com a site for games..what's fun and they don't tell ya is a couple of the members set up realtime leagues and you get to meet for a weekend and play cards etc.

www.rats2u.com real good internet card site...can find cards you can send peeps from adult to just plain simple.

Max and Ruby's Trivia and Games...heres the link

http://www.maxaruby.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php

a friend of mine owns the site...it's a forum for trivia games etc...he has it also with guess the song with song clips to guess from...He puts alot of time into and a real fun site

He came over yesterday with the info for marriage counseling and we're going to get it set up on mon...internet is off , why I haven't been online...should be back on within a week,,,right now at the library. He made a statement yesterday that shocked me...after all this time of saying he's done nothing wrong..he said" we need counseling to find out what I am doing wrong also...get this shit cleared up" I was like Whoa! This is strong coming from him...but the thing is things are going cool for me...starting a new job at Krogers...got my own phone since he has ours shut off...found out section 8 is opening up on monday so calling for that...I have fixed my storm door with a new screen, repaired my mailbox, cleaned my house..getting ready to paint it...got $300 a month in food stamps and check this out...even cleaned the filter on my car!! Also this 3 weeks has been a eye opener and not even sure I want to be married anymore. Kinda nice having the freedom to do what I want and know my house is how I want it, My son sat down at the table with me the other night and ate dinner with me...daughter wasn't eating. We've never been able to do that since my husband always had his shit on the table. Been kinda peaceful without him controlling shit or bitching all the time. He wants to take me out tonight ..we'll see how that goes but not even sure how I feel about him anymore.

So see Ladies...The decision is hard to make...and alot of crying etc...but hell if at 38 yrs old and first time on my own can make it...so can you!!

I'll check in later..at the library right now..

Love ya~ Harley

A time comes into your life when you finally get it when, in the midst of all your fears and insanity, you stop dead in your tracks and some where the voice inside your head cries out ENOUGH! Enough fighting and crying and blaming and struggling to hold on.

Then, like a child quieting down after a tantrum, you blink back your tears and begin to look at the world through new eyes.

This is your awakening.

You realize it is time to stop hoping and waiting for something to change, or for happiness, safety and security to magically appear over the next horizon.

You realize that in the real world there aren't always fairy tale endings, and that any guarantee of happily ever after must begin with you and in the process a sense of serenity is born of acceptance.

You awaken to the fact that you are not perfect and that not everyone will always love, appreciate or approve of who or what you are and that is OK. They are entitled to their own views and opinions.

You learn the importance of loving and championing yourself and in the process a sense of newfound confidence is born of self-approval.

You stop complaining and blaming other people for the things they did to you or didn't do for you and you learn that the only thing you can really count on is the unexpected.

You learn that people don't always say what they mean or mean what they say and that not everyone will always be there for you and that everything isn't always about you.

So, you learn to stand on your own and to take care of yourself and in the process a sense of safety and security is born of self-reliance.

You stop judging and pointing fingers and you begin to accept people as they are and to overlook their shortcomings and human frailties and in the process a sense of peace and contentment is born in the forgiveness.

You learn to open up to new worlds and different points of view.

You begin reassessing and redefining who you are and what you really stand for.

You learn the difference between wanting and needing and you begin to discard the doctrines and values you've outgrown or should never have bought into to begin with.

You learn that principles such as honesty and integrity are not the outdated ideals of a bygone era, but the mortar that holds together the foundation upon which you must build a life.

Then you learn about love. You learn to look at relationships as they really are and not as you would have them to be.

You learn that alone does not mean lonely.
You stop trying to control people, situations and outcomes.

You learn to distinguish between guilt and responsibility and the importance of setting boundaries and learning to say NO.

You learn that your body really is your temple. You begin to care for it and treat it with respect.
You learn that being tired fuels doubt, fear, and uncertainty and so you take more time to rest.
And, just as food fuels the body, laughter fuels our soul. So you take more time to laugh and play.

You learn that, for the most part, you get in life what you believe you deserve, and that much of life is truly is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You learn that anything worth achieving is worth working for and that wishing for something to happen is different that working toward making it happen.

You also learn that no one can do it all alone, and that it is OK to risk asking for help.
You learn the only thing you must truly fear is fear itself.

You learn to step right into and through your fears because you know that whatever happens you can handle it and to give in to fear is to give away the right to love life on your own terms.

You learn that life isn't always fair, you don't always get what you think you deserve and that sometimes bad things happen to unsuspecting, good people and you learn not to always take it personally.

You learn that nobody's punishing you and everything isn't always somebody's fault. It's just life happening.

You learn to admit when you are wrong and to build bridges instead of walls.
You learn that negative feelings such as anger, envy and resentment must be understood and redirected or they will suffocate the life out of you and poison the universe that surrounds you.

You learn to be thankful and to take comfort in many of the simple things we take for granted, things that millions of people upon the earth can only dream about; a full refrigerator, clean running water, a soft warm bed, a long hot shower.

You make it a point to keep smiling, to keep trusting, and to stay open to every wonderful possibility. Finally, with courage in your heart, you take a stand, you take a deep breath, and you begin to design the life you want to live as best you can.

Ok Counseling(marriage) is Mon...even tho I'm wary it'll work on his end....5am this morning and I am filling out my section 8 papers...they opened the waiting list mon....already have legal aid with a attny and papers are drawn up..suppose to be sent to me to sign...but waiting to see if he'll even try or not. ..and you're right..tired of living on his terms and rules and if he is to come back there will be changes...if he can't bend or make these changes then we are done.

Darla wrote:

hey everyone, I was wondering if you guys could tell what are the best perfume out there for the ladies???I just want to add some new stuff to my collection....Guys feel free to tell me about the best stuff you have smelt on girls...

I was surprised to read that what I wear daily was popular and one of the best and reasonable priced....I wear the warm vanilla suger body spray from Bath and Body Works..

My daughter for mom's day bought me the whole collection of it...Love it...and they actually say vanilla is a man lurer for scents lol

Hon..can't eat alot of meat..I have acholasia...where due to severe acid reflux disease my esphogus closes and they have to open it...I get scar tissue where I regurgitate foods...especially meats...why I have a difficult time losing weight...my metabolism went to hell. I was raised as a seventh day adventists ministers daughter so was vegetarian... was raised to substitute meats with proteins naturally. My stomach doesn't handle the meat products very much...with clean meats I eat chicken and love fish too...I love to broil or bbq them so I don't have the grease which makes me sick. When I eat hamburger I rinse my meat with hot water to make sure all fat is rinsed away so I don't get sick...

why they even said atdkins diet wouldn't even work for me.

Well I came from a family where my folks have been married 55 yrs...they didn't make it that long living apart. Being a minister's daughter I have certain expectations to being married.

Went to first session of marriaging counseling...going to be a job but he's been talking about missing home..right now he's fixing the brakes on my car...he like me has the same feelings when it comes to marriage. I don't like him coming home once a week for sex but at least I know where he's getting it from. He and I have started talking ...which is a first in a long time and he actually let me cry on his chest which honestly was nice.We do have friends that have lived together 26 yrs and never married but like she says...get mad at them can kick them out...marriage shouldn't be that easy to just walk away from...When it comes to visiting once a week with the kids...their not his kids so visitiation with them is not a issue. My kids and he are not that close.

In 30 min it will be LMM's birthday...So want to wish her a Very Happy Birthday on the 28th...

Happy Birthday!!!

Harley

How about a plain white t-shirt with the logo etc that you just mentioned...or a white ribbed tank...yea the one guy I mentioned wants a shirt for him and his wife.

The plain white I would wear also lol

Got this in a email today from a friend. So wanted to pass it on...answers alot of questions...so enjoy and learn.

Harley

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I was watching Oprah yesterday and something really hit home. I know what you're thinking, "Boy, Monique has too much time on her hands." You're right but that's another story. Anyway, the topic that was being discussed was called "He's just not that into you..." It hit home because for many years, I was (what I thought) head over heals in love with some guy who kept coming up with reason after reason as to why we couldn't be together. "I don't want to spoil the friendship." "You're just to young for me (we were five years apart)." "I'm trying to get my career straight." "I have family problems to deal with," etc., etc. It wasn't until he got engaged to someone else  (who was much younger that I was) that finally concluded, "Damn, he's just not that into me." But what a waste of time. According to the show, men often substitute excuses for their real feelings in an effort to avoid confrontation and spare our feelings but sometimes we just can't catch the hint. "I love you" can really mean "I'm saying whatever I can to spare your feelings."

Now I'm married with child and happier than ever. But, I often hear my girlfriends go on and on about guys who they "just can't understand." I just want to say "Girl, he's just not that into you" but like the guy I was dealing with I don't want to hurt their feelings and I'm sure the guys they are dealing with are saying, "doesn't she get it?" Now mind you, these women are kicking butt in the boardroom but are walking doormats in their love life -- go figure!

So for those of you who missed the show or for those of you who want a way to indirectly put your girlfriend on or for those of you wondering "Is he the one?" I'm going to give you my own "How do you know if he's just not into you?"

If you're sitting here wondering if "he's the one" because the guy seems too nervous or unsure about pursuing a relationship...

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If you're doing all (or most) of the calling, emailing, writing, contacting, inviting, etc.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he asks about your weekend but never gets around to asking you out.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If you find yourself trying to convince the guy that it's time the two of you settled down and he gets dead silent or defensive when the topic comes up.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If it's been quite some time since you've known each other and he hasn't indicated that he wants to sleep with you and he's not a Mormon (or is celibate for religious reasons).

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If you have to help the guy marry you by buying your own engagement ring, loaning him money to get it, taking him to the stores, making appointments, etc.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he makes no moves to introduce you to his family and friends.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he is married.

Sis, he's just not that into you. (He's not even into his wife, how could he be into you.)

If you had a great date and he doesn't call you shortly after (within two days).

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If you find yourself making excuses for why he doesn't do things like show up, be on time, give you gifts, take you out, meet your family, or do anything that would make you happy.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he doesn't financially take care of the children that you and he made together.

Sis, he's just not that into you (or the kids).

If he has no interest in your career.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he consistently misses important events or makes excuses not to show up.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he is cheap with you.

Sis, he's just not that into you. (Even the biggest tightwad becomes extremely generous when in love.)

If he cheats on you.

Sis, he's just not that into you.

If he claims he is too busy with work to pursue a relationship with you or be there for you.

Sis, he's just not that into you. (Men make time for what they want.)

If a man claims he has a hard time being with you because of a divorce, "Bad timing,"  a former relationship or some other commitment.

Sis, he's just not that into you. (As long as it's the right woman, it will always be the right time.)

If you find yourself talking to your girlfriends (over and over) about this guy you just can't understand because he says he wants a relationship (or loves you) but...

Sis, he's just not that into you.

The bottom line is that men in love (or even deep like) will exceed your expectations.  I remember telling a former coworker about my husband (before we married) and she said "Now that's a man with a destination." And that's exactly the point, men in love have a destination. They move toward commitment, oneness, and are crystal clear about the women they love. Their actions are very precise and they want you to know without a shadow of a doubt that you are "the one."

One guy yesterday talked about women that are:

Tier 1: Prime choice women. These are the ones that get called early in the week (Monday or Tuesday for a Saturday date) or even weeks in advance because the guy wants to ensure the date is confirmed. The date is always well planned. A guy pursuing a Tier 1 woman will seek to impress her, wine her and dine her because she is special.

Tier 2: 2nd Choice. They are called Thursday or Friday after the guy finds out that the Tier 1 woman is busy.

Tier 3: 3rd Choice. They are called on the way to the club as a last resort. If everyone above says no, the guy feels like spending time with a Tier 3 is better than nothing.

Tier 4: Booty Call. They get called after the guy leaves the club. The guy doesn't even think this kind of woman is worth the entrance fee.

Make sure you and the women that you know commit to being "prime choice."

We all deserve to be treated like the queens we are.

Take good care of yourself,

geez..lol

My husband and I had a big talk yesterday....Asked him why he married me in the first place and as he said"he loved me alot...we had fun together...I turned him on...I didn't play him ...etc,etc" Then we discussed if we would stay together or not...well we're going to try. But was funny we got discussing sex and it was brought up why some men like to j.o for women and why he did....he says that besides sex is a intimate thing to do for your woman or watch her...then I asked him the big question lol I asked him why guys like to j.o on women? I was like shit ya'll leave us the wet spot,.,.,why on us? He brought up how a woman with childbearing hips etc men looked for and I was like no...why do men like to or feel the need to j.o on their woman. Well after asking him the question several times he finally said "I don't know..."

Also came out that I have realized that due to a painful breakup before him had put up a big wall with any man. Got that attitude...Bitch tattoo'd on me etc...Then like I asked him why he didn't try anymore...and he was like because you were so cold toward me why try anymore? Ya know I am surprised he hadn't cheated on me and don't believe every man does or will....I told him I feel having that wall up that I have missed out on alot of what he tried in the beginning. Will I stand my own? Yes...but I have also come to the conclusion that he loved that I stood up for myself but because of men in my past I didn't even give him a chance. Alot of us have been cheated on, beat etc and have strong walls up and alot of anger inside when it comes to the men. Well like LMM showed us in the "I cried today thread"...there are some good ones out there. I remember the days where my husband would put post it notes all over the house etc saying he loved me or follow the trail...that stopped. Maybe I am rambling and I am sure there will be a woman or two that will disagree and I hope for their sakes they learn to bring their walls down a lil or lose out on a chance of that good guy slipping through their fingers/

Just my two cents for the day...

Harley

oh and LMM...You Go Girl!!

My kid came home from school one day,
with this silly grin upon his face.
He thought he was smarter than me,
and could put me in my place.
HE SAID:
Guess what I learned in Civics class,
that's taught by Mr. Wright?
It's about the laws of the land,
its called:
THE CHILDREN'S BILL OF RIGHTS.
IT SAYS:
I don't have to clean my room,
I don't have to cut my hair.
Nobody can tell me what to eat,
My freedom of speech is guaranteed.
Its my choice of what I read, or watch on TV.

I can wear an earring in my ear,
And, if I want, can pierce my nose.
It's my choice if I so desire
to tattoo numbers across my toes.
AND if you try to spank me,
I will charge you with the crime,
and I can back up all my charges,
with the marks on my behind.

Don't ever touch me, this body is only for my use,
not for your hugs and kisses and stuff,
that's just another form of child abuse.

Don't fill my head with morals,
like your mama did to you.
That's what's called mind control,
And it's illegal too!
Mom, I have these children's rights.
You can't do a thing to me,
or I can call Children's Services.
Better known as C. S. D.

MY TURN!!!!
My very first impression was,
to toss this boy out the door.
But here was a chance to teach him a lesson,
for once and ever more.
I took my time and mulled it over.
I couldn't let this go.
This kid of mine didn't realize,
that he was messing with a pro!
AND AWAY WE GO.............
The next day we went shopping,
and in spite of every plea,
I didn't buy him 501s or shirts designed by Nike.
I had called and talked to C. S. D.,
they said they didn't care,
if I bought him K-Mart shoes,
or a pair of Nike Airs.
AND THEN:
I canceled his appointment to test his driving skills,
You'd think that he would have noticed
that the road he chose is all up hill.
I SAID:
There's no time to stop and eat,
or pick up stuff to munch.
I think you should follow my advice Son,
And make yourself a sack lunch.
So what, if you are too hungry,
to wait 'til dinner time.
We're having liver and onions,
Cause it's a favorite dish of mine.
HE ASKED:
Can we stop to get a movie,
so I can watch it on the VCR?
Absolutely not!
I sold the TV in your room
and bought new tires for my car.
I also rented out your room,
you really don't need a bed.
C.S.D. says all that's required of me
is to put a roof over your head.
I only have to buy your clothes,
and the food that you must eat.
The money you used to get for an allowance,
will now buy me something neat.
No more eating after we shop,
no more joking along the way.
For I too have a BILL OF RIGHTS,
that goes into effect today!
What's the matter, are you crying?
Are you down on your knees?
Why are you asking Dad for help?.........
WHY NOT CALL THE C.S.D.?

A strong woman works out every day to keep her body in shape...
but a woman of strength kneels in prayer to keep her soul in shape...

A strong woman isn't afraid of anything...
but a woman of strength shows courage in the midst of her fear...

A strong woman won't let anyone get the best of her...
but a woman of strength gives the best of her to everyone...

A strong woman walks sure footedly...
but a woman of strength knows God will catch her if she falls...

A strong woman wears the look of confidence on her face...
but a woman of strength wears grace...

A strong woman has faith that she is strong enough for the journey...
but a woman of strength has faith that it is in the journey that she will become strong...

Author Unknown

She had the right idea lol

actually harley bandanas lol I collect them and yea that pic isn’t normally so tiny lol

the booted out husband and my wedding day 5 1/2 yrs ago...

Miss Priss...You can do it! Trust me you can...3 months ago I wou;ldn't have been able to say that...but can now. Married to a habitual liar...like I told him at counseling last tues..he's in his own little world and sad thing is he believes what he's saying. I like you and the ladies here can tell you..was crying, couldn't sleep....was tossing and turning all nite...sat in the house and said i couldn't do it. Took kicking him out to relearn myself. Damn when you get down and start thinking alot of soul searching starts happening. I was literally breaking down...friends said if I continued it would end up killing me. Funny he's still lying to the counselor...nah he's not back. But I had to put my thoughts elsewhere than worrying about what happened with him and the downfalls. Now signing up for college, looking for a new job, state paid bills, know what I want in life and for once concentrating on learning me and not what he did in my life. So if at 38 yrs old I can do it...took a long time so can you. Look back at the things you wish you had always tried or done and concentrate on how to do those things now. You'll find you relearn your old goals that they will become new again and hon you'll start being at peace with yourself and not worrying about him.

First time since I was 19 yrs old I am at peace and damn it feels good. I hope and pray for you that you can find it too.

MissPriss...yvw...trust me hon...like mine told the counselor...that I throw things, cut him down, get drunk everynight...abuse him,,,and this is coming from a man that has been arrested 3 times for drunkeness and abusive behavior! But that's all a lie he says and the cops doctored up the reports to make him sound like the bad guy! It's just killing him that I am making it...so trust me the best revenge you can get on your ex is to survive,...make things good for yourself and show it off. They can't stand it!! In the long run you'll be better for it all...funny how a man's fuckups can sometimes turn things around to the best for you..because it's the anger they produce in you that motivates you.

Not crying over either. probally get crap for saying this but didn't vote. Not going to feel obligated to vote for either when I can't stand either one of them. Kerry...grant it he has a non american born wife, wondered where the hell she was, unlike Bush he didn't introduce his wife to the US proudly. I think Bush fucked up when it came to Iraq...but I don't feel Kerry would've done the war justice either. They also said Kerry didn't wasted alot of his time in the south...worked mainly in the north. When it comes to Church and State , being a minister's daughter was raised to choose Republican...but in the long run I vote for the one I believe in...and I don't let anyone else make that choice for me.

Pro-Choice......better not be Catholic because the Catholic Church is against abortion. Friend of mine got condemned by the Catholic church for having a abortion. I am Pro Choice tho don't think about it much anymore due to the fact not having anymore kids anyhow.

When it came to young adults voting...MTV was on the news saying they had more young adult votes than they ever expected. Could've been more but more than 20 million young adults voted. Will I encourage my kids to vote when they reach 18...yes but only if they believe in the person and not because someone says it is your obligations.

I feel Bush has hurt the economy and has put the US in more poverty than it has been in yrs...unemployment sucks!

We have a Democratic Governer here in Michigan and she has brought the state down really bad...we're at the highest unemployment rate since the early 80's... The poverty level is so bad here even the food bank is turning people away. The state has run out of funds and food to help the people here.

So honestly not going to cry over all of this...it's happened...get over it and not a damn thing I can do to change it. Life is stressful enough to worry about something someone is going to fuck up and nothing I can do about it. Honestly I haven't liked a president since Reagan. Tho I did vote for Ross Perot when he ran...The man had business sense and I think would've done the US a world of good...shoot the man was richer than the US is...

Poor wife??? If her husband dick was so small he could fuck a chicken...then she can do much, much better!

Sorry couldn't resist on this one