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Topic: Who were you in past life?
Subject: Who were you in past life? - Posted: 5/17/2007 8:01:22 AM

rosie the rivitor


Topic: deleting my account
Subject: deleting my account - Posted: 4/12/2008 8:21:47 AM
that was the oh my god most emotiona‘ thing ever! it took me about 3 hours last night and i have been on for an hour at least finishing up... now if i could just delete this damn photo

Topic: shortest fairy tale
Subject: shortest fairy tale - Posted: 4/13/2008 12:12:32 PM
Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl ‘Will you marry me?‘

The girl said: ‘NO!‘

 

And the girl lived happily ever after and went shopping, dancing,
> camping, drank martinis, ate chocolate, always had a clean house, never
> had to cook, did whatever the hell she wanted, never argued, didn‘t have
> to worry about her weight, traveled more, had many lovers, didn‘t save
> money, and had all the hot water to herself. She went to the theater,
> never watched sports, never wore uncomfortable lacy lingerie, had high
> self esteem, never cried or yelled, felt and looked fabulous in sweat
> pants and was pleasant all the time.


> The End.  



Topic: ya‘ll will like this one
Subject: ya‘ll will like this one - Posted: 4/15/2008 7:59:34 AM

Two sisters, one blonde and one brunette, inherit the family ranch.
Unfortunately, after just a few years, they are in financial trouble. In order to keep the bank from repossessing the ranch, they need to purchase a bull from the stockyard in Ft Worth so they can breed their own stock.

They only have $600 left.

Upon leaving, the brunette tells her sister, "When
I get there, if I decide to buy the bull, I‘ll contact you to drive out after me and haul it home."

The brunette arrives at the stockyard, inspects the bull,
and decides she wants to buy it. The man tells her he will sell it for $599, no less.

After paying him, she drives to the nearest town to send her sister a telegram to tell her the news. She walks into the
telegraph office, and says, "I want to send a telegram to my sister telling her that I‘ve bought a bull for our ranch. I need her to hitch the trailer to our pickup truck and drive out here so we can haul it home.

The telegraph operator explains that he‘ll be glad to
help her, and then adds, "It‘s just 99 cents a word".

Well, after paying for the bull, the brunette only has
$1.00 left. She realizes that she‘ll only be able to send her sister one word. After a few minutes of thinking, she nods and says, "I want you to send her the word ‘comfortable‘".

The operator shakes his head. "How is she ever
going to know that you want her to hitch the trailer to your pickup truck and drive out here to haul that bull back to your ranch if you send her just the word "comfortable?

The brunette explains, "My sister‘s blonde. The word‘s
big. She‘ll read it very slowly .. com-for-da-bull.

 

Topic: narcissim article
Subject: narcissim article - Posted: 4/15/2008 9:07:26 AM

Narcisisstic Personality Disorder

I was surprised to learn about this disorder after searching the web for answers to a friend‘s confusing behavior, and thought I should post it as a warning to others:
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Healthy Narcissism is something we all can use. It‘s having a healthy self-esteem. It‘s what makes us pick ourselves up after experiencing failure and going on towards the next goal. It‘s what gives us the ability to help each other, and to love someone - as we already know how to love ourselves.

Yet, Pathological Narcissism is an ironic twist of this healthy state. Outwardly, it appears that these people love themselves too much - to the exclusion of anyone else. It is as if they are God himself and those around them must recognize their omnipotence, supreme knowledge, and absolute entitlement and power. Rules don‘t apply to them. They have an unrealistic and overblown sense of self, often without the credentials to match, as well as fantasies of unlimited power, success, and/or brilliance. They are interpersonally exploitive and have absolutely no understanding of empathy or compassion.

They are neither kind nor benevolent gods. And those who live with them end up paying the price.

While there is a range of narcissistic behaviors lying between level 1 and 10 on this scale, one doesn‘t need to have full-blown NPD to do incredible damage to those in the inner circle.

While victims of Narcissists are generally codependents, most have no idea how they got in this situation, because in the early stages of the relationship the Narcissistic person can be the most charming, Academy Award winning actor or actress (according to the DSM-IV, 50-75% of narcissists are men), of the century.

The early days of the dating is fast, furious, and vastly romantic. Oftentimes marriage proposals come within a few weeks. The "victim" sees the narcissist as the "Perfect Partner". She‘s never met someone so wonderful in her lifetime and falls head-over-heels in love. The two go on to live happily ever after - or so she thinks - until the "real" partner surfaces. The once wonderful Dr. Jekyll turns into the dangerous Mr. Hyde who quickly instills fear, anxiety, uncertainty, and total confusion to the relationship.

The change can be quick and powerful or slow and insidious.

We are all way too familiar with overt narcissists: those abusive husbands who send thousands of battered women to the emergency room each year. They feel it is their God-given right to beat, abuse, and otherwise threat their partner in whatever method they deem necessary and no one can tell them otherwise.

Then there is the verbally abusive and controlling narcissist � the one who uses emotional abuse as his weapon of choice. He tells his victim who she can see, what time she needs to be home, and when she can go to bed. Or in the case of Jamie, whose husband makes her recite every day, "I‘m only worth 29 cents - the price of a bullet," he erodes her self-worth to nothing to keep her under his control.

Who else could possible want such a worthless woman as she? With that belief, she will never leave him for good, although she makes many brief attempts to do so. She always returns. The brainwashing that continues day after day is emotionally exhausting, draining, and vastly unhealthy.

Yet almost worse is the "Stealth Narcissist," so sinister and silent in his ability to drive his partner crazy that she doesn‘t suspect anything bad is happening until it‘s too late. He is the master of the little digs � "Honey, why on earth would you cook eggs in butter? NO ONE does it that way. What‘s wrong with you?" Or, "If you‘d only do what I say then we‘d both be happy."

He issues the "silent treatment" when he is slighted, punishing his family by ignoring them for hours, leaving them wondering what they did "wrong" to make him act this way. He may "forget" birthday or Christmas presents, year after year. He may show up hours late and his partner is just supposed to understand, with no explanation even offered. He may have another woman on the side and feel quite entitled to do so.

Yet, to those outside his inner kingdom he looks like a saint. He probably is president of the Rotary, volunteers at a food bank, and contributes regularly to charity � all to attain the image of being the admired Superman of his community.

No matter which type of narcissist he is, the end result is the same � a slow, insidious, breaking down of the self-esteem of his victims until there‘s next to nothing left, at which point, the narcissist will frequently throw his partner out in order to look for someone new and full of life to make his next target. Leaving his victim an emotional wreck wondering what she did to destroy their once "perfect" relationship.

The Narcissist himself rarely changes. After all, if you believe you‘re God-like, you must be perfect. Why should you change your behavior for anyone else? Yet the biggest secret is that deep inside, he loathes himself, and is desperate that no one find out who the "real" person is inside his tough, outer shell.

Victims are not only spouses. They can be coworkers, employees, children, or friends of narcissists. When the narcissist is the victim‘s mother, it‘s a difficult spot to be in, as most children (even grown children) find it almost impossible to leave the relationship. And the abuse continues for years.

However, when the narcissist is your patient‘s boss, coworker, or friend, it may be wise to counsel the victim to seek a new situation elsewhere to best avoid an emotional roller coaster ride that could lead to extreme health issues down the road.

How can you help those with Narcissism Victim Syndrome? First, by asking questions to determine what is going on in their environment. Health care professionals already know the effect that stress has on so many of us, but the added stress of living with a narcissist is rarely understood or recognized by the victims themselves. Knowledge is power and by asking the right questions about their situation, you might be able to help them begin to better recognize their problem and seek help.

You can help them quit being victims, quit blaming themselves for all that‘s wrong in their relationships, gain knowledge of this disorder, and regain their personal power. Help them to seek counseling from a therapist knowledgeable about narcissism, (not all are, and few fully understand victim issues at all - see www.helpfromsurvivors.com), in order to rebuild their shattered self-esteem and stop looking and acting like a caged animal.

Help them find hope, before years of stuffing their anger due to this abusive treatment, leads them to venting in unhealthy ways, sometimes leading to domestic violence and police intervention. Help them to stop looking like the sick one in the relationship and to start down the road of being a survivor and no longer a victim. Help them escape symptoms of depression that may, in some cases, lead to suicide.

Learn all you can about the "Narcissism Victim Syndrome". You might light a glimmer of hope for someone who‘s just barely hanging on for dear life.


Topic: narcissim article
Subject: narcissim article - Posted: 4/15/2008 9:09:02 AM

The narcissist analyses (and internalizes) everything in terms of blame and guilt, superiority and inferiority, gain (victory) and loss (defeat) and the resulting matrix of narcissistic supply. Narcissists are binary contraptions.

Thus, the formula is very simple:

1. Shift the blame to yourself ("I don‘t know what happened to me, I have changed, it is my fault, I am to blame for this, you are constant, reliable and consistent).

Tell him you feel guilty (excruciatingly so, in great and picturesque detail).

Tell him how superior he is and how inferior you feel.

Make this separation your loss and his absolute, unmitigated gain.

Convince him that he is likely to gain more supply from others (future women?) than he ever did or will from you.

BUT

Make clear that your decision - though evidently "erroneous" and "pathological" - is FINAL, irrevocable and that all contact is to be severed henceforth.

And never leave ANYTHING in writing.

The only way is NO CONTACT ever again. Do not fool yourself during lonely moments and make excuses to see the N. Not even to rub his face into how good you look and are doing. Dont because they have a way of tearing you down once they see you moving on. And until you are completely over him/her you can be persuaded even when you dont think so, if they push the right buttons.

The person I was involved with did this over and over. Each time I felt more deflated and weak. Until I finally had enough and ended all contact. He saw me doing well and followed me to my car one day. Oh he acted so casual like it was a mere coincidence running into me. He then proceeeded to chat me up in such a non chalont way and i wanted his approval. WITHIN TWO HOURS he was being mean and saying horrible things to me. He saw that I was hooked in again and pounced!

I finally at that moment looked at him and said this will be the last time we ever talk. I told him he was a coward and it was time for me to let him go. He has since tried to get my attention by resorting to childish and pathetic manouveres. I ignore him. I dont show hate, love, like, anger, pity. I show NOTHING. It enrages him.

I guarantee he has moved on and is already in the process of wrecking someones life. Im fortunate that I finally got a backbone and told him to get lost. I have stayed away from him.

Tell yourself at these weak moments that what you will get back is the same old misery. Except it will be even worse. I guarantee he or she will will be furious that you ended the relationship/marriage and they will see it as payback time. Then he/she will attempt to wear you down even more.

Do not wait for the time to arrive (and it will if you stay) that you lose yourself completely. Right now it may feel like your self esteem and pride is gone. However you can get these back by staying away from the N. However if you take them back you may lose these things for good and never bounce back.

Stay away from misery. Life is too short.

Leave them alone and ask God to protect you from them.

You will have to be strong to follow the instructions mentioned above. You will have to remind yourself constantly of the grief and heartbreak. They want to hook back up for more of your devotion and support. Narcissists don‘t like feeling unimportant. Getting them to leave you alone requires you to be on guard to their ways. This website is a blessing! You may still be drawn to them until you finally really get it. All they can really care about is their make-believe self. One more thing - NEVER LET THEM BACK INTO YOUR LIFE! If you must, love from afar.

The narcissist doesn‘t conceive himself as of our kind: What god with nothing but contempt for mere mortals does? So, expect no more regard for your feelings from his alien mentality than you should expect from an extra-terrestrial who abducts you to use as a specimen for an experiment. No more than a lamb should expect from a wolf, a mouse from a cat, a baby seal from a killer whale, or a cockroach from you.



Topic: narcissim article
Subject: narcissim article - Posted: 4/15/2008 9:09:16 AM

Over the last 2 months I have compiled bits of information all over the web on this subject to help my friend, and she‘s doing much better because of it. It‘s not in any particular order, but I hope it helps someone. Knowledge is Power - Remember, Protect yourself!
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You are never going to have a stable relationship with a narcissist. There are always going to be problems, they are never going to be satisfied with anything. No matter how much you sacrifice for them, try to please them, make changes in your own personality for them, they will never be happy, because they are not happy with themselves. And oh, how soon do they forget the things that they have done to hurt you!! Or downplay some of the things that they have done to hurt you. If anyone is in a relationship with a narcissist, RUN LIKE CRAZY.
"Narcissists are accustomed to loss. Their obnoxious personality and intolerable behaviors makes them lose friends and spouses, mates and colleagues, jobs and family."

"If some man were to say to your daughter: ‘Here‘s the deal, sweetie. For several months or so, I‘m going to pretend to be everything you ever wanted. I‘ll shower you with attention, affection and all manner of stuff to make you feel special. Then, once I know you‘re depending on me as your significant other, and have made a commitment, I‘m going to quit pretending and be who I really am. I‘m going to start treating you really badly, I‘ll say insensitive things, I‘ll lie, I‘ll cheat, I‘ll be really cruel, possibly humiliate you in public. Hey, I might even beat you. Your job will be to figure out what happened and do everything in your power to restore the relationship to what it was, until you either die, try to kill yourself, or collapse and get sent to hospital, which will be pretty funny because there‘s no chance whatsoever I‘ll ever pretend to be that ‘nice guy‘ again – and by the way, it WAS a pretence. So what do you say, sweetie? Do we have a deal? Several years of hell in exchange for a few months of fantasy?‘

If your daughter whipped out the pen to ink the deal, you‘d smack her and say, ‘What are you, NUTS? This guy‘s a lunatic!!!‘ Right? But that IS the deal. That is the contract. If that contract wouldn‘t be nearly good enough for your daughter, why would it be good enough for you?"

So, if you are the victim of the narcissist, what kind of life can you look forward to?

You will be required to deny your self – your hopes, your dreams, your fears, your aspirations, your needs, your friends and All of your male friends especially, your emotional needs, and sometimes your material needs. You will be asked to deny reality and ignore it. It is very disorientating. Most victims feel that they are going crazy or that they are guilty of something obscure, opaque, and ominous. It is Kafkaesque: an endless, on-going trial without clear laws, known procedures, and identified judges. It is nightmarish."

Of course narcissist play games with our feelings. They have none of their own so they enjoy hurting others. Your feelings mean nothing to them. You aren‘t even a person. Play games is putting what they do mildly.

...that‘s ALL they do. This keeps you off-balance and perpetually insecure. When a Narcissist senses that you are getting secure enough with the relationship for your emotions to start settling down and your self-esteem to begin a sort of recovery, then watch out -- you have a torturous scene in your near future.

"The brutal change in him was all the more shocking because of what he had appeared to be. The devaluation was indescribable, unnerving, frightening. His Narcisstic rages used to burst forth several times a day. I found I was married to a total stranger, a Jekyll and Hyde who sometimes looked at me as if he didn‘t even know me. Exhausting is an understatement – it was like clinging to the edge of a cliff 24 hours a day."

"Narcissists are great con-artists. After all, they succeed in deluding themselves! As a result, very few professionals see through them."

"I keep stressing that people with NPD do not present with the traits of their disorder. Far from it. How could any normal person take up with someone who had his NPD traits on show at the outset of a relationship? I suppose my husband had lots of practice, and had his supply-hunting tactics down to a fine art. This is the case with the real thing, full-blown NPD."

"I feel like I have extricated myself from a cult. I stood there thinking: ‘He can‘t mean it‘. I had the shudders, my skin was crawling. This N-from-hell exuded pure evil. About every three months I‘d hear about some treachery he was inflicting on someone, somewhere."

"They think they are untouchable, inhabitants of a special world, one parallel to ours but never touching. Outlandish behavior is the N‘s hallmark. N‘s count on our shame to keep their secrets. They know that exposing them means exposing our own failings. That‘s what makes them so powerful. They manipulate us into these situations then sit back and watch us squirm between protecting ourselves or blowing the whistle."

"You have to live through the horror of the N experience to be able to understand it. People say: ‘But he‘s mad about you‘. The only pertinent word in that sentence is ‘mad‘."

"The relationship with the N was too good to be true. They want something from you. When you finally wake up and confront them on their bad behavior, it‘s something you do, for yourself. You get it off your chest. When the N asks how you are doing, they are taking your emotional temperature to see if you are reacting, because they are looking for that reaction from you. When you finally give them a piece of your mind, they‘re not even listening. Nothing you will ever say to that person will make a difference."

"Yes I told him exactly what I think of him, his lies, his deceit, his lack of emotions, he is just an image not a real person … and I realize that not only did this not bother him, it actually made him feel great! He knows that he has a dramatic impact on my feelings and since he won‘t let me love him anymore, now he makes me hate him. This must really make him feel like he‘s one damn special and unforgettable person!"

"I went back to him a dozen times, each time somehow thinking it was different, that maybe now that we had addressed all the issues and brought everything into the open, and he admitted he had treated me badly … it would change. And it WOULD go back to (almost) how it had been, but each time that honeymoon period would last a shorter and shorter amount of time. It absolutely wrecked me – my self-esteem has never been lower than during my years with him."

"But these qualities, are indeed ‘charm‘. The proof of the power of this brand of charm is that you, and I, both women who are probably reasonably alert, failed to see through this well-constructed mask."

"I have never met anyone more evil than he is. It‘s the kind of evil that masquerades as good."

"It was the losing of myself that caused me the most anguish. I could feel it, like a brain washing, like a vampire, and he claimed he didn‘t know anything was wrong, didn‘t know what I meant when I said I was sad all the time and couldn‘t trust a word he said."

"I have always felt like they did this on purpose – like they were the most cunning people I‘ve encountered to orchestrate all this turmoil, but through this Web site, I‘ve come to learn that I‘m wrong and that there truly are deeper reasons an N acts out like they do. The key for you is to learn as much as you can as fast as you can, and protect yourself financially and emotionally. Not too many people survive the devastation of a tornado."

"NPD is actually quite simple. When they want supply (adoration/veneration) they put on the whole show to obtain that supply. As the supply wanes, because no one can sustain all the time that high-octane adoration the Narcissist requires, then the N begins to get uneasy and devaluation sets in, followed by confusion and bewilderment on the part of the spouse/partner, who thinks s/he has done everything ‘right‘."

"The withdrawal from my N has been terrible and hard on me but it is getting better. I no longer have anger and rage and my mind is settling down. And I no longer think of him 24 hours of the day. I never thought that would ever happen just a couple of months ago."

"My ex-N would constantly talk about himself. Every type of conversation, somehow always came back to him talking about him. He never got it. He would quickly turn the conversation back to himself."

"If we went to social things, he would not talk to me all night. He would need to be the centre of attention in some group. Usually women."

"He will have a new female N supplier ASAP and you can bet he‘ll be parading her in front of you too."

"I wish I could offer you any encouragement with your NPD loved one, but in the 11 years I‘ve dealt with them in my life, I‘ve only known grief, lies, distorted realities, schemes, chaos. I often feel like they sit in the eye of a self-created tornado and watch their loved ones circling around in total chaos, and if the winds ever die down, they find a way to get them whirling again."

"My ex-boyfriend seemed for nearly six months to be a kind, caring, supportive person … and then did a 180. Trashing me with Extremely rude and cruel behavior, calculated to cause me extreme pain."

"If you want something to cry about, cry for the N‘s new victim(s), the innocent, unmarked, un-inoculated prey. The victims are carefully chosen, and I feel sad for them."

"In fact I didn‘t even realize how badly he was abusing me. I didn‘t know that all of the alienation from my friends and family were forms of abuse. Which made me even feel more victimized when I put two and two together."

"The abuse doesn‘t happen because the victims volunteer for it. The abuse happens because the abusers lie, manipulate and speak in mixed messages, and out of love and a sense of fairness, we trust them."

"Towards the end of my relationship with N, he told me: ‘Your father couldn‘t break your spirit, and as hard as I‘ve tried, neither can I‘. About sums it all up wouldn‘t you say?"

"He would tell women he loved them all at the same time, keeping each woman separate from the others."

"The N has no feeling of any kind, you must absolutely remember that. Any ‘feelings‘ or emotions shown are like those put on by an actor on stage. They look good, but are only an act."

"The person with NPD is unpredictable, that is part of the disorder. Their world is a heaving, restless, unquiet place, full of anxieties and unknown quantities. And when they withdraw the ‘caring‘ and the ‘loving‘ and start on the devaluation stage, then the contrast is so appalling that we are wrecked, unable to understand (at this stage most of us had never heard of NPD) so naturally we thought we were at fault in some way."

"You cannot understand his mind, the disordered mind, because you are normal. How could you? You can believe it – he is not real, and nothing is real to him. That is his tragedy."

"Anyway, the uneasy was always there for me too. It was just easy to ignore in the beginning. As I got to know him, the uneasiness shifted to a feeling of walking on eggshells since I never knew what action or word I might do would trip over one of his innumerable emotional landmines."

"He is a very insecure (and insanely jealous) man, but he is also a dreadful coward. The Ns usually are. What a polished piece of work! I swear I met the devil."

"What I‘m wondering right now is … in the beginning when he was treating me like a Queen, was there a hidden agenda there? Was it always in the back of his mind that he would soon unleash the hidden fury to hurt me? He acts like I am ‘the one‘, the ‘kindred friend‘ that he‘s never had before. Is this all a lie? I seem to be hanging on to the hope that it will be different for me. Am I fooling myself?"

"Does he want to hurt you? Well, now, that would imply that he thinks of you as a human being – an N doesn‘t. What he wants is to secure supply. If he cannot do it by means of flattery, he will do it by means of cruelty. The goal is to get you to give him what he wants. He doesn‘t especially care which method he uses, so long as he finds one that works. I know that sounds cold. It is cold. That is the mind of a narcissist. Cold and devoid of empathy. Because he lacks empathy, he probably doesn‘t know or care if he hurts you, unless he‘s using bullying as a technique for extracting NS from you. Even then, he couldn‘t care less what that does to you, apart from eliciting the desired response.

If it makes him feel better about himself to belittle you, he will do that, but the ultimate goal isn‘t to make you feel bad, the goal is perpetuate the myth of his own perfection and simultaneously control you. If by hurting you it gets you in check, makes you take on his failings as your own, and make you work twice as hard for his approval, it‘s a bonus for him. If he doesn‘t need to employ cruelty in order to accomplish either of the above goals, he won‘t. It‘s that simple."

"Who would not assume s/he was so lucky to have met this wonderful, caring individual. Nothing wrong with that. It is when the cannon-ball of devaluation hits you that the horror of the situation begins to dawn, but you cannot work out why. Naturally, you assume (because you think within normal parameters) that your partner/spouse is ill, has encountered a serious problem (work, finances), is maybe physically ill. Because you have never heard of NPD you do not, indeed cannot, know about the idealization-devaluation process."

"In my view, the function of Narcissistic Accumulation is equivalent to the replacement of objects. This means that narcissists live with their spouse only as long as she fully caters to their narcissistic needs through accumulation and adoration. His misogyny and his sadism are a result of his fear of being abandoned (the recreation of earlier traumas) and not a result of narcissism. A narcissist with an ideal, sadistic, rigid, primitive, and punishing Superego inevitably becomes antisocial and lacking in morals and in conscience.""

The narcissist treats women the way he does in order to weaken them and to make them dependent on him so as to prevent them from abandoning him. He uses a variety of techniques to pulverize all their foci of strength: a healthy sexuality, family, career, self-esteem and self-image, mental health, reality test, and social circles. Once devoid of all these, he remains their only available source of authority, interest, meaning, feeling and hope. A woman thus deprived will be highly unlikely to leave him. This state of emotional addiction is created by unpredictable behaviors, which cause reactions of fear and phobic hesitation.

That‘s who they are. Playing games with you makes them feel alive, it is a thrill. They like to think they are pulling the wool over your eyes. The games increase and its hard to imagine a person is so cruel. They go from being sweet to cold hearted cruelty. They do things like saying stuff to keep you off balance. They make you think their feelings for you are dwindling because you‘re not worth much.

They will avoid any situation where you get more attention. They seek to destroy you. Its not that they are just insecure, these people actually WANT and PLAN to take away your self worth. They THRIVE on your agony. I remember telling the Narcissist I was with that I loved him. I remember he looked so happy and was smiling but then said, "this is wrong, I don‘t love you". He didn‘t call for a week or two, then came back saying he didn‘t mean it and didn‘t say all of that! Then he would say that he is going away and I found out he sat at home. He would tell me he didn‘t like me too much but then would follow me when I would go out.

This dynamic is a constant, but other games are intermittent, depending upon whether or not you manage to piss him off. Then the gaslighting begins, and that is more frightening because it is pre-meditated sadism. You don‘t want to believe it‘s happening. How could someone you love be so cruel? It must be you. Your perceptions, your memory, your gut reactions -- they must be wrong. If you are really sucked in you would rather believe that you are crazy than know that this person that you have given yourself to is torturing you. Deliberately.

Dear questioner, if you are asking the question, you are feeling the torment, and you need to get OUT.

Do they play games with your feelings??? That is what they do best!!!!! I was in two narcissistic relationships, the last one really took me thru the ringer...after standing me up for so many dates, which he would plan and then not show up or answer my call to find out where he was, and along with so many other things he did to me, I said FORGET THIS!!! There were plenty of times he would do things to intentionally upset me for his own sick pleasure. I started to wise up to him, and the key was to not get angry or show that I was hurt by his actions . When I didn‘t get angry anymore he actually looked very lost and confused!!!! He even said: "Usually when I do this you get really angry! Why are you in such a jovial mood today?

Scary!!!

His feelings were so easily turned on and off, which always seemed so odd to me. His affection and tender words would make me feel so special to him, then his actions didn‘t match his words and caused me great pain. It was so confusing, and looking back, his intentional ways kept me guessing and insecure with whether he cared for me or not.

It was weird how he would get off with his power trips. He loved controlling my moods whether happy or sad. Plus he was so selfish that as long as his needs were met things were fine, but as soon as I had needs to be met, he couldn‘t handle that because of his N self centeredness. That�s when he would do his game playing so he would gain control and get his way.

First, get over the excitement of seeing him again. It may be flattering, perhaps sexually arousing. Try to overcome these feelings.
Then, simply ignore him. Don‘t bother to respond in any way to his offer to get together. If he talks to you � keep quiet, don‘t answer. If he calls you � listen politely and then say goodbye and hang up. Indifference is what the narcissist cannot stand. It indicates a lack of attention and interest that constitutes the kernel of negative NS.

There are some real freaks out there, and narcissists are one of them. For all the women out there: chin up, and don‘t put up with these a**holes. Get out of the abusive relationships - because trust me, you can do so much better than that. The narcissists are sick people, and do you really want to be in love with a psychological psycho?

Oh, one more suggestion: I know it‘s hard to let go of someone you love, even though they abuse you. I admit - it‘s hard for me too: the push-off-pull-back cycle has been going on for almost 2 years now. My new strategy is to pretend that the guy is dead. He had a horrible motorcycle accident (Harley is his thing), and he scratched his beautiful face so ugly, and died. I know it‘s horrible to think that way, and, no I do not wish it for him or anybody, but I must think of him somehow as non-existent. So, he either died, relocated to a different country, or he is gay. He is just simply not available.

They kick you when you‘re down. They kick you when you‘re up. These "creatures" do not know how to love.

IT IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL WITH A NARCISSIST. They are in control and feel power when they upset you. They are in control when they see that they have hurt your feelings. They live and thrive off of your emotions. When you show them that you love and care for them, they use that to their advantage. They will tear you apart mentally and emotionally one minute, and love you the next. Your pet peeves that they know about will be used as weapons against you, purely for their joy of seeing you upset. They know how you will react to certain things, and they love to see and hear your pain. It‘s just like being trained. This is what I went through, and I finally decided that if he wanted to be in control and train someone to do or act a certain way on his command or by his actions, then he should get a DOG.

Yes, and they know they‘re doing it. But they don‘t care one bit. It gives them a source of satisfaction to see you pushed and pulled all over the place by them. They think it‘s clever that they have more power over you than anyone else you know; even your dying mother. And they love it cause they feed off it. And look, you can‘t win. Don‘t be thinking you can please these people in any way. There will always be something wrong. You might hit jackpot a couple of times and get a ‘thankyou‘, a smile or a night of great sex but be warned that these things can be withdrawn as miraculously as they appeared. And you will be the reason why because you will have not washed the dishes properly or you bought the wrong birthday present. Having said this the narcissist may not even buy you a birthday present. Seems a waste of time doesn‘t it?

Few narcissists make it to self-awareness and none of them makes it to self-love.
"FINALLY, and most important of all for the partner of a narcissist: KNOW YOURSELF. What are you getting from the relationship? Are you actually a masochist?"

"In response to a life crisis (divorce, disgrace, imprisonment, accident and severe narcissistic injuries) the narcissist is likely to adopt either of two reactions:

1. He finally refers himself to therapy, realizing that something is dangerously wrong with him. Statistics show that talk therapies are rather ineffective when it comes to narcissists. Soon enough, the therapist is bored, fed up or actively repelled by the grandiose fantasies and open contempt of the narcissist. The therapeutic alliance crumbles and the narcissist emerges ‘triumphant‘ having sucked the therapist‘s energy dry.

2. He frantically gropes for alternative Sources of Narcissistic Supply. Narcissists are very creative. If all fails, they exhibitionistically make use of their own misery. Or they lie, create a fantasy, invent stories, harp on other people‘s emotions, forge a medical condition, pull a stunt, fall in ideal love with the chief nurse, make a provocative move or a crime. The narcissist is bound to come up with a surprising angle.

"Where is love in all this? Where is the commitment to the loved one‘s welfare, the discipline, the extension of oneself to incorporate the beloved, the mutual growth? Nowhere to be seen."

"Narcissists live in a state of constant rage, repressed aggression, envy and hatred. They firmly believe that everyone is like them. As a result, they are paranoid, suspicious, scared and erratic. Frightening the narcissist is a powerful behavior modification tool. If sufficiently deterred – the narcissist promptly disengages, gives up everything he was fighting for and sometimes make amends. To act effectively, one has to identify the vulnerabilities and susceptibilities of the narcissist and strike repeated, escalating blows at them – until the narcissist lets go and vanishes.

You don‘t have to do much except utter a vague reference, make an ominous allusion, delineate a possible turn of events. The narcissist will do the rest for you. He is like a little child in the dark, generating the very monsters that paralyze him with fear.

I agree that the best way to treat a narcissist is to out-narcissise him/her. Treat it like it treats you and it will vanish in a puff of smoke quicker than a witch. Narcissists are not interested – nor are they sufficiently resilient – to face opposition, disagreement, friction, conflict, in short: negative narcissistic supplies."

"Narcissists invariably react with narcissistic rage to narcissistic injury.

These two terms bear clarification:

Narcissistic injury

1. Any threat (real or imagined) to the narcissist‘s grandiose and fantastic self-perception (False Self) as perfect, omnipotent, omniscient, and entitled to special treatment and recognition, regardless of his actual accomplishments (or lack thereof).

2. The narcissist actively solicits Narcissistic Supply – adulation, compliments, admiration, subservience, attention, being feared – from others in order to sustain his fragile and dysfunctional Ego. Thus, he constantly courts possible rejection, criticism, disagreement, and even mockery.

The narcissist is, therefore, dependent on other people. He is aware of the risks associated with such all-pervasive and essential dependence. He resents his weakness and dreads possible disruptions in the flow of his drug – Narcissistic Supply. He is caught between the rock of his habit and the hard place of his frustration. No wonder he is prone to raging, lashing and acting out, and to pathological, all-consuming envy (all expressions of pent-up aggression).

The narcissist is constantly on the lookout for slights. He is hypervigilant. He perceives every disagreement as criticism and every critical remark as complete and humiliating rejection – nothing short of a threat. Gradually, his mind turns into a chaotic battlefield of paranoia and ideas of reference.

Most narcissists react defensively. They become conspicuously indignant, aggressive, and cold. They detach emotionally for fear of yet another (narcissistic) injury. They devalue the person who made the disparaging remark, the critical comment, the unflattering observation, the innocuous joke at the narcissist‘s expense.

By holding the critic in contempt, by diminishing the stature of the discordant conversant – the narcissist minimizes the impact of the disagreement or criticism on himself. This is a defense mechanism known as cognitive dissonance."

"Narcissists are misogynists. They team up with women as mere Sources of SNS (Secondary Narcissistic Supply). The woman‘s chores are to accumulate past NS and release it in an orderly manner, so as to regulate the fluctuating flow of Primary Supply."

"To live with a narcissist is an arduous and eroding task. Narcissists are atrabilious, infinitely pessimistic, bad-tempered, paranoid and sadistic in an absent-minded and indifferent manner. Their daily routine is a rigmarole of threats, complaints, hurts, eruptions, moodiness and rage. The N rails against slights true and imagined. He alienates people. He humiliates them because this is his only weapon against the humiliation of their indifference."

"There is no way out of the narcissistic catch: the narcissist despises, in equal measures, both the submissive and the independent, the strong (who constitute a threat) and the weak (who are, by definition, despicable)."

"Where normal people love others and empathize with them, the narcissist loves his False Self and identifies with it to the exclusion of all else – his True Self included."

Research shows that most narcissists are born into dysfunctional families. Such families are characterized by massive denials, both internal ("you do not have a real problem, you are only pretending") and external ("you must never tell the secrets of the family to anyone"). Abuse in all forms is not uncommon in such families. These families may encourage excellence, but only as means to a narcissistic end. The parents are usually themselves needy, emotionally immature, and narcissistic and thus unable to recognize or respect the child‘s emerging boundaries and emotional needs. This often leads to defective or partial socialization and to problems with sexual identity.

Your abuser is likely to be provoked to extremes by signs of your personal autonomy. Conceal your thoughts and plans, make no overt choices and express no preferences, never mention your emotions, needs, earnings, wages, profits, or trust money. Tell him how much you rely on him to reach the right decisions for both of you. Play dumb - but not too dumb, or it may be provoke his suspicions. It is a thin line between pleasing the abuser and rendering him a raving paranoid.

Never give your abuser cause to doubt or suspect you. Surrender all control to him, deny yourself access to property and funds, don‘t socialize, drop all your friends and hobbies, quit your job and your studies, and confine yourself to your abode. Your abuser is bound to be virulently jealous and suspect illicit liaisons between you and the least likely persons, your family included. He envies the attention you give to others, even to your common children. Place him on a pedestal and make sure he notices how you ignore, spurn, and neglect everyone else.

To your abuser, you are an object, no matter how ostensibly revered and cherished.

It is an onerous existence, consistently tiptoeing on eggshells. Neither is it invariably successful. The submissive posture delays the more egregious manifestations of abuse but cannot prevent them altogether. Choosing to live with an abuser is like opting to share a cage with a predator. No matter how domesticated, Nature is bound to prevail. You are more likely than not to end up as the abuser‘s next meal.

Unless, that is, you adopt the Conflictive Posture.

The narcissists perceives the following as threats of abandonment, even if they are not meant as such:

Confrontation, fundamental disagreement, and protracted criticism
When completely ignored
When you insist on respect for your boundaries, needs, emotions, choices, preferences
When you retaliate (for instance, shout back at him).
But is there anything you can do to avoid abusers and narcissists to start with? Are there any warning signs, any identifying marks, rules of thumbs to shield you from the harrowing and traumatic experience of an abusive relationship?
Imagine a first or second date. You can already tell,

Here‘s how:

Perhaps the first telltale sign is the abuser‘s alloplastic defenses – his tendency to blame every mistake of his, every failure, or mishap on others, or on the world at large. Be tuned: does he assume personal responsibility? Does he admit his faults and miscalculations? Or does he keep blaming his parents, the cab driver, the waiter, the weather, the government, or fortune for his predicament?

Is he hypersensitive, picks up fights, feels constantly slighted, injured, and insulted? Does he rant incessantly about injustices at his job? Is his language vile and infused with expletives, with tales of responding in kind if a previous lover stepped out of line?

Next thing: is he too eager? Does he immediately cast you in the role of the love of his life? Is he pressing you for exclusivity, instant intimacy, almost rapes you and acts jealous when you as much as cast a glance at another male? Does he inform you that, once you get hitched, you should abandon your studies or resign your job (forgo your personal autonomy)?

Does he respect your boundaries and privacy? Does he ignore your wishes (for instance, by selecting a movie instead of going dancing without as much as consulting you)? Does he disrespect your boundaries and treats you as an object or an instrument of gratification (materializes on your doorstep unexpectedly or calls you often prior to your date)?

Does he control the situation and you compulsively? Does he disapprove if you are away for too long (for instance when you go to the powder room)? Does he interrogate you when you return ("have you seen anyone interesting") – or make lewd "jokes" and remarks? Does he hint that, in the future or if married to him, you would need his permission to do things – even as innocuous as meeting a friend or visiting with your family?

Does he act in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes you often? Does he emphasize your minutest faults (devalues you) even as he exaggerates your talents, traits, and skills (idealizes you)? Is he wildly unrealistic in his expectations from you, from himself, from the budding relationship, and from life in general?

Does he tell you constantly that you "make him feel" good? Don‘t be impressed. Next thing, he may tell you that you "make" him feel bad, or that you make him feel violent, or that you "provoke" him. "Look what you made me do!" is an abuser‘s ubiquitous catchphrase.

Does he find sadistic sex exciting? Does he have fantasies of rape or pedophilia? Is he too forceful with you in and out of the sexual intercourse? Does he like hurting you physically or finds it amusing? Does he abuse you verbally – does he curse you, demean you, calls you inappropriately diminutive names, or persistently criticizes you? Does he then switch to being saccharine and "loving", apologizes profusely and buys you gifts?

If you have answered "yes" to any of the above – stay away! He is an abuser/narcissist.

Then there is the abuser‘s body language. It comprises an unequivocal series of subtle – but discernible – warning signs. Pay attention to the way your date comports himself – and save yourself a lot of trouble!

"Having spotted the ‘right profile‘ the narcissist proceeds to see if he is sexually attracted to the woman. If he is, he proceeds to condition her using a variety of measures: sex, money, assumption of responsibilities, fostering sexual, emotional, existential and operational uncertainties (followed by bouts of relief on her part as conflicts are resolved), grandiose gestures, expressions of interest, of need and of dependence (mistakenly interpreted by the woman to mean deep emotions), grandiose plans, idealization, demonstrations of unlimited trust (but no sharing of decision making powers), encouraging feelings of uniqueness and of pseudo-intimacy, and childlike behavior. Dependence is formed and a new co-narcissist is born."

"If she is interested only in sex, it means that she perceives the narcissist merely as a sex object and thus she totally negates his uniqueness. He is likely to panic and keep his distance from this expressly anti-narcissistic agent."

"But, the narcissist abuses people. He misleads them into believing that they mean something to him, that they are special and dear to him, and that he cares about them. When they discover that it was all a charade, they are likely to respond much more forcefully than is usual."

"The more intimate the relationship, the more the other party has to lose by severing it, the more dependent the narcissist‘s partner is on the relationship and on the narcissist – the more likely is the narcissist to be jealous, aggressive, hostile, envious, and hating. This serves a dual function: as an outlet for pent up aggression – and as a kind of test."

"The narcissist concludes that if people choose to hang on to their relationships with him despite his despicable, intolerable behavior – than he must be as unique and precious as he feels himself to be."

"Once the relationship is clinched and the victim is ‘hooked‘ – the narcissist tries to minimize his contributions. He regards his input as a contractual maintenance chore and the unpleasant and inevitable price he has to pay for his Narcissistic Supply."

Narcissists manipulate because they are control freaks and they are control freaks because they lost control early in life with devastating consequences.
He is never fully there, entirely present, irreversibly committed. He is constantly with one hand on his emotional escape hatch, ready to bail out, to absent himself, to re-invent his life in another place, with other people. The narcissist is a coward, terrified of his True Self and protective of the deceit that is his new existence. He feels no pain. He feels no love. He feels no life."

"Divorce is a life crisis – and more so for the narcissist. The narcissist stands to lose not only his spouse but an important Source of Narcissistic Supply. This results in narcissistic injury, rage, and an all-pervasive feelings of injustice, helplessness and paranoia."

"This kind of narcissist jealously guards his possessions – his collections, his

furniture, his cars, his children, his women, his money, his credit cards… his

gifts from his co-narcissist partner...

Objects comfort the narcissist."

Any time he commits an error, has bad luck, exerts the wrong judgment, or, simply, has to face a task – the narcissist ‘passes the buck‘. People close to him are to blame. They did not pay attention, they did not alert him on time, they did not prevent what happened, or did not notice the importance of what he was doing, did not make his life easier (after all, this is their raison d‘etre / reason for being)."

"Pathological narcissism is founded on alloplastic defenses – the firm conviction that the world or others are to blame for one‘s behavior. The narcissist firmly believes that people around him should be held responsible for his reactions or have triggered them. With such a state of mind so firmly entrenched, the narcissist is incapable of admitting that something is wrong with HIM."

"But that is not to say that the narcissist does not experience his disorder. He does. But he re-interprets this experience. He regards his dysfunctional behaviors – social, sexual, emotional, mental – as conclusive and irrefutable proof of his superiority, brilliance, distinction, prowess, might, or success. Rudeness to others is reinterpreted as efficiency. Abusive behaviors are cast as educational. Sexual absence as proof of preoccupation with higher functions. His rage is always just and a reaction to injustice or being misunderstood by intellectual dwarves."

"And then I do my best to destroy their mood: I bring bad news. Provoke a fight. Make a disparaging remark. Project a dire future. Sow uncertainty in the relationship. And when the other person is sour and sad, I feel relieved. It‘s back to normal. My mood improves dramatically and I try to cheer her up. Now if she does cheer up – it is REAL. It is my doing. I controlled it. And I controlled HER."

"The narcissist – wittingly or not – utilizes people to buttress his self-image and self-worth. As long and as much as they are instrumental in achieving these goals – he holds them in high regard, they are valuable to him. He sees them only through this lens. This is a result of his inability to love humans: he lacks empathy, he thinks utility, and he reduces others to mere instruments. If they cease to ‘function‘, if – no matter how inadvertently – they cause him to doubt this illusory, half-baked, self-esteem – they become the subject of a reign of terror. The narcissist then proceeds to hurt these ‘insubordinate wretches‘. He belittles and humiliates them. He displays aggression and violence in myriad forms. His behavior metamorphosises kaleidoscopically, from over-valuation of the useful other to a severe devaluation of same."

"The personality disordered explodes in rage – because he implodes AND reacts to outside stimuli, simultaneously. Because he is a slave to magical thinking and, therefore, regards himself as omnipotent, omniscient and protected from the consequences of his own acts (immune) – the personality disordered often acts in a self-destructive and self-defeating manner. The similarities are so numerous and so striking that it seems safe to say that the personality disordered is in a constant state of acute anger."

"Most personality disordered people are prone to be angry. Their anger is always sudden, raging, frightening and without an apparent provocation by an outside agent. It would seem that people suffering from personality disorders are in a CONSTANT state of anger, which is effectively suppressed most of the time. It manifests itself only when the person‘s defenses are down, incapacitated, or adversely affected by circumstances, inner or external."

"The personality disordered are afraid to show that they are angry to meaningful others because they are afraid to lose them. The borderline personality disordered is terrified of being abandoned, the narcissist (NPD) needs his Narcissistic Supply Sources, the paranoid – his persecutors and so on. These people prefer to direct their anger at people who are meaningless to them, people whose withdrawal will not constitute a threat to their precariously balanced personality. They yell at a waitress, berate a taxi driver, or explode at an underling."

"I, for instance, firmly ‘believe‘ that women are evil predators, out to suck my lifeblood and abandon me. So, I try and make them fulfill the prophecy. I try and make sure that they behave exactly in this manner, that they do not abnegate and ruin the model that I so craftily, so elaborately and so studiously designed. I tease them and betray them and bad mouth them and taunt them and torment them and stalk them and haunt them and pursue them and subjugate them and frustrate them until they do abandon me."

"Tell him that you would not like to ever see him again OR hear from him again and that – if he promises to let go – you promise to let go and forget the whole thing. Needless to say that if he does stalk you – you should contact the Police. Regarding the money: I don‘t know how much he owes you but whatever it is, it is a small price to pay for getting rid of a narcissist. You learned a lesson and you paid a tuition fee. This is the way of the world."

"Administer a modicum of narcissistic treatment (including verbal abuse) to the narcissist – and he/she is likely to vanish in a puff of indignant smoke. Narcissists shrivel, wither and die without Narcissistic Supply. Humiliation, disagreement, criticism, comparison with others, mirroring the narcissist‘s behavior – are all great ways of getting rid of narcissists."

"I believe in the possibility of loving narcissists if one accepts them unconditionally, in a disillusioned and expectation-free manner. Narcissists are narcissists. This is what they are. Take them or leave them. Some of them are lovable. Most of them are highly charming and intelligent. The source of the misery of the victims of the narcissist is their disappointment, their disillusionment, their abrupt and tearing and tearful realization that they fell in love with an ideal of their own invention, a phantasm, an illusion, a fata morgana. This ‘waking up‘ is traumatic. The narcissist is forever the same. It is the victim who changes."

A narcissist can be held responsible for some of his actions because he can tell right from wrong and can control most of his actions. He simply doesn‘t care to do so. Others are not important enough to him."

The narcissist feels blame and guilt but then he instantly shifts them to others (MAINLY and OFTEN to his victim)."

"When he idealizes you and you remain unmoved – you are frustrating and ingrate. When he devalues you and you ignore him – you are obstinate and deserving of even worse punishment. In short: you are infuriating because you won‘t be controlled."

"To react emotionally to a narcissist is like talking atheism to an Afghan fundamentalist. Narcissists have emotions, very strong ones, so terrifyingly strong and negative that they hide them, repress, block, and transmute them. They employ a myriad of defense mechanisms: Projective Identification, splitting, projection, intellectualization, rationalization… Any effort to emotionally relate to a narcissist is doomed to failure, alienation and rage."

"The blind rage that this induces in the targets of my vitriolic diatribes provokes in me a surge of satisfaction and inner tranquility not obtainable by any other means."

"The narcissist admits to a problem only when abandoned, destitute, and devastated. He feels that he doesn‘t want any more of this. He wants to change. And there often are signs that he IS changing. And then it fades. He reverts to old form. The ‘progress‘ he made evaporates virtually overnight. Many narcissists report the same process of progression followed by recidivist remission and many therapists refuse to treat narcissists because of the Sisyphean frustration involved."

"The narcissist simply discards people when he becomes convinced that they can no longer provide him with Narcissistic Supply. This evaluation, subjective and highly emotionally charged, does not have to be grounded in reality. Suddenly – because of boredom, disagreement, disillusion, a fight, an act, inaction, or a mood – the narcissist wildly swings from idealization to devaluation. He then ‘disconnects‘ immediately. He needs all the energy that he can muster to obtain new Sources of Narcissistic Supply and would rather not spend these scarce and expensive resources over what he regards as human refuse, the waste left by the process of extraction of Narcissistic Supply."

"Sooner, or later, everyone around the narcissist is bound to become his victim. People are sucked – voluntarily or involuntarily – into the turbulence that constitutes his life, into the black hole that is his personality, into the whirlwind, which makes up his interpersonal relationships. Different people are hurt by different aspects of the narcissist‘s life and psychological makeup. Some trust him and rely on him, only to be bitterly disappointed. Others love him and discover that he cannot reciprocate. Yet others are forced to live vicariously, through him."

"I hate holidays and birthdays, including my birthday. It is because I hate it when other people are happy if I am not the cause of it. I have to be the prime mover and shaker of EVERYONE‘s moods. And no one will tell me HOW I should feel. I am my own master. I feel that their happiness is false, fake, forced. I feel that they are hypocrites, dissimulating joy where there is none. I feel envious, humiliated by my envy, and enraged by my humiliation. I feel that they are the recipients of a gift I will never have: the ability to enjoy life and to feel joy. And then I do my best to destroy their mood. I bring bad news."

"When I have money, I can exercise my sadistic urges freely and with little fear of repercussions."

"No, I do not crave money, nor care for it. I need the power that it bestows on me to dare, to flare, to conquer, to oppose, to resist, to taunt, and to torment."

"Being the victim of a narcissist is a condition no less pernicious than being a narcissist. Great efforts are required to leave a narcissist and physical separation is only the first step. One can abandon a narcissist – but the narcissist is slow to abandon its victims. It is there, lurking, rendering existence unreal, twisting and distorting with no respite, an inner, remorseless voice, lacking in compassion and empathy for its victim. And the narcissist is there spiritually long after it has vanished physically."

"It is true that he is a chauvinistic narcissist with repulsive behaviors. But all he needs is a little love and he will be straightened out. I will rescue him from his misery and misfortune. I will give him the love that he lacked as a kid. Then his narcissism will vanish and we will live happily ever after."

"The narcissist knows how to charm, how to simulate emotions, how to flatter. Many narcissists are gifted actors, having acted the role of their False Self for so long. They wine the targeted Supply Source (whether Primary or Secondary) and dine it. They compliment and flatter, always present, forever interested. Their genuine and keen (though selfish) immersion in the other, their overt high regard for him or her (a result of the idealization), their almost submissiveness – are alluring. It is nigh impossible to resist a narcissist on the prowl for Sources of Supply. At this stage, his energies are all focused and dedicated to the task."

"The more the narcissist convinces himself that his sources are perfect, grand, comprehensive, authoritative, omniscient, omnipotent, beautiful, powerful, rich and so on – the better he feels. The narcissist has to idealize his Supply Sources in order to value the supply that he derives from them. This leads to over-valuation and results in the formation of an unrealistic picture of others. The fall is inevitable. Disillusionment and disappointment ensue. The slightest criticism, disagreement, shades of opinion – are interpreted by the narcissist as an all out assault against his very existence. The previous appraisal is sharply reversed.

For example: the same people are judged stupid who were previously deemed to possess genius. This is the devaluation part of the cycle – and it is very painful both to the narcissist and to the devalued (for very different reasons, of course). The narcissist mourns the loss of a promising ‘investment opportunity‘ (Source of Narcissistic Supply). Conversely, the ‘investment opportunity‘ mourns the loss of the narcissist."

"The narcissist has no genuine emotions. He can be madly in ‘love‘ with a woman (Secondary Narcissistic Supply Source) because she is famous/she has money/she admires him/she is a native and he is an immigrant/she comes from the right family/she is unique in a manner positively reflecting on the narcissist‘s perceived uniqueness/she remembers past successes of the narcissist. Yet, this ‘love‘ disappears immediately when her usefulness runs its course or when a better ‘qualified‘ Source of Supply presents herself."

"Narcissists are terrified of being abandoned exactly as co-dependents and borderlines are. BUT their solution is different. Co-dependents cling. Borderlines are emotionally labile and react disastrously to the faintest hint of being abandoned. Narcissists FACILITATE the abandonment. They MAKE SURE that they are abandoned. This way they achieve two goals:

1. Getting it over with – The narcissist has a very low threshold of tolerance to uncertainty and inconvenience, emotional or material.

2. Narcissists are very impatient and ‘spoiled‘. They cannot delay gratification OR impending doom. They must have it all NOW, good or bad."

"Narcissists can be happily married to submissive, subservient, self-deprecating, echoing, mirroring and indiscriminately supportive spouses. They also do well with masochists. But it is difficult to imagine that a healthy, normal person would be happy in such a folie-a-deux (‘madness in twosome‘)."

"But can‘t we act civilized and remain on friendly terms with our narcissist ex? Never forget that narcissists (full fledged ones) are nice to others when:

a. They want something – Narcissistic Supply, help, support, votes, money… They prepare the ground, manipulate you and then come out with the ‘small favor‘s they need or ask you blatantly or surreptitiously for Narcissistic Supply (‘What did you think about my performance…‘, ‘Do you think that I really deserve the Nobel Prize?‘).

b. They feel threatened and they want to neuter the threat by smothering it with oozing pleasantries.

c. They have just been infused with an overdose of Narcissistic Supply and they feel magnanimous and magnificent and ideal and perfect. To show magnanimity is a way of flaunting one‘s impeccable divine credentials. It is an act of grandiosity. You are an irrelevant prop in this spectacle, a mere receptacle of the narcissist‘s overflowing, self-contented infatuation with his False Self."

"But there is nothing, which reminds the narcissist more of the totality of his envious experiences than happiness. Narcissists lash out at happy people out of their own deprivation."

"In developing the narcissistic personality, it is important to consider the parental history. A highly critical family environment dominated by extremely demanding parents generally marks the childhood of the narcissistic character. In such a family the child‘s primary function is to enhance the mother‘s or father‘s self-esteem: the child as accessory. When the child in such a family fails to live up to such stringent parental expectations (which are inevitable), the child will be the target of criticism, either direct or indirect, and suffer rejection. The damage occurs during the child‘s formative years, a time when nurturing and the discovery and fostering of a functional personality are crucial."

"The narcissist is seething with enmity and venom. He is a receptacle of unbridled hatred, animosity, and hostility. When he can, the narcissist often turns to physical violence. But the non-physical manifestations of his pent-up bile are even more terrifying, more all-pervasive, and more lasting. Beware of narcissists bearing gifts. They are bound to explode in your faces, or poison you. The narcissist hates you wholeheartedly and thoroughly simply because you are. Remembering this has a survival value."

(IIc) Refuse All Contact

Decline any and all gratuitous contact with the narcissist.
Do not respond to his pleading, romantic, nostalgic, flattering, or threatening e-mail messages.
Return all gifts he sends you. LOL
Refuse him entry to your premises. Do not even respond to the intercom.
Do not talk to him on the phone. Hang up the minute you hear his voice while making clear to him, in a single, polite but firm, sentence, that you are determined not to talk to him.
Do not answer his letters.
Do not visit him on special occasions, or in emergencies.
Do not respond to questions, requests, or pleas forwarded to you through third parties.
Disconnect from third parties whom you know are spying on you at his behest.
Do not discuss him with your children.
Do not gossip about him.
Do not ask him for anything, even if you are in dire need.
When you are forced to meet him, do not discuss your personal affairs – or his.
Relegate any inevitable contact with him – when and where possible – to professionals: your lawyer, or your accountant.

Question:

What kind of a spouse/mate/partner is likely to be attracted to a narcissist?

On the face of it, there is no (emotional) partner or mate, who typically "binds" with a narcissist. They come in all shapes and sizes. The initial phases of attraction, infatuation and falling in love are pretty normal. The narcissist puts on his best face – the other party is blinded by budding love. A natural selection process occurs only much later, as the relationship develops and is put to the test.

Living with a narcissist can be exhilarating, is always onerous, often harrowing. Surviving a relationship with a narcissist indicates, therefore, the parameters of the personality of the survivor. She (or, more rarely, he) is moulded by the relationship into The Typical Narcissistic Mate/Partner/Spouse.

First and foremost, the narcissist‘s partner must have a deficient or a distorted grasp of her self and of reality. Otherwise, she (or he) is bound to abandon the narcissist‘s ship early on. The cognitive distortion is likely to consist of belittling and demeaning herself – while aggrandizing and adoring the narcissist.

The partner is, thus, placing herself in the position of the eternal victim: undeserving, punishable, a scapegoat. Sometimes, it is very important to the partner to appear moral, sacrificial and victimized. At other times, she is not even aware of this predicament. The narcissist is perceived by the partner to be a person in the position to demand these sacrifices from her because he is superior in many ways (intellectually, emotionally, morally, professionally, or financially).

The status of professional victim sits well with the partner‘s tendency to punish herself, namely: with her masochistic streak. The tormented life with the narcissist is just what she deserves.

In this respect, the partner is the mirror image of the narcissist. By maintaining a symbiotic relationship with him, by being totally dependent upon her source of masochistic supply (which the narcissist most reliably constitutes and most amply provides) – the partner enhances certain traits and encourages certain behaviors, which are at the very core of narcissism.

The narcissist is never whole without an adoring, submissive, available, self-denigrating partner. His very sense of superiority, indeed his False Self, depends on it. His sadistic Superego switches its attentions from the narcissist to the partner, thus finally obtaining an alternative source of sadistic satisfaction.

It is through self-denial that the partner survives. She denies her wishes, hopes, dreams, aspirations, sexual, psychological and material needs, choices, preferences, values, and much else besides. She perceives her needs as threatening because they might engender the wrath of the narcissist‘s God-like supreme figure.

The narcissist is rendered in her eyes even more superior through and because of this self-denial. Self-denial undertaken to facilitate and ease the life of a "great man" is more palatable. The "greater" the man (=the narcissist), the easier it is for the partner to ignore her own self, to dwindle, to degenerate, to turn into an appendix of the narcissist and, finally, to become nothing but an extension, to merge with the narcissist to the point of oblivion and of merely dim memories of herself.

The two collaborate in this macabre dance. The narcissist is formed by his partner inasmuch as he forms her. Submission breeds superiority and masochism breeds sadism. The relationships are characterized by emergentism: roles are allocated almost from the start and any deviation meets with an aggressive, even violent reaction.

The predominant state of the partner‘s mind is utter confusion. Even the most basic relationships – with friends, children, or parents – remain bafflingly obscured by the giant shadow cast by the intensive interaction with the narcissist. A suspension of judgment is part and parcel of a suspension of individuality, which is both a prerequisite to and the result of living with a narcissist. The partner no longer knows what is true and right and what is wrong and forbidden.

The narcissist recreates for the partner the sort of emotional ambience that led to his own formation in the first place: capriciousness, fickleness, arbitrariness, emotional (and physical or sexual) abandonment. The world becomes hostile, and ominous and the partner has only one thing left to cling to: the narcissist.

And cling she does. If there is anything which can safely be said about those who emotionally team up with narcissists, it is that they are overtly and overly dependent.

The partner doesn‘t know what to do – and this is only too natural in the mayhem that is the relationship with the narcissist. But the typical partner also does not know what she wants and, to a large extent, who she is and what she wants to become.

These unanswered questions hamper the partner‘s ability to gauge reality. Her primordial sin is that she fell in love with an image, not with a real person. It is the voiding of the image that is mourned when the relationship ends.

The break-up of a relationship with a narcissist is, therefore, very emotionally charged. It is the culmination of a long chain of humiliations and of subjugation. It is the rebellion of the functioning and healthy parts of the partner‘s personality against the tyranny of the narcissist.

The partner is likely to have totally misread and misinterpreted the whole interaction (I hesitate to call it a relationship). This lack of proper interface with reality might be (erroneously) labeled "pathological".

Why is it that the partner seeks to prolong her pain? What is the source and purpose of this masochistic streak? Upon the break-up of the relationship, the partner (but not the narcissist, who usually refuses to provide closure) engages in a tortuous and drawn out post mortem.

But the question who did what to whom (and even why) is irrelevant. What is relevant is to stop mourning oneself, start smiling again and love in a less subservient, hopeless, and pain-inflicting manner.

Abuse is an integral, inseparable part of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

The narcissist idealizes and then DEVALUES and discards the object of his initial idealization. This abrupt, heartless devaluation IS abuse. ALL narcissists idealize and then devalue. This is THE core narcissistic behavior. The narcissist exploits, lies, insults, demeans, ignores (the "silent treatment"), manipulates, controls. All these are forms of abuse.

There are a million ways to abuse. To love too much is to abuse. It is tantamount to treating someone as one‘s extension, an object, or an instrument of gratification. To be over-protective, not to respect privacy, to be brutally honest, with a morbid sense of humor, or consistently tactless – is to abuse. To expect too much, to denigrate, to ignore – are all modes of abuse. There is physical abuse, verbal abuse, psychological abuse, sexual abuse. The list is long.

Narcissists are masters of abusing surreptitiously ("ambient abuse"). They are "stealth abusers". You have to actually live with one in order to witness the abuse.

There are three important categories of abuse:

Overt Abuse – The open and explicit abuse of another person. Threatening, coercing, battering, lying, berating, demeaning, chastising, insulting, humiliating, exploiting, ignoring ("silent treatment"), devaluing, unceremoniously discarding, verbal abuse, physical abuse and sexual abuse are all forms of overt abuse.
Covert or Controlling Abuse – Narcissism is almost entirely about control. It is a primitive and immature reaction to the circumstances of a life in which the narcissist (usually in his childhood) was rendered helpless. It is about re-asserting one‘s identity, re-establishing predictability, mastering the environment – human and physical.
The bulk of narcissistic behaviors can be traced to this panicky reaction to the potential for loss of control. Narcissists are hypochondriacs (and difficult patients) because they are afraid to lose control over their body, its looks and its proper functioning. They are obsessive-compulsive in their efforts to subdue their physical habitat and render it foreseeable. They stalk people and harass them as a means of "being in touch" – another form of narcissistic control.
But why the panic?

The narcissist is a solipsist. To him, nothing exists except himself. Meaningful others are his extensions, assimilated by him, they are internal objects – not external ones. Thus, losing control of a significant other – is equivalent to losing the use of a limb, or of one‘s brain. It is terrifying.

Independent or disobedient people evoke in the narcissist the realization that something is wrong with his worldview, that he is not the centre of the world or its cause and that he cannot control what, to him, are internal representations.

To the narcissist, losing control means going insane. Because other people are mere elements in the narcissist‘s mind – being unable to manipulate them literally means losing it (his mind). Imagine, if you suddenly were to find out that you cannot manipulate your memories or control your thoughts… Nightmarish!

Moreover, it is often only through manipulation and extortion that the narcissist can secure his Narcissistic Supply (NS). Controlling his Sources of Narcissistic Supply is a (mental) life or death question for the narcissist. The narcissist is a drug addict (his drug being the NS) and he would go to any length to obtain the next dose.

In his frantic efforts to maintain control or re-assert it, the narcissist resorts to a myriad of fiendishly inventive stratagems and mechanisms. Here is a partial list:

Unpredictability

The narcissist acts unpredictably, capriciously, inconsistently and irrationally. This serves to demolish in others their carefully crafted worldview. They become dependent upon the next twist and turn of the narcissist, his inexplicable whims, his outbursts, denial, or smiles.

In other words: the narcissist makes sure that HE is the only stable entity in the lives of others – by shattering the rest of their world through his seemingly insane behavior. He requires absolute exclusivity with his partner, and will fly into a screaming rage if another man flirts, calls or pays any attention to her. She soon learns to end friendships with male friends and to avoid men in general in order to keep the peace. Only then will the Narcissist guarantee his presence in her life – by destabilizing her, he can control her every move.

In the absence of a self, there are no likes or dislikes, preferences, predictable behavior or characteristics. It is not possible to know the narcissist. There is no one there.

The narcissist was conditioned – from an early age of abuse and trauma – to expect the unexpected. His was a world in which (sometimes sadistic) capricious caretakers and peers often behaved arbitrarily. He was trained to deny his True Self and nurture a False one.

Having invented himself, the narcissist sees no problem in re-inventing that which he designed in the first place. The narcissist is his own creator.

Hence his grandiosity.

Moreover, the narcissist is a man for all seasons, forever adaptable, constantly imitating and emulating, a human sponge, a perfect mirror, a chameleon, a non-entity that is, at the same time, all entities combined. The narcissist is best described by Heidegger‘s phrase: "Being and Nothingness". Into this reflective vacuum, this sucking black hole, the narcissist attracts the Sources of his Narcissistic Supply.

To an observer, the narcissist appears to be fractured or discontinuous.

Pathological narcissism has been compared to the Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly the Multiple Personality Disorder). By definition, the narcissist has at least two selves, the True and False ones. His personality is very primitive and disorganized. Living with a narcissist is a nauseating experience not only because of what he is – but because of what he is NOT. He is not a fully formed human – but a dizzyingly kaleidoscopic gallery of ephemeral images, which melt into each other seamlessly. It is incredibly disorienting.

It is also exceedingly problematic. Promises made by the narcissist are easily disowned by him. His plans are transient. His emotional ties – a simulacrum. Most narcissists have one island of stability in their life (spouse, family, their career, a hobby, their religion, country, or idol) – pounded by the turbulent currents of a disheveled existence.

The narcissist does not keep agreements, does not adhere to laws or social norms, and regards consistency and predictability as demeaning traits. He will promise gifts that never materialize, offer assistance than doesn‘t happen ("because of his exhausting work schedule or health") He teases with allusions to a wonderful marriage if she will only give up her social circle & support group. ("Someday, but not right now, since you still have male friends.") Only when he is convinced of her complete and sublime obedience, and all of her friends have been eliminated will the narcissist enter into a marriage. After the wedding, she will lose her very soul trying to keep him happy, since that is something that no one is capable of doing.

Thus, to invest in a narcissist is a purposeless, futile and meaningless activity. To the narcissist, every day is a new beginning, a hunt, a new cycle of idealization or devaluation, a newly invented self. There is no accumulation of credits or goodwill because the narcissist has no past and no future. He occupies an eternal and timeless present. He is a fossil caught in the frozen ashes of a volcanic childhood.

TIP

Refuse to accept such behavior. Demand reasonably predictable and rational actions and reactions. Insist on respect for your boundaries, predilections, preferences, and priorities.

Disproportional Reactions

One of the favorite tools of manipulation in the narcissist‘s arsenal is the disproportionality of his reactions. He reacts with supreme rage to the slightest slight. He punishes severely for what he perceives to be an offense against him, no matter how minor. He throws a temper tantrum over any discord or disagreement, however gently and considerately expressed. Or he may act attentive, charming and seductive (even over-sexed, if need be). This ever-shifting emotional landscape ("affective dunes") coupled with an inordinately harsh and arbitrarily applied “penal code” are both promulgated by the narcissist. Neediness and dependence on the source of all justice meted – on the narcissist – are thus guaranteed.

TIP

Demand a just and proportional treatment. Reject or ignore unjust and capricious behavior.

If you are up to the inevitable confrontation, react in kind. Let him taste some of his own medicine.

Dehumanization and Objectification

People have a need to believe in the empathic skills and basic good-heartedness of others. By dehumanizing and objectifying people – the narcissist attacks the very foundations of the social treaty. This is the "alien" aspect of narcissists – they may be excellent imitations of fully formed adults but they are emotionally non-existent, or, at best, immature.

This is so horrid, so repulsive, so phantasmagoric – that people recoil in terror. It is then, with their defenses absolutely down, that they are the most susceptible and vulnerable to the narcissist‘s control. Physical, psychological, verbal and sexual abuse are all forms of dehumanization and objectification.

TIP

Never show your abuser that you are afraid of him. Do not negotiate with bullies. They are insatiable. Do not succumb to blackmail.

Never give him a second chance. React with your full arsenal to the first transgression.

Abuse of Information

From the first moments of an encounter with another person, the narcissist is on the prowl. He collects information with the intention of applying it later to extract Narcissistic Supply. The more he knows about his potential Source of Supply – the better able he is to coerce, manipulate, charm, extort or convert it "to the cause". The narcissist does not hesitate to abuse the information he gleaned, regardless of its intimate nature or the circumstances in which he obtained it. This is a powerful tool in his armory.

TIP

Be guarded. Don‘t be too forthcoming in a first or casual meeting. Gather intelligence.

Be yourself. Don‘t misrepresent your wishes, boundaries, preferences, priorities, and red lines.

Do not behave inconsistently. Do not go back on your word. Be firm and resolute.

Impossible Situations

The narcissist engineers impossible, dangerous, unpredictable, unprecedented, or highly specific situations in which he is sorely and indispensably needed. The narcissist, his knowledge, his skills or his traits become the only ones applicable, or the most useful to coping with these artificial predicaments. It is a form of control by proxy.

TIP

Stay away from such quagmires. Scrutinize every offer and suggestion, no matter how innocuous.

Be vigilant and doubting. Do not be gullible and suggestible. Better safe than sorry.

TIP

Trap your abuser. Treat him as he treats you.

Ambient Abuse

The fostering, propagation and enhancement of an atmosphere of fear, intimidation, instability, unpredictability and irritation. There are no acts of traceable or provable explicit abuse, nor any manipulative settings of control. Yet, the irksome feeling remains, a disagreeable foreboding, a premonition, a bad omen. This is sometimes called "gaslighting".

In the long-term, such an environment erodes one‘s sense of self-worth and self-esteem. Self-confidence is shaken badly. Often, the victims go a paranoid or schizoid and thus are exposed even more to criticism and judgment. The roles are thus reversed: the victim is considered mentally disordered and the narcissist – the suffering soul or the victim.

TIP

Run! Get away! Ambient abuse often develops into overt and violent abuse.

You don‘t owe anyone an explanation – but you owe yourself a life. Bail out of the relationship.

"If only he tried hard enough", "If he only really wanted to heal", "If only we found the right therapy", "If only his defenses were down", "There MUST be something good and worthy under the hideous facade", "NO ONE can be that evil and destructive", "He must have meant it differently", "God, or a higher being, or the spirit, or the soul is the solution and the answer to our prayers", "He is not responsible for what he is - his narcissism is the product of a difficult childhood, of abuse, and of his monstrous parents."

The Pollyanna defenses of the abused are aimed against the emerging and horrible understanding that humans are mere specks of dust in a totally indifferent universe, the playthings of evil and sadistic forces, of which the narcissist is one - and that finally their pain means nothing to anyone but themselves. Nothing whatsoever. It has all been in vain.

The narcissist holds such thinking in barely undisguised contempt. To him, it is a sign of weakness, the scent of prey, a gaping vulnerability. He uses and abuses this human need for order, good, and meaning – as he uses and abuses all other human needs. Gullibility, selective blindness, malignant optimism – these are the weapons of the beast. And the abused are hard at work to provide it with its arsenal.

Vulnerability in self-esteem makes individuals with this disorder very sensitive to criticism or defeat. Although they may not show it outwardly, criticism may haunt these individuals these individuals and may leave them feeling humiliated, degraded, hollow, and empty. They may react with disdain, rage, or defiant counterattack. Their social life is often impaired due to problems derived from entitlement, the need for admiration, and the relative disregard for the sensitivities of others.

Though their excessive ambition and confidence may lead to high achievement; performance may be disrupted due to intolerance of criticism or defeat. Sometimes vocational functioning can be very low, reflecting an unwillingness to take a risk in competitive or other situations in which defeat is possible. Individuals with this disorder have special difficulties adjusting to growing old and losing their former superiority.

Narcissistic traits are very common in adolescents, but most adolescents grow out of this behavior. Unfortunately, for some, this narcissistic behavior persists and intensifies into adulthood; thus they become diagnosed with this disorder.

The really sad part is that our minds create these feelings so that we‘ll be motivated to engage in a relationship that meets our emotional needs, yet those same feelings can end up locking us in, pulling back again into a broken relationship that just can‘t fill those needs! Its like a trap, one that we need new understanding to get out of.

Narcissists, like all disordered people, aren‘t just hurtful. They also spin our reality to make theirs less painful. They project their problems onto us, and blame us for what they do. After a while it becomes hard to distinguish what is real from what is being projected and what is being distorted. We begin to doubt our reality and question whether we‘re the crazy ones. What‘s more, narcissists hide their problems very effectively, concealing their disease from most people, causing us further confusion.

The truth is, THEY‘RE NOT RIGHT. But they feel better when they can get us to carry the burden of their illness and their behavior.

Are you Walking on Eggshells with Jekyll & Hyde?

You are not alone...

"I mourn the loss of what could have been and what should have been and the realization that he will never be any different. It‘s quite shocking to realize you wasted a whole year of love and time and money on someone who never really cared about you because they can‘t. It hurts! I hate it too. I‘m still spending alot of time trying to understand and deal with the pain"

"When I read his emails they made me melt. He was articulate and well versed, something I loved in a man. To make a long story short, for many months life was bliss. He was a gentleman, appeared to be responsible, kind and very generous. I wanted a responsible man, a man that did not lie, a man that can talk AND listen to a woman. I wanted a man that had a conscience, was REAL. I thought I saw this in him. Then it started..."

"Eventually, you will come to the painful realization that you were nothing more than an instrument of their self gratification, then we‘re as easily discarded as a piece of gum that‘s lost its flavor."

"You are dealing with a totally delusional human being, who builds his own fantasies about his reality and believes his own pathological lies. How can you possibly hope to have a healthy relationship with someone who bases his whole existence on deceit? IMPOSSIBLE! And don‘t kid yourself - They know exactly what they are doing - They prey, victimize, and devastate."

"My councillor said he was a psychopath and would not change. She said men like him keep her in work because of women like me, ahhh sad but true."

"I spent 7 years with my N, trying to recapture the first 3 months, and yet it’s only today that it occurred to me that the first 3 months were NOT who he was; the rest of the time was!"

"As human beings, we cannot grasp evil so cold. We just cannot imagine this whole part of our lives that was so important, was a big nothing. A big sick lie. When it‘s over, we will be forgotten like yesterdays trash."

Therapists can actually use the narcissistic features of their patients to engage and assess them. To avoid angering the patient, it‘s important to work with, rather than belittle, the narcissistic ego. A therapist should, for example, address a patient‘s heightened self-importance and desire for control by saying such things as "Because you are obviously such an intelligent and sensitive person, I‘m sure that, working together, we can get you past your current difficulties."

A distinction must be made between ‘normal‘ or ‘healthy‘ narcissism on the one hand and ‘pathological‘ narcissism on the other. We all have some degree and variety of narcissistic delusion which, if it is not too great, is normal and healthy. But the pathological narcissist has a level of delusion that is divorced from reality.

It is rare for a narcissistic individual to be diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder because those who really should be don‘t seek help and so don‘t get clinically assessed; it is usually members of their family or work colleagues who seek help to cope with them.

He has problems and issues and they will never be resolved by him. That is his life.

If you want to continue to be a part of his controlling dramas then maintain friendship with him. But for the most part it won‘t be fun.

At the end of the day, it comes down to what YOU want for yourself and for your life. What does your future hold for YOU?

If you enjoy riding the emotional rollercoaster that is this guy‘s life, then stay strapped in, if you don‘t, then undo those buckles, get off and walk away.

It‘s up to you. What do YOU want?
NPD‘s havent grown up, emotionally, enough to realise that they have their own human boundaries, we have ours, and where they leave off, we begin...they are ALLWAYS enmeshed...they CAN NOT be without supply.



Topic: Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey
Subject: Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey - Posted: 4/16/2008 6:36:59 PM

 

I just found out that Jack Handey is a real person. (whoda thunk?)
in honor of that discovery, here are some quotes for your laughing pleasure!


So are we so different? Of course, we are, and you will be even more different if I ever finish my homemade flame thrower.


Consider the daffodil. And while you‘re doing that, I‘ll be over here, looking through your stuff.


Before insulting a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets mad, you‘re a mile away - and you have his shoes.


If you ever drop your keys in a river of molten lava, let them go because man they‘re gone.


To me, clowns aren‘t funny. In fact, they‘re kind of scary. I‘ve wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.


If you‘re a cowboy and you‘re dragging a guy behind your horse, I bet it would really make you mad if you looked back and the guy was reading a magazine.


If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins most? I‘d say Flippy, wouldn‘t you? You‘d be wrong though. It‘s Hambone.


If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you‘ll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy.


Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone‘s neck and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh because, what IS that thing?


The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.


If you get invited to your first orgy, don‘t just show up nude. That‘s a common mistake. You have to let nudity "happen."


If I live in the Wild West days, instead of carrying a six-gun in my holster, I‘d carry a soldering iron. That was if some smart-aleck cowboy said something like, "Hey look. He‘s carrying a soldering iron!" and started laughing, and everybody else started laughing, I could just say, "That‘s right, it‘s a soldering iron. The soldering iron of justice." Then everyone would get real quiet and ashamed, because they made fun of the soldering iron of justice, and I could probably hit them up for a free drink.


If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.


I wish a robot would get elected president. That way, when he came to town, we could all take a shot at him and not feel too bad.


One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to
take my nephew to Disneyland, but instead I drove him to an old
burned-out warehouse. "Oh no," I said, "Disneyland burned down." He
cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a
pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real Disneyland,
but it was getting pretty late.


Maybe in order to understand mankind we have to look at that word itself. MANKIND. Basically, it‘s made up of two separate words: "mank" and "ind." What do these words mean? It‘s a mystery and that‘s why so is mankind.


If your friend is already dead, and being eaten by vultures, I think it‘s okay to feed some bits of your friend to one of the vultures, to teach him to do some tricks. But only if you‘re serious about adopting the vulture.


Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he‘s carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he‘s carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you‘re drunk.


If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is, "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is, "Probably because of something you did."


Sometimes when I feel like killing someone, I do a little trick to calm myself down. I‘ll go over to the persons house and ring the doorbell. When the person comes to the door, I‘m gone, but you know what I‘ve left on the porch? A jack-o-lantern with a knife stuck in the side of it‘s head with a note that says "You." After that I usually feel a lot better, and no harm done.


It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.


As the evening sky faded from a salmon color to a sort of flint gray, I
thought back to the salmon I caught that morning, and how gray he was, and how
I named him Flint.


To me, it‘s always a good idea to always carry two sacks of something when you walk around. That way, if anybody says, ‘Hey, can you give me a hand?,‘ you can say, ‘Sorry, got these sacks."


Children need encouragement. If a kid gets an answer right, tell him it was a lucky guess. That way he develops a good, lucky feeling.


You know what‘s probably a good thing to hang on your porch in the summertime, to keep mosquitoes away from you and your guests? Just a big bag of blood.


I hope life isn‘t a big joke, because I don‘t get it.


Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis.


If you‘re in the war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at some guys, throw one of those little baby-type pumpkins. Maybe it‘ll make everyone think of how crazy war is, and while they‘re thinking, you can throw a real grenade.


I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don‘t have to tell me," I said. "I‘m off the team, aren‘t I?" "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you‘re wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet. You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times." It was all true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach. He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can mold. But that‘s when I felt the handcuffs go on.


Probably the earliest flyswatters were nothing more than some sort of striking surface attached to the end of a long stick.


There‘s nothing so tragic as seeing a family pulled apart by something as simple as a pack of wolves.


When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges.


For me, the worst thing about having King Kong walk down your street is that kids could look up and see the giant genitalia.


If God dwells inside us, like some people say, I sure hope he likes enchiladas, because that‘s what he‘s getting.


I remember as a boy watching my grandfather get up early every Saturday morning, put on his fishing gear and go down to the river to fish. He‘d come home in the afternoon and we‘d all laugh at him. However we weren‘t laughing when he came back one day with a hooker he picked up in town.


If you ever build a time machine, don‘t stick your arm out of the window or it‘ll turn into a fossil.


If you ever go flying backwards in time, and you come across someone flying forward into the future, it‘s probably best to avoid eye contact.


I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they‘d never expect it.


One good thing about hell, at least, is that you can probably pee wherever you want to.


The crows seemed to be calling his name, thought Caa.


As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way.


Even though I was their captive, the Indians allowed me quite a bit of freedom. I could walk freely, make my own meals, and even hurl large rocks at their heads. It was only later that I discovered that they were not Indians at all but only dirty-clothes hampers.


We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can‘t scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me.


Here‘s a good trick: get a job as a judge at the Olympics. Then, if some guy sets a world record, pretend that you didn‘t see it and go, "Okay, is everybody ready to start now?"


If I ever get real rich, I hope I‘m not real mean to poor people, like I am now.


I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children‘s children...because I don‘t believe children should be having sex.


Blow ye winds, like the trumpet blows, but without that noise.


I think the monkeys at the zoo should have to wear sunglasses so they can‘t hypnotize you.


As a young boy, when you get splashed by a mud puddle on the way to school, you wonder if you should go home and change, but be late for school, or go to school the way you are; dirty and soaking wet. Well, while he tried to decide, I drove by and splashed him again


With some coral and wood screws, small children can be made to look like raindeer.


Whenever I see an old lady slip and fall on a wet sidewalk, my first instinct is to laugh. But then I think, what is I was an ant, and she fell on me. Then it wouldn‘t seem quite so funny.


The memories of my family outings are still a source of strength to me. I remember we‘d all pile into the car - I forget what kind it was - and drive and drive. I‘m not sure where we‘d go, but I think there were some trees there. The smell of something was strong in the air as we played whatever sport we played. I remember a bigger, older guy we called "Dad." We‘d eat some stuff, or not, and then I think we went home. I guess some things never leave you.


Boxing is alot like ballet except there‘s no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other.


Topic: Oldest Member
Subject: Oldest Member - Posted: 4/24/2008 12:00:19 PM
LittleMissWomansaver wrote:
meandnotyou wrote:
Ummm...wouldn‘t the founder of the site be the oldest member?!


If I were to be counted as the oldest member, I came here in late 2002.  5.5 years and counting....

I can‘t wait until the new message board is ready.  It is going to have this cool "kharma" measurement and the moderation will be tiered so long-time trusted members will have more "flagging" weight than new members but even long-time members could be flagged if they get out of control.  It will temporarily reduce or completely stop the problematic postings until things settle down.  It will be interesting to see how it works.  Much more work to be done.


hey I got your a raido interview on my ipod and I finally got around to listening to it on my last trip (interesting timing)

I posted in 2006... not so new

still don‘t know what I‘d have done without you guys. I know I am not on here a lot now, but all of ya‘ll have been so great


Topic: ha ha
Subject: ha ha - Posted: 4/27/2008 9:46:50 PM
A young ventriloquist is touring the clubs and one night he‘s doing a show in a small town in the bleak north of England.  With his dummy on his knee, he starts going through his usual dumb blonde jokes.

Suddenly, a short blonde woman in the 4th row stands on her chair and starts shouting, ‘I‘ve heard enough of your stupid blonde jokes. What makes you think you can stereotype women that way?  What does the color of a person‘s hair have to do with her worth as a human being?  It‘s guys like you who keep women like me from being respected at work and in the community, and from reaching our full potential as a person because you and your kind continue to perpetuate discrimination against not only blondes, but women in general and all in the name of humor!‘

Embarrassed the ventriloquist begins to apologize, and the blonde yells, ‘You stay out of this, mister! I‘m talking to that little **** on your knee.‘

Topic: ha ha
Subject: ha ha - Posted: 4/28/2008 9:02:58 AM
lorrie wrote:
blinded1 wrote:
Shouldnt this be in the jokes section?


shouldn‘t you be at work.


man who is this???

when i got this reply I was like "what?!?!?!"

I can post wherever I want to

move it to the joke section if you want to

Hey lorrie :)

 


Topic: ha ha
Subject: ha ha - Posted: 4/28/2008 6:49:41 PM

ahhh... now I know

yeha i go tthe blue in it. I actually honnied  ti making it a redish color but it‘s starting to lighten up some


Topic: I am a grandma!!!!
Subject: I am a grandma!!!! - Posted: 4/29/2008 2:33:23 PM
congrats!

Topic: anyone see this?
Subject: anyone see this? - Posted: 4/30/2008 11:24:32 AM
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senate Republicans blocked a bill Wednesday that would make it easier for people to sue over pay discrimination, an effort to roll back a 2007 Supreme Court ruling that limited such cases.

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The Supreme Court ruled unequal pay claims must be filed within 180 days of the first discriminatory paycheck.

Republicans complained that the bill would produce a flood of lawsuits and criticized the chamber‘s Democratic leaders for putting off the vote until the party‘s two presidential candidates, Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, returned from the campaign trail.

"Here we are, shut down on a Wednesday afternoon, no action in the Senate, in order to accommodate the Democratic candidates for president‘s schedule," Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said Wednesday.

Though several Republicans joined Democrats in voting to break the filibuster, the 56-42 vote was four short of the needed 60.

McConnell urged senators to block the bill and stick with a debate on a veterans benefits bill pending in the Senate. But Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada blamed Republicans for stalling action on that bill to complain about the equal pay bill.

"I have trouble understanding how my friend would have the gall to stand on the floor and make the comment he did, but he did," Reid said. He joined Republicans on the vote, a tactical move that allowed him to request the measure be reconsidered.

The bill, dubbed the Fair Pay Restoration Act, is a response to a 2007 Supreme Court decision that ruled a person who claims pay discrimination must file a complaint within 180 days of that discrimination taking place.

That deadline is specified in Equal Employment Opportunity Commission guidelines, and it "protects employers from the burden of defending claims arising from employment decisions long past," Justice Samuel Alito wrote for the majority in the 5-4 decision.

The bill that stalled Wednesday would have reset the clock with every paycheck, with supporters arguing that each paycheck was a discriminatory act. But Sen. Johnny Isakson, a Georgia Republican, said the bill would allow retirees drawing pensions to sue their old companies over allegations of discrimination that happened decades ago.

"We‘re about having integrity in the system, so we have timely complaints, we have timely evidence, and the parties that are there can quickly be remedied," Isakson said.

The case was brought by an Alabama woman, Lilly Ledbetter, who claimed that her employer, Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co., paid men doing similar work 15 to 40 percent more. Ledbetter said she discovered the discrepancy late in her career -- too late, the court ruled, to go to court. Video Watch woman who found out too late she was paid less »

Clinton and Obama spent most of the day in Indiana, one of the two states in the next round of Democratic contests, but both returned to the Senate in time to vote for the bill.

"I‘m hoping this chamber will stand up for fundamental fairness for women in the workplace," said Clinton, of New York. "I‘m hoping you will stand up and vote to make it clear that women who get up every single day and go to work deserve to be paid equally to their male counterparts."

And Obama, of Illinois, added, "If you work hard and do a good job, you should be rewarded no matter what you look like, where you come from or what gender you are."

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Sen. Barbara Mikulski, a Maryland Democrat, called Wednesday‘s vote "a call to arms" for the women of America.

"We will take it out to the voting booths. We will go on the Internet. We are going to go on TV. We are going to go on the blogs. We‘re going to tell everybody about this ignominious vote that just occurred," she said. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend


Topic: TGIF
Subject: TGIF - Posted: 5/2/2008 5:10:58 PM
hey guys! I hope everyone has a great weekend. I got to work tomorrow for the taste of beaufort or... I guess dinner after the taste of beaufort... and then a wedding on sunday. we celerbrated Dad‘s bday tonight with steaks from the meat market and a boston cream pie. Thanks sis for ‘membrin

Topic: hey!
Subject: hey! - Posted: 5/4/2008 10:03:17 AM

hey shally!!!


Topic: songs that we might be able to relate to.
Subject: songs that we might be able to relate to. - Posted: 5/27/2008 1:28:09 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=42OmsmKiJgM 


Topic: Stephany Alexander on Gregory Mantell TV Show
Subject: Stephany Alexander on Gregory Mantell TV Show - Posted: 5/28/2008 11:06:31 PM
congrats! I have you doing an interview on my ipod anI hear i smile and listen everytime I catch it :) 

Topic: I feel so bad
Subject: I feel so bad - Posted: 6/16/2008 11:18:23 AM

I haven‘t really been on here since the case slosed.. I miss ya‘ll so much, but it‘s a little hard to come here. I still am having a hard time with my friend who‘s in an abusive relationship now so although comming here helpped me before it just reminds me of how much i can‘t do for her.

I hate the place she‘s in and she thinks that I don‘t knowwhat she‘s going through because I don‘t have kids... I can‘t help her understand that kids or not i get what she‘s going through. I have been there through out the last 8 years watching it get worse and it‘s not just her. It‘s those kids, it‘s her disabeled mom...

Her boyfriend jacks off in front of her mom. When she goes to work her mom is scared to be there alone with him.. but she doesn‘t care. She doesnn‘t want to make him mad, but I can‘t tell you what I woulds do if someone even thought about acting like that in front of my momma.

He‘s allowed by officials in our town to get away with it all the time! when they take him from the property for domestic violence, no reports are taken. The only reason they arrested him last time is because someone else beat him up and they took that guy to jail too. they never interviewed the other members of the house and in 4 hours he was home like nothing happened. When I came home from maine, I though what she needed was a friend to help her get through it. now it seems I am supposed to take up for her when they fight, help her with the kids, and her mom, but she‘s not going to get rid of him because it‘s too hard. She can‘t afford to take care of everyone as he sit‘s around all day watching her. he doesn‘t work but can‘t even watch the kids while she‘s at work. he‘s either jacking off to the computer in the living room or sitting up at the bar where we work running up a tab he can‘t pay for, asking her if every guy she waits on is her new boyfriend.

I am just sick to my stomach seeing him. And her mom, god bless her mom having to live like this. Everytime she gets up the courage to go to adult protective services, cindy promisses she‘ll leave him, so her mom waits then nothing.

I know that if I take her there it‘s most likely going to be the end of us as friends but.... I hope that one day she‘ll get it

I don‘t know, I just hate that she won‘t do, not just for herself then but for her family.


Topic: I feel so bad
Subject: I feel so bad - Posted: 6/16/2008 1:29:34 PM

yeah dad knows. this girl is like my sister. Her own father died when she was in her early teens and although he left everything to her, including the house where she lives, her father choose not to be in her life when she was younger becauase of her mother being an alcholic and he uses that saying that he‘ll never pay a dime of support and he‘ll fight her tooth and nail for custody and she believes that with his family (both parents cops, one a former chief) that he can get whatever he wants. His point is backed up when he gets out of everything.

He was charged this last time with CDV but then the judge offered him Pre Trial Intervention (PTI). When he completes this program he can expunge the charge from his record so no one else will ever have to know about it.

but I can‘t make anymore excuses for her. I just can‘t stand sitting here and knowing that even though she‘ll allowing this, her mom and kids suffer too! My ex was nuts, I know this, but she doesn‘t seem to understand that my ex was cracked out when he sexually assaulted and murdered the old lady, her boyfriend pulls back the curtain on her mother in the shower just because cindy‘s not putting out. He offers this girl  we know, a recovering coke head, drugs for a blow job... But because she‘s been in rehab cindy doesn‘t believe her. this girl has been friends of ours for years. I even told her about how he came on to me right after the murder. I was a nut case and he would say things like "can I come over tonight" and "you‘re going to be alone later on" I lived right around the corner from them before i left to go to maine and he followed me over there one night. i didn‘t know what to do so I lied and told him I was leaving to meet a boy.

I am not afraid of him and it‘s like she wants me there cause she knows I can stop him from being a nut or at least take the heat off of her but I don‘t be want to be that... that person that makes him being there less scary. I want him gone. I want her to learn to live.

She‘s told him to leave, but she hasn‘t sent him a letter telling him when he has to be out. That‘s all she has to do, send a letter with someone, my cop friends have all volunteered, but she doesn‘t want to do that. She just wants him to leave. Why would he. She pays all the bills, He doesn‘t work, he doesn‘t have to listen to her, he won‘t leave unless she makes that one step and she won‘t..

 


Topic: I feel so bad
Subject: I feel so bad - Posted: 6/16/2008 9:11:36 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=42OmsmKiJgM

Topic: I feel so bad
Subject: I feel so bad - Posted: 6/16/2008 9:14:35 PM
by the way guys, I cut my hair really short... really short for me anyways. I wish I had a pic but will post one as soon as I get them :)

Topic: I feel so bad
Subject: I feel so bad - Posted: 6/17/2008 9:03:35 PM
lorrie wrote:

www.dr.phil.com

standing by your man?

i think you should check it out. he wants to hear from by standers where their friends or loved ones are standing by a man that lies, cheats, steals or hits.

 



yeah, I am not going there for her. I took her mom to the adult protective service department in our department of socical services. That‘s where I found out that the "adult" that they are talking about is one who is mentally incompetent.

This woman is on disability and walks on a walker. She‘s lived in this house for 29 years, she‘s just asking for someone to help her find alternate housing. She went over a year ago to housing and they tell her they are not accepting aplications. Who doesn‘t accept applications! It‘s a bunch of people that turn you away and hope you don‘t come back.

This woman didn‘t listen to a thing we said. When we walked out of there she sent us to a girl that helps with bills when you can‘t afford to pay them. She said that she is allowing it, we were asking her for help so it‘s not like she‘s allowing it. I am not her daughter, she‘s in a walker and it‘s her daughter and her boyfriend who live with her are the ones who she was trying to make a report about.

So anyways I told mom and dad over dinner and they gave me some names to help me tomorrow. I also went to the office of a lawyer who was featured in this article http://dwb.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/5157478p-4691032c.html I dropped off the article from licoln county news http://www.mainelincolncountynews.com/index.cfm?ID=28143 and my phone number and told him I‘d love to chat.

The reason I thought about him today was because I got Shannon Erickson‘s name and number to contact instead of the other people who haven‘t bothered to return my emails.

Anyways, back on the road tomorrow... I‘ll be back soon :)

Night guys

 

 


Topic: MUST SEE!!!! Felon spy!!! It‘s great
Subject: MUST SEE!!!! Felon spy!!! It‘s great - Posted: 6/17/2008 9:15:07 PM

Oh my god check this **** out!!!!

 

http://www.felonspy.com/


Topic: Alyssa lies a great sad song
Subject: Alyssa lies a great sad song - Posted: 6/22/2008 3:02:12 PM
http://www.bacausa.com/Multimedia/Jason%20Michael%20Carroll%20-%20Alyssa%20Lies.mp3

Topic: Alyssa lies a great sad song
Subject: Alyssa lies a great sad song - Posted: 6/23/2008 8:09:58 AM

try this one if you can‘t
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvBbBQOifx4

also, we were looking at this one today from way back...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=I0PVV5wrz2I


Topic: you‘re so nasty
Subject: you‘re so nasty - Posted: 7/6/2008 10:58:18 PM
he he I can‘t remember any ones that‘s crazy, too much drinking :)

Topic: Should I sue?
Subject: Should I sue? - Posted: 7/19/2008 9:26:54 PM

oh my goodness!!!!

How was the job going before this? Sorry I don‘t get on to much anymore, but I hate to hear about this!

When my friends mom got out of the hospital the only place that had room for her to be in a temparary assisted living home was a nut house in savannah (about 1 hour drive from here)

One visit; there was a guy that was standing in the hall as we were going through... he reached over to my friend‘s mom who was in a wheelchair at the time and grabbed a huge patch of hair out of her head. There was nothing we could do. the people that worked there responded very quickly, but... you know what can you do. He is crazy :(

I cried for her the whole way home. Luckily she only spent a couple months there. unfortunatly the home she came from isn‘t any better (but I‘m wokring on that one)   


Topic: heart attack
Subject: heart attack - Posted: 7/20/2008 9:54:39 AM

 

I got this in an email and I figured I‘d share it :)

NURSE‘S HEART ATTACK EXPERIENCE

 I am an ER nurse and this is the best description of this  event that I have ever heard. Please read, pay attention,  and send it on!
                                                           

                      FEMALE HEART ATTACKS

 I was aware that female heart attacks are different,  but this is the best description I‘ve ever read.

 Women and heart attacks (Myocardial infarction).  Did  you know that women rarely have the sa! me dram atic  symptoms that men have when experiencing heart attack ... you know, the sudden stabbing pain in the chest, the cold  sweat, grabbing the chest & dropping to the floor that  we  see in the movies.  Here is the story of one woman‘s  experience with a heart attack.

 ‘I had a heart attack at about 10 :30 PM with NO prior  exertion, NO prior emotional trauma that one would suspect  might‘ve brought it on.   I was sitting all snugly & warm on a cold evening, with  my purring cat in my lap, reading an interesting story  my friend had sent me, and actually thinking,  ‘A-A-h,  this is the life, all cozy and warm in my soft, cushy Lazy  Boy with my feet propped up.

 A moment later, I felt that awful sensation of indigestion,  when you‘ve been in a hurry and grabbed a bite of  sandwich  and washed it down wit! h a das h of water, and that hurried  bite seems to feel like you‘ve swallowed a golf ball  going  down the esophagus in slow motion and it is most  uncomfortable. You realize you shouldn‘t have gulped it  down so fast and needed to chew it more thoroughly and this time drink a glass of water to hasten its progress down to the stomach. This was my initial sensation---the only trouble
 was that I hadn‘t taken a bite of anything since about 5:00 p.m.

 After it seemed to subside, the next sensation was like little squeezing motions that seemed to be racing up my SPINE (hind-sight, it was probably my aorta spasming), gaining speed as they continued racing up and under my sternum (breast bone, where one presses rhythmically when administering CPR).

 This fascinating process continued on into my throat and branched out into both jaws.  ‘AHA!! NOW I stopped puzzling about what was happening -- we all have read and/or heard about pain in the jaws being one of the signals of an MI happening, haven‘t we?  I said aloud to myself and the cat, Dear God, I think I‘m having a heart attack!

 I lowered the footrest dumping the cat from my lap, started to take a step and fell on the floor instead. I thought to myself, If this is a heart attack, I shouldn‘t be walking into the next room where the phone is or anywhere else ... but, on the other
 hand, if I don‘t, nobody will know that I need help, and if I wait any longer I may not be able to get up in moment.

 I pulled myself up with the arms of the chair, walked slowly into the next room and dialed the Paramedics ... I told her I thought I was having a heart attack due to the pressure building under the sternum and radiating into my jaws. I didn‘t feel hysterical or afraid, just stating the facts.  She said she was sending the Paramedics over immediately, asked if the front door was near to me, and if so, to unbolt the door and  then lie down on the floor where they could see me when they came in.

 I unlocked the door and then laid down on the floor as instructed and lost consciousness, as I don‘t remember the medics coming in, their examination, lifting me onto a gurney or getting me into their ambulance, or hearing the call they made to St. Jude ER on the way, but I did briefly awaken when we arrived and saw that the Cardiologist was already there in his surgical blues and cap, helping the medics pull my stretcher out of the ambulance. He was bending over me asking questions (probably something like ‘Have you taken any medications?‘) but I couldn‘t make my mind interpret what he was saying, or form an answer,  and nodded off again, not waking up until the Cardiologist and partner had already threaded the teeny angiogram balloon up my femoral artery into the aorta and into my heart where they installed 2 side by side stents to hold open my right coronary artery.

 ‘I know it sounds like all my thinking and actions at home must have taken at least 20-30 minutes before calling the Paramedics, but actually it  took perhaps 4-5 minutes before the call, and both the fire station and St. Jude are only minutes away from my home, and my Cardiologist was already to go to the OR in his scrubs and get going on restarting my heart (which had stopped somewhere
 between my arrival and the procedure) and installing the stents.

 ‘Why have I written all of this to you with so much detail?  Because I want all of you who are so important  in my life to know what I learned first hand.‘

 1.  Be aware that something very different is happening in your body not the usual men‘s symptoms but inexplicable things happening (until my sternum and jaws got into the act).  It is said that many more women than men die of their first (and last) MI  because they didn‘t know they were having one and commonly mistake it as indigestion, take some Maalox or other anti-heartburn preparation and go to bed,  hoping they‘ll feel better in the morning when they wake up ... which doesn‘t happen.  My female friends,  your symptoms might not be exactly like mine, so I advise you to call the Paramedics if ANYTHING is unpleasantly happening that you‘ve not felt before.     It is better to have a ‘false alarm‘ visitation than to risk your life guessing what it might be!

 2.  Note that I said ‘Call the Paramedics.‘ And if you can, take an aspirin.  Ladies, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!   Do NOT try to drive yourself to the ER – you are a hazard to others on the road.  Do NOT have your panicked husband who will be speeding and looking anxiously at what‘s happening with you instead of the road.
     Do NOT call your doctor -- he doesn‘t know where you  live and if it‘s at night you won‘t reach him anyway, and if it‘s daytime, his assistants (or answering service) will tell you to call the Paramedics. He doesn‘t carry the equipment in his car that you need to be saved! The Paramedics do,  principally OXYGEN that you need ASAP. Your Dr. will be notified later.

 3.   Don‘t assume it couldn‘t be a heart attack because you have a normal cholesterol count.  Research has discovered that a    cholesterol elevated reading is rarely the cause of an MI (unless it‘s unbelievably high and/or accompanied by high blood pressure). MIs are usually caused by long-term stress and inflammation in the body,  which dumps all sorts of deadly hormones into your system to sludge things up in there.  Pain in the jaw can wake you from a sound sleep.   Let‘s be careful and be aware. The more we know, the better chance we could survive.   

 A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this mail sends it to 10 people, you can be sure that we‘ll save at least one! life.
 **Please be a true  friend and send this article to all  your friends (male & female) you care about.

Topic: new katie‘s opinion commercial
Subject: new katie‘s opinion commercial - Posted: 7/20/2008 10:26:07 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWZEENsMUrA

she‘s so funny!!


Topic: Happy Birthday Mary Mac ! ! ! ! ! !
Subject: Happy Birthday Mary Mac ! ! ! ! ! ! - Posted: 7/25/2008 8:18:50 AM
happy birthday!!!

Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/15/2008 9:59:13 PM

Another drive-by in Burton wounds man

Published Fri, Aug 15, 2008 12:00 AM

By PATRICK DONOHUE
pdonohue@beaufortgazette.com
843-986-5531

A 27-year-old Burton man is the victim of the area‘s second drive-by shooting in a week after he was shot while walking down Pine Grove Road in Burton early Thursday, according to authorities.

 

Roderick Deon Grayer told Beaufort County Sheriff‘s Office deputies that he was walking home from a friend‘s house at about 1 a.m. when he noticed a vehicle driving toward him, according to the Sheriff‘s Office.

As the car approached, Grayer said someone in the car opened fire, hitting him in the right shoulder.

The vehicle sped away, and Grayer told authorities that the bullet knocked him off his feet, making him unable to provide any description of the vehicle driven by his assailants, according to the Sheriff‘s Office.

Grayer was taken to Beaufort Memorial Hospital by a passerby.His condition wasn‘t available Thursday.

The incident was the second drive-by shooting in Burton in a week.

Police say 18-year-old Kwamain Nix opened fire on Willie Tolbert IV as he walked down Poppy Hill Road on Aug. 6. Authorities charged Jason Lasalle Black and Andre Demonte Mitchell as accessories in the shooting. Nix faces a litany of charges including assault with intent to kill.

Investigators said the Poppy Hill drive-by was in retaliation for the 2007 shooting at the Semper Fi Club where Tolbert was accused of shooting Nix and two other men.

Thursday morning‘s shooting is the 10th in northern Beaufort County since July 5, six of which occurred in Burton, including Sunday‘s fatal accidental shooting of Rasheem Ray.

Investigators have not identified any suspects in the Pine Grove Road drive-by shooting. In addition to the shooter, authorities are looking for the bystander who drove Grayer to the hospital.

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JULY 5: A gunman walks into the Studio Seven nightclub and shoots and wounds 29-year-old Kevin Holmes.

JULY 5: Antonio Larmont Pierce, Travis Sentell Holmes and Travis Javarne Holmes shoot into a house on Beeburst Lane from a white SUV, police say. Holmes and Pierce were arrested, Holmes is free on bond, and Pierce remains in jail. Travis Javarne Holmes is at large. The shooting was seen as retaliation for the Studio Seven shooting.

AUG. 3:A shooting at a Burton house party wounds Akeen Chaplin, 19, of St. Helena.

AUG. 6: Kwamain Nix, 18, opensfire on Willie Tolbert as he walks down Poppy Hill Road, according to policeTolbert was uninjured in the shooting, and police arrest Jason Lasalle Black and Andre Demonte Mitchell as accessories before the fact. Nix and Black remain jailed; Mitchell was released on bond.

SUNDAY:Rasheem Ray, 17, was killed when a stolen 9 mm handgun that he and his friends were playing with accidentally fired. The stray round struck the teen in the head.

THURSDAY: Roderick Deon Grayer, 27, is shot in the right shoulderduring a drive-by shooting on Pine Grove Road.

Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/15/2008 10:00:27 PM

the last one there I know.. He‘s my neighbor and basket ball buddy!

this is crazy! I went out with him and his bro last week in the same neighborhood!


Topic: Trying to help an abused friend, and do not know what to do.
Subject: Trying to help an abused friend, and do not know what to do. - Posted: 8/16/2008 9:32:37 AM

Hey I get it... it‘s so hard. I see my friend at work and I see her abusive boyfriend come into work everyday... They get in fights I know he‘s hit her. I know he beats her mother and sexually assaults the both of them. I am working on getting her mom out cause her mom‘s ready. She‘s not. Last week I got an email after my friend‘s boyfriend pissed on her. She said she wanted to get out and she needed my help. She‘s done it before but when I went to pick her up this time like all others, she wasn‘t at the house... she was off playing house with him.

I stopped promoting her to leave (find other conversations) but ti kills me to even think about her situation. It makes me SICK to think about her kids and her mother being in that house and having to live with it. I have to limit my time with her because it sets off triggers for me from trauma I suffered that was very similar to what she‘s living through. (and that‘s the same house where the body was at) If you can be a friend to her that‘s great, but don‘t drag yourself down trying to work on someone elses life. With my friend, I‘ll come a running the next time she calls for help, and probably the next time too.... but, I have a therapist in the house so I can deal with tthe hole I fall into when she stays. sometimes it sucks to be a superhero


Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/17/2008 12:33:10 AM

 

This is from today!!!!!

hey guys good to see ya‘ll too!

I missed ya‘ll, but not a lot of time these days... But I‘m doing good. I hope ya‘ll are doing good too. I just got back from a SCCADVASA confrence with my mother. It was reall cool. we went to spartanburg thursday in the day checked into the hotel, then went downtown. We happened on a festival in the park that I guess they do every thursday wih music, food, dancing, bubbles, 50 kids, and probably 150 adults, so mom and I sat off to the sides and t:ried to pick parents to match the kids. we‘re so good too :)

the confrence was called closing the gap: building bridges for domestic violence workers and mental health providers.. (Or something like that)

I wasn‘t so happy with our main speaker; she rushed through her workshop and I guess she rearranged her slides for whatever reason so everyone spent  more time looking for where we were in the manual instead of paying attention. Then she showed up 45 mins late for the breakout session... and because we had another one, we were unable to hear what she had to say :(  big downer

but the other speakers were great! I passed out womansavers cards but had only brought a few... The next confrence is in columbia and it‘s a SCCADVASA training for something or other... mom‘s loving it! I am too.

I think I am going to get certified in QPR, Suicide Prevention and referals... Why not right? Anyways I just got off a bad night at work... welcome back nicki right. Anyways, I fell down the other day right before we went to the confrence so the brusies on my arms are all kinds of messed up (I hit both the under arms but kept from busting my butt anyways)  and before we went down to the confrence my mom looks at me and ask "what are you going to tell people happened when they see your arms?" I told her I was going to tell the I fell down the stairs...

She looked at me and just started laughing. we had the giggles through most of the day :)

 

Marine accidentally shoots friend at party, police say

Published Sat, Aug 16, 2008 3:20 PM
By MEGHANN ACKERMAN
mackerman@beaufortgazette.com
843-986-5537

A young Marine, thinking his gun was not loaded, allegedly shot his friend, also a Marine, early Saturday.

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Patrick King

 

The Beaufort County Sheriff�s Office is investigating the shooting, which occurred at party at a Polk Village residence.

Around 1 a.m. Saturday sheriff�s deputies were called to 2809 Second St. for a report of a gunshot victim. According to party-goers, just prior to the shooting, Marine Lance Cpl. Patrick King, 21, had been playing with a handgun that he�d brought with him to the party.

King allegedly did not know the gun was loaded and pointed the gun at a friend and pulled the trigger. Witnesses reported that there had been no argument between King and his friend, also a 21-year-old Marine, and that the shooting was not intentional.

The injured man was taken to Beaufort Memorial Hospital, then transported to Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston.

King was arrested and charged with assault and battery with intent to kill. The investigation is ongoing. Anyone with further information is asked to contact Investigator Cpl. J. Kelleher at 843-470-3217.


Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/17/2008 11:33:46 AM
Tiredmomma wrote:
Makes you wonder what is going on with these young men. A marine ( or any other soldier) should know better.

Unfortunately some of them are messed up in the head after coming home from deployments but they don‘t seek "mental- health" help, due to the fact that it WILL show up in their papers years to come. Truely a stupid double edged sword in the military.

Sorry that the key speaker was a dud. Maybe she was really nervous? or maybe she jsut sucked.

TM




I think that‘s exactly what it was she was going fine at first then this lady yelled "can you speak clearly!" and I watched it go from geen to red... and she studdered and stumbled over words from there out. but the slde thing was the most annoying thing. but the manual is pretty good so I will be able to get every thing.

Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/17/2008 8:44:32 PM
Tiredmomma wrote:
not pissed wrote:
Tiredmomma wrote:
Makes you wonder what is going on with these young men. A marine ( or any other soldier) should know better.

Unfortunately some of them are messed up in the head after coming home from deployments but they don‘t seek "mental- health" help, due to the fact that it WILL show up in their papers years to come. Truely a stupid double edged sword in the military.

Sorry that the key speaker was a dud. Maybe she was really nervous? or maybe she jsut sucked.

TM




I think that‘s exactly what it was she was going fine at first then this lady yelled "can you speak clearly!" and I watched it go from geen to red... and she studdered and stumbled over words from there out. but the slde thing was the most annoying thing. but the manual is pretty good so I will be able to get every thing.


If you see her again ( the speaker) pat her on the back and tell her she did great (even if she didn‘t lol) might make her more comfortable speaking in public. Personally I FEAR crowds and speaking to one? HELL no I‘d rather dig a hole and stick my head in it!
TM


yeha I wrote her a good review and said she did the most with the time she had, but was a little hard to follow because of the slides. That way she doesn‘t feel too bad, but can make the program easier for the next group.   

Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/21/2008 10:09:49 PM

21-year-old‘s death is Polk Village‘s second fatal shooting in less than a week

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Beaufort County Sheriff‘s Office
Suspects in Polk Village shooting.
Published Thu, Aug 21, 2008 12:00 AM
By PATRICK DONOHUE
pdonohue@beaufortgazette.com
843-986-5531

A 21-year-old Beaufort man was shot and killed Wednesday night in Polk Village, the community‘s second fatal shooting in less than a week.

Joshua Ryan Tiger was shot and killed in a duplex on Centerview Drive by an unknown gunman who with an accomplice barged into the home at about 9:30 p.m., according to authorities.

Tiger and 18-year-old Kevin Robert Shipper were in the living room when they heard a knock at the door, according to the Beaufort County Sheriff‘s Office. Shipper told authorities that two armed black men stormed through the door. One of the men struck Shipper in the head with a handgun, the Sheriff‘s Office said.

Shipper told investigators that there was a struggle between Tiger and the second suspect, and Tiger was shot. The two men left the apartment in what authorities believe was a gold Lincoln Town Car.

Tiger was taken to Beaufort Memorial Hospital where he was pronounced dead, the Sheriff‘s Office said.

Patrol cars canvassed the area Thursday morning as deputies searched for the two men who investigators haven‘t identified but have released sketches of.

One of the suspects was described by Shipper as being about 6 feet 1 inches tall, weighing 170 pounds and wearing all black clothing with thin, "chin-strap" style facial hearing. The second man was described as 6 feet 1 inches tall, weighing 220 pounds and wearing all black clothing, having a round face, and no facial hair.

Tiger‘s death is the fourth fatal shooting reported in northern Beaufort County since July 5.

•Cpl. Tony Martinez-Ramirez,a Marine stationed at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, was accidentally shot in the head by another marine in his unit at a Second Street house party Saturday in Polk Village, according to authorities. Martinez-Ramirez died from his injuries two days later at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston.

The man arrested for the shooting, Lance Cpl. Patrick King,remained in the Beaufort County Detention Center as of Thursday night on a charge of involuntary manslaughter. He faces no more than five years if convicted.

•Mario Morgan,a 22-year-old hospitalman at Naval Hospital Beaufort, was shot to death Aug. 2 outside the Masonic Lodge on Lady‘s Island. Melvin Holmes,remained in the detention center as of Thursday night on murder charges.

•Two Burton teenagers were arrested Thursday in connection with the accidental shooting death of 17-year-old Rasheem Ray last week.

Darryl Kinloch, 17, and Donnell Matthews, 18, turned themselves in during arranged meetings with Sheriff‘s Office investigators.

Matthews was charged with possession of a stolen handgun, and Kinloch was charged with possession of a weapon by a person under 18, the Sheriff‘s Office said.

Kinloch is the teen believed by investigators to be the one who pulled the trigger of the stolen handgun that he, Matthews, and Ray were playing with when it accidentally went off. Ray was shot in the head and later pronounced dead at Beaufort Memorial Hospital.

Matthews remained in the Beaufort County Detention Center on Thursday night on a $5,000 bond. Kinloch was released from jail Thursday on $5,000 bail.

Fourteen shootings in northern Beaufort County have been reported since July 5.

Anyone with information is encouraged to call investigator Lance Cpl. Burns at 843-470-3437 or the Beaufort County Dispatch Center at 843-524-2777.

Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/22/2008 5:01:57 PM

it‘s sad because now when I want to go out... i don‘t! I love this town, but since my ex did the murder I have had trouble making my usual rounds, but not ever before have I been scared to go to the courts at night!!! Mostly I hang in the better side of town but rodrick lives right up the road and is the guy that everyone likes. I have never gone anywhere with him where he didn‘t have people saying hey and asking him about his family...

Then there‘s the family....they‘re devistated! the neices and nephew he lives with are scared to go out in the yard and if you drive up in a car they don‘t know forget about it... They are a wreck!


Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/22/2008 5:46:54 PM

so the other night I quit and then... i dyed my hair!!!! it‘s purple. My dad hasn‘t seen it... noone‘s really seen it. I‘ve been without car all week :) my best friend totaled mine out backing into it... and her car :)

sounds bad but the car was going to cost about 900 to fix before the wreck now they are giving me well over 3000 for it. i bought it last year for 1800!

I found another jeep, automatic, this one has a hitch and 4wd :)

air works... i get the saftey check tomorrow (before I buy of course) but I think by monday I will have a new car and a little over 2000 for my trouble. yay!

I signed up with the unitedway today to paint this place in batesburg... and I kinda hoped I‘d have enough money for travel to this and all the sccadvasa stuff I want to do... and now I have a new car and money! God loves me :) it‘s that kharma bus i guess


Topic: Nathan Schwarz
Subject: Nathan Schwarz - Posted: 8/22/2008 5:58:52 PM
kellyboo wrote:
OMG!!! It has been 2 years since I posted the orgional post about him. So long ago that I changed emails and can not remember what is was back then. I do not come on here much, sorry. But his mommy went off on her blog, so I assumed that he had found it. He is a lair, abusive and every thing I said and more. He kicked me in the stomach while I was expecting, and my son was born premature. He later died. Nathan should be in prison for his life. If this little blog, ticked him off then GOOD!


glad you got away from that one.

thanks for warning others


Topic: this **** is getting crazy!
Subject: this **** is getting crazy! - Posted: 8/25/2008 12:21:58 PM

so my knee ripped apart yesterday morning and I am dying in pain now!!!!

I twisted my right ankle and my left knee just ripped all the ligiments

the  meds they gave me aren‘t working so well but.... I think I"ll be able to manage :) actually what they gave me we turnned in to the pharmacy, but they closed before we could pick them up, but I had some of the same pain meds at home... I don‘t have the inflamatory meds at all yet

I did go with daddy to check out some other cars and we found a really nice dodge durango fully loaded, limited waranty (but a warranty no the less) great condition... all the things I wanted; air, roof rack, seats 7, tow package.... $7000... more than I was getting, but daddy helpped me cause he really likes it too. He‘s actually driving it this week since his own car went into the shop today... he called and offered to trade with me after he drove it... maybe, I like his truck too!

so I quit my job, my car got totaled out, and I blew my knee out...

but I did quit a job i hated, dyed my hair a great color, and got a really nice new car :) it‘ll just be 3-4 weeks till I can drive it

 


Topic: Happy Labor Day!
Subject: Happy Labor Day! - Posted: 9/1/2008 6:19:25 PM

so harm and I signed up voters at our local Piggly Wiggly today. it was fun... good bonding time :)

I hope you all had a good labor day


Topic: Happy Labor Day!
Subject: Happy Labor Day! - Posted: 9/2/2008 9:00:47 PM
shally wrote:
where is wee willy winky

notpissed you are so so pretty and have the most beautiful smile. I miss seeing you around here.


littlemiss if you would stop being so wicked and be more like me......you wouldn‘t be working so much.


hey I didn‘t realize I was going to get the pic so big... how do you like the ahir? I am going to do deep purple at the tips in Oct.

oh the hurricane is comming so I think they might cancel our confrence on friday, but I am going to take my mom sis and grandma to the mountain house in NC. And it‘s mom‘s b-day on monday so that‘s not too bad. A couple other families have houses on the same mountain so we‘ll all travel together. I think I‘ll just dose up on pain killers and sleep the ride up. I have to go to charleston tomorrow :) I love Charleston! I just went on Sunday too. $60 a trip for gas each trip to help a mom go visit her incarcerated son who is only 16. extra cash, fun lady to travel with and it helps since I can‘t really work. Anyways it‘s so good to stop in and see all ya‘ll too!


Topic: Happy Labor Day!
Subject: Happy Labor Day! - Posted: 9/4/2008 8:56:40 AM
lorrie wrote:

 I am going to do deep purple at the tips in Oct.

 

hey sweetie, did anyone sign up? was it boring? i applaud you for your service to your community.

deep purple tips are for concerts only. blonde is for everyday.

 

 



well the blonde... I gave myself natural tips by not dying some sections so they turned out pretty good. i was thinking I‘d only do a quick wash in for the purple one that says only a 3 day thing.. cause I have to find a real job.

We signed up about 8 new voters and 6 change of adress... and I was asked to do it again this weekend at a cooswa community gathering.. (everyones trying to do something at the comunity centers on the weekends now with all the shootings. On the 7th I am going to help with a community fourm a friend and former teacher is throwing to get ideas from other community leaders and some citizens. That‘s not going to be a great subject, but I am sure going to have fun eating cheese with the sherrif, solicitor, and select members of the county council...

I love a party no matter if it‘s a brithday or a funeral, you gotta have fun right?

lorrie I missed you too!


Topic: Happy Labor Day!
Subject: Happy Labor Day! - Posted: 9/4/2008 4:48:33 PM
lorrie wrote:
not pissed wrote:
lorrie wrote:

 I am going to do deep purple at the tips in Oct.

 

hey sweetie, did anyone sign up? was it boring? i applaud you for your service to your community.

deep purple tips are for concerts only. blonde is for everyday.

 

 



well the blonde... I gave myself natural tips by not dying some sections so they turned out pretty good. i was thinking I‘d only do a quick wash in for the purple one that says only a 3 day thing.. cause I have to find a real job.

We signed up about 8 new voters and 6 change of adress... and I was asked to do it again this weekend at a cooswa community gathering.. (everyones trying to do something at the comunity centers on the weekends now with all the shootings. On the 7th I am going to help with a community fourm a friend and former teacher is throwing to get ideas from other community leaders and some citizens. That‘s not going to be a great subject, but I am sure going to have fun eating cheese with the sherrif, solicitor, and select members of the county council...

I love a party no matter if it‘s a brithday or a funeral, you gotta have fun right?

lorrie I missed you too!



can i have the name stillpissed?

seeings as you aren‘t using it anymore?

what‘s a real job and where do i find one?

have you thought of being a cop>?



sure you can lorrie :P

I don‘t think I‘ll need it for a while.

So another of my friends got shot. he was killed. His girlfriend‘s ex did it. it‘s so sad.

16 shootings since july 5th now :(

Dad will die if I become a cop and after struggeling through "police in trouble" the latest read of mine.. I don‘t think I could do it

but I really want to start working witht the GAL program in administration... something that pays enough to get health care


Topic: Vote McCain
Subject: Vote McCain - Posted: 9/12/2008 2:07:00 PM
evesdrop wrote:
DeeDee1 wrote:
Dear Mr. Obama........words from an American soldier......how could you not vote for McCain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8




Edit:  I can‘t seem to copy/paste this video right over here.....if you want to see this video.....its copied/pasted on a thread over at Wizers place.....http://matrix.freesmfhosting.com/index.php


Sorry DeeDee...I luv ya and all, but I‘m voting Obama....some people here may not like it, but it is a free country and it‘s my choice to make....I‘m not fightin or defending my decision to anyone. I have no beef with anyone that wants to vote republican...that‘s their choice to make.

Peace Out All....

Eves



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY

Topic: joke for my girls :)
Subject: joke for my girls :) - Posted: 9/13/2008 9:42:57 AM

The husband had just finished reading a new book entitled, ‘YOU CAN BE THE MAN OF YOUR HOUSE‘. He stormed to his wife in the kitchen and announced, ‘From now on, you need to know that I am the man of this house and my word is Law. You will prepare me a gourmet meal tonight, and when I‘m finished eating my meal, you will serve me a sumptuous dessert. After dinner, you are going to go upstairs with me and we will have the kind of sex that I want. Afterwards, you are going to draw me a bath so I can relax. You will wash my back and towel me dry and bring me my robe.

Then, you will massage my feet and hands. Then tomorrow morning, guess who‘s going to dress me and comb my hair?


‘The wife replied, ‘The ****in‘ funeral director would be my first guess.‘.... 


Topic: Happy Thanksgiving!!
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving!! - Posted: 11/27/2008 11:12:52 AM
sunny fl wrote:
lorrie wrote:

to you and yours as well.

 

p.s. sunny? have you read the "twilight" series yet?



no I was asking somebody about that yesterday.

Is it good?



oh my god all f  and the new midnight sunset on line!!! they were great!!! I loved them!!!

Happy thanksgiving everyone! god I have no internet at my home now so I am so glad we‘re back online so I can see ya‘ll today! YAY!!!!

I will post later but I am taking a break from saving the world and going to brunson to a great holiday with friends and family so I really shouldn‘t even be waisting time, but this isn‘t waisting time!! I missed you guys so much!!!

quck taste though-

my best friend totaled my car

quit my job

ruined my knee... ouch (wheelchair/ cane)

got a NEW car

best friend finally (after being attacked by boyfriend) left the sorry son of a bitch

I moved in with her family to watch the kids (she works nights)

she got OP, citizen‘s opposed to domestic abuse is taking care of all her legal fees, questions, problems...

the guys parent are police so getting records is still a problem. especially since he‘s already had one arrrest that was expunged and he‘s on PTI for one now. But I think with no help at all from the cops that I may have taken care of that one.

But, while I‘ve had time durring the day I have been doing volunteer work with the gurdian at litem program hoping to get a job (a friend of my mothers took over after she left and just passed away, but I have to go through the state even though my mom started it... ugh

Also I went through the training and job or no job, I am going to do the volunteer GAL program. And I made so many friends in class. Our teacher, my friend robin, said she‘s never had a class bond like ours. They almost attacked me the first day and wanted to take me to lunch. One couple grabbed my arm and insisted I think about meeting their son! he he, but... mY hearts some where else riht now. I‘ll get into that later. I really got to go! You‘re all in my prayers

 


Topic: yay I am so glad the site‘s up!
Subject: yay I am so glad the site‘s up! - Posted: 11/28/2008 12:00:34 AM

So I see little kinks now, but I can‘t tell you how glad i am to see the site up an running again.

LMWS- I have been passing out cards like crazy (I might have to get more soon) that was of course before I realized you were hacked, but now that I have an appointment with some SC law makers I am stoked the site is up an running so i can use it as an example.(I‘m still amazed that presenting our cards seeem to make people perk up and do their job)

I am still trying/ talking/ screaming at times... trying to get the website the courts have have a list like ours with those convicted of domestic abuse... I‘ve met one lady who writes technology grants and she‘s so interested! As far as a stepping stone, I still plan on using daddy‘s department... He‘s cool with the idea, but I got to sell it to the town manager... the mayor loves the idea, but he‘d love anything I suggest :)

I went to my old high school after seeing one of my teachers this summer at lunch... we exchanged stories of our lives to date and when I told her about womansavers and the fourm I hostessed in Maine, she wanted me to come to the high school. The weeks before I went to the school, before the site went down, we were having some very hard times in the low country. We had almost 20 shooting- most unrelated- in our town. Our councilman, Mr. Glaze, organized CAVE (citizens against violence everywhere) He‘s aslo the principal of the school that the teacher, who had solicited my help, had been from. Mrs. Holloway is the living skills leader, a program she developed herself. She‘s also very religious and we‘ve always shared conversations since my high school years about our faiths.

When I went to meet her, I was escorted by Mr. Glaze (he carried my file box as managing a cane and file box- for me at least- is more than a task. I used my time to talk to him about his new public task force and thank him for his part... I explained that I was there to talk to Mrs. Holloway about a primary prevention circulum and I probed him for any information on circulum that they already have in pace... He confirmed that they weren‘t currently working with Hope haven or CODA (Citizen opposed to domestic abuse) Since I had gone to a confrence put on by SCCADVASA (yep, you get to look that one up) and talked to the community outreach leaders from those programs,  I already knew that.

When I got to Mr. Holloway, I was so organized I hardly recognized myself. We talked only for a while, but I gave her some numbers and got her permission to give her number out to those organizations to act as their liason to introduce... whatever it is they do with the kids these days.

I called the women I‘d met at the confrences and they were glorified when I told them I got Beaufot High; they had been trying, but since the school had a series of principals that didn‘t work out in the last five years, they neer could get calls back.

Since then they have set up this school as a test group. They picked 15 boys to choose the guys program and did the same for the girls!  

The program picked, won‘t start till next year, but I am glad they will now have something.

Other than that, now that I am a block away from the Shelter, I have gotten a chance to help some other women. It‘s hard getting rides organized through the schools when kids get moved into the shelter so I have offered my services so they won‘t have to pay cab fare for the kids to get back and fourth (the shelter workers can‘t give rides... too much liability I guess) Gives me extra gas money, and I really like doing it

I did have my heart broken a little when one victim I had spent a day with, going to victim‘s advocate, housing athourity, solicitor, parent teacher confrence.. about two days after our outting, she got caught (by me)... her kids and her sneaking out behind the parkinglot of the shelter from her abuser‘s car. She‘s had an order of protection before, but reconciled... they have four kids, and it just hurt really bad to not see her make it.

 I am glad the vic i live with now is doing good. She drags her feet a little, but I don‘t let her slack too much ;P You can‘t imagine how it feels to hear her tell me how strong I make her feel. I try hard to help and not to enable, so I just point and she‘s the one really doing everything, I remind her of that.

it‘s been great to watch her turn instantly into the woman I knew could be once out from under that ass hole‘s thumb. She‘s so much happier! She‘s nicer to her kids, but she‘s actually having them on a schedual... not having to come home at midnight after working and the kids still up like their dad had. The kids are great too! one little boy 2 1/2 and a little girl 5. they are so cute! great birth control, but nothing works like a pulled acl :(

still can‘t believe the site was down so long! I could have used ya‘ll recently, but I am just glad everything worked out and we‘re back up.


Topic: Happy Thanksgiving!!
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving!! - Posted: 11/28/2008 10:34:58 AM
lorrie wrote:
sunny fl wrote:
lorrie wrote:

to you and yours as well.

 

p.s. sunny? have you read the "twilight" series yet?



no I was asking somebody about that yesterday.

Is it good?



yes, the first book, "twilight" is my favorite. i haven‘t finished the last book yet.


lor the last book was great! it wraps it up perfectly! harmony calls stephaine the austin of our time :)

I like the book that she didn‘t finish the best though... you get so much more time with edward and the cullens... they‘re awesome!

http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html

then go to partial draft....it‘s the first book so if you‘re not done with the rest.... it‘s okay, but I read it after the rest and it was cool cause you remember the rest!

Harmony and I read to each other.... it‘s gotten the kids that I live with pulling out their own books too


Topic: yay I am so glad the site‘s up!
Subject: yay I am so glad the site‘s up! - Posted: 12/5/2008 10:07:49 AM
Tiredmomma wrote:
Not Pissed! You are a Godsend!

Thank you for all you do!

TM


hey gal!

hope all is well. thank you

All the cops think I am just a busy body with no life... they haven‘t figured out that I do have one... it‘s just designed at this point to annoy them in to getting off their asses and doing their jobs!

slowly the different deparments are starting to listen to me and I hope with the different ventures... between the GAL, working with the schools, helpping the shelter victims with transportation andlearning about local services,  and now getting into beaufort helpline and acting as a liason with victims and local churches... I can meet more helpful people to help me help others... if that makes any sence.


Topic: Womansavers convention?
Subject: Womansavers convention? - Posted: 12/14/2008 9:36:16 AM
CaliforniaGirl wrote:
yasmina wrote:

A WS member that I respect very much wrote to me with a good point:

That by having a convention we put ourselves "out there" and made ourselves potential targets by letting out identies be known.

I see this, but....what do you think?



That has been brought up many times, but no one is looking for me.  Not Pissed will just have to bring her good ol‘ boys for our protection.


heck yeah!!!

 I think little miss should hold it at burnningman!

 

 

I just had the retirement party for my favorite victim‘s advocate :(

I am soooo sad, but I love the new one daddy hired! we got to talking about the website (I didn‘t have any cards on me)

I told him what I wanted with the website like the sex offender one we have in the states and he got all excited about the idea and said that if I could help him a little he would help me start a petition and get it out there!

We‘re going to go to lunch one day this week and talk somemore but.... I need to write this thing up so it‘s presentable and all so any volunteers????

what I want is the website to be set up like our as far as finding someone, but to get it sold, I can probably only have the guys with convictions for domestic violence. And when I say domestic violence I am wanting even guys that beat their mommas on there... but, truley would be happy if they did one with just intimate partner violence (IPV) I want it as accessible and as promoted as the sexoffender‘s site.

the petition should be in layman‘s terms so everyone can understand it. Anyone?!?!?!?


Topic: need assistance plesae
Subject: need assistance plesae - Posted: 12/14/2008 9:39:43 AM

I brouth this up in another thread but just incase you missed it and want to help me :)

 

I just had the retirement party for my favorite victim‘s advocate :(

I am soooo sad, but I love the new one daddy hired! we got to talking about the website (I didn‘t have any cards on me)

I told him what I wanted with the website like the sex offender one we have in the states and he got all excited about the idea and said that if I could help him a little he would help me start a petition and get it out there!

We‘re going to go to lunch one day this week and talk somemore but.... I need to write this thing up so it‘s presentable and all so any volunteers????

what I want is the website to be set up like our as far as finding someone, but to get it sold, I can probably only have the guys with convictions for domestic violence. And when I say domestic violence I am wanting even guys that beat their mommas on there... but, truley would be happy if they did one with just intimate partner violence (IPV) I want it as accessible and as promoted as the sexoffender‘s site.

the petition should be in layman‘s terms so everyone can understand it. Anyone?!?!?!?


Topic: need assistance plesae
Subject: need assistance plesae - Posted: 12/14/2008 12:11:26 PM

the reason I joined this website is because I wanted to warn women about my abusive ex. I have been promoting this site since the day I found it. one thing I run into with people is they don‘t trust this site because anyone can post. They think some might come here to put on guys they just didn‘t get along with... then there are those guys that might cheat, but have never been physically abusive.

I think the guys that  get arrested for it, and for legal purposes gets convicted to be on a site like this would be great for everyone! Single women, moms and dads, hell, single guys...  but I want the federal government to make all the states do it not just SC where I live


Topic: need assistance plesae
Subject: need assistance plesae - Posted: 12/14/2008 2:36:08 PM
CaliforniaGirl wrote:

So you want a Megan’s law type site.  Where in Megan’s law they post where all the child molesters reside.  Is that what you are going for but with convicted abusers?



yep!

Topic: need assistance plesae
Subject: need assistance plesae - Posted: 12/14/2008 3:13:50 PM

this is an article I found with some of the same ideas but I do want pictures

 

Domestic violence database may protect victims

| Wednesday, Jan 30 2008 6:20 PM

Last Updated: Wednesday, Jan 30 2008 6:22 PM

A new bill that would make it easier for Californians to check whether acquaintances -- including potential romantic partners -- have a history of domestic violence has some merit.

 

But we want to know more.

Assemblywoman Fiona Ma, D-San Francisco, introduced a bill that, if approved, would create an online database of men and women convicted of domestic violence in California, the first such list to be made available to the public.

Under Ma‘s proposal, the state attorney general‘s office would register the names of domestic violence offenders convicted of a felony or two misdemeanors. It would include dates of birth, locations of convictions and other details, but would not list addresses or display photographs.

More than 17,300 people were convicted in California on felony spousal charges in 2006. National statistics suggest that crimes of that nature have a high recidivism rate.

Ma‘s bill -- which would create a system that operates much like the Megan‘s Law online list of convicted sex offenders -- would also offer instructions on how to obtain a restraining order.

The bill would help people in the sometimes-dangerous world of dating -- and the friends and relatives who often worry about them -- find a tool that would either confirm or tentatively allay suspicions. Not everyone can hire a private investigator or take the time to visit courthouses and ask for documents.

The bill would authorize higher fines on domestic violence offenders to finance the Web site, which the attorney general‘s office would operate and maintain. Offenders would remain listed on the Web site for 10 years, as long as they are not convicted of a similar crime within that time span.

Local advocates for anti-domestic violence programs say the bill needed more scrutiny.

"Do we have guarantees it can be done without dipping into other domestic violence programs?" asked Diana Campbell Rice, associate director of the Bakersfield-based Alliance Against Family Violence and Sexual Assault. "And what are the chances people could have their names listed by mistake?"

What if a violent person were left off the database because previous offenses have gone unreported or victims changed their minds about reporting them? Could that create a false sense of security?

And, critics will ask, what about people convicted of DUI? Burglary? Excessive parking tickets? Could society benefit from seeing their names listed too? Where would it stop? Fair enough.

But the issue at hand is all that matters. Domestic abuse is rampant in our society, and the Legislature is offering a tool to help potential victims protect themselves. But it must be a reliable tool that minimizes the chance for error.

It‘s possible Assembly Bill 1771 does not go far enough. Perhaps the database should include information on individuals against whom spouses and others have successfully taken out court-authorized restraining orders. Names appearing for that reason should remain in the public database for a much shorter period of time, however, perhaps six months after the expiration of the restraining order.

Case in point: The perpetrator in one of the more heinous domestic-abuse cases in recent local memory would not have qualified for posting on the Web site despite a clear history of abuse and intimidation.

The case involved Erika Meza, who was shot and killed by the father of four of her five children in front of east Bakersfield‘s Casa Loma Market Dec. 14. Asencion Garcia, 52, shot Meza, 33, before killing himself.

Court records show Meza took out a restraining order against Asencion Garcia in December 2006. At least one previous restraining order involving domestic violence was filed in 2003, but dissolved in 2004. And in April 2007, a spousal battery charge against Garcia -- filed in conjunction with an unrelated charge -- was dismissed.

Would such a law have made a difference for Meza? It‘s hard to say. But had a friend or neighbor unfamiliar with Garcia‘s history of abuse spotted him in a state-maintained database, might that person have persuaded Meza to remove herself to a safer location? We‘ll never know. But surely Meza deserved that chance.


Topic: need assistance plesae
Subject: need assistance plesae - Posted: 12/14/2008 3:31:13 PM

Why we feel the domestic violence database is so important...

According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence (NCADV), Domestic Violence is the Willful Intimidation,Assault, Battery, Sexual Assault and/or other abusive behavior perpetrated by an intimate partner against another. It is an epidemic affecting individuals in every community, county and state. Regardless of age, race, economic status, religion, nationality, or educational background. Violence against women is often accompanied by emotionally abusive and controlling behavior, and thus is a part of a systematic pattern of dominance and control. Domestic violence results in physical injury, psychological trauma and sometimes death. The consequences of domestic violence can cross generations a truly last a lifetime. This is why this database matters.

One in every four women will experience domestic violence in her lifetime. An estimated 1.4 million women are victims of a physical assault by an intimate partner each year.
The majority 73% of family violence victims are female. Females were 84% of spousal abuse victims and 86% of abused victims at the hand of a boyfriend. Historically, females have been most often victimized by someone they knew. Females who are 20-24 years of age, are at the greatest risk for intimate partner violence.
Children:

Children who witness between one‘s parents or caretakers is the strongest risk factor of transmitting violent behavior from one generation to the next. Boys who witness domestic violence, are twice as likely to abuse their own partners and children when they become adults. 30% to 60% of perpetrators of intimate partner violence abuse children in the household.
Homicide and Injury:

Almost one-third of female homicide victims that are reported in police records are killed by an intimate partner. 76% of femicide victims have been stalked by the persons that killed them.
Less than one-fifth of victims reported an injury from intimate partner violence sought medical treatment after the injury. Intimate partner violence results in more than 18.5 million mental health care visits each year.

Sexual Assault and Stalking:

One in 6 women and one in 33 men have experience an attempted or complete rape.

Nearly 7.8 million, have been raped by their intimate partner at some point in their lives.
1 in 12 women and 1 in 45 men will be stalked in their lifetime. 81% of women stalked by a current or former intimate partner are also assaulted by that partner, 31% are also sexually assaulted by that partner.

Economic Impact:

The costs of Intimate Partner Violence exceeds $5.8 Billion each year. $4.1 Billion, of which is for direct medical and mental health services. Victims of Intimate Partner Violence lost almost 8 million days of paid work because of the violence perpetrated against them by current or former boyfriends, husbands or dates. The lost is the equivalent of more than 32,000 full-time jobs and almost 5.6 million days of household productivity as a result of the violence. There are 16,800 homicides and $2.2 million medically treated injuries due to intimate partner violence annually, which cost $37 billion. With every passing year this epidemic get much worse.

 

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Topic: site prob
Subject: site prob - Posted: 12/14/2008 11:20:07 PM
so the only thing that i can see wrong with the program is when I am using a public computer and I sign in and it ask me if I want to save the password and I click no.... (I know this is totally a run on sentance but... ) it will access my account the next time I go to the site on the computer. Not when I hit the main page, but when I hit message boards my account automatically loads... usually I am on my own computer, but not always. It‘s happened on a couple computers to me now. I don‘t really worry, but...  I just thought ya‘ll should know

Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 12/22/2008 9:00:47 AM

So one of my girls that I have been helpping for a couple years is doing really well. Shes got a nice little farm right down the road from me on this little island near my parents. She‘s been living there over 3 years now and her, her husband and her four kids have been watching the animals next door starve. They have called animal controll over a half a dozen times and visitors, like myself have also called to no avail.

this horse that the have is so sick looking now that were not sure what to do. Their dogs have also started hunting food. My friend who has chickens, turkeys, and goats... not to mention small children, has started to feed the animals to keep them from killing more of her own animals and tearing throuhg her trash.

So yesterday, my sis and I (always on community projects) took pictures of the horse and it‘s showing hips and ribs

where should we go now? I thought about calling animal planet, but wonder if that might be blowing it out of porportion. I hate to do anything around christmas time because the people that own the horse and dogs have young children, but can‘t stand to watch things get worse. I‘ll uplload pictures tonight to show ya‘ll, but anyone got any ideas?


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 12/22/2008 11:18:22 PM

so i know it‘s late but here they are.. notice my stylish haircut :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 12/23/2008 8:35:17 AM
uberbeotch wrote:

OMG, that is horrible! Those poor, poor animals! So what if it‘s Christmas, so what if they have children. They are teaching those children how to abuse & neglect animals. I wonder how the children are doing too.....

Please contact your local Humane Society & SPCA right away!  Call the police too!

These 2 organizations are in So. Carolina:

http://www.humanesc.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

http://www.animalshelter.org/shelters/South_Carolina.asp

You can also contact PETA.  Their website says:

Report cruelty to animals. If an animal is in imminent danger, please contact your local police department immediately. If your local police department is unresponsive, call PETA immediately—day or night—at 757-622-7382 and dial 2.

http://www.peta.org/about/c-contact.asp

If you can get some food to the animals, please do. Please help them!

I am praying for them,

UB



so I just left a message with PETA thank you for the numbers. I also left an email for a local vet in town with pic attached, but this was his response

RE: can you please take a look at this!!!

Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:07 AM
From:
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"‘N. Cad‘" <calibeaux@yahoo.com>

Yes, he looks quite thin but that’s about all I could tell you.

 

Dr. L

 

 

Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 12/23/2008 9:14:06 AM

so i posted a sec ago that I called PETA... They have already called me back!!!!

I wish all services were this well run


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 12/23/2008 10:46:35 AM
BustyLaMoan wrote:
not pissed wrote:

so i posted a sec ago that I called PETA... They have already called me back!!!!

I wish all services were this well run



Oh Thank Goodness!  Please let us know how this turns out. 

I worked for vet‘s for years.  I think they are concerned about getted sued.  I saw things that if I were the vet I would have called the authorities.  They just treat and release.  You know when the animal doesn‘t come back for the check up what happened. 



see now I was delivering a pizza... God I must have been 18... maybe 19 and this guy who‘s house I went to opened the door.. it was cold outside and this little rott puppy came running to the house to get in. as he was getting the pizza he punted the little dog accross the porch making it fall down the stairs and into the yard. I bit my tounge... later that night I took a friend to the house called the dog and it got righ tin the car with us. We took the house to another friend with young kids... I see the dog now and am pleased with what we did.

Now... I could probably have gone to jail, but you see I never did have much faith in the animal controll around here. They once answered a free kittens add when I was a child that my grandparents had put in the paper (my grands rehabilitate animals and find homes for them... they also take in injured squierls raccoons possums... anythign but snakes realy)

an animal control dressed in regular clothes came to the house and offered to take all the cats from a litter including the mother. My grandfather got the lady‘s number and called after a week to see how they were. It was animal control and they had put all the kittens and mother down. they said they were "sick"

the girl who lives next to the horse above went to work for animal control about 10 years ago and on her first day that killed 65 animals. She never went back.

I have had my share of problems with AC I don‘t know if ya‘ll remember my post from oa couple years ago about my charges of cruelty to animals. just so you know it‘s not a good idea to get into a pissing contest with a animal control officer who usually doesn‘t do anything because they will sit in front of your home and make up things to charge you with. I got it dropped eventually but it was 3 years and 3 judges. hell it was so long my lawyer became a judge while we were waiting


Topic: A Nice Seasonal Image for Everyone
Subject: A Nice Seasonal Image for Everyone - Posted: 12/24/2008 8:46:28 PM

that‘s beautiful! I love epso churches... even the small ones are exquisite! never tacky


Topic: harm and I
Subject: harm and I - Posted: 12/24/2008 9:10:12 PM

so this is from a couple months ago, but here‘s fron‘t page news in our town :)

we went to a domestic violence vigil in bft and there was no bathroom so when harmony and I went to the bar for the 3rd time we grabbed a jello shot and then this reporter got us...


Topic: harm and I
Subject: harm and I - Posted: 12/26/2008 10:25:32 AM

Topic: harm and I
Subject: harm and I - Posted: 12/26/2008 10:26:32 AM
ohhh I love you guys!!! I hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday! God bless

Topic: scary santa... if you are having a good holiday don‘t read.
Subject: scary santa... if you are having a good holiday don‘t read. - Posted: 12/26/2008 10:29:08 AM

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A pipe bomb exploded Thursday night in a rental car used a day earlier by a man suspected in a Christmas Eve attack that left at least eight people dead, police said.

A car exploded outside the home of Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, who was suspected in the deaths of eight people.

A car exploded outside the home of Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, who was suspected in the deaths of eight people.

The car was parked outside a Sylmar, California, home where Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, 45, committed suicide hours after he allegedly -- dressed as Santa Claus -- opened fire at a holiday party and then started a raging blaze inside a Covina, California, home, police said.

Investigators have yet to identify eight charred bodies recovered from the burned house, which belonged to the parents of Pardo‘s ex-wife. A ninth person is counted as missing.

A police bomb squad was attempting to render safe a suspicious device in the rental car when it erupted in flames Thursday night, Los Angeles Police Sgt. James Bender told the Los Angeles Times.

The incident prompted police to evacuate houses near Pardo‘s Montrose, California home out of concern he may have left bombs behind there. The street was reopened late Thursday.

According to CNN affiliate KABC, no one was injured in the explosion. KABC also reports the bomb squad did not turn up anything at Pardo‘s home.

Pardo‘s neighbors talked to KABC Thursday as they watched police search his home.

"He‘s very nice, very sociable," Cindy Keenan said. She said Pardo always decorated his home for the holidays.

Patrick Guzman said when he encountered Pardo in his yard about two hours before the attack, "He seemed normal."

"He said ‘Merry Christmas‘ to me," Guzman said.

Police said the holiday party was attended by about 25 people. The gunman, dressed in a full Santa Claus outfit, came in the front door and then moved through the house, firing two semi-automatic handguns and using an apparently homemade pressurized device to spread some kind of accelerant.

The first victim was an 8-year-old girl who ran to the door after hearing a knock, police said. She was shot in the face but survived.

"She has a very, very severe injury to her face. It‘s not life-threatening, but she‘s got a very tough road ahead of her," Lt. Pat Buchanan of the Covina Police Department said at a news conference Thursday. Video Watch police describe girl‘s injuries »

Covina Police Chief Kim Raney said people at the party were jumping out of windows on both floors of the house trying to escape the gunfire and flames.

"The information we have so far is that Mr. Pardo was married to the daughter of the resident of the house," Raney said. "They‘d been married for possibly one year, had recently divorced and a settlement was reached apparently last week. It sounds like that might have been a very contentious divorce."

Police said Thursday afternoon that six bodies had been recovered, but the woman who had been married to Pardo and her parents were unaccounted for. The Los Angeles County coroner‘s office later said two more bodies had been recovered.

Police have not yet released the identities of the victims.

In addition to the nine people killed or unaccounted for, police said three people were injured, including the 8-year-old girl. A 16-year-old girl was wounded by gunfire and was hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries, police said, and a woman who jumped out of a second-floor window suffered a broken leg and was hospitalized.

Ed Winter, assistant chief Los Angeles County coroner, said the bodies recovered were "severely burned and charred" and dental and medical records and X-rays will be necessary to establish identities.

Winter said the intense fire caused the top floor of the two-story house to collapse onto the first floor.

Pardo‘s body was discovered about 30 miles from the shooting scene at his brother‘s house in the Los Angeles suburb of Sylmar, dead from "a self-inflicted gunshot wound," police said. Relatives returning to the house found Pardo‘s body, police said.

Buchanan said police received several 911 calls at 11:27 p.m. ET Wednesday. When officers arrived at the house three to four minutes after the first call, the dwelling was engulfed in flames. Video Watch firefighters respond to house fire »

The fire was so intense that firefighters battled the blaze for an hour and a half before knocking the flames down so that officers "were able to look into the house from the outside, and initially saw three bodies in the front portion of the house," he said.

Buchanan said people who were able to flee the building reported that once the gunman was in the house, "he fired multiple rounds into the people attending the party and multiple people were struck."

People hid under furniture and tried to flee by whatever exits they could find, including windows, he said.

As uninjured people were trying to escape, Buchanan said "that‘s when he (Pardo) lit the accelerant in some manner -- we do not know how at this point -- and he fled the scene."

Buchanan said the device that spread accelerant was "nothing that we or the arson-explosives unit has ever seen before. It appears to be homemade."

 

A Christmas Eve party at the house was a family tradition, Raney said, and the party had often featured a visit from a neighbor who was dressed as Santa Claus. He said that neighbor has moved out of the neighborhood and was not at the party Wednesday night.

Referring to Pardo, Buchanan said, "We don‘t know at this point whether he was aware that there was a Santa Claus in years past. We‘re assuming that he did, and that‘s the reason for the outfit."


Topic: Another way to warn others
Subject: Another way to warn others - Posted: 12/26/2008 11:41:08 AM
shally wrote:
What is your story?


probably just like most of ours. I am going to meet with sc legislator shannon erickson this month about our laws.

I do warn you that what you think  is untracable... isn‘t. If you‘ve used this phone to dial friends or family... it can be  traced. It wouldn‘t even take that much... but then you think... would he bring more attention to it?!?!? really I don‘t think any of mine would have (as I‘ve said before I don‘t think anyone of my ex‘s could/would use a computer for anything other than porn if they had one)

but you might want to read ruby tuesday‘s story. It‘s not like the guy didn‘t deserve it, but she got in real trouble for posting true information about a guy.

 

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/Infotech/0,,2-13-45_1123537,00.html

 

 

 


Topic: all south carolina women
Subject: all south carolina women - Posted: 12/26/2008 11:46:17 AM

I am going to visit law maker shannon erickson about legislation in SC for victims of domestic violence. Anything you want to tell her, please post and I will certainly bring it up :)

any questions, expirences, or suggestions you want to share... if you want to include your name or number or you don‘t feel like posting publicly, please just send an in house messsage to me and I‘ll only show it to mrs. erickson

 

thank you

 

must be submitted by jan 4, 2009


Topic: scary santa... if you are having a good holiday don‘t read.
Subject: scary santa... if you are having a good holiday don‘t read. - Posted: 12/28/2008 9:00:41 PM
bubblecropper wrote:

It was on the news here too. Absolute scumbag. Ah f*ck it this stuff doesn‘t shock me anymore...there are some scummy crazy dangerous people out there. Lots of them. I‘m tired of it.

Late christmas night while walking from one relations house to another, A little boy and little girl stopped me on the street, crying, telling me their mother was gone and they didnt know where. Long story short...the B*TCH was out looking for drugs, she left a six, three and 4 month old alone at home while she did so. screaming their heads off and terrified. Myself and my sis looked after them while another relation went looking for her. Thank god it was me who walked by and not some filthy little paedophile. Christmas is (was) supposed to be a time when your family was priority...the one day of the year when you put your own needs aside for those you loved...these days its become just an excuse to get loaded on drink and drugs...and for the lunatics to plan revenge plots. I‘m sick of human beings right now.



that‘s so sad honey :(

What happened with the kids?


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 12/28/2008 9:11:09 PM
Rhiannon wrote:

Hi NP.  I forced myself not to open this thread because I am reading so many stories like this, and it‘s depressing as hell.  There are stories like this all over the country.

Everyone has given you excellent advice about who to contact.  I couldn‘t give better advice on that one.

I know these are tough economic times, but giving these animals away - or putting them down (horrible as that sounds) would be kinder than letting them starve.  It takes a while for a horse to get as skinny as the horse in the photo.  A ton of grass hay isn‘t that expensive, and if they had to buy a round bale (for about $25.00 - 30.00) and stick it in the field, one horse could eat on it for a while.  That would be better than nothing.  Feed prices have skyrocketed with the econmy, but there are ways to cut costs and help animals get the nutrition they need.  Surely, they knew winter was coming last summer.

I don‘t know about other parts of the country, but here, you can get dogfood at the food bank.

I don‘t want to judge anyone for having a bad time financially, because God knows, I have been there and then some!  It‘s tough if you don‘t have a job, are losing your home, and have kids to feed.

But you wouldn‘t let your children starve - no matter what.  So you don‘t let your animals starve either.  You find a way.

Having food donations for animals is a winner, Kayjon.  I like that idea!  There are hay farmers who could donate unused  hay.  Sometimes they have a full barn of hay that is local grass hay that you usually can‘t give away after the first year.  It would have to be checked for mold (which is deadly to horses) - before it turns into feeder hay (for cows).  They can‘t sell it, usually, after the first year because no one wants it.  Why not donate it?  They could donate and call it a tax deduction.

It is enough to break your heart.  Kudos, NP, for being a community activist and doing everything you can for these poor creatures.  There should be more people like you in the world.

 



the sad thing is I am one of three people who has called on them. I skipped right over animal control... I know they have been contacted, I lived with the girl about a year ago when she was calling for the thrid time about the horse. Her father in law took pics to animal control but they said they‘d get a vet to check out the horse.

I owned horses when i was a kid.. I‘m not all smart about them, my mom and dad were with me whenever we went there and they stayed in a stable so someone else cared for them. but I know that this is gross and I don‘t like animal control myself. I was glad to see your response. Thanks for looking at  it and offering me such kind praise.

I think if they had more than one neighbor, they live at the end of the road,  they‘d get more complants.

I hope to see something done soon but last I saw the horse was still there... maybe the holidays are holding it up on their end. They did call me in such a timely fasion... well, we‘ll see


Topic: scary santa... if you are having a good holiday don‘t read.
Subject: scary santa... if you are having a good holiday don‘t read. - Posted: 1/1/2009 12:44:48 PM
bubblecropper wrote:
She came home. I reported her to social services...they are "looking into it". Apparently she‘s already had two kids taken off her.


if they are anything like our social services keep up on the case. kids slip through all the time :(

I‘d also keep a diary entry of each event you see... just for the kid‘s protection


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 1/3/2009 1:05:54 AM
kayjon wrote:

I rescued 13 cats from a trailer park ‘cause kids were smashing the kittens against the side of a trailer. They fractured the leg of a beautiful Tom that I had neutered. I am forever rescuing something. One was a 4‘ 3" iguana that I built an enclosure for to get it out of an aquarium it couldn‘t turn around in. I am sick to death of a lot of people. The thing is just like the men we meet---there are good ones. Look at us worrying about the animals,we aren‘t the only ones.

I feel we can all make a difference if we want to. I have a problem with Associations etc... because the bureaucracy often gets in the way of help. That is the reason I suggested we buy a bag or bale of food for someone we KNOW is in need.



I got an iguana onw time. I moved in a house and about the second week I was there i went to clean the porch and the poor thing scared the **** outta me. We moved in the house after someone got evicited... I took him into the bathroom and started the shower let him go in the tub.. He scaled the shower curtain while i was peeing and we totally bonded :)

He only lived for about two years after that but we had moved and our friends who moved in after took good care of him. He never really bonded with anyone else. I felt bad about leaving him, but he used to try and attack my ex ol‘ man when he would pass. He hated him. Guess I should have realized something then. Bureaucracy does get in the way of help!

that‘s what i am going to our legislator about :)

 

 

 

I think you‘re right about the


Topic: Beaufort news...
Subject: Beaufort news... - Posted: 1/3/2009 1:10:50 AM

Abuse laws must reflect our values

Published Fri, Dec 26, 2008 12:00 AM
 
 
The recent local stories on the alleged torture and killing of adopted dogs has rightly sickened and angered all who learn of the allegations.

As it was reported, the suspect also was charged with criminal domestic violence allegedly perpetrated on his girlfriend. The Beaufort Gazette quoted Beaufort County Sheriff P.J. Tanner postulating that the suspect‘s abuse of the pets might have been a way to control his girlfriend -- a quote that might have left many readers scratching their heads in bewilderment.

Domestic violence conjures up

visions of battered women, but other forms of abuse -- verbal, emotional,

financial and sexual -- all have the same goal: to sufficiently frighten or diminish a woman so as to keep her forever bound to her abuser.

Horribly, threats and/or the practice of animal abuse are included in the many tactics employed by abusers wishing to maintain control over their victims. Animal cruelty sends an implicit message: "If I can do this to our pet, I can do it to you."

This suspect has allegedly left many victims in his wake and the decision of the Gazette‘s editors to prominently feature the article indicates a realistic appreciation of the interest and outrage it would engender. However, had this abusive behavior been directed solely toward his girlfriend, it is safe to say his actions might not have been covered so extensively, and public outrage might have been less vociferous.

According to state law, the penalties this first-time offender faces for the two crimes -- domestic violence and animal cruelty -- also are disparate:

• His charge of criminal domestic violence will be presented as a misdemeanor. The charges of animal cruelty will be presented as felonies. (Even if this were his second criminal domestic violence charge, it would be presented as a misdemeanor.)

• If convicted of criminal domestic violence, he will be fined between $1,000 and $2,500. However, this fine will be waived if he attends a treatment program for batterers. If convicted of animal cruelty, he will receive a fine of $5,000.

• If convicted of criminal domestic violence, he could be sentenced up to 30 days or serve no time at all. If convicted of animal cruelty, his sentence could be not less than six months or more than five years.

Animal cruelty is disgusting and

intolerable. So is the abuse of a human being. A civilized and compassionate citizenry abhors both and ensures its laws reflect its values.

Martha Lawrence is community educator with Citizens Opposed to Domestic Abuse in Beaufort.


Topic: Pro-Ana (Anorexia) sites - they made me cry
Subject: Pro-Ana (Anorexia) sites - they made me cry - Posted: 1/3/2009 1:16:53 AM
Wire wrote:

I’ve lived with less than 1500 calories a week sometimes, but never have I heard of someone going without food for 3 days...

When it comes to a woman’s appearance, I make sure that everyone knows the contempt I hold toward that kind of standard.  I bluntly tell any woman that I know that I think makeup is horribly unattractive, not because of the things it does for appearance, but because of the lack of confidence or self-respect that is apparent when young girls smear that animal paste on....

My contempt for standards like this one doesn’t only revolve around makeup.  It’s just that with girls my age, that’s the prevailing issue.  Weight loss is fine and dandy if it is necessary, but like with the makeup, I can’t be attracted toward anyone who has such low self-respect that she feels the need to do that to her own body.  Yeeechhh....

 

In the future, because of the several years of college-level culinary studies, part of my profession as a shrink will be in eating disorders.  Maybe someday I‘ll be able to help those who really need it.



ha ha my dream guy is one who would rather cook wild, new foods with...  than go out :)

Topic: YAS!
Subject: YAS! - Posted: 1/3/2009 10:11:27 PM
shally wrote:
That I wholeheartedly agree with. The other is just plain sad.

I love to see a woman that has not known her voice shout it out. Now that‘s a blessing to hear.


 I haven‘t quit shouting!

and I agree with the compliment... Yas you‘re super hot!

by the way shally, I left you a pm...


Topic: Beaufort news...
Subject: Beaufort news... - Posted: 1/3/2009 11:44:14 PM

that‘s why I‘m meeting with our SC rep this coming week!

got lots of stuff to... express concern about


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 1/3/2009 11:47:32 PM
lorrie wrote:
uberbeotch wrote:

Has anything happened? Has PETA come? Do the horse & the other animals have food yet?

I am serious, NP - pm me your address or p.o. box & I will send you a check to get them some food.

This just breaks my heart!

UB



i surfed around and animal control is not in charge of animal neglect. down here anyway.

but if she finds a store with an 800 number??  a national chain?? they might take your order for feed over the phone and n.p. can go pick it up???

 

 

 



that‘s a good idea

uber I sent you a pm did you get it?

 


Topic: good day :P
Subject: good day :P - Posted: 1/5/2009 3:54:34 PM

so I got to talk to our sc rep. today the meeting went great. Though she still hasn‘t visited our site she has passed the cards out to other and heard nothing but good things... Thank you all for behaving :)

So I gave her a little booklet with a print out of what our seach page looks like. I  also incuded litlle case sumaries about the victim‘s i have delt with and our expirecnce with the different services, cops all that. I included SCCADVASA‘s reopt from the Moxie (their news letter) about victim‘s review about the services.

I showed her the law changes in Maine and suggested we take steps similar to theirs to detail the crimes more by having multible charges thean can pick from other instead of using CDV to cover holes in the wall to knocking someone around

I brought up my concerns about grandparent‘s visitation and my concerns about that, I asked to be kept informed.

after finishing up there I went to CODA and got to talk to the girls about doing a program in Bft high school. She called the teacher I‘ve been working with while I was there, but of course got the answer machine.. At least she has the right name now.

I hope to make it to the highschool this week... I still want the yellow dress thingy :)

well, done for today... I feel so acomplished


Topic: good day :P
Subject: good day :P - Posted: 1/5/2009 7:10:46 PM

thank you I just got done talking to mom and dad who both contributed lots of information and suggestions to me and they are both excited that it went well and glad I didn‘t get hauled outta there. But I used to work at thte preschool where I had the meeting. Shannon owns it and that‘s where we met.

of course I was early cause a girlfriend had to use my car for erranmds so she dropped me off, but then she was late and our meeting got out as my girlfriend was coming back and then had to be at work... perfect. I‘d like to say the whole day went as well, but...

anyways, I am glad to talk to her, she seemed interested in what I said and... well, I guess we will just have to see what happens.

As far as the database... If she doesn‘t do anything, I am going to contact Biden :)

he did that whole international violence against women act... play on previous acomplishments...

now... harmony and I are going out for dinner.I just had half a bottle of champange while talking with the folks so... food is a must


Topic: YAS!
Subject: YAS! - Posted: 1/5/2009 8:14:33 PM
shally wrote:
I went through and answered all my pm‘s this morning and I don‘t have one from you. Would you re-send it please.  

You ok? Look at you in that cute new picture, you lil doll!


hit you back on the pm... it‘s a little... confusing

:~)


Topic: good day :P
Subject: good day :P - Posted: 1/6/2009 9:35:01 AM
shally wrote:
Hope you realize just how special you are.

May many blessings touch your life.




 

 

 

ahhh... it‘s all good genes :)

and support, I don‘t know where I‘d be without my friends

I‘d probably still be making boys cry for fun...


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 1/12/2009 1:53:29 PM
hey no nothing.. uber I sent you the adress... sorry so long since I was on... busy week, but it‘s been good.

Topic: wish me luck
Subject: wish me luck - Posted: 1/18/2009 10:16:20 PM

so I am going to go to an interview this Friday for the GAL admin job. wish me luck... Since I applied for the job, I got my sccadvassa membership and did the Stewards for children class.

Fingers crossed


Topic: wish me luck
Subject: wish me luck - Posted: 1/22/2009 9:40:36 PM

can‘t wait1!!!  I went in once this week and filed for them and then went in today to work on one of my projects (they have a huge waterfront confrence room with sliding glass doors... beautiful) and I‘m working on a BIG new projects... I am going to create a list... not unlike the information provided at the front of the phonebook with services organized and there contact info listed... then I am going to highlight the different services in colors that identify their county coverage... I want to list low cost respite care, and the numbers of low cost childcare facilities. the new mom support numbers put in there... it‘s the same number as DSS but who the heck knows about it.

anyways I think I can do a really cool looking one with the info I got in my "little Box" and now exchanging info with the local neighborhood outreach connection http://noc-sc.org/

I hope to get what they are planning on doing online put... hard copy. Then I‘ll have lots printed up at the local printer so I can put them up in areas that they might be useful. court house, walmart bathroom, clinics...

so anyways... wish me luck tomorrow!


Topic: animal issues
Subject: animal issues - Posted: 1/23/2009 9:25:00 AM

hey uber just sent you a voice mail on your phone and called the guy from the feed and seed place to give him my number. He also is supposed to be calling the animal control people and having them call me back. I know the lady he‘s calling... not in a good way, she really really doesn‘t like me and well... i got issues with her too, but I hope his call will make her do something.....

 

ha ha I should have known better! I just got off the phone with animal control and they said that we SHOULD NOT get the animal food, they know what animal I‘m talking about and they have seen the horse... the horse is fine, for it‘s age. It‘s also under vet care and though they couldn‘t tell me who that vet was... it‘s being cared for the best they can.

thye said the horse is 32 that‘s why it‘s skinny.... when I asked if they should be riding it then... they said if the vet says so... but they won‘t tell me who the vet is.

 

so thanks for all your concern.... but I guess nevermind.

 


Topic: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help!
Subject: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help! - Posted: 1/23/2009 9:52:17 AM
:)

Topic: wish me luck
Subject: wish me luck - Posted: 1/24/2009 9:46:54 AM

so this blows! I won‘t know anything till monday!

but the interview went really well. I‘m sure I am going to be the recomendation from the staff in the office and I liked the state lady and I‘m sure she liked me :)

we‘ll see though


Topic: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help!
Subject: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help! - Posted: 1/24/2009 5:00:03 PM

uber... so before we talked I had called my old stables... the one that boarded my horses when I was younger. they called back after listening to my half crying message and I was able to talk to them this morning and take them to see the horse. They were horrified but said that they do this alot, get involved and help horses.  they hate animal control too and understood exactly how I felt but said they could take over from here on out.

I‘m so glad!!! the woman, who was a girl I used to ride with when I was a kid, was apauled by the conditions... she also said the horse doesn‘t look as old as they said it was. she noticed that it has rain rot and some absesses from untreated wounds.

I am glad that I was able to show it to someone who will help it

 


Topic: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help!
Subject: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help! - Posted: 1/24/2009 5:27:32 PM

  

so here‘s another pic


Topic: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help!
Subject: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help! - Posted: 1/24/2009 8:38:31 PM

yeah... I have a post on our local paper blog and everyone there says call animal control

ha

I‘ll certainly keep you informed

 


Topic: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help!
Subject: Not Pissed - Animal Issues - Let‘s all help! - Posted: 1/24/2009 8:47:41 PM

oh yeah... after I posted the blog on my paper ( yesterdayhttp://www2.beaufortgazette.com/blogs/post/24624#comment-69989 )... after the guy called  animal control and they had my name and number for me... the sherriff‘s department drove by my house! (It‘s in the middle of the woods on an Island that has ZERO crime.... 15 houses) then after I left for my interview the cops called the house and wanted my "information"

my mom answered the phone and when she told the lady it was me she wanted to talk to and not her... the lady asked her what my adress and all that was...my mom said "let me get your information and I‘ll ask her to give you a call if she wants"

I love my mommma

she‘s seen the horse and my sister, who took the original pictures was freaking out and telling both mom and dad when we got home how bad the horse looked.

well anyways


Topic: hey you
Subject: hey you - Posted: 1/24/2009 8:56:49 PM
:)

Topic: if this were a guy... what should they have done?
Subject: if this were a guy... what should they have done? - Posted: 1/27/2009 8:02:08 AM

Beaufort woman attacks fiancee‘s car with sword

pdonohue‘s picture

A Beaufort man told a Beaufort County Sheriff’s deputy that his fiancee attacked his car with a sword Monday morning after he told her he wanted to move out of their home on Polk Street, according to a Sheriff’s Office incident report.

The 42-year-old man told deputies that he’d been sharing the home with his 28-year-old bride-to-be and her sister for two years, and when he told her he wanted to move out Monday, she became angry, went into their bedroom and picked up a sword, the report said.

The report said the woman chased the man out of the home and around his 2002 GMC Envoy before she started hacking at the car with the sword.

The deputy noted a shattered passenger side mirror and “two narrow dents on the hood, approximately 18 inches long.”

Damage to the SUV was estimated at $1,000. The sword was seized by the Sheriff’s Office.

The man was not injured in the attack and opted not to press charges, according to the report.

The report did not indicate why he wanted to move out of the home.

 

 

 

 

they ever think he might have wanted to move out cause she‘s crazy?!?!?

now I don‘t care if it‘s a man or a woman.... someone like this needs help. What if she kills the next guy? I hate this towns attitude about domestic violence! Of course the rule of thumb is still legal here so arg! 


Topic: if this were a guy... what should they have done?
Subject: if this were a guy... what should they have done? - Posted: 2/1/2009 7:04:09 AM

this is like every case up here! If they do arrest the guy it‘s because they have another reason to... warrants, or whatever. If a guy backhands his wifr in the car and the police come accross it, they only do something if the tags are suspended.

They are lazy cops, and since we don‘t have DAs in SC we have the arresting officer prosucute the cases... those with a lawyer get off... and if you don‘t carry in a lawyer you go to jail. unless you‘re a cop, emt, fireman, woman, or child of any listed.

Or realistate agent.. don‘t ask me why

I just wanted ya‘ll to see the story and see what ya‘ll thought


Topic: Danger in SC, John P Gillies
Subject: Danger in SC, John P Gillies - Posted: 2/1/2009 8:24:37 AM

 

The family court case that started out as a probate case... I do‘nt know if most of you will remember it was way back before the trial so I‘ve cleaned my post since then, but...

A couple friends of mine were dating. Karen had two kids from her ex husband and her and tommy had just had their first child together when Tommy died in a horrible car crash. He was on his way home from work with their roommate and they bothe died instantly. Since the couple was together but not married they had to have letters from his family sayint that they lived togetrher as man and wife in order for her to get social security... his son got it automatically, but the wait for the first check was from feb to may for anything.

In the later part of 2001when the probate hearing came up his parents showed up and said that they had lied about Karen she was not like a wife and Tommy had planned on leaving her.  They wanted to be the executer of his estate. The judge said he was going to continue the caswe and most likely the parent of his only child did seem to have the most claim to the estate. Probate never setteled, it got pushed out to colleton county where no one has/will touch it. Meanwhile, Tommy‘s parents filed a lawsuit against SCDOT, and a local construction company... They also filed for custody of Karen and tommy‘s son.

She called her Bio dad who she didn‘t know much about at the time and asked him for help. He came down met the kids and promised to help her. She took her kids to Virginia where he lived and he said settle this matter in court and get on you feet. We‘ll take care of the kids till then. So Karen came home and got ready for court over her youngest son. About a week went by while they were up in VA when she, on one her nighlt phone calls, hears her son say "Grandpa said we ain‘t going back to Beaufort, We‘re going to ive here from now on"

She got on the phone with Bio dad only to find out that he had gone as soon as she left and filed papers with tthe court there saying she left her kids there and he was granted him "emergency custody" based on abandonment. Somehow they had the same lawyer in SC as the other grandparents.

so she showed up to family court here and with her other two children gone, the family court here took her youngest son too... this order blamed a "signifigant number of red flags" for her child‘s removal.

She spent the next two years jumpping through hoops, complying with everything, not getting to see her kids until they were ready for the final hearing.

The day of the final hearing, Tommy‘s parents said we‘ll give you custody back, now if you agree to visitation for us... if not we‘ll drag the case out. Karen agreed. When the court order was written up her lawyer never responded and she was stuck with a court ordered visitation that was more than the FATHER gets, had stipulations for her to keep her son in a private pre-school ($120 per week) She also had to "encourage the kid to call the grandparents mama and papa.

Karen‘s bio dad never showed up to court and she got her two sons from him back without stipulations. The oldest when he returned didn‘t understand why she "left" them there for 2 years. It took him a while to understand that she didn‘t.

So the grandparents that had the visitation, John and Debbie Gillies use to run a family orentated nuddist colony in SC,  http://www.cedarcreekpark.com/ They have had custody of another grand kid before this whole case who lived there with them, then got taken away. They continued to practice their nudism while they had their grandson and it made the mom uncomfortable, but she wasn‘t allowed to do anyhting. In the order it said no contact between her and them when they had the child.

About 3 times a year they would take her to court for some violation of her court order then settle before it went to court.

The school that her son was in reported a suspician of sexual abuse between the child and his grandfater. No evidence, just based on his behaviour. after that we took the kids and moved to georgia. Her husband stayed behind and tried to talk to the courts, but to no avail. she had to return.

When the child finally came out and said he wasn‘t going back because his grand fater was doing things to him Karen didn‘t take him. She made the reports to the police, but they said a polygraph cleared him of any suspician and her and her new husband were put in jail for 2 days and given a fine for contempt of court.

When I was doing my event in Maine, I got a call that she had been in touch with a reporter about her story. Since the story had been done that summer, 2007, there were other kids he molested comming forward. These kids were children of a lady that John Gillies married. The children were adopted by him while he was married to the lady, then he left and fought for custody. Their accounts of abuse were the same things that his grandson now was accusing him of.

I guess after one of the kids heard the story, http://www.wistv.com/global/story.asp?s=7123071  she flew to SC and filed charges against Gillies. He failed this polygraph and they were able to press charges.

http://dwb.beaufortgazette.com/developing_stories/story/6700714p-5973918c.html

Right after this arrest happened they granted Karen an "emergency hearing" and allowed her to put their current action, a claim for custody, and their current visitation aside until he went to court over this whole lewd act molestation thingy. The court on that day also issued a gag order about the whole thing.

That was in Oct he was arrested. The grand jury  true billed it on 11/29/2007 and he has only spent 4 hours in jail before he was released on OR.

Well, now for a little good news. The other day there was a court hearing. The lawyer for the grandparents wanted to be removed. The final hearing for the custody they filed for was supposed to be feb 2nd. They went to the hearing and EVERYTHING GOT DISMISSED!!!! the visitation, their pleas for custody, the GAG order... Lifted!

Karen and her son are ready to change laws now to help keep this from happening to anyone else‘s child. Her son said he wants to press charges against his grandfateher for what happened. Karen had been in touch with other parents suffering through "Grandparent visitation" and has been working with this reporter... who I love, Kara from WIS in Columbia... and I can‘t wait to see her move in the next couple of months!!!!

YAY! it‘s been 8 years since this started! I‘m so glad it‘s over, the kid is safe... and I hope that the sherriff‘s department takes her seriously.


Topic: Danger in SC, John P Gillies
Subject: Danger in SC, John P Gillies - Posted: 2/1/2009 9:02:31 PM

if I had to bet... I‘d say probation and time served... though he only did four hours

just a guess. I think he might get put on the sex offenders list, but not with out a fight. But gloves are off! Karen‘s so ready to scream on the mountian tops at anyone who will listen and louder at those who won‘t. (this is why we get along so well)

I gave her the activist‘s handbook the other day. I am going to have to post on a new topic because in her fight to end grandparent visitation I think anyone who‘s suffered domestic violence and had problems with inlaws might be able to make a difference.

In SC if you have a child with someone and they go to jail or die... the grandparents can step in and get court ordered visitation. This means your husband goes to jail for assaulting you and his parents could possibly take you children and open you up to litigation... whenever!

It also makes keeping your information from an abuser impossible when grandparents get everything from your medical to financial when going through the court discovery process.

What happened to Karen‘s son was bad. If it only happens in one out of 100 cases you can‘t take that chance. It‘s takes away a mother‘s ability to protect her children. They can take the child to the hospital don‘t have to contact you but then you‘re responsible for the bill. They can raise you child 170 days out of the year and when he acts out in life the parents are the one responsible.


Topic: Just introducing myself
Subject: Just introducing myself - Posted: 2/2/2009 7:28:17 PM

I too love the name

 

 

Kinda a wild bunch here

welcome!


Topic: bubblecropper
Subject: bubblecropper - Posted: 2/2/2009 7:37:01 PM

yay! it sounds like you‘re doing really well! I‘m glad to catch this topic.  

 

Take care doll!


Topic: bubblecropper
Subject: bubblecropper - Posted: 2/3/2009 9:14:24 AM
trying... focusing on everyone else‘s life keeps me from having to deal with one of my own :)

Topic: ALL PARENTS!!!
Subject: ALL PARENTS!!! - Posted: 2/3/2009 9:17:23 AM

 

If you are a parent you should realy check out what rights you have. Grandparent‘s visitation rights has shattered a family very close to me. With the visitation grandparents get in SC, a child molester was allowed unsupervised access to his step grand son.
I typically handle women in domestic violence situation, but this effects them too. Grand parent visitation is granted in SC IF a parent dies or goes to jail. So women in domestic violence situations, who have husbands who go to jail for domestic violence, can have his parent sue you for what amounts to joint visitation. The case I saw gave the grandparents every other weekend, every other wendesday, everyother holiday for weeks at a time and four weeks in the summer (dates up to them). The grand parents took her to court for things like not encouraging the kid to call the grandparents mama and papa. Come on!!
They burried this woman, the mother of three, a widow, in a legal mountian costing thousands a year in legal fees... and now and enormous amount of therapy required for her son who claims to have been molested... but is not taken seriously by our local police. The grandfather, after allegations were made by his grandson, was arrested for molestation of another child.
Even if this happen one out of 50 times, that‘s too many. A mother or father should have the right to check in on adults when they are with your kids. It‘s one of the first things they teach you about protecting you child. Avoid one on one contact! But if you have to; be sure the person looking after your child knows you are likely to show up unannounced, If you have court ordered visitation you are likely to also have a restaining order. There were signs, but the guy had the perfect cover. "She just says this cause we‘re in family court."

http://dwb.beaufortgazette.com/developing_stories/story/6700714p-5973918c.html
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7229262

And I thank Kara Gormley for covering the story and keeping everyone who was trying to help this child inspired. My only hope is this man gets more than the four hours he‘s spent so far. Especially since the child‘s mother and adoptive father both spent two days in jail for contempt of court for not allowing the child to go over there after he revealed he was being molested.


So what are your thoughts?

What does your state say about grandparent visitation?

Topic: old song
Subject: old song - Posted: 2/3/2009 6:36:46 PM

you ever really listen to the words of songs... I was sitting around singing this song when it cam on this morning and then I was like... What?!?!?

 

 

My friends feel it‘s their appointed duty
They keep trying to tell me all you want to do is use me
But my answer yeah to all that use me stuff
Is I wanna spread the news that if it feels this good getting used
Oh you just keep on using me until you use me up
Until you use me up

My brother sit me right down and he talked to me
He told me that I ought not to let you just walk on me
And I‘m sure he meant well yeah but when our talk was through
I said brother if you only knew you‘d wish that you were in my shoes
You just keep on using me until you use me up
Until you use me up

Oh sometimes yeah it‘s true you really do abuse me
You get in a crowd of high class people and then you act real rude to me
But oh baby baby baby baby when you love me I can‘t get enough
I and I wanna spread the news that if it feels this good getting used
Oh you just keep on using me until you use me up
Until you use me up

Talking about you using me but it all depends on what you do
It ain‘t too bad the way you‘re using me
Cause I sure am using you to do the things you do
Ah ha to do the things you do


Topic: time killer :)
Subject: time killer :) - Posted: 2/3/2009 7:31:18 PM


Current mood:  breezy


Hi, my name is:
who are you?!? JK... Nicki... to my friends :)
 

Never​ in my life have I been :
afraid of anything
 
 

I hate it when:​
the cheese on the top of the pizza burns the roof of my mouth
 
 
 

Right​ now, I am liste​ning to:
American Idol on TV.... not my choice, but I‘m enjoying it enough to not argue
 
 
If you‘​re gonna​ talk smack​ about​ me:
Join the club. From what I hear they pass out a bi-annual news letter and an oyster roast with door prizes
 
 
 
 
The one perso​n who can drive​ me nuts:​
is myself   
 
 

When I‘m nervo​us:​
I get on the road. So buckle up!     
 
 
 

The last song I liste​ned to was:
freaking over an hour ago... I can‘t remember!
 
If you were to get marri​ed today​ your maid of honor​/​best man would​ be:
commiting a crime! I ain‘t getting married!
 
 

My hair is:
interesting right now
 
When I was 4:
younger than 5
 
Last Chris​tmas:​
I tazed a fat guy for requesting I sit down and tell him what I wanted. Then I had to kick his little pointy eared kid cause he came after me with a giant candy cane!
 
 
 
I shoul​d be:
 
 
When I look down:​
I see my key board
 
 

The happi​est recen​t event​ was?
Everyday is a happy event, but a case closed and a little boy‘s safe!!! I‘m super happy about that!
 
 
My curre​nt annoy​ance is:
the way the blanket is cramping up my right shoulder... hold on....that‘s better.
 
 

I have a hard time under​stand​ing:​
cajun people    
 

The thing​ I want to buy is:
socks... somehow I never have socks!
 
 
 
Most recen​t thing​ I‘ve bough​t mysel​f:​
Socks!!!  Isn‘t that insane! And I can‘t ever find them!
 
 
 

Most recen​t thing​ someo​ne else bough​t me was:
Harmony! Right on time with a tank of gas!
 
 
 
 

Last night​ I was:
ummm... Oh yeah, watching CSI with harmony. Wild night though we almost stayed up late enough to catch Colbert
 
 
 
If I was an anima​l I‘d be:
Close to my grandma‘s house so I could get loved on :)
 
 
Tomor​row I am going​ to:
Save the world?!?!? who knows... "I won‘t think about it today..."
 
 
Tonig​ht I am:
Going to watch tv... eat some ice cream and go to bed... Oh my god, all I need now is a cat or 12  


Topic: ALL PARENTS!!!
Subject: ALL PARENTS!!! - Posted: 2/4/2009 10:50:51 AM
Rhiannon wrote:

My attorney advised me that there is a Supreme Court ruling that grandparents have no rights.

I got that information during a time when my ex in-laws were making life miserable for my children and me.

This is truly an unfortunate situation, NP.  How the grandparents ended up with so many rights to begin with is beyond me.  And that anyone would molest their own grandchildren is appalling and disgusting.  And then, of course, CPS will not investigate without "proof." 

I am guessing that for them to have the children, either one or both parents was not capable of caring for the children at the time of the divorce.

Getting buried legally is yet one more form of abuse.  A lot of victims lose rights because they cannot afford to fight the legal battles any longer.

The damage done to the kids is the biggest tragedy of all.



In my case the child‘s father died. They didn‘t need to prove she was guilty of anything. I think this case was really messed up. Lots of people were in positions to help this child.

We found out late late late in the case that the step grandad has had allegations made against him previously, but since no charges were filed... we didn‘t have access to that information. We didn‘t even know to ask for that!

My mom knew Karen when she was growing up in the foster care system. I moved near karen after Tommy died. These people skeezed me out from day one! But Karen tried hard to include them in her kid‘s life. We were all blown away with how well they were able to play this situation. 

Prolonged litigation is never good on kids. The money Karen had to come up with to  pay lawyers, GALs, court fees and fines... She was never able to file anything against them!

I am so glad she ended up with the lawyer she did. It was so far into the case, he‘s a doll for taking it... And winning! We had no idea that this was going to be the end.

My thoughts: the judge knew that all of the improprities that the court ignored before were going to be documented with this case going to a final hearing. 


Topic: ALL PARENTS!!!
Subject: ALL PARENTS!!! - Posted: 2/5/2009 9:01:51 PM

well if you get a half assed lawyer and just judges... troxel vs. Granville deems it unconstitutional! goes against a parent‘s fundamental rights to raise the child the way they want to.

She just had shady, shady **** going on. Since she was foster kid... i think people judged her. And by all statics she should be cutting her self in prison with  10 kids. Heck I think I‘m pretty hard and... I think a year of her life... any year in her life, and I‘d‘ve killed someone. from day one this girl‘s been fighting, and I‘m just so happy for this!

She was happy. When I was 18 I used to hang out with her and her two sons and the love of her life, tommy. I remember her 6 months pregnaunt on the couch in a tiny HOT trailer (sitting in a bathing suit so hot) but she was so happy and so much fun and a total mom! Like, I‘m an only child so my first expirence with a baby baby... was her little boys... and now the oldest one‘s freaking 11!

Alright... I‘ve been drinking so no more bloging.. Night ladies :)


Topic: if this were a guy... what should they have done?
Subject: if this were a guy... what should they have done? - Posted: 2/5/2009 9:02:56 PM
timeout wrote:
sunny fl wrote:

maybe he wanted to move out because he was 42 and she was 28??  That is a big difference!



Perhaps she‘d waved the sword around before too!


?????

Topic: if this were a guy... what should they have done?
Subject: if this were a guy... what should they have done? - Posted: 2/6/2009 6:01:26 AM
timeout wrote:
not pissed wrote:
timeout wrote:
sunny fl wrote:

maybe he wanted to move out because he was 42 and she was 28??  That is a big difference!



Perhaps she‘d waved the sword around before too!


?????


Sorry - sometimes I don;t think before I type!

What I meant was that the chances are, if she‘s obviously unhinged and had a sword in the house, maybe it wasn‘t the first time she‘d waved it around.

That would make me want to move out, anyway.


hell yeah! I think it‘s sad really. there‘s really not a lot of help for men in domestic violence situations. Please ladies teach you kids boundaries. I think if they have some of their own, the respect others bettter

Topic: I got the job!!!!
Subject: I got the job!!!! - Posted: 2/11/2009 6:11:13 PM

yay! So I am the administrative assistant for the guardian at litem of sc 14 judicial district

Who‘s your daddy!

 for all the wishes and prayers! I am so excited!

health insurance... but if I didn‘t have to pay for that I‘d be just above the poverty line... with it, I‘m just below... but I‘ve survived on about 5 grand a year for the last decade so this will be way better!


Topic: I got the job!!!!
Subject: I got the job!!!! - Posted: 2/16/2009 6:58:43 PM
bubblecropper wrote:
Busty got a job and I got start a part-time counselling job next week...so your good luck has rubbed off NP! Nice one xx


oh congratz busty! and thanks everyone. I start tomorrow. Wednsday I got to go to columbia for orentation for the state.then thursday I go to COSY training with my mom. they are doing animal training with horses... weird timing don‘t you think? :)

wish me luck!!!!


Topic: Young & Restless actress Barbara Niven endorses WomanSavers.com
Subject: Young & Restless actress Barbara Niven endorses WomanSavers.com - Posted: 2/17/2009 4:45:53 AM
woo whoo! you go girl :)

Topic: Young & Restless actress Barbara Niven endorses WomanSavers.com
Subject: Young & Restless actress Barbara Niven endorses WomanSavers.com - Posted: 2/18/2009 2:51:25 PM

hey second day on the job today. I am loving it. I also took another volunteer GAL case... so I have 2 now.

I moved out of the home I was living at and moved in with my granny and papa yesterday. We‘re hooking up the hot tub this weekend  (granny‘s b-day present from 2004 she never used.)

I only work 30 hours a week so it works 9-3 and I‘m lining up apointments with my "mom friends" whose going to make me coffee int he mornings. Granny‘s got a coffee machine that looks like a space ship... I don‘t know how to use it.

Life‘s good. Can‘t complain at all. I have to go to columbia tomorrow but they pay me .50 a mile and it‘s $130 they reimburse me for the trip and I get a day‘s pay out it so that‘s not bad.

I promise to get on more... it‘s just been a little wild.

love ya‘ll

 


Topic: Update on my sister...for Lorrie (and anyone else who has been through this!)
Subject: Update on my sister...for Lorrie (and anyone else who has been through this!) - Posted: 2/18/2009 6:15:48 PM

I am so sorry your family is going through this. How did the "false satement" get written up in the report? I don‘t know how they do it there... but in a divorce there is a lawyer assigned to kids in custody cases, a private GAL. They can talk to the kids and can tell the judge the kids request.

My prayers are with you guys. I hope everything turns out all right.


Topic: SC lowcountry elder service listings
Subject: SC lowcountry elder service listings - Posted: 2/24/2009 5:59:06 PM

just something I‘ve been working on... part of a bigger project. I thinkI am going to try and expand on it. I wanted to do a big poster, but now... I think the family services might better be distrubuted in a tri-fold pamplet

anyways...

I think I might try, if I do a pamplet, giving a one or two line description of each to help show what they have

 

Lowcountry Elder Services

 

Agape Hospice of the Lowcountry

P.O. Box 718 / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 645-2290/ Website: www.agapesenior.com

Alzheimer’s Family Services of Greater Beaufort

P.O. Box 1514 / Beaufort , SC 29901-1514

(843) 521-9190

Alzheimer’s Respite and Resources

3001 Meeting Street / Hilton Head Island , Sc 29926

(843) 842-6688/ Website: www.alzheimersrr.org

American Parkinson Disease Association

135 Parkinson Avenue / Staten Island , NY 10305

1-800-223-2732/ Website: www.apdaparkinson.org

Beaufort County Department of Social Services (DSS)

1905 Duke Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 470-4600

Beaufort County Health Department (Beaufort)

601 Wilmington Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 525-7615/ Website: www.scdhec.gov/region8

Beaufort County Health Department (Bluffton)

4819 Bluffton Parkway / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843) 757-2251/ Website: www.scdhec.gov/region8

Beaufort County Veteran’s Affairs

P.O. Drawer 1228/ Beaufort , SC 29901

(843) 470-4740/ Website: www.bcgov.net   

Beaufort Jasper Hampton Comprehensive Health Services

Chelsea (987-7400); Sheldon (846-2086); St. Helena (838-2086);

Beaufort (986-0900); Hardeeville (784-2181); Ridgeland (726-3939);

Hampton (943-2233); and Estill (625-2548)

Website: www.bjchs.com

Beaufort Memorial HospitalMain

955 Ribaut Road / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 522-5200/ Website: www.bmhsc.org

Beaufort Memorial HospitalDiabetes Care Center

Beaufort Medical Plaza / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843)522-5600/ Website: www.bmhsc.org (go to services)

Beaufort Memorial HospitalKeyserling Cancer Center

1680 Ribaut Road / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 522-7800/ Website: www.bmhsc.org  

Beaufort Memorial Hospital – Rehabilitative Services

989 Ribaut Road, #330 / Beaufort , SC 29901  

(843) 522-5630

Care One Home Health

23 Plantation Park Dr. Suite 503 / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843) 815-8088

Coastal Carolina Medical Center

1000 Medical Center Drive / Hardeeville , SC 29927

(843) 784-8000/ Website: www.ccmc-cares.com

Comfort Keepers

P.O. Box 1019 / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843) 757-7731/ Website: www.comfortkeepers.com

Community Health Improvement Program (CHIP)

955 Ribaut Road / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 522-5568/ Website: www.bmhsc.org (under services)

Commun-I-Care, Inc

P.O. Box 186 / Columbia , SC 29202-0186

(803) 933-9183, 1-800-763-0059/ Website: www.communicare.us

Community Long Term Care

P.O. Box 2065 / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 726-5353

Diabetes Initiative of South Carolina

P.O. Box 250565 , Room 273/ Rutledge Towers / Charleston , SC 29403

(843) 876-0968

Epilepsy Foundation of South Carolina

625 Bush River Road / Columbia , SC 29210

(803) 798-8502/ Website: www.epilepsisc.org

Family Services, Inc

4925 Lacross Road Ste. 215 / North Charleston , SC 29406

1-800-232-6489/ Website: www.familyserviceschassc.com

Francois Community House

99 Possum Hill/ Beaufort , SC 29906

(843) 846-1579

Friends of Caroline Hospice

1110 13th Street / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 525-6257/ Website: www.carolinehospice.org

Gullah Church Nurses Association

P.O. Box 113 / St. Helena Island , SC 29920

(843) 838-5826

Hilton Head Regional Medical Center

25 Hospital Center Blvd. / Hilton Head Island , SC 29926

(843) 681-6122/ Website: www.hiltonheadregional.com

Hilton Head Regional – Mid Island Primary Care Center

Medical Pavilion, Suite 300 / 25 Hospital Center Blvd / Hilton Head Island , SC 29926

(843) 681-2074/ Website: www.hiltonheadregional.com

Hilton Head Regional – Bluffton / Okatie

40 Okatie Center Blvd. S. / Okatie , SC 29909

(843) 705-8800, (843) 705-8888/ Website: www.hiltonheadregional.com

Hilton Head Regional – Burnt Church Primary & Urgent Care Center

1 Burnt Church Road/ Bluffton , SC 29910       

(843) 705-8915/ Website: www.hiltonheadregional.com

Home Instead

7505 Waters Ave. F-2/ Savannah , GA 31412

(843) 842-3372

Hospice Care Of America

21 Professional Village Circle / Beaufort , SC 29907

(843) 322-0063, 1-800-762-8568

Hospice Care of the Lowcountry

P.O. Box 3872 / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843) 706-2296

Island Health Care of Beaufort

1211 Newcastle Road , Suite D/ Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 522-0296/ Website: www.thagroup.org

Jasper County Council on Aging

P.O. Box 641 , 30 Main St. / Hardeeville , SC 20036

(843) 726-5601

Jasper County Veteran’s Affairs

7554 West Main St. / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 726-7727

Lifeline Monitoring Service

P.O. Box 2117 / Hilton Head Island , SC 29925

1-800-543-3546

Lowcountry Council of Governments – Area Agency on Aging

P.O. Box 98 / Yemmassee , SC 29945

(843) 726-5536

Medic Alert International

2323 Colorado Avenue / Turlock , CA 95382

1-800-ID-ALERT (432-5378)

Palmetto Animal League

P.O. Box 539 / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843) 227-2691/ Website: www.palmettoanimalleague.org

Senior Services of Beaufort County

1408 Paris Avenue / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 254-1787/ Website: www.seniorservicesofbeaufort.org

S.H.A.R.E Senior Center

6 Office Way Suite 915 / Hilton Head Island , SC 29928

(843) 785-6444

Social Security Administration

2212 Mossy Oaks Road / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 524-5795

South Carolina State OMBUDSMAN Office

(803) 734-5049/ Website: www.oepp.sc.gov/ombudsman

South Carolina Veteran’s Services

1205 Pendleton Street, Suite 369 / Columbia , SC 29201          

(803) 734-0200/ Website: www.govoepp.state.sc.us/va

United Way of Bamberg, Colleton and Hampton Counties

P.O. Box 200 / Walterboro , SC 29488

(843) 549-9594/ Website: www.unitedwayofbch.org

United Way of the Lowcountry, Inc – Helpline

2266 Boundary Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 524-4357, (843) 686-4357, (843) 757-4357/ Website: www.uwlowcountry.org

Volunteer Medical Transportation

P.O. Box 531 / Allendale , SC 29810

(803) 584-3477, 1-866-735-6919/ Website: www.gotohiltonheadisland.com/bus  

Volunteers In Medicine

15 Northridge Drive / Hilton Head Island , SC 29926

(843) 681-6612/ Website: www.vimclinic.org

Volunteers Outreach in Community Effort

City of Beaufort Police Department/ 990 Ribaut Rd. / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 322-7913


Topic: SC lowcountry Children‘s services
Subject: SC lowcountry Children‘s services - Posted: 2/24/2009 6:15:36 PM

Babynet

1407 King Street / Beaufort SC 29902

(843) 525-4085

Beaufort County Department of Social Services

1905 Duke Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 470-4600

Beaufort County Disabilities and Special needs

P.O. Box 129 / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843)470-6300, (843) 470-6282

Beaufort County First Steps

P.O. Box 6421 / Beaufort , SC 29903

(843) 379-7840

Beaufort County Health Department (Beaufort)

601 Wilmington Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 525-7615 

Beaufort County Health Department (Bluffton)

4819 Bluffton Parkway / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843) 757-2251

Beaufort County Library

311 Scott Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 525-4071/ Website: www.beaufortcountylibrary.org  

Beaufort County School District

P.O. Box 309 / Beaufort , SC 29901

(843) 322-2371

BJEOC – Headstart Program

P.O. Box 2296 / Beaufort , SC 29901

(843) 470-4512

Beaufort Memorial Hospital – Healthlink for Children

1100 Ribeaut Road / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 522-5900/ Website: www.bmhsc.org  

Born to Read

2266 Boundary Street Ste. 202 / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 379-3350

Boy Scouts – Costal Carolina Council

1025 Sam Rittenberg Blvd/ Charleston, SC 29407

(843)763-0305/ Website: www.coastalcarolinabsa.org  

Boys & Girls Club of the Lowcountry

17b Marshellen Drive / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843)575-5430

Child Abuse Prevention Association (CAPA)

P.O. Box 531 / Beaufort , SC 29901

(843) 524-4350/ Website: www.islc.net/capa  

Children’s Relief Fund

P.O. Box 22574 / Hilton Head Island , SC 29925

(843) 681-7668

Collaborative Organization of Services for Youths (COSY)

P.O. Box Drawer 1228/ Beaufort , SC 29901

(843) 322-5414

Disabled Children’s Relief Fund

P.O. Box 89 Freeport , New York 11520

Website: www.dcrf.com  

DNA diagnostics Center

205 Corporate Court/ Fairfield , Ohio 45014

Toll Free: 1-800-362-2368 Ext. 614

Easter Seals – South Carolina

P.O. Box 5715 / Columbia , SC 29250

1-800-951-4090, (803) 466-4099/ Website: www.eastersealssc.org  

Epilepsy Foundation of South Carolina

625 Bush River Road / Columbia , SC 29210

(803) 798-8502 

Epworth Children’s Home

P.O. Box 50466 / Columbia , SC 29250-0455

(803) 256-7349/ Website: www.epworthchildrenshome.org  

Family Connection of South Carolina, Inc

2712 Middleburn Drive Ste. 103B / Columbia , SC 29204

1-800-578-8750/ Website: www.familyconnection.org  

Family, Adult &Children’s Education Services (FACES)

P.O. Drawer 309/ Beaufort , SC 29901-0309

(843) 521-2399/ Website: www.beaufort.school.net.com  

Girl Scouts of Eastern South Carolina

P.O. Box 7503 / Hilton Head Island , SC 29928

(843) 842-3444/ Website: www.girlscoutsesc.org  

Hardeeville Community Library

37 Main Street / Hardeeville , SC 29927

(843)784-3426

Heroes on Horseback

P.O. Box 3678 / Bluffton , SC 29910

(843)757-5607/ Website: www.heroesonhorseback.org  

Hilton Head Island Recreation Association, Inc

20 Wilborn Road / Hilton Head Island , SC 29925

(843) 681-7273/ Website: www.islandreccenter.org  

Hilton Head Regional Medical Center

25 Hospital Center Blvd. / Hilton Head Island , SC 29926

(843) 689-8302/ Website: www.hiltonheadregional.com  

Hilton Head Regional – Bluffton / Okatie

40 Okatie Center Blvd. S. / Okatie , SC 29909

(843) 705-8800, (843) 705-8888/ Website: www.hiltonheadregional.com  

Hope Haven of the Lowcountry

P.O. Box 2502 / Beaufort , SC 29906

(843) 524-2256, (843) 524-6699

Toll Free: 1-800-637-7273/ Website: www.hopehavenlc.org  

Jasper County Board of Disabilities and Special Needs

1512 Grays Hwy. / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 726-4499

Jasper County Department of Health and Human Services

204 North Jacob Smart Blvd. / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 726-7747

Jasper County Department of Social Services

204 North Jacob Smart Blvd. / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 726-7747

Jasper County Health Department

359 E. Wilson Street / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843)726-7788

Jasper County School District

P.O. Box 848 / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843) 717-1100

Low Country Health District Children’s Rehabilitative Services

1407 King Street / Beaufort SC 29902

(843) 525-4075

Make a Wish Foundation of South Carolina

3520 Meeks Farm Road , Suite C/ John’s Island , SC 29455

1-800-293-9474

Penn Center

P.O. Box 126 / St. Helena Island , SC 29920

(843) 838-2432

Pratt Memorial Library

451-A Wilson Street / Ridgeland , SC 29936

(843)470-5087

S.C. Department of Social Services – Child Support Enforcement Division

3346 Rivers Avenue , Suite E/ North Charleston , SC 29405

1-800-768-5858/ Website: www.state.sc.us/dss/csed

Social Security Administration

2212 Mossy Oaks Road / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 524-5795

South Carolina Autism Society

806 12th Street, Suite 203 / W. Columbia , SC 29169

(803) 750-6988, 1-800-438-4790

South Carolina School for the Deaf and Blind

355 Cedar Springs Road / Spartanburg , SC 29302-4699

1-888-447-2732 (voice/TTY) / Website: http://www.scsdb.org/

Special Olympics – South Carolina

Dutch Plaza ; 810 Dutch Square Blvd, Suite 204 / Columbia , SC 29210

(803)772-1555/ Website: www.so-sc.org   

Specialized Alternative for Families and Youth of America

10100 Elida Road / Delphos , Ohio 45833

1-800-532-7239/ Website: www.safy.org  

Thornwell Home and School for Children

P.O. Box 60 / Clinton , SC 29325-0060

(864) 938-2100

Thumbs Up, Inc

P.O. Box 325 / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 986-5437

Unitedway of Bamberg, Hampton and Colleton Counties

P.O. Box 200 / Walterboro , SC 29488

(843) 549-9594/ Website: www.unitedwayofbch.org  

Untiedway of the Lowcountry, Inc –Helpline

2266 Boundary Street / Beaufort , SC 29902

(843) 524-4357, (843) 686-4357, (843) 757-4357/ Website: www.uwlowcountry.org  

Unitedway – Success By 6 Family Learning Center

62 New Orleans Road / Hilton Head Island , SC 29938

(843)686-4304/ Website: www.uwlowcountry.org  

Wil Lou Gray Opportunity SchoolYouth Challenge Academy

3300 West campus Road/ West Columbia , SC 29170

(803) 896-6480

YMCA of Beaufort County

1801 Richmond Ave. / Port Royal , SC 29935

(843) 251-1861

 


Topic: SC lowcountry Children‘s services
Subject: SC lowcountry Children‘s services - Posted: 2/24/2009 6:18:51 PM
So rough draft.... I ‘m going to redo with up-dated websites and I‘m going to recheck all the numners in the next couple days

Topic: what is wrong with guys in my town?
Subject: what is wrong with guys in my town? - Posted: 2/24/2009 6:22:41 PM

Sheriff‘s Office: Coosaw man confesses to killing girlfriend Monday night

Published Tue, Feb 24, 2009 12:00 AM
From staff reports
 
 
 

A 28-year old Coosaw Island man was arrested Tuesday after confessing to killing his girlfriend hours earlier during a domestic dispute.

 

Steven Kerry Abraham has been charged with the murder of his girlfriend, Connie Joanne McDermott, 48, and is being held at the Beaufort County Detention Center pending a bond hearing and possible additional charges, according to a news release from the Beaufort County Sheriff‘s Office.

Abraham showed up at the Beaufort County Sheriff‘s Office at about 12:45 p.m. Tuesday and requested to make a statement, the release said.

According to the Sheriff‘s Office, Abraham told authorities that just after midnight last night, he and McDermott began fighting at the home they shared at 36 Friendship Lane on Coosaw Island. The dispute turned physical and spilled into the yard.

Once outside the home, the fight continued and Abraham killed McDermott, stabbing her an unknown number of times. Abraham then attempted to conceal McDermott‘s body by burying her under a pile of dirt in the backyard.

Investigators searched the property and found McDermott‘s body at about 2:30 p.m. Tuesday, confirming Abraham‘s statement, the Sheriff‘s Office release said.

An autopsy is pending.

 

so this is my crazy ex‘s cousin, one ex who is on here.

Freaking crackheads 


Topic: I‘m starting to hate this town
Subject: I‘m starting to hate this town - Posted: 2/27/2009 6:05:25 PM

john Gillies

plead guilty for "Assault / Assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature" according to bcgov.net

he recieved this at the sentance  "18 months suspended, probation 18 months. NO CONTACT WITH VICTIM, counseling/Credit Time Served (4 hours) /Jail Suspended."

I am so disapointed! I have been waiting.... I wanted to go see the hearing; I figured he‘d plead, but I thought he‘d get listed as a sex offender at least. grrr...

Man who ran nudist resort in Pelion charged with child sexual assault

Updated: Oct 22, 2007 03:50 PM EDT

PELION, SC (WIS) - The man who ran a nudist resort in Pelion is charged with child sexual assault in a case that goes back 24 years.

John Gillies, 67, is also linked to a case that WIS News 10 has been investigating for weeks. He has been released from jail on bond, after an arrest on child sexual assault charges in the late 80‘s.

Gillies was raising eyebrows in the Midlands - he and his wife creating Cedar Creek nudist colony in Pelion. Gillies posed naked in a newspaper, talking about how family nudism is important to him. In the article Gillies says he and his wife raised 12 kids between them.

WIS News 10 has learned that one of the children Gillies helped raise says he sexually assaulted her. In her statement to police, she says Gillies fondled her private parts in what she calls years of constant sexual molestation. She says it happened in the early 80‘s when she was 12 or 13. Gillies would have been in his early 40‘s.

After an investigation, Gillies was arrested and charged with lewd act on a child under 14, and criminal sexual conduct with a minor. He turned himself in Wednesday morning.

One Lowcountry mother is keeping a close eye on the case. Gillies is a relative. She thinks Gillies is molesting her son.

It‘s a case WIS first told you about in late September - a little boy we are calling "Billy." Billy recently told a forensic investigator that Gillies molested him.

Those allegations, the forensic investigator said in a letter to DSS, should be taken seriously. The letter said Billy showed no signs of coaching by his parents.

But his mom says when Gillies passed a polygraph, the sheriff‘s department closed its case.

A DSS investigator also closed Billy‘s case, saying sexual abuse could not be substantiated.

Now, after a contentious custody dispute, the mother continues to turn over her son for court-ordered visitation to a man she believes is sexually abusing him. "And it‘s waiting for hours to go by, and days to go by, and waiting for 6 o‘clock on Sunday to get here so I know he‘s okay, wondering what he went through this weekend and how long it‘s going to be before he tell his therapist about it."

His mom is hoping now that Gillies has been charged with sexual assault in another case, that everyone involved will reconsider Gillies‘ visitation rights with her son. "I feel like our son deserves justice too. He certainly deserves protection."

But that hasn‘t happened yet. Neither the sheriff‘s department, nor the Beaufort County Solicitors Office spokespeople would talk on camera. When WIS News 10‘s Kara Gormley asked a spokeswoman with the sheriff‘s department if they had plans to re-open Billy‘s case due to the new charges, she said it was up to the solicitor‘s office.

A spokeswoman with the solicitor‘s office said that her office has concerns about Billy‘s case, but said her office can‘t re-open the case until the sheriff‘s department brings it their office.

John Gillies is schedule to have Billy in his home this weekend. Billy‘s mother has already filed paperwork with family court. She‘s hoping that if a family court judge hears about Gillies arrest. That judge may stop visitation - but she says there‘s no way a judge will rule on the matter before this weekend.

Reported by Kara Gormley


Topic: child abuse awareness month, April
Subject: child abuse awareness month, April - Posted: 3/26/2009 11:36:36 AM

it‘s also volunteer month in South Carolina. I wanted to protote the guardian ad litem program for those of you who have extra time to help a child who is involved in litigation.

you could be the person who looks out for the best interest of kids where case workers are over worked and overwhelmed, as a GAL you have on one or two families to work for at a time making sure you aren‘t overwhelmed. You aren‘t switched around, so when you get to know you kids- you go from start to finish with that child. 

Please give it some thought. If you would like to help, but don‘t have time to become a volunteer GAL, there are organizations/ non-profits  that help abused children in you area that are always looking for donations of any sort.

 


Topic: child abuse awareness month, April
Subject: child abuse awareness month, April - Posted: 3/26/2009 11:37:11 AM
and don‘t forget to wear your blue ribbons (or dye hair blue)

Topic: child abuse awareness month, April
Subject: child abuse awareness month, April - Posted: 3/30/2009 11:48:52 AM
gusrdians act as advocates for kids in court... GAL is just shot for the Guardian Ad Litem program... you might know it as CASA

Topic: Batter‘s intervention Confrence
Subject: Batter‘s intervention Confrence - Posted: 4/3/2009 9:37:00 AM

April 17, 2009- Columbia though SCCADVASA

http://www.sccadvasa.org/conference.aspx

I‘m doing this and meeting with Bud Ferillo the director of corridor of shame- I signed up to do petitions for http://goodbyeminimallyadequate.com/

 

Yesterday I went to the press confrence and volunteer voices presentation for the GALs

I had fun, but I am never wearing those damned heels I did yesterday again!

 WeaR bLue RibboNs!


Topic: child abuse awareness month, April
Subject: child abuse awareness month, April - Posted: 4/9/2009 8:56:44 AM

I thought this was nice... This is part of an email sent from my boss to the rest of our Guardians  :)


"Most of you have already met or talked to Nicki Cadien.  She is the new member of the office staff.  Nicki trained to be a volunteer in October and was hired in February.  Between October and February she volunteered in the office and really helped us keep everything from getting completely out of control.  She will never replace Peggy who had so many years of experience and wisdom but Nicki is a bright and energetic life force.  Nicki is no stranger to the GAL program, her mother Toy Cadien was the original circuit coordinator for our office.  We will have to share her with the Hampton, Allendale and Colleton offices but she will be here the majority of the time."

 

I love my job here. I have to travel a bunch... but ya‘ll know me :p That‘s probably the funnest part, besides meeting new people. I have been helpping a new domestic violence victim who had to move qicker than expected when her child reported the abuse to the school. It‘s interesting learning 1st hand how the DSS child abuse cases are handeled. This job has introduced me to many of the people working on the new DV case... I don‘t know if that helps us or not, but... we‘ll see.

It‘s nice- this girl has always come with me to help others move, or clean their homes. This new victim has opened her own home for others she barley knew if they had children, and now that she‘s going through this- EVERY VICTIM I have helpped in the Bft area has brought her furniture, kids clothes, dishes- helpped her moved or babysat for her to go to work. I love the strength and heart my girls have.

I know I promised I‘d be on more but I‘ve been traveling and sick

Miss you all

peace

 


Topic: checklist for assessing men who abuse women
Subject: checklist for assessing men who abuse women - Posted: 4/21/2009 8:28:20 AM

CHECKLIST FOR ASSESSING CHANGE

IN MEN WHO ABUSE WOMEN

 

Admitting fully to what he has done

 

Stopping excuses

 

Stopping all blaming of her

 

Making amends

 

Accepting responsibility (recognizing that abuse is a choice)

 

Identifying patterns of controlling behavior, admitting their wrongness

 

Identifying the attitudes that drive his abuse

 

Accepting that overcoming abusiveness will be a decades-long process, not declaring himself cured

 

Not starting to say, “so now it’s your turn to do your work”, not using change as a bargaining chip

 

Not demanding credit for improvements he has made

 

Not treating improvements as chips or vouchers to be spent on occasional acts of abuse (e.g. “I haven’t done anything like this in a long time, so why are you making such a big deal about it?”)

 

Developing respectful, kind, supportive behaviors

 

Carrying his weight

 

Sharing power

 

Changing how he is in highly heated conflicts

 

Changing how he responds to his partner’s (or former partner’s) anger and grievances

 

Changing his parenting / Changing his treatment of her as a parent

 

Changing his attitudes towards females in general

 

Accepting the consequences of his actions (including not feeling sorry for himself about those consequences, and not blaming her or the children for them)


Topic: stand up against domestic violence
Subject: stand up against domestic violence - Posted: 4/21/2009 8:30:28 AM

Domestic violence is a pattern

of abusive and controlling behaviors that

some individuals use against their

intimate partners or former partners. It

can include:

Physical Abuse: Hitting, slapping, punching,

shoving, kicking, burning, choking, using weapons

and other objects to cause injury.

Sexual Abuse: Forcing a partner to engage in

unwanted sexual acts, refusing to practice safe sex,

treating a partner like a sex object.

Emotional Abuse/Intimidation: Name-calling and

put-downs; denying/shifting blame; treating a

partner as an inferior; threatening to harm self/

others or to have a partner deported; abusing

children or pets; stalking; using threatening looks,

actions or gestures.

Property/Economic Abuse: Stealing or destroying

belongings/money; refusing basic needs such as food

or medical treatment; interfering with a partner’s

work or education.

Joining the Effort

To stop domestic violence, we all need to work

together. The following are some things that you

can do to help:

Help a friend who is being abused. Let her

know that the abuse is not her fault, listen to her,

help her to identify resources and options,

empower her to make choices for her safety, and

provide nonjudgemental support and an

opportunity for her to seek your support again.

Support your local domestic violence program

Most hotlines, advocacy or shelter organizations

could benefit from your time, financial support

or other donations. Call them to find out how to

help in your area.

Speak up about abuse. Let abusers know their

behavior is wrong and encourage them to get

help. If you see abuse, call the police — doing

nothing can make the abuse worse and even

deadly.

Educate yourself and others. Call your local

domestic violence program to schedule

informational workshops for your workplace,

community group or church. Encourage schools

to include abuse prevention as part of their

curricula.

Set an example. Make a committment to work

for equality and ending violence in all of its

forms. Model non-violent and respectful

behavior through your everyday actions.

 

Knowing the Facts

¨ Domestic violence is a social problem. It is

rooted in social values that place importance

on people having power over others, and allow

violence against women and other groups to

occur without punishment.

¨ Battering is not caused by using drugs or

alcohol, mental illness, being “provoked,”

stress, or poor anger control batterers

choose to be abusive.

¨ There are many barriers for battered women

seeking to escape abuse including: fear of

injury; shame and self-blame; lack of money,

resources and support; social pressures to keep

their family together and other cultural

taboos.

Racism, homophobia, ageism and

discrimination based on physical ability,

nationality or other factors can make finding

safety even more difficult for some women.

¨ Battering can have many effects on victims

such as: lowered self-confidence, physical

illness and disability, difficulty trusting self/

others, and poverty. Despite these effects,

battered women find many creative and

courageous ways to survive and protect

themselves and their children.

¨ There is no simple way to identify or describe

batterers. Often they are well-respected

members of their communities.


Topic: checklist for assessing men who abuse women
Subject: checklist for assessing men who abuse women - Posted: 4/24/2009 7:03:24 PM

 

 

http://www.emergedv.com/abuserfaq.html#2)%20DOES%20BATTERER%20INTERVENTION%20WORK?

2) DOES ABUSER EDUCATION WORK?

This question is commonly asked, but does not have a simple answer. Abuser education programs may work for those people who take the information and use it to stop harming others.

A comparable question might be ‘Does education and treatment for drinking and driving offenders really work?‘ The answer would also be similar: someone who truly wants to stop drinking will work to do so. Someone who doesn‘t take such services seriously is at greater risk to re-offend.

Ongoing studies continue to look for a definitive answer to this question, researcher  Edward Gondolf has conducted a study comparing different Abuser Education Program formats (For more information on this study CLICK HERE). Another resource for this question is Jeffrey Edelson‘s work (for more information CLICK HERE). 


Topic: for google purposes
Subject: for google purposes - Posted: 5/5/2009 9:02:07 AM

so when a guy is posted on the rate a guy and you google his name... it‘s not showing up

I‘m wanting to see if I post it in the fourm, if google will catch the name then

Beverly/ Martin , Daniel E. Beaufort South Carolina United States 37
Carr , Chris/ Christian Beaufort South Carolina United States 23
Collier , William Andrew Beaufort South Carolina United States 14
Davis , Michael Lynn Beaufort South Carolina United States 40
Foskey , Jacob Beaufort South Carolina United States
Gillies , John Philip Beaufort South Carolina United States
Hunt , William Rion Beaufort South Carolina United States 13
King , David Scott Beaufort South Carolina United States
Leggett , Richard Beaufort South Carolina United States
Mathers , Allen Beaufort South Carolina United States 12
Paxton , Greg Beaufort South Carolina United States 43
Ramirez , Ernest R Beaufort South Carolina United States 53
Roeder , Andrew Beaufort South Carolina United States
Wick , Tim John Beaufort


Topic: for google purposes
Subject: for google purposes - Posted: 5/8/2009 3:41:29 PM

man my bells are shaping up pretty tough now too! I swear, they get meaner and more active every new victim we get. it‘s nice to see them all pull together to help someone else in need out though.

love you girls. Hope all is well and happy mother‘s day!


Topic: LMWS
Subject: LMWS - Posted: 5/17/2009 7:02:31 AM

I went to a networking luncheon the other day for work. My boss said, as I was walking out the door- not to foget to advertise for womansavers since I was going to put stuff out for the Guardian Ad Litem program... So I brought out the business card and some bumper stickers and everyone there LOVED the concept of this site. One guy runs another website (I have to wait till I‘m in the office with the card there) but he asked me if he could post a link to this site and if I could get a little paragraph about the site so he can run an article about it and share with his email listing. It‘s a behavioural health center on Hilton Head Island... 

Anyways, I told him I‘d contact you.. I don‘t know nothing about this computer stuff :) but I‘m sure you have some way.

I hope all is well.

 


Topic: hey ya‘ll
Subject: hey ya‘ll - Posted: 5/31/2009 6:48:21 PM

so I am at the sc victims assistance academy! I will have the next 5 days here in columbia doing an intense training to learn about the services and advocacy here in SC. The networking is great! I brought the rest of my womansaver‘s parfanilia to pass out. Tonight was the opening night with introductions and diner. It‘s mostly victim‘s advocates (LE) 39 women, 2 men... so far I‘ve only seen one guy but everyone seems very nice.
Anyways, I haven‘t been on in a while so I just wanted to say hey.

Been busy with my latest vic in beaufort. Actually MUSC institute of psycharity is getting behind her and they‘‘ve assessed her husband and wrote a beautiful letter to the Guardian ad Litem saying that he won‘t listen to their suggestions on alernatives to corpral punishment with the children and that he needs counseling that turns into family counseling before he has unsupervised visitation. Now that won‘t help for the next 30 days... the judge ordered joint custody while the guardian ad litem does an investigation, but I can‘t imagine her not listening to MUSC when writing her report to the court. I am so glad they are going the extra mile! So is the mother!

alright, till next time :)

 


Topic: hey guys!
Subject: hey guys! - Posted: 7/3/2009 8:21:53 PM

hope everyone has a great, safe 4th of July!

 

 

 

 

Thanks to all who fight to keep our country safe!

Hope your night is fun!

 

 


Topic: hey shally, and all!!!
Subject: hey shally, and all!!! - Posted: 7/8/2009 11:58:02 AM

so i have a little time to talk now that i‘m down with a knee sprain. It wasn‘t that bad until I went to the doctor yesterday and they drained it and put cortizone in it. There wasn‘t a lot of fluid on it to begin with, but the doc made it sound like the shot was going to take it all away. it didn‘t. My leg hurts now just to stand up!

Before when I put weight on it it hurt, but now there‘s more swelling than there was even when I tore the ligiments last year!

I had a dream I tried to amputate it myself, and they gave me the surgery... I think in reality I‘d get a trip to the hospital alright..

But I wish it wasn‘t so annoying. My birthdady‘s on the 14th and my first party starts this saturday. pool party, but no no no... I‘ll be in the imobilizer.

And I did the watermelon festival parade 3 days after it happened. I don‘t know what I would have done with out my friends. They drove and decorated... it was nice, but then I got the waterfestival parade for not only the Guardian ad Litem, but I am also going to have the child abuse prevention association (CAPA) material on our float. They aren‘t going to be able to do one and I really like the staff and volunteers so... they‘ll buy the decorations and I got a truck from Dukes with a driver. Dukes Towing is the ones that moved my things from when Tim and I split. I‘m excited, but I have the first day of physical therapy tomorrow and that scares me.

Well, I am sorry I haven‘t been on alot, but I am putting together a couple different projects... I have an old victim I found out has just gotten assaulted by her new boyfriend, a guy that told me not 2 weeks ago that her 6 year old "knows all about blog jobs" then winked. Sorry bastards... see this leg thing just gets in the way. If i haddn‘t had been on a tramploine sitting with the little girl, my shoes and cane on the ground benieth where the guy was standing.... ohhhh.....

but he‘s got it comming. I‘m sad that this girl doesn‘t get it. She‘s so touchy, she ask for help, but has trouble letting people help her instead of rescusing her. I can‘t rescue anyone. I can barely get the things done I need to and I am not going to stand by when she dates a guy that out of jail for conspiring to murder one of my "olds" and his girlfriend at the time. And while the cops were investigating he went to the funeral and signed the guest book; evil son of a bi tch!

anyways, her moms getting a hair cut tonight, I wonder if i‘ll see her. I told her the last time I saw her, I‘d help her with anything she needed after he was gone and I haven‘t seen her since; 2 weeks ago. This morning was when I heard about the bruises and she‘s not staying at her house because he‘s there... i hope she gets into therapy after this one. I hope she presses charges against this one.

anyways, I hope you are all doing alright. I miss you guys! Please keep my knee, and me in your prayers, ya‘ll are always in mine


Topic: hey shally, and all!!!
Subject: hey shally, and all!!! - Posted: 7/9/2009 8:30:35 PM

i went to the pt today and they want me to come 3x/ week for the next 6 weeks starting on my birthday. and I had to cry to get them to schedule it after 3pm. all of them are different days of the week some of them are at 3:15 some at 4:30 one is even 8 am! grrrr....

I hate this doctor thing :(


Topic: LMWS
Subject: LMWS - Posted: 7/10/2009 11:57:16 AM

so I‘m add. The guys name is David Diana and he runs Palmetto Lowcountry Behavioral Health. www.palmettobehavioralhealth.com

it‘s located out of Charleston, SC


Topic: LMWS
Subject: LMWS - Posted: 7/18/2009 1:24:47 PM

hey no problem, I don‘t know what I would have done without you guys... I want others to know how empowered the other women, info and place to post their ex can be! When I do my LEO training I want to print the list from SC out and see how many cops recognize names from around here :)

 


Topic: my parade float!
Subject: my parade float! - Posted: 7/20/2009 7:27:35 PM

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hey this was the parade float I put together with help from Duke‘s towing and CAPA and lots of wonderful friends and or their children.

I had a blast!


Topic: my parade float!
Subject: my parade float! - Posted: 7/20/2009 7:27:35 PM

 

http://www.slide.com/r/iH8PMmLOwD-CgfQx1PAVf84lJ9PsK4Br

 

 

hey this was the parade float I put together with help from Duke‘s towing and CAPA and lots of wonderful friends and or their children.

I had a blast!

this one is from 1984 from when my mom did it for Foster care and CAPAs open arms shelter. Iam sitting in her lap and the blonde up front is harmony my sister... don‘t know who anyone else is :) I couldn‘t get the photo‘s to load from this parade but my boss lady made a show


Topic: ex- husband might be charged with date rape!
Subject: ex- husband might be charged with date rape! - Posted: 7/22/2009 11:59:57 AM

call it what you will, I am just glad it works.

how do you feel now that this new charge is there?

It hurt when my ex murdered that lady. i think I was more mad that I did try to tell everyone about him and people were like "let it go"... "get on with your life"... "why worry about him?" well, I knew what he was capable of. I didn‘t think it‘s be with a 78 year old woman, but I knew he was dangerous.

Then came the relief that I wasn‘t hurt more than I was.

I‘m still a little angry, It might say "not pissed"... but, everytime I hear how cops treat victim, or when I see them tell victims there‘s nothing they can do and I know they are WRONG that‘s what keeps me advocating. I don‘t want someone who wants to press charges or to have their story told not be able to... like me. (except for here and domestic violence awareness events) 

It must have been satisfying to see him in that state. a question though... how are you doing as far as moving on? Your hopefully not having anyone accuse you of rape, but are you living?

 


Topic: my parade float!
Subject: my parade float! - Posted: 7/22/2009 12:26:49 PM

Child Protection Top Priority In Beaufort Area

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The Volunteer Guardian ad Litem Program (GAL) and the Child Abuse Prevention Association (CAPA) joined together to participate in the 54th Annual Water Festival Parade this past weekend.

Courtney Cadien, float organizer, is no stranger to either program. She remembers riding with her mother and sister 25 years ago aboard the Christmas float for the Open Arms Shelter. “With our float, we hope to continue spreading awareness about child abuse and recruit volunteers for both programs” said Courtney. “CAPA has been a part of the Guardian ad Litem Program’s success since its beginning in March 1986. We couldn’t work without their continued support and I’m happy to work alongside them now.”

CAPA’s Open Arms Shelter, established in 1985, is open 24 hours per day, 365 days per year. The shelter houses youth age birth to 21 years who have been removed from an abusive or neglectful situation.  Residents come from all areas of Beaufort County and nearby counties, if space is available.  Most residents live at the shelter for two to three months. The Open Arms Shelter uses volunteers to provide recreational activities for the residents, to tutor, bake birthday cakes, provide snacks… just to name a few of the rewarding choices.

The Guardian ad Litem Program recruits, trains, and supervises volunteers who are court-appointed to represent and advocate for the best interests of children in family court proceedings involving allegations of abuse or neglect.

“CAPA has held an account for the Guardian ad Litem Program and helps us to do the things not covered in our own budget. They help us to buy everything from office supplies to the ornaments used on our float today.”  Courtney says as she decorates. “Without the support of the community for both our organizations, our job would be…. harder.”

In other areas, there are Friends of the Guardian ad Litem Program; non- profit organizations such as in Friends of the Greenville County Guardian ad Litem Program in Greenville, South Carolina. Their