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I also have him profiled, several times, on dontdatehimgirl.com. See URLs up there, beginning with this one: http://ddhg.com/cheater_view/74748/ If you’ve caught him cheating and confront him about it, he will flip the script to make it seem like its all in your head and that you’re the one with issues when in reality he is the one shagging someone else, another man—‘bi’ men, another woman, either, both, or multiple others. He tells you about his ‘sad childhood’ to make you feel sorry for him. He told me that he was molested by his cousin as a child and about his mentor at Edgemeade-- though that part was confusing…he seems to ‘suggest’ –if you are listening closely to this story—that this ‘mentor’ might have also molested him. LISTEN CLOSELY. He will be in tears when he tells this one!) His pattern has been to manipulate women into giving him money and material things. [ ] he should be telling you about his multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple sex partners, STD's, any bank liens, mounting credit DEBT, and past/present appointments in BANKRUPTCY COURT. When he thinks you are on to him, and have the proof in your hands, he disappears. With me, it turned out that he wanted a woman to live with because otherwise he would’ve had to continue living with his mother. He is a compulsive cheater, a sociopathic liar, and will never stop. Please don't be duped; he has hurt too many of us already. Make him show you his divorce papers—from BOTH marriages/divorces—before proceeding with him. He’s not playing with a full deck! He will mirror your interests, tell you what you want to hear. Gifts and wining and dining will follow until you are hooked, then the abuse will begin. Subtly and incidiously, he will lie, dismiss, disappear, project, name call, , have affairs, use anyone for his needs, and when he is done you will be left with your head spinning and nearly ruined, as your credit history nearly will be (as his 2nd wife’s was or nearly was…he admitted that much to me.) The guy is a narcissisist and cannot feel empathy but will do his best with pulling the ‘pity me’ act. He plays the victim, and excels at it. I was his 4th long term, co-habiting relationship, (to my knowledge) and Melinda is his 5th (to my knowledge.) He nearly broke my spirit, my mind, and, with his down-low, extra-marital and ‘bi’ activities, could’ve seriously affected my physical health, too. He merely moved on to Ms. Next…Melinda…his next naive victim, leaving me broken, without any true explanation. He told me that his first wife, Patty, cheated on him; I think it was the other way around. He'll do anything to prevent being confronted. What he's after is to be supported by a woman and have NO responsibility. He’s in love with your paycheck; one that’s gone, he’s gone. He uses women for his own benefit, has a history of bankruptcy (before leaving me, he told me he still owed his sister, Paula Pendergast—not sure of spelling--$17,000 from a loan she’d made to him, and it was in a contract they signed, in case he went bankrupt, that he’d still owe her the money...they agreed that he couldn’t write his debt off to her, and he DID file for bankruptcy, while living with me), juvenile delinquency, alcoholism, visits to psychologist Michael Borash (this before dating me and while dating me), porn addiction, admitted history of incest, police record for peeing in public, and membership/advertising on a swingers’ site, for casual sex with men and others. See other profiles up here on him. His other locations, in the past, have been Manassas, Fairfax, Warrenton, and Vienna, Virginia. His legal name is Everett Raymond Brown Jr.
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8/14/2008 2:32:29 PM - To see photos of JAY BROWN, a.k.a. EVERETT RAYMOND BROWN JR., see http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/84065/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/84063/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/84057/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/89815/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/89817/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/89811/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/89800/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/cheater_view/84064/

8/14/2008 2:41:26 PM - I have also profiled him on playersandpsychos.com, so that makes four web sites on which I've posted profiles on Jay. Also, see PROFILE No.6, on datingpsychos.com. I believe on that particular profile, I listed names that I found on Jay's "buddy list" (apparently the bi guys and/or swingers he'd met and contacted, while still living with me)...see the one for "NOMOREGURLZ" (or a similar "handle") If any of your boyfriends lived in Virginia at that time (from May-June 2000), and were advertising for casual sex on line, they might have assumed any one of those "handles" (aliases) on Jay's list, to deceive you with "down-low" and casual sex, so I would be VERY concerned, if I were you, and if so.

5/24/2009 1:35:12 PM - UPDATE. Recently, I spoke with Jay''s 1st wife, Pattie. She told me that he''d cheated on her with the neighbor''s wife. She also told me that two gay friends of hers had told her that they''d slept with Jay. Please also see my most recent profiles on datingpsychos dot com...very revealing with details. Jay had told me that Pattie cheated on him. Looks like he flipped the script.

10/28/2009 11:43:01 AM - Below are contents of another profile I had up on datingpsychos.com, about him, but that website deleted it, so I''m posting this, below, and I will post it in sections. The photo I''ll upload later, was taken in the 1990’s, when he lived with me. Do his eyes show the expression of a sociopath? They do seem so, now, to me, in retrospect of the abuse I endured, sexual and psychological, from him, for years. Domestic Abuse whether it’s physical, mental, emotional, verbal or sexual happens in SECRET. Jay Brown, aka EVERETT RAYMOND BROWN JR, is, in my opinion, EXPERT at it. Never in my life has a guy misrepresented who he was more than Jay. He has a history of initiating relationships with women given how many women he’s lived with, as far as I know: 5 so far, luring them into a false sense of love/security/commitment, and apparently gets off trying to destroy other people’s marriages 3X, and his own 2X. He can fake emotions “being in love” very well. He, by far, is the most mercenary man I''ve ever known! He’s the kind of male that could, when he’s done with a woman, almost make her hate men, if she didn’t finally realize that there is a BETTER MAN out there, just waiting to truly love her. IMO, he’s a sociopathic gluttonnymphomaniac, and,..FACT!.. he advertised, in 2000, on a swingers’ site, that he was bisexual, and sought casual, discreet sex, with strangers and bisexual/bicurious men, after living with me for more than 8 years. His ad stated that he wanted to jack off “j/o” together, with a bi man! Yeah. I kept a copy. JAY THE FRAUD/DECEIVER plays head games with good women. He’ll make it seem like it was all the women’s fault, for why his relationships ended except for his and Evelyn Vignola’s relationship…somehow, he was able to remain “friends” with her, for years…will take no blame for any pain he caused. Responsible folks finish one relationship before moving on to the next.. are honest in what they say in person or in profile. Jay even LIED in that profile/ad he placed on the swingers’ site…stating he was age 48, when he was older closer to 50 or 51 Those are SERIOUS RED FLAGS or danger signs!

10/28/2009 11:43:42 AM - Seriously, people, I suspect that Jay is DEVELOPMENTALLY STUNTED..as in HIS EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT WAS ARRESTED STOPPED at age 12, and that THAT IS WHY HE WAS INSTITUTIONALIZED IN EDGEMEADE MD when he was a teen, during his delinquency, because Edgemeade is/was a place that institutionalized developmentally disabled minors. I speculate that he’s NOT PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK, and hasn’t done since age 12…the age he said he was when his gay male cousin, Paul Brown, had oral sex with him Paul, he said, was around age 15 at the time it happened. A “theme” of Jay’s is to use girlfriends or female friends to meet the next woman. For example, he met Debby through MariAne Fowler Rick Burnette’s wife. I think Debby was the second in a line of women with whom he cheated on his 2nd wife, Lori Janet, I think was the first. He met Melinda and Ed through a former supposed friend of mine Matt Andrea..I’d known Matt since I was a teen Matt was not a friend of Jay’s…Jay didn’t know Matt from then who also was a friend to Melinda and Ed. I think he met Janet when he worked with his 2nd wife, Lori, at that rock shop that Lori’s father ran/owned possibly, Janet was a customer of Lubon or Lubon’s..not sure how the name of their shop was spelled. So, it seems he uses one woman or the circumstances around her life, for example…admitted to Pattie, wife #1, that he’d sexed their neighbor’s wife to meet/sex the next woman.

10/28/2009 11:44:25 AM - He presents as charming and somewhat shy, but he’s cunning, and his sexual addictive ways could be deadly, since I finally discovered from his 1st wife, that he had sex with at least 2 gay men, when he was with her it was decades later, and after living with me for years, that I discovered his ad for sex with bi and bicurious men, that he’d posted on a swinger’s site, and he regularly watched gay male porn, to which I caught him masturbating. Weeks before he said he was leaving me, he was quietly learning Don Henley’s tune, “The Heart of the Matter” some folks think the title is “Forgiveness” on guitar, and I wondered to whom he was singing it to Pattie? Lori? Me?, or who he was about to impress with it, the way he’d first impressed me with his strumming/singing. Below is Jay''s Buddy List I kept a copy, after culling it, when he lived with me, and after living with me for more than 8 years he had given me his password, to use his computer, when I was job searching, showing the handles of the guys and others who contacted him in 2000, around the time I discovered it. Notice the one NoMoreGurlz3, about a third of the way down the list.

10/28/2009 11:44:56 AM - The stupid idiot IMO didn''t realize that I''d been working for one of the global IT leaders/companies in the world, so knew how to capture/cull information, before I became a part of a massive downsizing at my company. It let go 1400 workers, nationwide I was only one among hundreds in my region. We were all told, one month before the layoff, it would happen, and the last hired were the first to be let go. I was one of the last hired. Folks don’t collect unemployment insurance if something was wrong with their work conduct or skills, but to hear Jay Brown on this topic, you’d think he thought otherwise. ALL of those folks let go from that company collected unemployment, most probably, and collected it because THEY DID THE BEST WORK THEY COULD, even if undertrained, which many WERE undertrained there, else such would not have been posted, about that company, on the net! He complained about my income and net worth, probably because, I think, HE WANTS THE LITTLE WOMAN TO BE THE MAJOR BREADWINNER, NOT HIM.

10/28/2009 11:45:23 AM - Jay forgot or didn’t realize: 1 “traditionalist” men vie/compete for those highpaying professional jobs that women otherwise need, so want to keep “nontraditional” women out of the job market, often 2 too many men are still in control of recruiting/hiring, and too many of them want “eye candy” younger women, usually under age 40, to “decorate” their offices, as well as have the credentials, despite many older women having BETTER credentials 3 too many men, like gigolos, have jumped onto the “feminist bandwagon” as an excuse to work less than their female partners 4 often, elitists, either with nepotistic “connections”, and even with “mafialike connections” women of those ilks didn’t even need college degrees, got the highend, highpaying jobs, and others came by their careers sooner, when, in the 1970’s, for example, federal jobs were more plentiful, for nonminorities…not so, or not as much, since the 1980’s. It gets worse for women if they are “late bloomers” and did not achieve their college degrees until middle age but worked in lowpaying secretarial and administrative jobs, for decades, before that, and those situations prevail even if the women have no children, and are willing to work overtime/weekend hours which I did, for years that workers with children are often unwilling to work. I doubt if Jay had ever read Barbara Ehrenreich’s books, Nickel and Dimed: On Not Getting By in America, and Bait and Switch: The Futile Pursuit of the American Dream, nor realized that, for most of those years living with me, recession had hit hard—that many families were in the poor house, beginning in the 1990s. Jay was surrounded by what seemed to be nepotists. In fact, I suspect that Jay’s biological family didn’t teach him about the “evils” of nepotism..suspect that they saw no “wrong” with it. “The Brown clan helps its own” was one of his mother’s expressions. He noticed that his sister Paula gained from the financial help of her welltodo husband, Joe. He told me Paula’s husband financed her human resources outplacement business she was the one that lent him $17,000..MAYBE HE WISHED HE WERE A WOMAN? HE’D ASKED PATTIE, WIFE #1, IF SHE’D WEAR A STRAP ON PENIS..ASKED HER TO REVERSE SEXUAL ROLES, SHE SAID. The rock shop that Jay “married into” was, I think, run on nepotism. Lori had a job because her father owned the business that Jay married into Lori’s daughter would later work in her rock shop. Joyce, another of Jay’s sisters, helped her son, Mark out, when he returned from the Gulf War Mark worked in real estate with her, Jay said CODEPENDENT MUCH?. He noticed that his band buddy, Rick Fowler, married to MariAne Fowler, highlevel sales professional with Judd Inc. in Strasburg, VA had a goodpaying job with Judd. Most of my relatives worked for the federal government, where nepotism is not allowed relatives are not supposed to hire each other. I hate the bastard.

10/28/2009 11:45:51 AM - So, if any of you ladies found to your shock that your guy was using a discrete handle, and it was one of these, and your man lived in the DC/VA/MD area at that time first through 4th quarter of 2000, I would logically conclude that your guy might have also been on the downlow or is a swinger is my opinion. These names or handles came from Jay’s buddy list, around when I discovered he was on the downlow, in 2000, and he’d given me his password to use his computer I was jobsearching..he was, apparently, pretending to be understanding of my unemployment situation, in 2000. I saved this list to a disk, in 2000. Below are the handles I captured, mid year 2000, off Everett Raymond Brown Jr’s Jay Brown’s computer, around the time I also found/captured his membership emails, from a swingers'' site he’d joined. If these handles appeared in any of your men’s computers, in his email correspondence, then I WOULD SERIOUSLY BE CONCERNED that he is on the downlow, or involved in swinging activities, or advertising/soliciting same, as Jay was/did I HAVE PROOF and I would seriously be concerned for your own health, mental and physical. I still have hard copies of his emails from 2000, confirming his membership in The Swingers Directory www.swingdirect.com: To see what he looked like, at different stages in his life, see my other profiles, for Everett Raymond Brown Jr. aka Jay Brown, City: Chevy Chase, MD.

10/28/2009 11:46:16 AM - This is the buddy list people, who I assume and allege he was swinging with, from whom he received correspondence, in 2000. This was the list with which I confronted him, and, after doing so, he asked me please not to let his family know. He also, at one point, tried to pass off his gay pornviewing computer activities as just a distraction. DON''T BELIEVE HIM! HE''S BEEN LYING FOR MUCH OF HIS ADULT SEXUAL LIFE! Whenever I''d catch him viewing gay porn on his computer, he''d: 1 minimize the screen, OR 2 he''d get angry at me for coming into the room where he was watching the stuff, as if I''d violated his privacy. THAT''S HOW SNEAKY AND OILY HE WAS! Somehow I could not get the table to appear on this profile, as it should, in tact: Listed in order of Screen Name, Member Name, and Location for each, unless the name stands alone, and didn’t state address, then only the Screen Name appears, grouped in lines of three, for each buddy on his list. I have spaced three times, between each name. Hopefully, perhaps Interpol or some other public protecting organization can use it to possibly bust a pornography or pedophile ring. I am not sure the spaces between the names will appear when I post this, but I kept a hard copy of the files, when Jay still had his computer at the house we rented together. His name was also on the lease. He broke the lease when ditching me, and did not reimburse me for half the security deposit, to help out with that, so, in my opinion, still owes me around $350. Our full rent, at that time, was $725, and I had paid the full $700 deposit to be returned to me, if the lease was broken, if the house was in good shape, and according to the landlord. He did pay $350 and me $350, to the landlord, for the first month''s rent, when the rent was only $700/month, when we first rented the house but I paid the full $700, or security deposit, which was an additional month''s rent, per typical landlord/tenant lease agreement.

10/28/2009 11:46:57 AM - My purpose for providing this list is in case women who suspected their men of being on the downlow might recognize their former mate’s alternate/hidden lifestyle, if/when recognizing his handle. I also have hard copies of emails, from year 2000, that Jay received, not only confirming his membership on swingdirect.com from Ashley, Customer Support, Swingers Directory Network, http://swingdirectcom, email: admin@swingdirect.com SwingDirect Admin, but many more emails to him, from that site. Jay had lent his computer to me, given me his PW so I could look for work, and this information is what I found, shocking. NOTICE THE HANDLE, NoMoreGurlz3, in the middle of the list:

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10/28/2009 11:47:55 AM - I wish for JAY BROWN any of these things preferably all three! to occur: 1 A massive stroke that will leave him paralyzed, and dribbling his food out of his mouth like diarrhea, so that Melinda Yalom or his daughter Jolene will be the one to feed him while he’s bibbed in a hospital I would have done this, when I loved him, for I was a nurse’s aide as one of my first jobs in life. Knowing what I do now about his unhealthy lifestyle of debauchery and waste, he could very possibly go out this way. 2 Prostate cancer 3 AIDS/HIV 4 He gets chemically castrated when it''s discovered what a pervert, sex offender and sociopath that I think he is He treated me like doo doo on the bottom of his shoe, after I had: 1 helped him through bankruptcy, divorce he also told me he''d foreclosed on his marital home/property with Lori wife #2 2 helped him through the death of his sister Dulce, and also during a time that his sister Linda was worried about her dying husband he was dying of cancer, or had cancer: 3 worked in his shop, Stone Art, on Battle Street in Manassas, between my own contract jobs, while he drove a cab, and before that shop folded I was not paid for that work either 4 worked at no pay, helping him set up for crafts fairs, at strip malls, etc., to sell jewelry I made many necklaces for him to sell, out of his dwindling inventory, as well, that sold 5 put a roof over his daughter Jolene’s head, almost every other weekend, for 8.5 years though Jay paid half the rent/utilities, most months, know that HER room in my house, WOULD HAVE BEEN MY OWN ROOM, separate from Jay’s room, had I not kindly consented to allow Jolene to live there during his custody time with her, so really…I, in fact, paid part of the rent that went toward her board, is my opinion 6 The utilities gas, water, electricity were in MY NAME, for the rental house we shared in Manassas, VA his name was also on the lease HE BROKE THE LEASE, did not pay me for half the security deposit, either, after he broke it, after dumping me. For the first few months we lived together, the main phone was in MY NAME, and I had to wean his jewelry repair customers from calling my phone number, after he finally got his own business phone in our home. I helped him that way because he seemed to play on my sympathies and kindness “down and out” “oh poor me, I’m so misunderstood” ploys?, and he would soon go bankrupt. 7 paid him and hired him for performing as a guitarist and bass player with my jazz ensembles so that work put a little extra money in his pockets! and/or for performing with me, in our duo/folk/C&W act 8 prepared/served any and all meals that needed preparation cooking at home, for 8.5 years. These are just a few things I did for him. He is, in my strong opinion, a DEPRAVED, SICK, AMORAL, EMOTIONALLY/MENTALLY UNSTABLE COWARD who has cheated on, I think, EVERY WOMAN WITH WHOM HE HAS LIVED, PRIOR TO LIVING WITH MELINDA YALOM, and those women he cheated on, besides me, included his first two wives and the two other women he lived with, at two other/separate points in his lifetime, and, before living with Melinda: Evelyn Vignola and me.

10/28/2009 11:48:19 AM - And when/if he’s ever paralyzed, an old man finally, and in a hospital, I hope that when Jolene or Melinda or any of his other family members are not there to attend to him, and when he calls for a nurse’s aide for help, when he’s ****ted in his sheets/pants, I hope that the nurse’s aides will take their sweet time responding, to leave him in his mess, or they’ll come in, after he buzzes for help, to say “go ahead..**** in your drawers”, to leave him to his mess and walk out of the room LAUGHING AT HIM, …because THAT IS WHAT I THINK JAY BROWN DESERVES…a “BROWN” or “BABY TURD YELLOW” because he is YELLOWBELLIED!, SHITTY, INCONTINENT MESS! He should be made into a eunuch and chemically castrated! Melinda or whichever woman he lives with, if not Melinda should beware. I’ll betcha ten to one it’s my opinion/suspicion, that when she’s not home with him, he’ll be watching the Logo gay channel. I truly believe that he''s the sort of male who will change out the woman with whom he''s lived for 8 or 9 years, for the next woman, because Ms. Next has gained or stands to gain her inheritance soon, and Ms. SoontobeFormer won''t have her inheritance for another 8 or 9 years yet. He told me not that I ever asked him, beforehand, I didn''t ask that he would not be getting an inheritance from his mother when she died because she and/or his sisters had loaned or given him so much in the past, that he''d pretty much used up their graces/resources, across the years. Sucked them dry is what I interpret IMO. Another thing…when Jay and I started our “jazz jam” gatherings at Melinda and Ed’s home aka the “Knotty Pine Club”, at one or two of those gatherings, Carey C. Ed’s former girlfriend before he lived with Melinda, also appeared. Carey is also a jazz/gospel vocalist, she was once the girlfriend of my best friend’s current husband, decades before he married my best friend.

10/28/2009 11:48:42 AM - Carey remained Ed’s friend after Ed and Melinda split up. Now, Carey also happened to be the SISTER of Jay’s 1st wife’s brother. Jay NEVER mentioned to me having known or met Carey before he knew me, never mentioned knowing Carey before or after we began our Knotty Pine Club gatherings, though I’ll bet he had at least met Carey at some family gathering or another, of his first wife’s, Pattie’s, while married to Pattie. Jay never told me if he knew Carey before the Knotty Pine Club gatherings, back then. Possibly, he was afraid that Carey and I would speak to each other, get friendly, and possibly he thought that if Carey spoke to me and got to know me better, the crap he pulled with his first wife, Pattie, would surface, and then Carey could’ve shed some light on who Jay REALLY was/is. It would have been helpful, if Carey knew of Jay’s shadiness via Pattie, because Pattie had a close relationship with Carey, I think, long ago, to warn me. Carey did try to warn Melinda possibly through Ed, possibly directly NOBODY WARNED ME ABOUT JAY! It was as if I was “destined” to be “onedowned” and clueless for years, even though Carey, who remained Ed’s friend, tried to “warn Melinda” or warn her, through Ed when Melinda was in her initial stages of her affair with Jay or so Pattie would explain to me, years later, that Carey had tried to warn Ed and/or Melinda.

10/28/2009 11:49:03 AM - You can’t imagine what I felt, having gone years without closure, as long as I went, being “the last to know.” I felt betrayed by a whole gaggle of people, mostly those in Ed’s musical circles, with whom I once thought I’d shared a musical fellowship. My point? I don’t believe in the platitude, “What you don’t know won’t hurt you” ...rather, I believe that women should be warned of a man''s infidelities as soon as they occur, from anyone in her circles who are in the know. Also, when I first began dating Jay, I asked him why he and Pattie wife #1 divorced. He told me that she cheated on him. I would find out from Pattie that it was JUST THE OPPOSITE: she said he cheated on her with a neighbor''s wife, and ADMITTED it. Pattie also told me that two of her gay male friends told her that he had sex with them. I believe Pattie, since her experience story falls into the same Jay bisexual patterns as my own. In my opinion, other than having managed to pay child support for years for his two children and quitting alcohol/drugs for years, to me, he is a weakminded, gutless individual without character. If he’s caught again viewing gay male porn on his computer as I caught him, he’ll probably try to pass off that activity as “that was just a distraction” as he said to me. He richly deserves any low selfesteem issues he has/had, is a chronic liar, and his past with several women, with whom he each lived, has borne that out. He liked jerking off to male porn videos I caught him more than once, plus, he ADVERTISED, on the swingers'' site that that''s what he liked..the code he used was j/o. He is/was a SICK man.

10/28/2009 11:49:25 AM - He also recycles songs that he sings to his women one means of seduction he uses. He also might teach you some lapidary skills, as he did me I knew some already, that I learned while living in New Mexico, years before living with Jay, as another means of seduction. And/or, he''ll come on to you as the handyman like I think he did with Melinda Yalom he also came onto ME that way, in the beginning, for example, when we first moved in together, he assembled an armoir that I bought at IKEA. He said, I''ll bet you didn''t think I was domesticated, huh? WATCH OUT! Sorry, Missy Jolene Jay’s daughter, but Jay’s “bisexuality” is NOT normal, given the incestuous circumstances with his GAY MALE COUSIN, that he described he had with PAUL BROWN, a whether former or current transcendental meditation instructor you also traumatized me with your hate letter that was UNDESERVED, and you brought Paul Powell into our home. Paul Powell, in less than a year I think, murdered a female. God, how I hate liars who steal the last years of a woman’s reproductive life, without a thought, without conscience. In my opinion, if you are a woman still with reproductive years ahead of you, and he snows you, like he did me, he’ll probably have sex with you more in your mouth than in your “V”, maybe because he’s a weenie, afraid to get a woman pregnant Pattie, wife #1, said when she was married to him and he impregnated her, he was reluctant to discuss what the name of their baby would be, and was bedding others, meanwhile consequently, she aborted the child, got an infection from the abortion, and could not have biological children, consequently, but more probably because he swings BOTH WAYS! He has a morethan 30year history of thinking with his penis. Just remember, when he says to you, I want a woman who can roll up her sleeves, just add on what I think is his unspoken message..the rest of his sentence, because I don''t want to roll mine up too far, except for myself…when it benefits me only/majorly...especially when he gave me the excuse about his 2nd wife, Lori, and said, she wanted me to be a cash machine.

10/28/2009 11:49:51 AM - I should know. I met him when I was 18. He cheated on Evelyn Vignola, the woman he lived with at the time...WITH ME! ...or tried to, he couldn''t get it up, but he didn''t tell me he lived with her UNTIL HE GOT NAKED! He also seems to prey women who are vulnerable and/or who''ve been hurt by a guy in their past Lori, 2nd wife, most probably betrayed by the biological father of her son me, betrayed by my 9year, longterm boyfriendANOTHER NARCISSIST! Melinda told me that her first husband cheated on her. He seems to show a repetitive, longterm decades cycle of using women for his own personal GRAVY TRAIN! He NEVER ONCE—not that I can recall, anyway—EVER cooked for me! Not even barbecue. I did ALL the cooking, and usually ALL the laundry, did ALL the vacuuming/dusting, and paid for ALL of our wall decorations, interior designs, new furniture, reupholstering, etc. Plus, would pick up and drop off his daughter, when he couldn’t do so if he was working late, for her custody time with him. Had he had to pay a maid/chauffer for the years I provided those services to him, he would’ve had to pay out the yazoo. Any man who wants those “traditional” duties done for him, should not whine when his woman looks to the man to provide the “traditional” duties of paying for her shelter/food not just for half of same! I also chauffeured his son, James, to the DMV, to get his driver’s license for some reason, his mother was unable to do that, or was unavailable to do so, apparently. I even gave James a guitar lesson in Travis style fingerpicking, had him over for dinner/meals quite a few times, gave him a copy of Eric Johnson''s CD, with the song, White Cliffs of Dover, so he could see what electric guitar playing is all about. So, don’t let him feed you a boatload of crap, telling you that I “didn’t roll up” my sleeves, or that I didn''t mentor his children! At one point, I asked Jolene if she’d be interested in modeling I thought, back then that she could do that, if she’d wanted to. I sometimes thought that she resembled fashion model, Maryna Linchuk see page 43, of the July 1999 issue of VOGUE, with her depicted with DUNDAS, OR see web page, http://models.com/work/voguetheprinceofpucci/8289, for the same photo ... I was briefly a fashion model at the age of 17, attended modeling and finishing schools, modeled for Garfinkle’s store, so I don’t think I was “far off” with my suggestion, realizing who could “make it” and who couldn’t, realistically. But when she died her beautiful/natural blonde hair a severe “goth” black..or was it red? I can’t recall now which color she died itI thought otherwise, but didn’t tell her so.

10/28/2009 11:50:16 AM - I think he just wants to reverse ALL “roles”, not just the ones he asked to “reverse” of his 1st wife in the bedroom Pattie TOLD ME he asked for that he’d probably be happy to have his financial “roles” reversed as well…for “his woman” to PAY FOR THE ROOF OVER HIS HEAD Interpret: GIGALO! And I’ll still wager that he got that big FAT hemorrhoid on his anus that resembled a fat, engorged tick! Only fitting that something resembling a small parasite would be attached to the ass of a BIGGER parasite: JAY BROWN! Truth hurts, doesn’t it Jay? ..reveals/manifests itself in strange forms…probably from some man going up your anus with his penis, or from some woman using a strapon or dildo on you! Oh…and when he convinced me to go, for the first and last time, to a strip club with him, during our last vacation together, in the Outter Banks, before I was about to be trained to a new job I would earn upwards of 52K, so it was crucial that I had my mate’s emotional support at the time, I agreed only because he seemed to suggest it would just be “fun” like in La Cage Aux Faules, that movie about a gay transvestite, the female of the couple danced, in a place where both gay and heterosexuals came for entertainment, and although the place we went had only FEMALE strippers—well, I consented only to “humor” him, and I figured that perhaps I could learn some sexy moves from the strippers, that I could practice with my man Jay, at some point in the future. Hey…women these days pay for poledancing classes, don’t they? So they can entice their partners? But he turned the occasion into another emotionally abusive situation, and hired a lap dancer there to lap dance on him, and when I had to watch her shove her breasts in his face, pretend to be happy about it. Hey. How could I escape? He was the driver, and we were between 5 or 6 hours away from our home state. I couldn’t exactly leave. I WAS TRAPPED! To compound the abuse, days after we returned from vacation, he had the gall to write a raunchy story about that stripper, about how kind her eyes wereas if, for years, my eyes and his hadn''t ''''smiled together, as if we hadn''t laughed together all those years, about how easily it was to imagine her making love to him, and showed it to me. I HOPE THAT BASTARD GETS WHATEVER BAD KARMA IS COMING TO HIM, TWENTYFOLD, AND SOON! And, Melinda Yalom, he told me, at the time he wrote that story, had “encouraged” him to write encouraged his “writing talents,” …as if she was his muse!, so I hope SHE gets whatever negative karma she is due, too! How long can a relationship last that’s founded on mutual deceit and adultery?!

10/28/2009 11:51:10 AM - Any guy who has to use the word dumped to describe what he did or is about to do to you, as Jay described, instead of using CIVIL LANGUAGE to describe ending your relationship with him, is simply CRASS, UNREFINED, and to me, NOT RAISED WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER! He actually asked, “What’s the matter? Haven’t you ever been DUMPED before?” [Well, actually, Jay, no, not the way YOU did, except for ONE other COWARD, the longterm, almost tenyear relationship I had with the guy I decided to go steady with, after deciding, when I was age 18, to not date YOU, because you told me, back then, after YOU got naked, that you lived with Evelyn Vignola, so were DISHONEST even back then! Every other relationship that ended with me—and most were longterm, usually three years or more—I ENDED, not the men. One was someone I was engaged to, and I ended it because he was addicted to subscription drugs. Had I known about your alleged DRUGSELLING PAST, as Pattie, wife #1 of yours told me you had, when living with her, I WOULD HAVE AVOIDED YOU ENTIRELY! Really, you are NO BETTER THAN ED EASTRIDGE, the ol’ buddy of yours from Edgemeade, who ran MO Recording Studios, in Annapolis, and who I think, got busted, and who, I think, you tired to make yourself appear to be “better than” him…said as much, when you lived with me!]

10/28/2009 11:51:30 AM - When Jay lived with me, he also phonecalled a former guy I had dated out West really, I urged him not to in quiet exasperation, I gave up protesting, said, “Do what you want. I don’t care.” That guy was a meathead jock, anyway, someone I dated for less than two or three months, who didn’t know me at all, and would wonder later why he ever pretended to be my friend, to Jay. But maybe some side of me wanted him to have Jay hear a male WITH MORE TESTOSTERONE, and HANDSOMER than Jay was, so he’d know that handsomer men and a more SUCCESSFUL manhe, at least, had a career in the music businessmore attractive than Jayhad been attracted to me, in my past a former boyfriend of mine, from another state, from the late 1970’s, to see “what was up” with him, a person who had treated me badly. The ex b/f told Jay on the phone that I was a friend of his I guess that former b/friend felt guilty for what he’d done to me, unlike Jay probably feels: NOTHING. NO CONSCIENCE. To me, Jay “gets off” on having a woman feel “cognitive dissonance” i.e., EMOTIONAL ABUSE, sometimes subtle, sometimes not, to see her in emotional turmoil, or “fixed” in “past bad memories mode.” He called that guy in a “what did she mean to you at that time?” manner. Nosey, wasn’t he? after I’d confided in him Jay, explained to Jay that I’d had no closure to that relationship and “no closure” is EXACTLY what I’d have with Jay, months later! So much for “opening up” to the perve, Jay! DO NOT SHARE YOUR DEEP SECRETS OR FEELINGS WITH HIM! HE’LL STOMP ON THEM, SOONER OR LATER!

10/28/2009 11:51:53 AM - Jay’s character is, I think, a lot like that described/profiled about Matt Clark on DDHG, area for Matt is stated as Farmington, Granby Age, Connecticut:: “talks very smooth. [ ] talks you into bed and then brings other women into the picture. Lies, omits info, involves you in his pity parties for these other women ‘friend''s’ tells you you''re crazy for feeling suspicious and then sees and talks to them when you''re not there. Takes your choices away to leave by lying and suggests that you doubt your gut feelings. Relies on imbalance in relationship to serve himself. DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON THIS CHARACTER. Sociopath.” … YEAH! EXACTLY! WELL PUT! Jay finds weaknesses in women’s psychological states, like being a single mother, history of betraying boyfriends, unhappy marriage, etc., then feeds it with affection, words, and songs that include “Christian”, C&W and “soul” songs, as if he’s the “fixit” man, as if he’s “the one” who will be different…make things better…as if he’ll give you the roots/family that you never got to form, to include you in his, as if you’d finally get to exhale. With me, he “wooed” me preyed on me is what I’d say with jewelry as gifts that came from his inventory from the shop that wife #2 and he once had, and enjoined me in business ventures of his, as if I was his personal assistant or his employer the former when I worked in his rock shop for no pay the latter when working in bands with me, that I formed, with me as the lead singer.

10/28/2009 11:52:18 AM - Jay CAN and DID “look a gift horse in the mouth.” His excuses? “I need a woman who rolls up her sleeves” and “your magnanimity was ingenuous.” INGENUOUS?!?! I did, for years, HIS laundry, along with my own learned/prepared/served, for years, HIS family recipes. If I am a better chef now than I was then, that’s because my S.O. takes me to oriental and ethnic food markets, so I can get special ingredients I need he knows where to find them Jay would NEVER think of that Mr. 7Eleven Junk Food Eater..especially on the way home from band rehearsals! our food shopping was mainly limited to Giant and WEISS. Not that I was a bad cook when I lived with him. Long before I lived with Jay, my best friend, former chef in New Orleans, taught me to make my first white sauce, how to make gumbo. Jay knew I was a good cook, too. I chauffeured his daughter to/from custody visits with her father worked, between my contracts, in HIS shop before it folded in Old Town, Manassas, VA & helped him set up his trade shows, FOR NO PAY…and a WHOLE MESS of other domestic duties, for years living with him paid him to perform guitar/bass in the bands I formed. All house utility bills were in MY name b/c his credit was bad. He would soon go bankrupt. To me, Jay Brown is a SOLIPSIST, VILE FRAUD, PREDATOR, SOCIAL CLIMBER WHO SEEMS TO WANT TO GET A “LEG UP” ON THE PURSES OF WOMEN, SHAPE SHIFTER! Jay described his own father as a pedophile no, he didn’t use that word, but he told me that his niece, Holly Holstrom maiden name Holly Sipprelle, daughter of Jeanine and Dale Sipprelle, told him that his own father EVERETT RAYMOND BROWN SR. had molested her when she was fifteen, that he came into her bedroom at night…ANOTHER one of those few times, in retrospect, I think Jay wasn’t lying, and if so, then, apparently, PERVERSION RUNS IN HIS FAMILY!

10/28/2009 11:52:42 AM - Jay also told me that Jill, a former singer in the band he was in Change of Heart, before she got married, did phone sex for a living as if he was stating that to be able to switch out of being a normal citizen in society and a perverse one, was something that people can do easily! He told me that about Jill, when he was about to go to his first party without me at Rick Burnette''s and Mariane Fowler''s house, where he said he''d see Jill again, after not seeing her for years. When he told me about what Jill had supposedly done before she got married, it was as if he was comparing HER double life to his own! As if he was promoting “alternative lifestyles” as the “norm”! He crushed my spirit and my heart..so did she Melinda theirs should be crushed as well, and perhaps my profiles about them will teach her a lesson about honking after another woman’s man! Not all that glitters is gold, Melinda. Crows often fly down to shiny things, only to find they don’t shine so much, once they get closer. They also go after carrion! After removing all of his stuff from our rental home, he returned, one more time, to get his bicycle the only thing left in our garage, of his, and pedaled off into the sunset bicycling was one of the first activities we did together, when first dating, so he’ll probably fake like he’s an avid bike rider, to do that activity with you, too. My S.O. has trekked twice across Tibet, on his mountain bike, a REAL outdoorsman, not like Jay, an unfit slob in more ways than one, never to be seen again, no full TRUTHTELLING, NO REAL EXPLANATION.

10/28/2009 11:53:07 AM - He may or may not tell you that he worries I think that part of his “cheating problem” may be genetic. He told me that his niece, Holly Holstrom, daughter of Jeanine & Dale Sipprelle not sure if it’s spelled it Siprelle or Sipprelle, told him that his father came into her bedroom when she was a teen, & molested her. He also told me that his father chased one of his girlfriends around a table, & asked him how one of his women was in bed. He also told me that his older sisters used to pay him to wash out their hosiery. He told me that his youngest sister, Linda who married her cousin…her second husband, I think let him watch her masturbate, when he was a teen. Jay shocked me when he told me that about her. My opinion about Linda changed from that point on. I''d once thought she vaguely resembled actor Leslie Caron but had that Tomboy thing going on...the tough woman who liked horses and men who rode them I think, better yet, a man who OWNED them, like her husband/cousin, Les. Still, I wondered why she''d chosen a man who looked old enough to be her father, for her first husband. I might post a photo with a profile on her, later. I think Jay is a very sick man, with some form of erotomania, and hides that he is a BOTTOM BOY! I guess his “convincing” me to go to a strip club with him, on our last vacation together, was a close as he could get to having a “threesome” with me. That’s what I would think long after I saw the disgusting story he wrote about the “kind eyes” of the stripper he tried to publish it in the Sun, but it got rejected..ha ha, when he got home when Melinda was “encouraging” him to write..he told me. Truthfully? I think that trip to the strip club triggered/accelerated his sex/porn addiction.

10/28/2009 11:53:39 AM - Through Jan and Feb of 2000, we were still having sexual relations. Every week of March 2000, we had sexual relations, though in the first week of march came bull**** from him about “wanting a real partner”, wanting “not to support” me, where he accused me of being a prima dona in the band, accused me of not being able to keep a job, of not being “normal”, he resented feeling “like he’s married. Yet sex continued with us, though March, and in the 4th week of March came our discussion about his seeming to blacktop me with Melinda, about my “chronic unemployment” We were still sexually active the 5th week of March, though, and in the 1st and 3rd weeks of April, though, in that 3rd week, I got flack from Jay about “rethinking our relationship” 4th week of April we were sexually active, as we were in the 1st week of May, late in the week, but early in the week, he rebuffed me when I asked if he was in the mood, he mentioned something about “it should be spontaneous, shouldn’t it?”..which preceded more crap from him about me being “chronically unemployed” and “trying is not good enough” Note: that was still within the 3month period when he didn’t have his car and had to borrow mine. We were sexually Active every week of May 2000, but in the 4th week came more **** from him, when I asked him why our love life was not as active as it once had been, followed by more excuses from him and “let it come naturally”, when he had not initiated in quite some time, and for years, the “mood” had been mutual, or he never denied me I never had to “coax” him much, if ever, …certainly never had to “cajole” himto be “in the mood”, for years, before this. Suddenly “inhibited desire” syndromeHIS “inhibiting” MY desire, that is, set in, OR he acted like a “frigid” man, toward me.

10/28/2009 11:54:00 AM - We were sexually active the first three weeks of June 2000. In the first week of June, I went to Richmond for two days of training in Quark Express. Sometime much later, I noticed that two photos from the photo album I had assembled, had been removed. I suspect that Jay removed them while I was in Richmond. One photo was of him, when he was probably married to Lori it was of him, walking on the beach, holding young James’ hand. Another photo was one of me that he had snapped candid without my express permission…I was nude, or at least bare breasted, and the photo also snapped my “surprise” or “annoyance”, as I whipped my hair across my face, so he would not photograph my face!, he would later hide that one in his ledger book, in his office/desk drawer, but I found it and took it back. One time, Jay insulted me or at least I thought it was insulting, said that my bare breasts resembled a “walleyed dog”. Well…in Africa, when a woman’s breasts are perky and point in different directions, those qualities are considered highly attractive, and two former lovers of mine, each in a morethan 5year relationship with me, one being my exhusband, often complimented me on my breasts so Jay’s opinion is worth SQUAT! In my opinion, Melinda Yalom’s breasts sagged like pendulums, almost appeared, when clothed, as if she was flatchested, because of their seeming “droopiness” possibly he wanted a woman who could APPEAR to be flatchested MEN ARE TYPICALLY FLATCHESTED, IF THEY DON’T HAVE MAN BOOBS!

10/28/2009 11:54:40 AM - I suspect that Jay rifled through my things, while I was out of town training to a new skill. In the 2nd week of June I overheard a call from Jay’s mother to Jay she seemed to be asking about finances interfering? Very possibly! June 14 was the last time Jay and I “made love” before he told me he was leaving almost one week later, which left me with a horrible feeling, as that was the night he used our “toy” on me he had been unable to “keep it up”...guess that''s what happens when a guy gets PORN CREEP. My point in rehashing that old calendar? If Melinda thought we weren''t still sexually active back then, she was wrong. I guess she didn''t mind overlapping me...sharing him with me without my knowledge if so, what does that tell you about her morals? Jay had received an email from Jon Frederick that made me suspicious. Jon lived at 814 Anvil Rd., in Fredericksburg, VA 22405 It had the subject “Divorce Letter!” Sender was FrederickJW@NSWC.NAVY.MIL, the date, 4/19/00: “Oooo, if it’s not true, it’s too good to pass up! [ ] This soldier had been stationed overseas and was fooling around on his wife. She was back home in the states. She found out about it through some anonymous letters. [ ] The soldier gets a package from his wife. He finds inside a batch of homemade cookies and a video tape of his favorite stateside TV shows. [ ] He invites a couple of buddies over to watch the tape. They’re all having a great time eating the cookies and watching episodes of ‘South Park’. [ ] right in the middle of one episode, though, the tape cuts to a home video of the soldier’s wife, on her knees, giving the soldier’s best friend oral sex. [ ] After a few seconds, the best friend ‘does his business’ and she turns, on camera, and spits it right into. . . a mixing bowl of cookie dough. [ ] The wife then looks right into the camera and says, ‘I want a divorce.'' [ ] Now THAT’S a ‘Dear John’ Letter.”

10/28/2009 11:55:01 AM - IMO, Jon Frederick and Jim Gilliam are misogynists. Jon’s former girlfriend, Lori Pierce a pretty red head, from Maine, with a son to support, told me that she offered to sign a prenup, wanted to marry Jon, and that he treated her “like a sycophant.” Jim, though, not a “cheater” as far as I know, to me, is an “elitist republican” who only associates with women with “bucks”, is oblivious to women who have difficulty finding work or who are down on their luck he married—I think his second time, to Nancy, a woman who’s previous husband helped build the house he lives/lived in with Nancy I think I recall Nancy telling me that her previous husband built or helped build the house. Jon, if I recall correctly, had been divorced at least once, before he & Lori dated, and he has a daughter. I suspected that Jon was an alcoholic. Jim also conveyed that a previous wife of his was also a musician, so perhaps that means MAYBE he discouraged Jay from partnering with a musician as in “that never works”, as a life partner, which would really be a sad thing. I know several longterm couples all married in which the man behaves like a good old fashioned “traditional”, supportive partner, and who are BOTH musicians, who work TOGETHER…earn money with their music, have CDs to sell, get bookings, etc. [Hey Jay…Marge Calhoun married a drummer, who is a friend to my Significant Other. Stanley Whittaker guitarist, songwriter, formerly in a nationally known band, Happy The Man, works/worked with his WIFE, a singer in a duo with him, sometimes. We KNOW it CAN work…the twomusician thing, so get your COWARDLY, BACKWARD, MISOGYNIST ass/attitude off the planet!]

10/28/2009 11:55:33 AM - After finding that one, I wondered just what were “the boys”, who’d agreed to rehearse with Jay without me, saying behind my back…what B.S. was Jay feeding Jim or John? I paid Jay to perform in my jazz ensembles, I also paid the other performers I found venues for them, too, and we all performed for several years together. The last quartet I formed and worked with, for several years, in the late 1990s, was with Jim Gilliam jgilliam@erols.com and Jon Frederick. When Jim came to our home to try out for the bass player slot, and heard Jay and I, he remarked, “You guys are just great!” …probably, he didn’t realize that it was MY IDEA to form the band, and I did most of the band’s marketing. When Jay decided to exit our personal relationship, he also I allege stole my musicians, or else they sided with him, and, according to Jay, they rehearsed without me, after he decided to “dump” me. Fine with me if they wanted to work as a sub group, just the boys, apart from our main group. I had no complaints there, and as time went on, I even opened the stage for them to perform more instrumentals—just the three boys—two or three more songs, each set, giving over my “power”, so they wouldn’t think I was some “prima dona” or “chick singer” with the “lady in charge” syndrome so they wouldn''t think I was Bogarting the choice of set material. But Jay, pulled the complete rug out from under my professional/musical momentum, since I had gained several main performance venues. In one of them, we were practically a house band. That gig income supplemented any unemployment insurance benefits I received at the time, while job searching in my usual profession requiring my B.A.. One or four gigs monthly with my band meant additional income for me. Maybe that’s what Jay INTENDED to do, leave me in TOTAL financial crises when he left. The “damage” set me back about two years, from fall of 2000, until about three years later, when I finally met and performed with other guitarists who were MUCH BETTER in the jazz genre, as far as talent went, than Jay was, in my opinion.

10/28/2009 11:55:54 AM - I never again performed with the two musicians, Jim and Jon. They never asked me if I needed them for hire in future even without Jay, when I could’ve hired another guitarist, to replace Jay. It seemed that neither of them cared that Jay was a male involved in “down low” activities ADVERTISED HIMSELF AS BISEXUAL, with bi men and bicurious men, & that shocked the hell out of me. Nor were they concerned whether Jay could’ve compromised my health. They seemed to side with the Jay. Fino. No discussion. So much for democratic decisions. I almost never trusted a male musician again. When I confronted Jay, asked him if there was another woman in the picture, he denied it. I think he bolts once his cheating activity has been discovered or is about to be discovered. Too much baby momma drama, as well. Didn''t Melinda Yalom think something was wrong or strange, that Jay lived with his MOTHER, at age 40+, while separated from wife #2? Jay bored me at times, like during football game, when I thought he lusted after male genitalswatched their butts. I’d rather watch the Olympics or couples ice skating.. ballroom dancingthings that MEN & WOMEN do together as COUPLES, which should be further proof to anyone that I have not one lesbian bone in my body.

10/28/2009 11:56:20 AM - Jay also told me while he was pending divorce from his 2nd wife, Lori, and I supported him emotionally through those difficult times that his 2nd fatherinlaw, Lou Walters, said that Jay was underemployed. Well, I don''t know about that, but I guess Lou was right, and Jay was trying to flip the script on me. In my opinion, besides being a home improvements and jewelery repair guy for a living, to me, Jay was basically a DILETTANTE, who also drove a cab for not long, worked only days for a telemarketing place, worked briefly, for a music store in Manassas, during those awful days, pending his divorce from Lori. In other words, I think his employment situation was not all that stable. In my opinion, he worked like a gypsy/vagabond/drifter works...here, there and everywhere. If you insist on letting a man take you for your money what you can buy for him or your time, you might as well be paying for a gigolo with whom to have sex, because, really…Jay, most of the time, didn’t last more than I could count 15 “Mississippi’s”…and that’s was being more than generous…saying each “Mississippi” verry slowly, to yourself, giving each more than one second! Any male who lies about how many former sexual partners he’s had, & about their genders, to win his way into the hearts/lives/beds of women/men, is worthless as a partner.

10/28/2009 11:56:41 AM - If, after years living with him, after you’ve been convinced he’s been “in love” with you, then suddenly, out of nowhere, he tells you he “doesn’t feel” that “wave of relief” when becoming “one” with you, those words will probably come AFTER he’s begun bedding the next woman. The “wave of relief” he seeks besides sex with as many women/men as he wants, I think, is really what “financial security” the woman can provide him, when he can’t provide his own. With me, and after going to Melinda’s house only a handful of times, as her guest, when we were a couple, suddenly, he embraced her as if she’d been his lifelong friend, calling her “sweetheart” when she greeted us at her front door, right in front of me. I ignored it at the time, but shouldn’t have. She lived with Ed Rejuney then. My brother and his wife are members of, I think, a large, affluent Jewish community, in MD. They live less than 15 miles from where Melinda Yalom lives. If she is part of the Jewish community in her neighborhood, I hope that those community members know what a slut/homewrecker I think she is. Word spreads fast. What comes around, goes around, Melinda! During “lovemaking” with Jay, one might sense that he “observes” more than “participates” like a voyeur does, and if you are on top, you might see him in a kind of “wincing” , squinting or rapid blinking mode, as if afraid to open his eyes to see YOU smile, or to smile himself. Was he “disassociating”? He can turn on the waterworks crocodile tears pronto!

10/28/2009 11:57:04 AM - I think Jay thinks he’s Robert Cray & George Jones combined, sings “Walk Through This World With Me”, as if he’s a “spiritual” kind of guy…had me, female vocalist and accomplished guitarist, professionally singing with him. He and his band members, from former band, Night Patrol, named their band after a Robert Cray song. That tune’s about young girls who live on the streets as prostitutes. To me, Jay’s life is not much better than a PIMP’s! He is as unpredictable in his interpersonal relationships as he is in his business life the only things “predictable” are his unreliability & roving eye. His lines? You make my blood boil .. I was taken with you. He’s like that “pompous fiancé” in the Hepburn/Tracy film, “Pat and Mike” You will, toward the end of your relationship, be secondguessing yourself and your own judgment/abilities. Films I recommend: “Cover” The Band Played On: Politics, People, by Randy Shilts Sex, Lies, and Videotape Jay, to me, is like BOTH sex addicts in that film, combined, given his history of voyeurism, & sexing friends of partners, and, according to him..HIS RELATIVES “Sex, Lies and Obsession” though a bit “Hallmarky”, about sex addictions. If Melinda ever wakes up to discover who Jay REALLY is, to encourage him to couples counseling, I would recommend she had done what the therapist did in that film: have him take a lie detector test that the therapist gives, asking questions like, “Have you ever cruised for sex with others, in the last month, six months, year, two years?”, etc. Jay compartmentalizes his life, so his family, children, significant other or wife, and friends don''t know everything he does.

10/28/2009 11:57:48 AM - When living with me, Jay''s addiction to porn included watching/renting/buying gay male porn. When he did, he''d pull the shades down, said, so the neighbors wouldn''t see. He''s preyed on single mothers and/or women who seemed to him to be professionally successful. About what I believe was his mercenary sidethe side that “determined” him to live off women, or “made” him unhappy unless they had as much money as he had or MORE than him, derived, I think, from something sinister in his upbringing, but also may have it''s origins in his genes or brain chemistry. Seriously, I think he’s a good candidate for Sexaholics Anonymous, while I also think he can’t be helped. Shortly after he left me, I attended one support group meeting, that exgirlfriends, girlfriends, and wives of sexaholics similar to Alanon attended, in a Catholic church, in Virginia. Typical to Codependency “jargon” the psychobabble Jay liked to use, as reverse psychology, to convince his partners that THEY were in the wrong, not him!, the group steerer suggested to all to “take no heed of his inventory”… suggesting we “look the other way.” Hooey! I’M PUBLICIZING HIS DAMNED INVENTORY! I’d like to believe that the 12 steps work, but I have my doubts. “Psychobabble” is what Jay regurgitated..what he learned from AA, to flip the script on women. I think he practiced Sexaholics Anonymous IN REVERSE! http://www.step12.com/12stepsreverse.html

10/28/2009 11:58:10 AM - The best Chanukah present that Melinda Yalom’s relatives could ever give her, I think, would be to have a complete background check done on Jay Brown and pay to have a P.I. tail him for several weeks while she’s at work, then deliver the results to her via certified mail, or better yethand the results to Melinda in person you wouldn’t want him to intercept her mail..some male cheaters do that. Otherwise, there just might be some tranny/bisexual sexing him while she’s at work, or worse see profiles on this site for Rob Martin, of Allentown/Northampton, PA. Or, possibly, Lou Walters who seemed to have the financial means to do this, and who Jay told me wanted to put Jay out of business for good, could do this, to avenge ALL THE WOMEN that Jay has hurt. Once in a relationship, Jay changes. Any problems in the relationship are YOUR fault. WHAT A TANGLED WEB HE WEAVES! Very charismatic, but then, so are most narcissists. PREDATOR! USER! COWARD! FRAUD! EMOTIONAL BULLY/ABUSER! PATHOLOGICAL LIAR! PARASITIC, PSYCHOSEXUAL SPONGE! FOUL PLAYER! Admitted dyslexic he won''t tell you, though, until you''re well into your relationship with him.

10/28/2009 11:58:39 AM - If anyone else women, gay men, or straight men have any Shady Jay stories, please comment. It would be interesting, straight from the mouth/mind, to hear what Debbie and Janet Janet told him, I don''t want your problems to become mine, when he either had an extramarital affair with her, or tried to do so..he admitted as much to me, said it happened while he was still married to Lori, wife #2. Stacey D’Erasmo published in The New York Times Book Review of 10/04/09, “Glory Days” in which she described gay writer, Edmund White as “somewhat sexist”… “I didn’t think of women as horny but as needy,” D’Erasmo quoted White. I believe Jay thinks of women the same way. He reminded me of the psycho, Lilith, in the film, Lilith and of the psychopath in the 1971 film, “The Night Digger”, ...about Nicholas Clay: “ominous young intruder [ ] he''s the sick, mysterious fiend who''s raped, killed and buried a halfdozen girls in nearby roads that are being paved [ ] something unusual is troubling him [ ] But a viewer needs a clinical elaboration beyond brief vignettes about his being a eunuch.” source: http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9506EEDD1E3BE73ABC4B52DFB366838A669EDE “The plot as it is involves the mother and daughter taking on a young biker to look after their crumbling family pile, but what they don''t know is that he''s also a serial killing nutter. [ ] he makes a pretty fair job of tarting the old place up. But it''s not long before he''s up to his old tricks, tying women up, raping them or maybe not his sexual inadequacy is sledgehammered home so perhaps he gets his jollies in the act of murder, who knows, murdering them and burying them under the nearest halffinished road. In an unexplored avenue of his perversion, he also removes their clothes [ ] we''re given an insight into the young chap''s sexual inadequacies in a couple of blackandwhite flashbacks we see him raped by gipsy women on his way home from school and later abused by a girlfriend for not getting it up. [ ] we get a frankly ludicrous and openended finale which seems to say that it''s okay to murder a bunch of girls and bury them under concrete as long as you find the love of a solid, middleaged woman. It then adds that the love of a solid, middleaged woman is enough to give any young lad his libido back and enable him to shag younger women without killing them and burying them under concrete afterwards.” source: http://www.britishhorrorfilms.co.uk/nightdigger.shtml

10/28/2009 11:59:08 AM - I also suspect that Jay might have when a minor been diagnosed with Conduct Disorder. Once, I saw a Brown family video or tape of Jay as a toddler. It showed him bullying another kid. Some Brown family members just laughed while watching it with me, at the time. Possibly, his gay cousin, Paul Brown, also has/had Conduct Disorder. A good source on Conduct Disorder is: http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/UVAHealth/adult_mentalhealth/condis.cfm. Some excerpts from that source include: “Conduct disorder is a behavior disorder, sometimes diagnosed in childhood, that is characterized by antisocial behaviors which violate the rights of others and ageappropriate social standards and rules. Antisocial behaviors may include irresponsibility, delinquent behaviors such as truancy or running away, violating the rights of others such as theft, and/or physical aggression toward others such as assault or rape.” “Neuropsychological testing has shown that children and adolescents with conduct disorders seem to have an impairment in the frontal lobe of the brain that interferes with their ability to plan, avoid harm, and learn from negative experiences.” “Some experts believe that a developmental sequence of experiences occurs in the development of conduct disorder. This sequence may start with ineffective parenting practices, followed by academic failure, and poor peer interactions. These experiences then often lead to depressed mood and involvement in a deviant peer group. Other experts, however, believe that many factors, including child abuse, genetic susceptibility, history of academic failure, brain damage, and/or a traumatic experience influence the expression of conduct disorder.”

10/28/2009 11:59:29 AM - Jay was in denial about his sex/porn addiction and/or about his sexual identity confusion that has HURTFULLY impacted women in his life. Read about sex addiction. Read as much as you can, to avoid individuals like Jay. Here’s a clue: “ ‘a sex addict is a man or a woman whose sexual behavior use of pornography, masturbation, fantasy, sexual and/or emotional affairs, humiliating and demanding sexual behavior is harmful to their finances, intimate relationships, careers, self esteem and probably that of the partner as well.’ Some people use sex as a coping mechanism for their personal problems. There are three reasons why people become sexually addicted, they are biological, psychological, and spiritual. The three building blocks of sex addiction are 1 sexual fantasy, 2 pornography, and 3 masturbation.” Source: http://www.csun.edu/~psy453/addict_y.htm

10/28/2009 11:59:56 AM - Books that helped me understand the crises/grief that men on the downlow cause: “The Other Side of the Closet: The ComingOut Crisis for Straight Spouses and Families” by Amity Pierce Buxton “On The Down Low: A Journey into the lives of ''Straight'' Black Men Who Sleep With Men” by J.L. King even though I can’t stand the bastard for what he did to his wife, I found the book to be eyeopening. My Significant Other found the book for me, for only $2.00, on sale, so I didn’t “promote” King’s book by paying the full price! Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited by Sam Vaknin, Ph. D.

10/28/2009 12:01:11 PM - Pattie Jay''s 1st wife or Evelyn Vignola need not reply I have their stories. If any gay man EVER had sex with him back then, and recognizes him from this photo, please post a comment, and say when/where. JAY NEEDS TO BE PERMANENTLY STOPPED FROM HURTING MORE WOMEN. Another photo, that I might upload, to another profile on him later, was taken in the 1970''s, approx. when Jay was married to wife #1, Pattie. I might post more photos taken of Jay up here, attached to less than oneparagraph profiles, with: To all gay or socalled ''bi'' men, and to women: If you''ve had any sexual experiences with Jay, PLEASE share them & WHEN you had them. OR..you can email Melinda Yalom & tell her that Pattie, Carrie & I were NOT lying! If you don''t recognize him from this photo, please see photo on http://datingpsychos.com/view_psycho.html?psycho_id=2548, from around 1999. Jay convinced straight males who REALLY love women for years, that he’s “straight”, males in his bands & the fathers 3 of the women with whom he’s lived. He’s THAT good. He’s NOT your “straight” guy. He seems to even have convinced two guys, Jon Frederick & Jim Gilliam who I profiled on DDHG because they wrote me off, after Jay dumped me. They wouldn’t believe me, apparently formerly in a band I formed & that Jay was in, that he was a “good guy” and/or a “musician’s musician”. When Jay was “done” with me, my own father discouraged me from talking about what a psychopath I think Jay was. Same thing happened to Pattie, Jay’s first wife, who told me that when Jay was done with her, her “Catholic” father told her, “women who’ve had abortions shouldn’t be believed.” Jay is POISON to women.

10/28/2009 12:01:34 PM - I also blame Jay’s gay male cousin, Paul Brown See http://www.thequietpath.org/ Last Known Email: paul@thequietpath.org I profiled him on http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/75590/, for, I think confusing Jay’s sexual identity when he had oral sex with Jay, when Jay was age 12. Jay told me it happened & told me that his youngest sister, Linda, showed him how she masturbated, when he was a teen. Jay told me he’d stolen the Cottage Ln. street sign Fairfax Cnty. Property?, said that it ended up at his 2nd wife Lori’s home in Manassas. THAT’S CALLED “VANDALISM”, I believe. He told me he’d lived on Cottage Ln. with Lori, wife #2, at some point. Yet, Pattie, wife #1, told me that SHE had also lived on Cottage Ln., at some point with Jay. He might''ve “overlapped” Pattie & Lori, too. Strange, Jay gained an “instant job”, marrying Lori her father owned a rock shop, & that rock shop was only blocks away from Cottage Ln. Jay told me that when he went to return the antique bed of Pattie’s an heirloom she cherished, she said he “couldn’t find her.” Pattie told me that when she asked for it, he told her he’d “stored it” at a “friend’s” house. The bed ended up in the bedroom of Jay’s daughter, Jolene. Pattie told me that Jay had had an affair with the wife of a neighbor, when she was married to Jay.

10/28/2009 12:01:57 PM - To me, Jay IS A THIEF..constantly leapfrogged from one woman to the next...changes out one woman, holds on to her while sexing/dating another, until he finds “Ms. Next” who he likes better, then crushes the previous one''s heart. He’s “changed up” several times..with just about every wife/girlfriend & while still in a relationship with another. He usually did this for sex and/or financial gain. He’ll try to keep past lovers on good terms, use them as sounding boards when necessary, like with his 2nd wife & Evelyn Vignola. Jay told me that his time at Edgemeade, a facility correctional? in MD, was for auto theft. He’s a “recovered” alcoholic, spent rehab time in Melwood Clinic in MD. My musical friends, a couple who “knew him when”, recalled when Jay asked where he could get a drink at 10:00 A.M. The wife of the couple described Jay: “he seemed a little ‘oily’ to me.” Jay’s 2nd wife, Lori, might forever hang in the background of your relationship, as she was w/mine, when she continued to “feed” jobs to Jay, & he used his own daughter, Jolene, to deliver Lori’s jobs to our home. It''s as if he wants his former women and/or relatives to continue shoring up his lifestyle, to ensure he always has $ coming from them.

10/28/2009 12:02:21 PM - I think that Jay counts on life being so fastpaced that no one will have time to slow down to notice what he does. James Dean was supposedly “bisexual.” According to Kenneth Anger’s book, Hollywood Babylon II, in his chapter “The Trouble With Jimmy”, Dean was “a host of thriving colony of crabs. He acquired the critters from a binge of sleeping around…Dean had taken to hanging out at the Club, an East Hollywood leather bar” 135 Anger described Dean as a “predatory night prowler, who dug anonymous sex” & “had recently discovered the magic word of S and M…Regulars at the Club tagged him with a singular moniker: the Human Ashtray. When stoned, he would bare his chest and beg for his masters to stub out their butts on it. After his fatal car crash, the coroner made note of the ‘constellation of keratoid scars'' on Jimmy’s torso.” 135 Jay told me about his “game” with other boys, as a teen, how they’d place lit cigarettes between their forearms, & see who’d be “the winner” ..whichever was the last to withdraw his arm while being burned. Jay told me in the beginning of our relationship that a scar on his arm came from burning himself with his jeweler''s torch. He told me, at the end of our relationship, that the scar really came from the cigarettechicken game he’d played with other teen boys. Jay will only give you the PARTIAL truth about anything, if at all. His favorite mode of lying is omission, with impunity.

10/28/2009 12:02:48 PM - Pattie Jay''s wife #1 told me about Jay''s having run off with gay motorcycle guys & disappeared into the night, not coming home that night. One of Jay''s flattery moves when living with meafter, I assume, he''d begun his affair with Melinda Yalomwas to tell me that I should write stories. I think he was jealous of me. After that, Melinda so he told me encouraged HIM to write, which resulted in a raunchy story he tried to publish in The Sun. The Sun rejected it for inappropriate content. I saw the rejection letter. He wrote it after returning from our last beach vacation together. On the last night of our vacation, Jay went to a strip club, had a lap dance from a stripper. He wrote about the stripper, showed me the story. I have a copy. He may try to convince himself & others that I “made” him “choose” between me & his family as he cruelly said, after informing me “it’s over”, so had to leave me. Truth: He was separated or so he said about one year, from wife #2, Lori, & lived with his old mother, before dating me. Julia Leigh’s email to me conveyed that his excuse to Julia, was that it was “The cat’s for God’s sake” that “made” him leave Lori, & that was BEFORE I began dating him. He told me his excuse that he left Lori because she made him feel like a “cash machine”, & told me that he had tried to have or had an extramarital affair with a married woman named “Janet” while still married to Lori. Debby came after Janet, I came after Debby. I didn’t “make” him bring his daughter to live in our home almost every other weekend, for 8+ years, when she had custody time with him. He USED me & my home as a place to raise her. Not too much longer after she was no longer a minor, he ditched me.

10/28/2009 12:03:50 PM - My face may have “reminded” him of his guilt remember..I was not The Other Woman there were TWO Other Women, Janet & Debby, who came before me, who Jay had a thing with, while still married to Lori, Wife #2, but surely, Melinda Yalom’s face will remind him of at least HALF of my reasons for profiling him on the web. He is a yellow bellied USER. I feel certain that his sisters & mother tired of his crap, of gladhanding him and/or giving him shelter, to “cover” for him. He told me that he’d gotten so much money from his mother over the years, that she would not be leaving him much, if anything, in her will one of the few things I would later believe was “truth” that came out of his mouth. I also never asked him ONE THING about any of his family members’ “wills”, although I had HIM & his daughter, as benefactors in mine I changed that! Jay comes off as very intelligent but mainly regurgitates what he’s heard others say/sing. In the beginning, “romantic” as he appeared, he gave me tourmalines. He left me. He said Lori asked for tanzanite/tanzanites & he gave her one. He left Lori. He’ll probably give Melinda Yalom jewels, too, then leave her, eventually. If he gives her jewels, they''ll probably be from part of his “take” from his former rock shop inventory, from when he ran a shop with Lori, from his “divorce settlement.” If he comes across as a “natty” dresser, it’s probably because of clothes women like me have bought for him. Silk ties, dress shirts, black shirts to wear for his band jobs, etc.

10/28/2009 12:04:15 PM - His mother seemed to want to interfere in our relationship, too, said “Jay never could refuse Lori anything.” She also told me one time, Evelyn was good for Jay What was her motive, if not to interfere in my relationship with him? She seemed wonderful at other times, albeit “provincial”..your typical Campbell’s Soup cook, ham loaves & all like Aunt Bee from the Andy Griffith show. She’d probably not tried steamed mussels before I prepared them for her. When she said those things, she came off just like the mother Angela Lansbury in The Manchurian Candidate. I didn’t deserve to be dissed by Jay’s mother. My family didn’t deserve his/her disrespect, either. My mother’s musical talent passed to me through her genes, talent I have is through her, & by my discipline. Jay, to me, insulted all that. Perhaps I should’ve been more mercenary, like I think Jay is, should’ve gone for a CEO, banker, lawyer, MDsought their “net worth,” instead. In my heart, I sought one who could share my musical spirituality, someone to share music with me, as another musician. I''ve forgiven myself for choosing Jay Brown. He could easily dupe even some smart women. He used his ”love” of his children to attract me, could possibly do so again. He did it to Lori, wife #2, I think that''s why he was able to adopt her son, James born out of wedlock..convinced her he''d be good with children. Wife #2’s daddy owned a rock/gem shop because of that, Jay “landed” himself an “instant” job, for years. HE SAW THE “DOLLAR SIGNS”, I think.

10/28/2009 12:04:42 PM - He SEEMED like a good guy since he adopted James. I hope he didn''t molest James, and hope that wasn''t why James seldom, if ever, in the 8.5 years James visited us during Christmases, James usually had a scowl on his face. James seldom gave Jay presents. Jay noticed me, my college degree finally earned, divorcee, careerseeking, & he didn’t have to pay full rent or mortgage for a lifetime, to put a roof over my head no kids to care for, time on her hands to help care for his daughter I put the roof over her head, just about every other weekend, for 8 years or more. Yes, so did Jay, but my money paid half the rent/utilities, most months. He apparently even had his daughter convinced that “bisexuality” is the “norm,” despite what Jay told me about his cousin Paul Brown having oralsexed him when Jay was age 12. She sent me a hate letter after he’d left me, one I did not deserve. I don''t believe in the term “bisexual”..think that those claiming to be “bisexual” were sexually molested/abused as children, & that the only legitimate “bisexual” is someone who has BOTH sets of sex organs “hermaphrodites”, & that those claiming to be “bisexual” are merely trying to JUSTIFY sexing both females & males, but who have CONFUSED SEXUAL IDENTITIES!

10/28/2009 12:05:08 PM - After years of mentoring/hugging Jolene, gifting her for many Bdays, etc., she sent me a letter with “You are only his ‘ex’ [ ] a worthless piece of skin.” She needs a life lesson in sociology, & to read Tatum O’Neal’s book, A Paper Life..should read DDHG profiles, posted by daughters of alleged/errant cheaters..those about Jody McComas, Alex Malin, James Jones, William Northrup, Jeanno Hall, Gerald Galbraith, Jack Steelman, Joseph Hayes, Joe Romano, & Marvin Spates..all posted by daughters, about their fathers. About Spates: “My father is a lying cheating bastard & has been married to my mother for over 25yrs. They were high school sweethearts have three children and one grandchild together” Ask Ezra Yu, Dalestone Jewelry Collection, Inc. proprietor in Lakeridge, VA, Taiwanese man & my supervisor for about 7/8 months. He brought wax jobs for Jay to cast when Jay lived with me in Manassas. Ezra told me, when I showed him Jay’s ad on the swingers’ site that Jay had joined advertising for casual sex with bicurious men/strangers that he “knew” Jay was “sick”. Ezra DID NOT SAY WHY HE THOUGHT SO. Ezra… “MR. CHRISTIAN”.. FESS UP. Stop hiding behind the “CHRISTIAN” FAÇADE if that’s what you’ve done. COME OUT & TELL US WHY YOU THOUGHT JAY WAS “SICK”! If you do not come out to tell us why, then I’ll think that you, too, are a FAKE who does not believe in commonlaw marriage, so wants to “punish” women who live with men “out of wedlock,” EVEN THOUGH MORE THAN A DOZEN STATES IN OUR UNION RECOGNIZE THAT COMMONLAW MARRIAGE EXISTS AFTER A WOMAN HAS LIVED WITH A MAN FOR 7 YEARS, & I lived with Jay for 8.5 years!

10/28/2009 12:05:43 PM - Was Ezra just another male “artist” wanting to “live off” majorly the earnings of wife Dorothy “corporate career” woman, so “backed” Jay’s WEAK in my opinion excuses for living off women? PROVE your Christian ethics, Ezra. TELL US WHY YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT JAY BROWN WAS “SICK”. If not, I will NEVER trust another professed Christian! Ezra, there’s no “forgiving” Jay the Pervert. Ezra, when I showed you proof positive the ad I found that Jay had placed on a swingers’ site, for casual sex with bisexual men, you told me right then that you “knew” had “known” for some time that Jay was “sick” but didn''t tell me why you thought you “knew”. In my first mos. working for Ezra, an insurance rep came in, asked if Ezra wanted insurance for his employees I heard Ezra tell him “no”. Possibly, though, Ezra bought insurance for himself. Later, I was assaulted, held hostage at Ezra’s shop, robbed by 2 black felons, my only recourse was filing for workman’s comp, which Jay Brown, I think, tried to prevent me from receiving. One felon bound/assaulted me at gunpoint, left me bleeding, shocked. Consequently, I’d not feel safe working at Ezra''s shop. Months later, after I filed for WC insurance, Jay Brown called my brother in MD, asked my brother to “persuade” me to not file, told my brother that Ezra was “just a small businessman”, that I shouldn’t try to collect my WC claim. Ezra drove a BMW, paid for private art classes for his daughter. After the robbery, Ezra invited me & my S.O. to dinner we accepted twice. Why would he suddenly, for the first time in seven months, invite me & my S.O., to dinner? Ezra had NEVER invited me & my S.O. out to dinner BEFORE the robbery.That’s how an honest, vulnerable woman’s life fared, caught twixt a “Bible Thumper’s “action” NONaction, when the “Bible Thumper” would not tell me why he thought Jay was “sick” & Jay’s socalled “democratic” world views, & when both, in my opinion, “supported” each other as “friends.”

10/28/2009 12:06:06 PM - Melinda Yalom should find out who “Janet” was married woman who Jay told me he tried to have a fling with, or with whom he had a fling...she came before Debby. Debby came before me. Jay told me that Janet told him, “I don’t want your problems to become mine.” I think that Jay’s second wife knows who “Janet” is. I’m not willing to talk to Lori to find out who “Janet” was, but feel certain that Lori knows who “Janet” was. If Melinda were to contact Lori, & ask Lori, I think Lori would tell her who Janet was. JAY IS/WAS A SICK PREDATOR/OPPORTUNIST WITH A SEXUAL ADDICTION. He “supported” the porn industry when buying/renting hardcore porn orgy, malemale, femalefemale for years. I lived with him for 8.5 years in the last 4, he seldom “rose to the occasion” without first watching a porn flick, usually maleonmale. It’s called porn creep. I wasn''t denying him sex, either, so don''t let him tell you that bull. He also had some strange TV program habits childish, liked to watch the The Simpsons cartoons, as if he was still a kid himself.

10/28/2009 12:06:28 PM - He’s probably turned Melinda Yalom’s sun room into his jewelry repair studio, with his lapidary equipment, as he did when living with me in Manassas. He’ll probably try to “build clients” from there, find antique shops, offer to repair jewelry, trim chipped crystal glasses & perfume bottle stoppers on his wheels, resilver brass flutes for music stores, get “piecemeal” jobs. Meanwhile, he''ll shatter the crystal/pure heart of some honest woman or dishonest woman, like Melinda Yalom, when she moved in on her former friend''s man, while still married to Ed Rejuney, husband #2, I think, leaving nubs where her confidence once was. I also don’t think Jay is as “good” of a silversmith as he has many think. Silver pieces that he made for me have “firescale” black/purple spots that can’t be shined out, which means he probably didn’t pickle the annealed silver piece enough before finishing the piece. One gold ring he made for me definitely has “pits” in the gold, pits that could not be mizzied/smoothed out he said it happened when he didn’t put enough “flow” or dust mixed in, to make the gold flow. See about firescale on http://projewelrydesign.com/tag/firescale/ : “While some artisans may deliberately cause firescale, it is usually a blight that one wants to avoid &, when that fails, treat.” Jay’s “M.O.” is the “chameleon”, to morph into the conformed/woman’s “ideal match,” present as the shy boy next door, with a big grin to please & a singing voice to go with his seduction plan. Sure, he’ll be full of “I love you”, “hon”, ”sweetheart”, for years, before he dishes more dirt, to totally undo you.

10/28/2009 12:06:49 PM - Jay can also cry on Q, did when I began dating him, had crocodile tears when he spoke of his time at Edgemeade & about one counselor who was “like a brother” to him years later I’d wonder if he had sex with THAT guy, cried after he told me he was leaving, said “Look what I’ve done to you,” as if he cared. He’s had YEARS of practice on stage, as a professional musician, KNOWS how to fake emotions, can simulate them to convince women, easily, said I Love You even after he''d moved out on the day I was perfecting an oil painting. He’s used women to bail him out financially more than once. He should be arrested for fraud, I think. I’ve probably saved some poor woman at least $2,000 spent for a background check on Jay. She now knows who else to ask for more info & where some of those others are, to verify my story. If Melinda Yalom still won’t believe me, Carie, or Pattie, why would I have found while jobsearching, using Jay’s password that he gave me, used his computer an instant popup message from someone asking HIM, “Do you have a beard?”..when I didn’t know what the hell a “beard” was except for what’s on a man’s face until months later. I discovered that a “BEARD” is a woman who “cover’s” for a guy’s gay/downlow activity. She can be a “BEARD” or some permutation of a fag hag WHETHER REALIZING IT OR NOT I DIDN’T UNTIL I FOUND HIS AD FOR CASUAL SEX, ADVERTISING HE WAS BI, & FOUND THAT AD CLOSE TO THE TIME THAT POP UP MESSAGE APPEARED!

10/28/2009 12:07:18 PM - Pattie told me that Jay wanted her to reverse roles, have her be the male & him the female. I think she even said that he wanted her to strap on a fake penis. If so, he wanted her to sodomize him. He once wore my underwear & wig, stretched my underwear/bra out. I just thought he was being silly but now I realize that he probably expected me to “reverse roles” with him, too, but I didn’t & didn’t have that in mind at the time, or ever. SICK! I wonder if that B&W etching he said he did “years ago…before I met you..I must have been thinking about you even then”.. of a nude brunette, reclined, bare back facing him, wasn’t of Evelyn, Pattie, or some other brunette he’d bedded. Did he say the same thing to you? He showed it to me after I’d etched him in several postures, nude & otherwise. He knew I was a good artist, so seemed to want to be “just like” me, like what I liked, do what I did, prove that he was “as good as” me. To how many women has he said, “I was taken with you”? Yes, if Jay could’ve stolen my shadow, he would’ve.

10/28/2009 12:09:00 PM - FRAUDS LIKE JAY CAN USE WOMEN FOR THEIR MONEY and can go UNDETECTED for years! Jay was LIKE THEM ALL! Most NORMAL people try to FIND ANOTHER JOB BEFORE LOSING OR QUITTING THE OTHER ONE Jay does this WITH FEMALE SEXUAL AND LIVEIN RELATIONSHIPS, INSTEAD not normal, leaves once you’ve busted him, he''s depleted your self esteem, and your bank account is low, or you’re on your last unemployment check, between jobs, & when the job market/economy is in a recession. Vanish as soon as he’s used you up. That might take even a decade. Jay also gets herpes sores on his mouth. Jay is an adroit liar, just like that little girl, Rhoda, in the flick, “The Bad Seed” Even she could charm with her music…had an enchanting smile. So could the psychopath in the flick, “Gaslight” also like Jay Lilith in Lilith also like Jay. He cheated on Evelyn Vignola with me, one of the first women he lived with, before marrying Pattie D. wife #1 cheated on Pattie she said with two gay guys & also their neighbor’s wife, so at least 3 different times, with 3 different people, and perhaps a 4th, IF he “overlapped” Pattie with Lori, wife #2 cheated on wife #2 Lori cheated on me I lived with him for 8.5 years with a “friend” of mine, Melinda Yalom, married at the time, & with whom he ended up living when it all came to a head, I was as livid as Mia Farrow was when she discovered that Woody had boinked her adopted daughter. I never watched another Allen movie after I found out about Allen. Meanwhile still with me, Jay advertised as being bisexual, on a swingers’ site, ADVERTISED for CASUAL SEX with BICURIOUS MEN. He wouldn’t have met Melinda if not for a mutual friend in common to Melinda & I, who invited us all to a party, so he LEAPFROGGED from me to her. My many longdeveloped networks were UNDONE because of Jay’s deceit.

10/28/2009 12:09:23 PM - Just like the flick, Three Faces of Eve, it’s Three Faces Of Everett, one he shows to family/outsiders/musicians, another to his Woman of the Moment, another to his “buddies” on the downlow. Probably has more faces than that. He could simulate emotions when seducing women with his “romantic” songs, “morphing” into what he thought they’d like. He probably did it with Lori, too. Jay’s daughter’s named after a Dolly Parton tune. He would find a song I liked, knew & played on guitar, harmonize with me, back me up on guitar. We sounded like Ian & Sylvia, or like Emmylou Harris & Don Williams. One example was the tune, You Don’t Know Love “til it chills you to the bone, turns you inside out, leaves you all alone” A big “killer seducer” tune he used when he was in Night Patrol, from Glen Frye, The One You Love, was about a guy who seduces a woman away from her partner. Hmm. Wonder if he used that one on Melinda, to leave Ed?

10/28/2009 12:09:48 PM - Quote from Gita Mehta’s A River Sutra: “to prevent suffering a man must be capable of suffering..a man who cannot suffer is not alive” 35 Jay’s life of sexual excess led him to despise anyone’s “weakness” for imposing on the least charity of which he was/is capable. He is truly “dead” inside. Melinda or whoever else is his current “squeeze” had better have internet software detection & a keystroke monitor because she is going to need them with Jay, to catch him in his lies. Last I knew, Jay still has the same cell phone # he had when I knew him. CELL PHONES MAKE FOR EASY CHEATING. Jay is a home handyman many, if not most, of his clients were women. He’ll probably do to you what I think he did to me, when he’s done with you: tell your friends lies about you to get them to side with him and/or cover for him. JAY, the HUMAN SIPHON! I tried confronting him after all that crappy malemale porn he wanted to watch & watched. In bed one time, I asked him, “but have you ever been attracted to a man?” His reply: “I saw a guy in a book store one time who I thought was attractive.” After he’d moved out, but still came over to the house kept waffling, giving me mixed signals, he admitted that when he was younger, he’d had sex with men he’d met in theaters, adult bookstores, etc. Lying poser! I recall one vacation in Hatteras. Jolene & I got caught in a rip tide, she, Jay, myself and two surfers the only persons in sight, in the area. Jay was on the beach. Jolene & I stuck on a sandbar. I screamed to him that I couldn’t swim back. He didn’t dive in at least to possibly save Jolene, acted was he? helpless. If not for my screams, those 2 surfers wouldn’t have saved Jolene & I. Notice that ONE “alias”, among the names on Jay’s “buddy list” See http://datingpsychos.com/view_psycho.html?psycho_id=2149, “NO MORE GURLZ”.

10/28/2009 12:10:13 PM - Jay had me “repeat” my mother’s pain female musician abandoned by a male musician, her 2nd husband, in her 10th year of marriage, but her 2nd husband was a genius. Jay is/was NOT a genius. My mother’s 2nd husband was a Stanford graduate, a retired US Army Colonel, a syndicate cartoonist, jazz pianist, oil painter, & a career analyst in the defense industry. My mother was a beautiful woman, physically & spiritually. She told me that she was a “poor man’s Greta Garbo”, because she had beautiful “gams” legs. My mother’s 2nd husband, an alcoholic LIKE JAY!, left her for a Barroom Betty. She stopped going to his gigs because his skin reeked of alcohol when he got home at night. Probably, before Jay was treated for alcoholism at Melwood Clinic, while married to Lori, wife #2, his skin also reeked of alcohol..possibly why Lori stopped sleeping with him, and/or she stopped sleeping with him b/c she knew or suspected his proclivities for sex w/men, so didn''t want to compromise her sexual health!

10/28/2009 12:10:45 PM - A lousy lover, my mother’s 2nd husband was left limp by alcohol. Jay was also limp most of the time when he lived with me, couldn’t stay up very long. If I am wrong, then why, in Julia Lee’s email to me, about Debby Jay dated Debby before me, did Julia quote Debby, indicating that Jay “had problems” sexually? Though Jay had been on the wagon for years, he, to me, had short endurance couldn''t “keep it up” Jay gets “bored” when the financial resources of the woman with whom he lives fail to “shore” him up she''s at most peril during economic crises, when he is likely to leave her, in my opinion. Once Jay’s decided to ditch you, when you speak TO Jay, you will really only speak AT him or PAST him. His eyes will glaze over. Conversely, when your relationship is new with him, he’ll be like that gay guy you hear about, who “can communicate with women better than straight men”…SEEMS like he EMPATHIZES with you. WHY THE CONTRAST? HE IS SEXUALLY CONFUSED, MORE LIKE A GAY MAN THAN STRAIGHT! He''s vile. An oaf! The type who just wants to see if he canhas been this way for decades, at least since I knew him, & I met him when I was 18. He’s a twotime divorcee with a wake of unhappy women in his past, a selfish, gluttonous male slut, a shapeshifter, NOT who he says he is! Remove him from the planet, Goddesses Kali & Saraswati. No woman deserves his crap.

10/28/2009 1:10:38 PM - TO JAY BROWN: the profiles I have created about you on the internet are NOT coming off, if I have anything to say/do about it. And if those profiles that I posted about you keep coming off datingpsychos.com, I will create a web site, especially about YOU, and upload all the photos that I have so far posted on you, to tell my WHOLE STORY. This is my truth, which may not necessarily be as others remember it. But if my story is to have any validity, I have to tell the truth as I see it. ~ Pattie Boyd, from her book, Pattie Boyd, Wonderful Tonight

10/30/2009 7:41:02 AM - “Psychopaths can be found in legislatures, hospitals, and usedcar lots. They''re your neighbor, your boss, and your blind date. Because they have no conscience, they''re natural predators. If you didn''t have a conscience, you''d be one too. “[‘]The con man works oneonone,[’] says Babiak. [‘]They''ll go after a woman, marry her, take her money trust/ love/ sex..., then move on and marry someone else. The puppet master would manipulate somebody to get at someone else. This type is more powerful because they''re hidden.[’] Babiak says psychopaths have three motivations: * thrillseeking, * the pathological desire to win, * and the inclination to hurt people. [‘]They''ll jump on any opportunity that allows them to do those things,[’] he says. [‘]If something better comes along, they''ll drop you and move on.[’]” Source: http://cyberpaths.blogspot.com/ That source exactly describes who I think Jay Brown is!

11/1/2009 10:52:26 AM - Per my comment on 10/28/2009 12:03:50 PM ...the word beneficiaries should be substitute for benefactors. That was a typo. I had put Jay and Jolene in my will as BENEFICIARIES, but I changed all that, when Jay left me.

11/1/2009 10:57:16 AM - And the quotation marks should have stayed around this, as I intended: [QUOTATION BEGINS HERE:] This is my truth, which may not necessarily be as others remember it. But if my story is to have any validity, I have to tell the truth as I see it.[END OF QUOTATION] ~ cited from Pattie Boyd, and her book, Pattie Boyd, Wonderful Tonight. That woman KNOWS what is to have her male partner backstab her. She had unsuccessfully been through two In Vitro Fertilizations, while married to one husband, trying to have children meanwhile, her husband thought nothing of sexing two women outside their marriage, and having children by each.

11/1/2009 11:17:11 AM - Jay, it would seem, likes to pit pronatalists breeders against barren women ..those who had difficulty trying to have children, to see them in psychological pain, because, I think, deep down he is a misogynist..hates women. He did it to me, even after I unselfishly helped him raise/mentor his daughter, for 8.5 years. And I doubt that any of his other women besides Pattie, his first wife…she was loving and adopted a child, later, when she found an honest, loving lifepartner would have been so selfless to have helped raise or mentor another woman''s child.

11/1/2009 11:19:00 AM - Jay, it would seem, likes to pit pronatalists breeders against barren women ..those who had difficulty trying to have children, to see them in psychological pain, because, I think, deep down he is a misogynist..hates women. He did it to me, even after I unselfishly helped him raise/mentor his daughter, for 8.5 years. And I doubt that any of his other women besides Pattiehis first wife, who was loving and adopted a child, later, when she found an honest, loving lifepartnerwould have been so selfless to have helped raise or mentor another woman''''s child.

11/2/2009 8:30:59 AM - Jay has an history of meeting his next fling/affair, through his female friends, WHILE he was either 1 still not divorced, 2 living with a woman in a supposedly monogamous/committed relationship, 3 separated from wife, or 4 living as man and wife.

11/2/2009 8:31:15 AM - Whether legally married to Ed Rejuney, at the time, or “commonlaw” married to Ed when I knew her, I still considered Melinda Yalom to have been MARRIED to Ed at the time she began her affair with Jay Brown. Melinda Yalom was the THIRD MARRIED WOMAN that Jay consorted with…with whom he engaged in adultery, or “stepped outside” of his livein relationship. He “stepped out” while married to Pattie wife #1 with the neighbor’s wife. He “stepped out” while married to Lori wife #2 with he told me this and that she was married at the time he had a thing for her Janet. He “stepped out” with Melinda when she lived with Ed who I considered to be Melinda’s husband, and between my 8th and 9th year living with him. He even cheated on Evelyn Vignola, when she lived with him in McLean, VA, and that time, cheated WITH ME..or tried to, and that happened 28+ years prior to my getting involved with him again stupid me! He got naked, but couldn’t get it up, then. But he got naked BEFORE he told me he lived with Evelyn back then, and after seducing me with music.

11/2/2009 8:31:59 AM - The first two married women he cheated with, I think, were WISE ENOUGH not to leave their husbands to live with Jay. Jay admitted to me, that he’d had a fling or tried to with Janet. He told me that Janet was married at the time he also told me that Janet told him, “I don’t want your problems to become mine,” and that he was married to Lori, wife #2, meanwhile. He never told me about another MARRIED woman, the neighbor’s married wife that he bedded, while he was married to Pattie, wife #1. SHADY AND SICK! I’m still befuddled that Melinda would leave a man like Ed, college educated, I believe, and played beautiful classical/jazz piano with a full time career, for, in my opinion a not college educated, last I knew wageearning, sloppy fraud with a juvie history, an history of alcoholism, a history of bankruptcy, an history of treatment for behavioral problems Edgemead, in MD Jay also had sessions with Michael Borash Reston, VA, before I lived with Jay. I know because rendezvoused with Jay in front of Borash''s offices, when we first began dating. That should have been my RED FLAG to discontinue with him. history of foreclosure on his marital home he told me about foreclosing. It was the home he owned with his second wife, Lori and an history of cheating on women that stretches back to the early 1970’s more than 30 years!

11/2/2009 8:46:54 AM - The songs Jay sings are about love, but he is more about deceit than about love. If you listen carefully, many of his songs even the ones he sung on stage..like Randy Travis’s On The Other Hand, and Glenn Frye''s The One You Love are about cheating men, like Pittsburg Stealers by father/daughter duo, The Kendalls Ry Cooder''s The Tattler and various Robert Cray songs. He''s a snake...a fraud for more than three decades.

11/2/2009 10:33:00 AM - As far back as I can see or tell..., he''s shortcircuited and/or cheated on all and any relationships which makes FOUR with the women with whom he has lived.

11/2/2009 10:36:19 AM - Per my last comment, above...Melinda Yalom would make FIVE, if he was overlapping sexing the both of us at the same time, when and after he''d begun his affair with her, which happened while he lived with me, because we were sexually active, weekly, before he left me, up into less than a month before he moved out, so if she thinks he had cut me off, she''d be wrong.

11/2/2009 12:50:23 PM - When I discovered emails he’d received from the swingers’ site that he had joined, confirming his membership, around that same time, I also found and kept a copy of a couple of emails that his gay male cousin, Paul Brown, had sent to him, with the message from Paul, “be careful,” so I suspect that Paul Brown KNEW what Jay was up to. Also, around this same time, while on the computer, a pop up message came to Jay that asked, “Do you have a beard?” I didn’t know what a “beard” was back then, except for what’s on a man’s face. “Beard” is code for a woman who covers for a gay or bi or closet gay guy, when in a livein relationship with him. I certainly never agreed to be his beard, nor agreed to be a swinger. While at the dinner table with me, one time, he got angry and threw a set of keys yes..a FLYING PROJECTIVE WEAPON! toward my face/head area, and just missed by inches. He had to spackel the wall where the keys had left the hole, and paint over it later, to hide the hole the landlord gave him a discount off the rent, that month, for the paint job. Another time, he raised his fist to my face, as if to hit me. I told him if one finger of his landed on my body, I’d call 911 so fast, it’d make his head spin.

11/2/2009 12:50:46 PM - After he moved his things out, he dropped by with this book that he’d bought, that he thought was “cool”. It was a photography artistic??? “coffee table” book, written by Calvin Klein’s wife, and depicted transvestites “vogueing”. One year, he took me to a salsa club, because I wanted to see what salsa dancing was all about. The club turned out to be a place where transvestites and crossdressers hung out. While I was sitting at the bar, waiting for Jay to exit the bathroom he took a looonngg time!, eating my shrimp scampi, a goodlooking, lean man approached me, who looked straight. The stranger struck up a conversation with me, told me he was married and that he was also a crossdresser shock! I shrugged him off. Years later, I would wonder what Jay was doing, taking so long in that bathroom Jay, once or twice, brought home The Blade, a homosexual publication, to read.

11/2/2009 12:51:09 PM - One time, in the first year of our relationship, I found, in his inventory, a pendant he said he’d made. It was a pink rose quartz, cabochon triangle, set in a silver bezel the pink triangle is a gay symbol. I asked him whose job it was. He told me it belonged to a gay customer who had forgotten to pick it up. I suspected, years later, that it was something that Jay, himself, might have worn, when he was out on the town, without his female “main squeeze” of the moment. He took me to D.C., for a day trip, one time…said we would go see art, bookshops, etc. On the way, he bought for me, a silver pair of earrings form Afghanistan, with green stones. I think it was another one of his “guilt gifts” to me, because, when we arrived at a certain book store, it turned out to be a bookstore where gays hung out.

11/2/2009 12:51:39 PM - After he’d moved out, he called me on the phone to ask me if I wanted to go to lunch with him in Manassas, VA, at a tavern. He asked if I’d go to a Harville Hendrix, Getting the Love You Want seminar with him..he said he’d pay for it. I said yes. We went to lunch which he paid for, but he reneged on the seminar. So, he was torquing my chain back then. An emotional rollercoaster hell.

11/2/2009 1:33:36 PM - Other psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths, and creeps, depicted in films, remind me of Jay, whenever I see those movies: Dickie Greenlief in The Talented Mr. Ripley Frank Abagnale Jr. in Catch Me If You Can Harry Powell in The Night of the Hunter Diego Rivera who seduces Frida’s, his wife’s sister in Frida Kahlo Hugh in Blood Oranges John in Nine 1/2 Weeks Seducerviolinist in The Red Violin only Jay did not have the same “stamina” Sex addict in Eyes Wide Shut The last four films on the list are ones that Jay chose to watch with me. After that, his choices of videos were more and more malemale gay porn and male gay orgies. I told him, EXPLICITLY, that I DID NOT WANT to watch films, however erotic, when they were not about people in love, and involved more than two people in sex. He evidently did not hear me, because he kept purchasing and renting them, and I caught him masturbating to them, on various occasions. Jay is, to me, in many ways, like Richard Forbes, who is profiled on this site area for Forbes is Newton, MA: “He is attracted to a woman who is soft, caring, loving and sensitive, therefore takes advantage of that part of her. He will claim to love them, but when it starts getting into the next level, i.e. commitment... he backs away, hurts the other woman and the wife, although he admits to his spouse that he is involved with someone, he plays the martyr and states that he can''t make up his mind therefore playing both women... wanting his cake and to eat it too”

11/2/2009 1:54:18 PM - I think Jay has made it his career to look for women to support him so that he can continue to search for more women/men to sex. Another worst part of my life experience with Jay, was when he chose Melinda as his confidante, while still living with me. He took up her friendly? suggestions as to where we could go, where to dine out, and what we could do on our vacations together for example, at Assateague Island, where she and Ed had gone. He divulged with her my PERSONAL information…about my gynecological health, about when I, for weeks, bled profusely, from polyps I had to have them surgically removed, in hospital, which he, she, or both ASSUMED was peri menopause for me because, he said, she’d been through menopause herself, therefore, he presented her as a “expert”, when, my bleeding could have very well been from press brought on by what he and she were doing behind my back. Very likely, in my first three or four years together, I could have conceived of a child, had Jay let my natural course in life progress, because I did not begin menstruating until age 15, so was late in my physical “biological clock” development, so, very well, my reproductive cycle could have stretched longer, or begun later, than other women. He took up her suggestion of what I should read, and bought a book gave it to me about peri menopause on her suggestion, he asid. I resent the hell out of him, for that interference and her interloping. And what was he doing, divulging my personal health information, to a third party??? Melinda reminds me of that bitch, Livia, in the series, I, CLAUDIUS.

11/2/2009 2:07:06 PM - typo in last comment..it should be: when, my bleeding could have very well been from STRESS brought on by what he and she were doing behind my back. If she did it to me, she''ll do it to you, too. So, I think, no man is safe around Melinda Yalom. If he''s sexy to her, I think, no matter if she is MARRIED or living with a man seeming to be in a COMMITTED relationship, if another sexy man comes her way, he, apparently, is not off limits to her, even if he''s been in a supposedly committed relationship with another woman, for years living with that woman. Watch your backs! And it seems she likes to keep old boyfriends in the background or in the wings, too. There was one guy I met who hung around, who still seemed to be smitten with her, when I''d go to those Knotty Pine Club parties of hers. Just like a QUEEN BEE, I''d say. And I noticed she''d leave, on an occasional table or credenza, in her living room, a photo of her in a bathing suit, when she was a young woman..looked like she was in her late teens or early twenties, that she''d leave out, displayed for any man to see, when she had guests. Truth? She looked no better in a bathing suit back then, than I did, at same age. Narcissist, is my opinion.

11/2/2009 2:16:11 PM - And, to me—in my opinionany adult, middleaged woman, who keeps a room full of Barbie dolls in boxes, and has doll houses that she purchases furniture for, never grew up. While pretending to be my friend, she gave me a “jazz singer” Barbie, that I researched on Ebay that typically sold for $9, and said, “This is you.” I gave it away to a State Theatre benefit for disadvantaged children in Falls Church, several years ago. I heard it from Jay, that she had bitched about an ecrucolored, lace, long skirt that I’d never worn, but was beautiful, and that I’d given to her. I heard, from Jay, that there was a “spot” on it. Well, I guess she just was not creative enough to die it black. It would’ve been fitting, I think, for her to have worn a black lace skirt, for she, in my opinion, is not much better than a Black Widow.

11/2/2009 2:28:15 PM - Melinda Yalom, while I think pretending to be my friend, in the first or second year that I knew her, at her home, one time, confided that she’d had problems with her own mother. I had confided that I also had “issues” with my own mother. So, I think, back then, she was trying to “get into my head”, to find my “weaknesses” to work against them, with Jay. To me, she is nothing more than an underhanded backstabber, who will go to any lengths to subterfuge another woman’s relationship, to get that woman’s man, no matter how long the other woman has been involved and living with the man for whom Melinda has the “hots” . And, to me, Jay Brown “works” those dynamics woman against woman to his advantage, to prey on them, to destroy them, or deplete or whittle away, at their confidence and self esteem. He plays one woman off or against another.

11/2/2009 2:35:48 PM - And, I think, when Jay Brown “plays one woman off another”, it is because “Ms. Next” has more money, property, or a better job, than the last. So, I think that Jay Brown is nothing better than a GIGOLO, mercenary, or opportunistic BITCH! From what I witnessed, he had a beautiful home that he and Lori 2nd wife had bought together, that was MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL at least from what I saw of it, from the outside than what Melinda owned in MD. So, I think, sooner or later, like the rest of his “disposable women”, Jay will do the same with Melinda, who confided in me that her first husband had cheated on her, and because JAY BROWN goes for the “easy mark”…the “easy quarry”…when he sees that it is to his financial or personal advantage.

11/2/2009 2:46:51 PM - At least I stood alone, without any partner or man by my side, my entire lifetime..an independent woman, when searching for my partner in life, and when I thought I’d found the few who turned out to be jerks. Not like Melinda, who I think leapfrogged, from one man to another, meanwhile, in a supposedly committed, livein relationship with another man than the one after which she honked, which, to me, shows her insecurities. But then..if she did that, then Jay Brown and she were perfectly matched, because Jay’s habit was to leapfrog from woman to woman, bed to bed, house to house, too.

11/2/2009 2:59:47 PM - Jay once showed me a pencil or charcoal etching that he’d drawn, of a nude brunette, lying on her side, back toward him. He said “I must’ve drawn this back then, when thinking read: foreshadowed of you, because I think it was of you, back then.” Don’t be surprised if he uses that same etching to say the same thing, of his next woman. He liked to keep a “gallery” of photos—some nude, of his former women. One photo, though not nude, was of a woman he’d lived with, Evelyn Vignola. It was a photo that appeared to be of her taken in the late 60’s or 70’s, that a professional photographer had taken of her..not sure, but the photographer’s name had, I think, “Vincent” in it..possibly his last name. I wondered whether Evenly had given it to him, or whether he’d just appropriated it, without telling her, and kept it. Another photo, a baby photo infant photo was of his 1st wife, Pattie. It was one that Jay kept at the base of his lamp, in his office, on the back porch of the residence we rented. Years later, I told Pattie about that photo. Pattie said that she never gave Jay permission to keep that photo. Think about that…and NEVER LET HIM TAKE ANY PHOTOS OF YOU, nude or otherwise. Avoid this fraud.

11/2/2009 3:24:23 PM - Jay also told me that his oldest sister, Dulce, had either paid off or gave him the money to pay off—his attorney that handled his 2nd divorce divorce to second wife, Lori..so, yes, I think more women “gladhanded” Jay than his mother and the women with whom Jay lived. So, to me, Jay is a horrible financial risk for any woman.

11/2/2009 3:41:44 PM - Inevitably, he may “shore” you through a first few “low times”, between jobs, but, ultimately, I think, and finally…, when the woman’s money runs low or her income is about to run out possibly her last unemployment insurance check, as happened with me, or she is in financial crises because, I think, in large part, what she contributed financially to their partnership, over years, Jay will run, too. He told me, during or after his divorce proceedings with 2nd wife, Lori, that her credit line was bad because of him I wondered about that then I don’t wonder about it now. And he just might break a lease on you, as he did with me, and not give you half the security deposit back when you paid the full security deposit, when you rented a house together, for example, even though he may have split the first month’s rent with you.

11/2/2009 3:50:53 PM - One time, while still operating his rock shop in Canterbury Square, in Manassas, a thief stole a large amethyst parrot, or bird made of gemstones, out of the shop. The police caught the criminal but Jay told me later that he let the criminal off the hook..didn’t hold charges, because the criminal had told him that he was gay, and wanted to go to Jail, so he could get free medical treatment for AIDS. So, I thought later…was Jay “transferring resentment” or “blame” to another gay man, or “getting back” at his gay male cousin who he told me had oral sex with him when he was 12?, to “punish” a gay guy, by not letting him get free medical treatment for AIDS? Or was he “protecting” a gay male criminal, just because he was gay?

11/2/2009 4:05:31 PM - Jay also saved himself, in storage fees, 21,000 dollars, or more, across the years he lived with me, by storing his rock shop inventory in our garage which he probably got a writeoff from the IRS, claiming that percentage of the residence for his shop territory..I know this, because one of my parttime jobs, after Jay left me, was in property management, renting out storage units to people. So I KNOW how much storage space he used in our garage I had few things in it, compared to him, maybe a bicycle and a couple of trunks at the most I would guess he used more than 90 percent of our twocar garage space, for his things. So, yes, I think he uses women for whatever they can give him, to take the stress of himself, financially.

11/3/2009 9:27:56 AM - I read profiles on dontdatehimgirl.com and on this site, for about an hour each day, as anyone would read the daily newspaper, and found another guy profiles on DDHG,Terrance Tee Lassiter, who I think shares a similar “M.O.”, or at least many facets of Lassiter’s “M.O.”, to the Jay Brown I knew: “He seeks out insecure women who have there own home and does what will seem like all the right things JUST so he can slide his way in and on to their ‘lease’” and “He''s always on the prowl for women who will be blinded by his charm, move him into their home, buy him things and babysit his kids while he runs the streets” Lassiter is described as a thief in that profile on him. Jay admitted to me that he’d stolen the Cottage Lane Street Sign, which was Fairfax County property, and he had lived on Cottage Lane, in the 1970s. He said that that street sign ended up at the home that he had shared with his second wife Lori, and that he had lived with Lori on Cottage Lane. Well, I came to find out, from Pattie, Jay’s first wife, that he and she had also lived on Cottage Lane at one time, SO JAY JUST MAY HAVE OVERLAPPED LORI AND PATTIE, TOO.

11/3/2009 9:28:19 AM - Jay told me that an antique bed that once belonged to Pattie, had ended up in Lori’s home, and that the bed ended up in Jolene’s—Jay’s daughter’s bedroom. He said he had tried to find Pattie to return the bed, but couldn’t find her to give it back to her. Well, Pattie tells a different story about that heirloom bed of hers. She told me that when she asked for her bed, Jay told her that he’d been “storing it at a friend’s house”. Pattie said she never gave Jay that bed. So, I think that Jay is a thief. He also told me that his time at the Edgemeade institution was for stealing or breaking into cars. You do the math. Now…back to that Lassiter guy, to compare…one of Lassiter’s exes brought him up on charges of domestic abuse “and with pictures of her bruises to prove it, and sent him to jail .. I believed him when he told these allegations weren’t true .. that is until the final chapter when my face was on the other side of his fist ..”

11/3/2009 9:28:48 AM - That blond tiki bar that Jay had, or still might have, with a black top on it, once belonged to my father. My father gave it to me. Yes, I gave it to Jay, but when he arrived to live with me, he had few things . . just a chest of drawers and one gateleg table, not much else. So, I think he likes to get as much as he can out of each woman with whom he lives, then moves on. And, I compare Jay to that Lassiter guy in another way: he also had me babysit his daughter, when he performed at gigs with Marge Calhoun .. gigs that took him to Ocean City, where I’d be left at home, during his daughter’s custody time with him, so Jay was a user in that way, too. And, I’ve already described that time when Jay lifted HIS fist to MY face, when I told him that if he laid one finger on my body, I would call 911 so fast, it would make his head spin. So my comparisons of Jay to Lassiter, are now complete. You do the math.

11/3/2009 10:22:15 AM - He will probably, if he hasn’t already, try to make some part of his next woman’s home his office, from which he can operate his jewelry repair business. Well, let me tell you that I don’t think he is as good at silversmithing as he thinks he is. I have FOUR pieces that he made for me that ALL have fire scale on them. If you don’t know what fire scale is, look it up on line. I’ll quote the description from one source: “Firescale is sometimes referred to as ‘firestain.’ It is a purplish blotchy stain that can appear on silver alloys that contain copper. It appears when the silver/copper alloy is heated in the presence of oxygen. While some artisans may deliberately cause firescale, it is usually a blight that one want to avoid and, when that fails, treat.” He’s not as good in the jewelry business as he thinks he is, in my opinion. Another piece he cast/worked for me was a large gold ring my gold he made for me. He left pits in the gold that couldn’t be “mizzied” or smoothed out. He admitted that those pits were there because he didn’t mix enough gold flow powder or flux into the gold, when he was melting the gold to be cast.

11/3/2009 10:22:40 AM - He will probably try .. if he hasn’t already .. turn Melinda’s back porch into his workshop, with his lapidary equipment, and present himself as a jewelry repair person, who can make smooth chipped crystal glasses, or promise you that he will silver plate things for you, or repair your jewelry. He used the back porch in our home, when he signed a lease with me, that he eventually broke. Please don’t believe him. His rock shop business, Stone Art, went under, and he, not long after, went bankrupt, so could write off debts to various vendors to which he owned money. Frauds always make themselves out to be more important, better people, or better qualified, than they actually are. I FOUND a handwritten note, on line paper, and made a copy of it. I guess he was journaling. He wrote that he felt like a fraud, and that he could never love just one woman. Guess not, since he liked to sex men, too!

11/3/2009 10:24:51 AM - He cheats on the one he cheats with, too, and that has been his consistent, repeat pattern, for more than 30 years of his adult sexual life. Believe it!

11/3/2009 10:45:44 AM - Last I knew, he was supposedly working at Music and Arts, in McLean, VA. He possibly still is there, either selling musical equipment, or possibly giving guitar lessons. A male guitarist friend of mine told me he worked there. The guitarist who told me was a guy who once came to visit Jay, when I still lived with Jay, and stood up for me when Jay told him that my home decorations looked too busy and said it right in front of me, apparently trying to embarrass me or make me look bad in the eyes of someone with whom he was attempting to befriend...seemed like he wanted to keep that new friend he''d met and invited over, all to himself, like the manipulative, sick freak I thought..and still think..Jay Brown is. Jay, in my opinion, was trying to dissuade other jazz musicians from knowing me or knowing about my talent, or from working with me. That guitarist told Jay, I don''t think it looks too busy. I think she did a nice job. It looks nice here. Her decor looks nice. Joke was on Jay. That guitarist became someone who I would occasionally hire to back me at jazz gigs I got, after Jay left me.

11/3/2009 11:09:41 AM - Jay also talked about his “friends” behind his “friends’” backs, both male and female. About Bruce Turner, the guitarist who worked in my first jazz band, Jay said that Bruce’s eyes looked “glazed over” when he wanted Bruce to learn new standards. About John Leigh, former guitarist in Night Patrol, the band was in, Jay said that John looked like he was “stiff”, like he was “carrying two buckets of water”. He also said about John that Julia, John’s wife, was “clinically depressed” and that he suspected something about John’s behavior or personality, that made her depressed. He said about Ed Eastridge, an old buddy of his, from Jay’s Edgemeade days, that, more or less, he thought he was better than Ed, because Jay had stopped doing and dealing drugs, when Ed, formerly of Mo recording studios, in Annapolis, MD, had not stopped. But Pattie, Jay’s 1st wife, told me that Jay sold drugs when she knew him, so Edgemeade, it would seem, didn’t “rehabilitate” Jay from that habit, back then.

11/3/2009 11:10:43 AM - In my first year with Jay, I went with him to a shooting gallery, with his adopted son James, to watch them at rifle practice. James had joined the Army, years later, had hoped to become a ranger, but didn’t make it through training. So be careful, they both know how to use guns. James is Lori’s son, born out of wedlock, by a man Lori knew before she married Jay, and Jay adopted her son. That was why, at first, I thought Jay was a “good guy”, but don’t let Jay fool you. He is NOT a “good guy”. And, I’m afraid that James might take after his adoptive father, because, on one of our vacations in Delaware together, when I also invited Jay’s daughter, Jolene, and her friend, Andrea, to come down there with us, something allegedly happened that I was not comfortable with. Andrea either was still a teen then, or had barely turned 18, so I didn’t know if she was still a minor or not. Andrea admitted to me to having been prescribed Zoloft for depression. One morning, after sleeping in our rental place at the beach, Jolene told me that James had slept with Andrea. If so, he apparently did not care if he might’ve slept with a minor, or that there might have been consequences to his behavior, for example, had Andrea become pregnant, Jay and I might have been cited for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, or something like that. And it''s never nice to take advantage of a girl or woman who is depressed..they can be easy targets for preditors.

11/3/2009 11:19:47 AM - Also, it is just my suspicion, but it may have been Jay who vandalized my car, years later, after I got free of him. I found the driver’s side mirror knocked off of my car, one morning. I made out a police report, and told them that I suspected it may have been my former boyfriend, so they know to keep an eye on him. I also told the Virginia police that I suspect him to be a guy that defrauds women, and told them why, and about the time he threw keys toward my face and head area. The police told me that I should have reported the incident when I lived with him, but I have put police in Maryland and Virginia on notice, about Jay, in case he does something illegal or tries to stalk me. It wouldn’t surprise me if I were to find out that Jay is also a stalker, and someone who would stalk a woman by any means, such as making nasty “breather” phone calls that say nothing when women answer the phone and say “hello”. Jay knew that I had been harassed that way, on one job site, and he seems to like to find a woman’s weaknesses or fears, and play on them, to “tweek” or escalate any psychological pain she might have or has. For example, he might enter a woman’s phone number into phone marketing banks, so she’d be annoyed with crank calls, or he might enter her email address into porn or Viagra marketing sites. I got much of that kind of SPAM when I moved to a new residence, and I highly suspect it might have been Jay who instigated that, but that is only my impression and opinion. Just be careful around him.

11/3/2009 11:49:40 AM - Jay had five older sisters: Dulce, Paula, Joyce, Jeanine, and Linda. Paula’s son, Mark, was in the Gulf War. I heard, from Brown family members, that Mark had knocked up a woman he’d had a relationship with, and who bore his child, and that Mark didn’t marry her. Then there was Billy, Jeanine’s son. He impregnated the woman he lived with, Susie, and, to my knowledge, did not marry her, at least not when I lived with Jay. So, it seems here were two more examples of male commitmentphobes, in the Brown family. Then there was Doug, Linda’s son. He seemed to like his drink, and I suspect he was an alcoholic. His face often looked flourid, the way alcoholics’ faces looked, when they drank. Then there was Sarah, Linda’s daughter. Jay told me that Sarah was reprimanded for borrowing, without permission, the video camera of Michael Fowler, physics professor who lived and worked probably still does in Charlottesville, VA. Michael is from Britain and was the husband of Jay’s oldest sister, Dulce.

11/3/2009 11:50:04 AM - The Brown family, in my opinion, was just a MESS, and, as far as I could tell, the only “decent” ones who came out o.k. were Cathy, Jay’s niece, and daughter by Jeanine, and Dulce, Jay’s oldest sister, who he said gave him money to pay off the lawyer who handled his divorce to 2nd wife Lori. Paula and Joyce both seemed nice to me the whole time I was with Jay, but in my opinion, they contributed to “codependency” by either lending or giving large sums of money to Jay, so, in my opinion, they, too, were part of the “dysfunction”. Jeanine, Jay said, let him stay at her home, when Jay was between women, and if so, I think she also contributed to Jay’s “codependency” on her. Jay confided to me that he had asked several of his sisters if his father ever did anything “untoward” to them. Years later, I would wonder if Jay’s father didn’t do something “untoward” to him…like sexual things.

11/3/2009 11:53:32 AM - Jay told me that his sister, Linda, worried that her husband, Les, was dying of cancer. Les also happened to be Linda’s cousin, as well as her husband. Around the time that Jay was worried about Les and Linda, and this was about a year before Jay left me, Jay had composed a song, about how he was some lady’s “handyman”, so I suspect he’d written that song about Melinda Yalom, after she hired him to paint her house. I’m not stupid, and neither should any other women with whom Jay involves himself, be stupid, either. He came off like my “handyman”, too, in the beginning. He assembled an IKEA closet for me, and that was when he was only too happy to have moved in with me, when his daughter, Jolene was around 10 years old. Don’t be fooled like I was. He manipulates his music to seduce women. He even composed .. or tried to .. the bridge of a song that I had composed decades before. When I think back, it seems to me that he was trying to suck from my soul, full of light before I involved myself with him. He even bathed in my bath water, often, after I was done with it, and had me give him monthly haircuts. He''d sit on the floor, nude, towel around his neck, between my knees, while I cut his hair. I think he would''ve stolen my shadow if he had the chance.

11/3/2009 11:59:33 AM - GET OUT NOW, BEFORE HE CONVINCES YOU THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MONOGAMY, BEFORE HE HAS YOU FEELING YOU CAN NEVER TRUST ANOTHER MAN! HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR SOCIETAL CONVENTIONS OR NORMS based on my personal experience with him, and in my opinion gained from same. He seems to prey on single mothers, but others will do if single mothers aren’t available, and if the working professional woman has no children I could not conceive, so she has more time and financial resources to devote to him. GET OUT BEFORE HE SAPS THE LAST REPRODUCTIVE YEARS OF YOUR LIFE, AS I BELIEVE HE DID WITH MINE AND PATTIE’S, HIS FIRST WIFE! Or, failing that, if your reproductive years have passed, get out before he tries to live off you, and you won’t recognize that about him, if he’s up to that!

11/3/2009 12:31:45 PM - Jay also stooped to emotional blackmail goading/baiting, too, I think, accused me, in a smutty email his last to me of being a homophobe. It came after I confronted him by email. I’d written that I hoped he wasn’t boffing little boys in those empty homes he’d been hired to paint. He replied, on Oct. 3, 2000 with, “Where was all this selfrighteous fervor when you were soaking your panties watching lesbian porno movies??? Do I detect a bit of hypocracy here? I wonder who would be interested in that bit of truth?” His email address back then was EBrown1762@aol.com. Yes. Once or twice I watched films with “lesbians” in them, with him. One was not a “porn” film, per se, and one that anyone could rent at Blockbusters, another was a film about derelict artists in New York, that Jay had chosen for us to watch, and had one lesbian theme in it. But he exaggerated, later, as if to make me out to be a lesbian, which I am not one. My male therapist thought that email of Jay’s was the worst he had ever seen. And I think that any woman, once Jay is done with her, will need to see a therapist .. possibly for many years. He was the one always renting/buying porn films, from adult video stores, not me. Those videos were mostly about gay males or female lesbians, in orgies together. Heck, I think he was supporting the porn industry. I think, seriously, that he had “porn creep”, because, toward the end of our relationship, he often would watch those videos before trying to bed me, and I suspect he found it difficult to get aroused, without them, when, in the first years of our relationship, I was sexy enough for him, and he didn’t need them, nor needed any coaxing, to make love, though he almost always never lasted longer than 8 minutes, if that long, and that “little problem” of his was worse, I think, when he first tried bedding me, when I was age 18. He couldn’t even get it up, back then.

11/3/2009 12:32:20 PM - Jay’s ad for casual sex, on that swingers’ site, in 2000, when he ADVERTISED HIMSELF AS BISEXUAL, informed: “Hi,
I’m a SbiM iso someone to share my other side with. I’m a 48 yo, 6’4” 230lbs, good looking I think healthy, discreet, regular guy. N. Va. Area Manassas.
I like 69, j/o” The title for his ad? “BiMale iso a Man” The ad ID number back then was “Jay 1248” Somewhere, in one of Jay’s spiral notebooks, in his handwriting, I found this “poem”: “After a while you learn the difference between holding a hand and chaining a soul [ ] And you learn that love doesn’t mean leaning and company doesn’t mean security [ ] And you begin to learn that kisses aren’t contracts and presents aren’t promises [ ] and you begin to accept your defeats with your head up and your eyes open, with the Grace of an adult and the grief of a child [ ] and you learn to build all your roads on today, since tomorrow’s ground is uncertain for plans [ ] After a while you learn that even sunshine burns if you get too much [ ] so plant your own garden and decorate your own soul instead of waiting for someone to bring you flowers [ ] and you learn that you really can endure…that you really are strong…and you really do have worth” Well…Jay seems to have gleaned, from any convenient philosophy, whatever he needs to prey on women, so he can continue to be a predator and commitment phobe, when, really, I think he used the AA philosophies in reverse: http://www.step12.com/12stepsreverse.html

11/3/2009 12:47:34 PM - Jay also told me about John Leigh, former guitarist in Night Patrol. He said that John’s first wife “left him for a lesbian.” While that may or may not be true, I think Jay is also hoping that his female bedding partners might “go lesbian”, too, just like I think that Jay’s own cousin, Paul Brown, wanted to turn Jay queer, because Jay TOLD ME that Paul had had oral sex with Jay, when Jay was around age 12. Thus, I truly believe that Jay wants to “purge” that kind of experience onto his adult female sexual partners, as if to “relive” the experience. Yes. I truly believe that, now.

11/3/2009 1:09:32 PM - After Jay’s first “Stone Art” shop closed on Canterbury Square, in Manassas, and before he went bankrupt, he moved to a tiny, “postagestamp sized”, oneroom shop, to continue his business. For months on end, between my contract assignments which were in my usual profession and my lifestay, I worked, for no pay, running that little shop of Jay’s, while he drove cabs, to stay afloat. When he ran that bigger shop on Canterbury Square, he received a write up about his shop, and it showed him with his arms folded as if he was some Big Shot in a local Manassas paper. Finally, his smaller shop and business folded, and he went bankrupt. But, while working in that smaller shop of his, on Battle Street, one time, a middle aged man came in. The man didn’t buy anything, but said to me, “He’ll suck you dry like a lemon and discard you.” I wondered, then, if that man wasn’t Lou Walters, Lori’s father and former fatherinlaw to Jay . . wondered if Lou was warning me about him, back then. It also crossed my mind that that middle aged man might have been a gay guy that Jay had sexed. Jay was not able to, when first living with me, or else could not, get a phone in his name, because I think he owned the phone company, on back bills, so the main phone we used, was in my name, not Jay’s, and he used that phone, for a year, I think, for his Stone Art customers and vendors, who still called him. I later had to wean those customers and vendors off using my phone number, when Jay was finally able to get his own business phone for his shop, in the back of our house. YES. He WILL, I think, take advantage of any woman he lives with, as he did to me..just anything for him to “get ahead” in life.

11/3/2009 2:02:00 PM - He might, as I think he did to me, “put it in your face”, though subtly, so you might not notice until years later, how his ex wife or livein girlfriend cooked..what she served him, or liked to eat, to that you’ll “compare” yourself to them, like when he told me that Lori liked to squeeze limes on her smoked oysters, or when Evelyn Vignola served him miso soup, and if you are not secure with your own cooking, those statements of his might have you secondguessing your culinary skills, even though your own might be excellent.

11/3/2009 2:17:34 PM - He also admitted to me, at one point, to having low selfesteem. Well, who wouldn’t have low self esteem if he had repeatedly broken down the confidence and selfesteem of women, only to try building up his own, pitting woman against woman, and leapfrogging, like a gluttonous pighedonistcybarite and sycophant, from one to the other, overlapping them, time after time? He deserves to be ostracized for the rest of his life! The night before he told me it''s over, he said he was going to drop off a repair job .. a stained glass window, that belonged to his 2nd wife, Lori, and drop it off to her. Well, that stained glass window was still in our home, after he''d taken off. He told me, the next day, that he''d had a conversation with Lori, where she reminded him that he has done this with women before, and with her. So, if that happened, there he was.. using her as his condifante, instead of me, to work things out.

11/3/2009 3:54:33 PM - I also think that his sisters, or at least one of them Jeanine comes to mine..possibly Joyce and Paula, too.., know that Jay has mental problems, but any number of them will help him out like Jeanine, like invite you to their house for dinners or holidays, or to beach houses they rent, to have family reunions—and I got invited to those twice or three times—down in the outer banks of North Carolina. So, I think that his sisters will try to help him win over his “next” victim or conquest, and/or at least Jeanine, I think did give him a place to stay, while he’s “between women”, full well knowing what Jay is all about, and that you might get hurt, or that he’ll hurt you eventually, but they will give you no warning about that..no warning at all. These are my opinions. In fact, weeks before Jay left me, he told me that he was going for a weekend away, with his mother and sister, to a bed and breakfast..somewhere in Pennsylvania, I think, and he also told me that a couple of gay guys owned the place. I wasn’t invited, of course. On another night, Jay had told me that he was going to a men''s only night out. I don''t remember if he actually went there, but yes...You can guess what that men''s only night out might have been about.

11/3/2009 3:55:21 PM - sorry..one typo..Sentence above should have been: Jeanine comes to mind

11/3/2009 4:09:12 PM - Oh, and that “Mambo” or “Mambo” or “Samba” or “Rhumba” song he sings? That he claims to have written, with the lyrics, “she was stompin’ on my heart, tearing me apart.. and that girl she did the [mamba, samba, rhumba..or whatever words he uses]”..I doubt he really wrote that, as he claims, because one time, I suggested he play it at a party, and he got mad at me for bringing it up, and paid no heed to me, didn’t play the song. Melinda knows that Carey Creed, a wonderful singer, songwriter and musician, who was a friend to Ed Rejuney with whom Melinda had lived, before involving herself with Jay Carey was once married to Jay’s former brotherinlaw, the brother of Jay’s first wife, Pattie tried to warn her about Jay. Pattie told me that Carey tried to warn Ed and/or Melinda, about Jay, but that Melinda refused to listen. Perhaps she will listen now. Carey, long ago, once dated my best friend’s husband. I think Carey also knows I wouldn’t lie about these things.

11/3/2009 4:44:44 PM - I think that, had Melinda first read about a man, anywhere on the Net, described as I have described Jay Brown, and had she been free to date and looked through what women have posted about OTHER men on the internet, first, before dating any man..that…had she seen things like I have written about Jay, but about any other man, she would have taken caution not to date him. But she chose to ignore what I said, and she even according to Jay said that I had “badmouthed” him. Well, there is JUST TOO MUCH hardcore EVIDENCE to refute the things I have said, and I think she stuck her head in the sand, like an ostrich, and put on her “rosecolored” glasses, so she would not have to see what a fraud he is/was, and/or not admit what a betraying bitch she was to me, so she could justify stepping out on Ed, with a man who lived with a woman who she had pretended to befriend for almost two years.

11/3/2009 5:27:51 PM - Long ago, when I sang folk and country tunes with my guitar, I sang a song by Conway Twitty, “The Image of Me”.. when I sang it then, I sang it with some gender changes to the lyric, such as “he made her the image of he”..or something like that. The song’s about a man who mistreated his woman so much because he was an alchie and wanted HER to become an alchie, so destroyed her pride. Jay, to me, is much like that man in the song. I’m not an alcoholic, never was, but Jay IS an alcoholic though “recovered”. I admit to only ONE TIME getting “drunk” at one of his gigs, in my first or second year with him. But that, in part, was because I had rum and coke that night, and forgot how much it affected my head and my stomach!, and got so sick on it, that I had to rest in the bathroom. I made sure, for many years, after that, with Jay, that he would NEVER see me drunk, nor would I drink that way, and I kept my promise to myself. However, weekly, for about three or four weeks, before Jay left me, when he hadn’t done this before, he bought, with our groceries, one large bottle of Merlot, for me, which would typically, when stretched out, last me the whole week. Sometimes I think he, back then, anticipated leaving me, so he bought me those bottles of wine so he could easily justify, and say to others, falsely, that he left me for one among several reasons, possibly even said, “She drank. I didn’t.” But he would be lying, because I only drank with dinner, and usually only one glass of wine a night, at home, if so, possibly two, but no more, when I attended social gatherings, because I know my limit. I also never drank alone, nor ever hid bottles from him, and only drank wine with dinner, when he was in my presence. I think you get my meaning. I think that Jay TRIED to “turn me into the image of him”, but failed. I will NEVER let an alcoholic “recovered” or otherwise, again, abuse me the way he did…NOT EVER.

11/3/2009 6:12:29 PM - I also think that Carey Creed would not lie about Jay’s character, if she knew or said anything negative about him. Remember, Carey was once “related”, albeit through marriage, at one time, to Carey, and Carey probably heard some tales of woe from Pattie, Jay’s first wife, back then, about Jay. Carey was once married to Pattie’s brother, a wonderful musician, Pattie told me. Thus, It think that when Jay noticed that Carey was attending Ed Rejuney’s and Melinda Yalom’s parties, he probably thought to get me and Carey “out of the picture”, possibly so others would not know what Carey knew about him. Also, Carey holds no grudge, that I know of, against my best friend’s husband, who once dated her. Last I knew, Carey was still a friend to both my best friend and my best friend’s husband. The world is just too small, and Jay should have known that word about him would get around, sooner or later.

11/3/2009 6:46:56 PM - It took me a long, long time, to forgive myself for getting involved with Jay, and for being or feeling “stupid” for being duped by him. But I did forgive myself, when I realized that at least four or six women had been duped the same way, including Evelyn, Pattie, Lori, Melinda, Debby, and Janet possibly, and those were otherwise “normal” women, like myself, most of them except for, I think Melinda were probably kindhearted women, wanting to help him improve his lot in life, like me. Now, though, I only want to warn other women about him, and I think you will find that my story, across time years is consistent, in its explanation, across many profiles I’ve posted about him, that my story lines about him do not “shift”, and stay on the points, do not shift in logic or about proof that I have provided or still have.

11/3/2009 7:09:32 PM - May my dead mother’s and father’s souls haunt Jay Brown, for the rest of his life. Jay should have died instead of them. If there is one person on this earth, who has only one day left to live on this earth, and knows it, and who hates sexually confused creeps..men who abuse women sexually, I hope he or she shoots Jay dead. Would it have been legal to do so, I would have done so myself.

11/3/2009 7:13:20 PM - I suspect, that at some point, Lou Walters, the father of Jay''s 2nd wife, felt like killing Jay, too, and I wouldn''t blame him if he felt that way.

11/3/2009 8:14:42 PM - When Jay performed with me, first as a bass player, later as a guitarist, in my various jazz bands that I formed with him, at one venue, Okra’s Louisiana Bistro, in Manassas, Virginia, in the late 1990s, Jay had created a poster for our band for that night was it one øf his “guilt presents” to me? I had to wonder about that, later on Well, one night, at that venue, there was a handsome guy, who seemed years younger than Jay, with a conservative haircut, wearing a black shirt, that appeared in the audience, who seemed to be ogling Jay the entire night, during Jay’s performance. I had a brief conversation with the guy, after our sets were done. He told me that he was in some kind of home improvements business..another blue collar worker, like Jay. I suspected, much later, that he was a gay guy who Jay knew, and who could have been one of Jay’s gay lovers.

11/3/2009 9:12:32 PM - Jay, on various occasions, dined on the “fat” of my relatives, including on my sisterinlaw’s and my brother’s her husband’s graces and invitations, to dine at their residence, while living with me. He attended my father’s 80’th birthday party in Rehoboth, Delaware. It was a family reunion…my family’s reunion my three brothers came, from three states in the Union, for this event, so was Jay’s daughter, Jolene, invited, so I didn’t leave her out. I even have pictures of that event. In one photo, I see Jay “schmoozing” up to my oldest brother. It appears that he is looking at the photographer who snapped the photo, a woman who my father mentored, who became a dental hygienist, and who, decades earlier, when a young woman, because her own father abandoned her, she, out of desperation, became, for a short while, a hooker and junkie, and was rehabilitated, and my father mentored her back into a decent life. I made the mistake of telling Jay about her, so I think he looked at her “lustfully”, when recalling what I had told him about her. On the same day that Jay attended a party thrown by Bob Williams a jazz guitarist who jammed with us, at Melinda’s house, when we called Melinda’s venue “The Knotty Pine Club”, where Melinda and Ed did not attend on that occasion, only hours before, Jay had attended one of my family events, where he was fed well. My own father, one year, for a Valentine’s present to us, paid for us to stay at Koolfont resort, in West Virginia, where Jay ate with me on my father’s money, and enjoyed the hot tub, in our Aframe, that my father had paid for, that night. To me, Jay is nothing but a GIGOLO, who lives off women and their families!

11/3/2009 9:47:37 PM - Jay told me that to get out of the Vietnam War draft, he “faked being gay” to the federal government recruiter. I repeated what Jay had told me, to Patrick, my elderly, nextdoor neighbor, a former Marine, in Manassas, VA, who was my friend and my support system, after Jay had left me. He, Patrick, a man who, in his life, raised Catholic, but abandoned the faith after discovering abuse in the Diocese, and who later became a Seventh Day Adventist, told me, that Jay “must not have had to fake being gay too much” for them to have let him out of the draft, back then. Patrick was the one who gave me the Whitman Walker Clinic flier, on AIDS/HIV statistics, consequent to my conversation with Patrick. If not for Patrick, in Manassas, I think I would have gone crazy. Patrick Smith was another father figure to me, for years. I loved him like I loved my own father. He has probably passed from this world by now, but, if not for him, the brave Marine, I would have lost faith in men entirely. After Jay left me, once a month, like he would invite a daughter, Patrick would invite me to his local veteran’s establishment, while I waited for my new boyfriend to come home from an overseas excursion of two or more months. He suspected that Jay had depleted my self esteem, and I would dress in my best clothes, to have that fatherlike date with him. He would tell me, “You look like a million dollars.” He also read me passages, from Seventh Day Adventist texts, and told me, that, according to the scriptures, I was right to try to find another husband, and deserved to have one. It was Patrick who said, about Jay, He knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing.

11/4/2009 7:20:12 AM - Jay also, in his shop, on our back porch, when I lived with him, regularly listened to the shameshameonyou Holier Than Thou…Better Than You Dr. Laura radio program. You know . . Laura Schlessinger . . the religious Republican, I think hypocrite, who, in her past, was supposedly caught posing in the nude. I guess so he could convince himself that he was living “in sin” with me. He might as well have been listening to Rush Limbaugh. Makes me want to vomit whenever I think of it. Maybe he liked listening to hypocrites like himself, to shore up his own conflicted beliefs. The hypocrite who began an affair with a democrat. She had invited us over for a social event, to celebrate Bill Clinton’s inauguration.

11/4/2009 7:33:56 AM - He also kept, by his lamp, in his workshop, an old baby photo and I do mean infant by the base of his lamp. He said it was of Pattie, who was his first wife. When I spoke to Pattie and told her about the photo, she told me she had never given him that photo.About Pattie...when I asked him why their marriage broke up, he acted as though she had broken his heart and cheated on him but it was the other way around. She said when she got pregnant with his baby he wasn''t even interested in helping pick out baby names. She said that two of her gay male friends told her they''d had sex with Jay. She said that one night he took off with some gay motorcycle guys and didn''t come home that night. She said he sold drugs back then, too. She said that he ADMITTED sleeping with their neighbor''s wife, and that that happened when Pattie was married to him. So..his stories DO NOT ADD UP, and he has flipped the script more than a few times in his life, so to me, is a pathological liar and sociopath.

11/4/2009 7:43:55 AM - Pattie also told me that the never intended for Jay to keep her antique, heirloom bed . . the one that Jay said ended up in Jolene’s bedroom, at his 2nd wife’s home. So I suspect that he “overlapped” Lori and Pattie, too, because he told me he’d lived on Cottage Lane, in Fairfax County, with Lori at one time, and Pattie told me that he’d lived with HER Pattie, on Cottage Lane, at one time, too. And, it would seem that Jay is the SAME THIEF that got himself into Edgemeade he told me it was for stealing cars, because he ADMITTED to me to having stolen the Cottage Lane Street Sign which, I believe, was Fairfax County property, and he told me that it ended up at Lori’s house, at one point. The reason I’ve posted this much additionally about him is because my profiles about him, that were up on datingpschos.com, for a year, possibly more, came down, against my wishes, so I had to repost the information somewhere else.

11/4/2009 8:13:57 AM - Must mention a typo above..was writing too fast, I guess. the typo appears in comment of 10/28/2009 11:45:23 AM. The name of his band buddy was Rick Burnette married, or was, last I knew, to MariAne Fowler. Rick was divorced at least once, before married to MariAne. His first wife''s name was Kitty, I think. It would be easy for anyone, though, to slip up and make the mistake of saying Rick Fowler instead of Rick Burnette, because, to me, in retrospect, Rick seemed like a Mr. Fowler, married to Ms. Fowler, and I thought that MariAne was the major breadwinner in that marriage. I thought the same about the marriage of Julia and John Leigh ..the other guitarist in Jay''s former band, Night Patrol. I think Jay saw that his band buddies had landed sugar mammas, so wanted one of his own. As stated before, when the woman''s money runs out or runs low, Jay will be gone, after he''s used her for his selfish purposes. That is my assessment about what went down, and with good reason, and many years of experience living with him. He even admitted to me, when or after divorcing Lori, that she told him that he had ruined her credit line.

11/4/2009 8:37:26 AM - I’ll quote verbatim, again, below, the email I received from Julia Leigh, wife of John Leigh, on 8/8/00. Her email address then was julia.leigh@blackbox.com.She was trying to comfort me after Jay left me: “I am so very sorry to learn this. John found out only this week that you and Jay were separated. I asked several times why? Why? Because I didn’t get any sense of problems when we last saw you in Strasburg. John didn’t know why y’all were separated, or maybe didn’t want to tell me. Jay did have one girlfriend before you, and old neighbor and friend of MariAne’s. I remember she told MariAne that Jay had some “performance” problems. At the time, I thought it might be sour grapes because I sensed Jay wasn’t all that keen on her. But it could have been part of the same proclivities you’ve discovered. And I know MariAnd did not think her friend was lying at the time. But, then, we just minded our own business. I am not going to share this news with John, at least not in the near future. John has known and cared for Jay a very long time, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Jay was confiding in him. Since what I know doesn’t jeopardize anyone else’s health at present, I think I’ll keep it to myself. I would like to share it with MariAne, but I won’t. I respect your confidence, and I am truly sorry because this is a horrible experience and I know you love Jay and that he loves you.”

11/4/2009 8:38:06 AM - Another email from Julia, from 8/9/00, to me, indicated: “I hardly knew Lori. Saw her twice at most before John and I married in 1986, so she never would have confided in me. But I do remember never fully understanding why the marriage broke up. Jay and his was the only side I heard told John Lori’s obsession with cats got to him. But that had always been so. Also, Jay’s business was failing after he and Lori borrowed money to start it. Previously Jay worked in a rock shop owned predominantly by Lori’s father, I believe. But Lori totally supported Jay’s startup business, and I believe Lori’s father was most supportive of Jay. After all, he was surely glad to have his daughter married to a decent guy—Lori’s first son had no father—some biker dude, I heard. Moreover, Jay and Lori had recently built the first and only house they ever owned on 5 lovely acres. Again, I remember thinking why would they break up just as their lives were falling into place? I know Lori’s dad would have helped because he was very invested in the welfare of his daughter and two grandchildren. John liked Lori, was present at their wedding and tried very hard to talk Jay out of leaving Lori. But Jay’s mind must have been made up. I didn’t know Jay or Lori well enough to speculate on anything beyond the surface. No, [****], the only hint I ever got of anything weird with Jay was from that friend of MariAne’s who mentioned Jay had some “problems” but was utterly vague. I suppose she was smart enough not to share anything speculative with people who’d known Jay since his troubled adolescence. I’d have done the same in her place. [ ] And I am quite sure Jay will try to explain why you and he broke up as he did with Lori the cats, for God’s sake. As far as your unemployment, I never would have bought that completely. Lack of money can certainly strain a relationship. But you have worked and, to my knowledge, you never refused to work and you will work again. No, y’all were together too many years and people our age don’t break up because times are a little tough. That’s usually when you hang together hardest—if you’re grown up and committed. I know how devastated you feel, believe me. But I think you are wise to realize that Jay probably can’t easily change this about himself—even if he wanted to. I am so sorry for all of this John is sad, too. You will heal, though, and be the stronger for it.[ ]” Jay talked about John Leigh behind his back . . said that John’s guitar playing was “stiff” ... that John’s guitar technique was like a guy carrying two buckets of water. He also told me that Julia had been clinically depressed and he suspected it had something to do with the way John treated her. Gee. Now why would Jay speak that way about a friend of many years?

11/4/2009 8:53:25 AM - Though this is speculation, I predict that Jay will cheat on Melinda Yalom—or the next woman after her, if there is a next woman—while she is at work. His commitmentphobia always had me on edge, even on my best days at work. Don’t let him diminish you, too. I suspect that he will, eventually, with any women or woman that came into his life, after me, little by little, slowly, over time, erode her selfconfidence, as he did to me. I mean..for God''s sake..he was living, at age 40something, WITH HIS OLD MOTHER, while separated from Lori. I heard it from Jay''s mouth, that he was separated more than once from Lori, and that EACH TIME, he went ran, I interpret to his mommy''s home. To her tit, apparently, because he figuratively speaking, of course couldn''t wean himself from it!

11/4/2009 9:35:16 AM - I think that Jay was not only jealous of my musical talent, but was also jealous of my talent at painting, drawing. I drew him nude several times, and well, because I am an artists, so wanted to draw the man I loved. He showed me one drawing that he said HE did, a pencil or charcoal etching, of a brunette, with long hair, reclining, with her back toward the viewer. He told me that he’d drawn it “a long time ago” and that he probably “foreshadowed” his relationship with me, because he thought it was ME that he drew “back then”. So, if he shows that drawing to YOU, and says the same thing, KNOW that he’s pulling the same “line” on YOU. I also knew about sculpting and, one time, he cast, with my gold, a tiny charm I''d sculpted perfectly, of the Marcos Island cat. Yes. I think he was jealous of me, and of many artistic facets of me that he wished were his own.

11/4/2009 9:56:45 AM - I knew and sang, for years, professionally, hundreds of songs, folk, country, pop and jazz, that I fingerpicked on guitar to, beautifully, and had learned them way before my relationship with Jay. He would “glom” on to them thus my soul, either built harmonies to my voice and/or accompanied me on guitar to them, and I didn’t have to “prod” him, either. He just saw me taking interest in a new tune I’d heard and learned, then he became “a quick study”. I’d learned those tunes during my downtime, while driving to and back from work, stuck in traffic. Just as soon as I’d learn a new tune, Jay would be right there, learning the parts to harmonize with me, or to play second guitar to my own, like a BIG FAT SIPHON ..like those parasites that one author described in his book about Peruvian mysticism, about parasites that drain the energy from people, where one could see the blueish or greenish “aura” leaving the person whose soul was being sucked out, and entering into the sucker’s body. It bears repeating . . he MIRRORED my likes and dislikes, to PREY on me and my kindness. Men who MIRROR women’s likes and dislikes, to FEIGN love, are LOVE FRAUDS, when they have no intention of following through on commitment, after years of living with the woman, and especially with Jay’s HISTORY of having cheated on EVERY WOMAN that he lived with which made four, including me, before Melinda Yalom.

11/4/2009 10:16:57 AM - Jay will lie, obfuscate, manipulate, displace guilt or blame, and will have you feeling like you are the one with the issues, not him. He has done this to numerous women. He is TOXIC.

11/4/2009 10:37:19 AM - He even said to me, after moving in with me, “when I get seriously involved with a woman, I wrap my whole life around hers”.. yeah .. I’ll say! Like a lethal AnacondaBlack Mamba mutant! I should have seen the BIG PINK FLAGS back then.

11/4/2009 10:48:57 AM - I suggest hiring a P.I. before you believe his lies. I wish I had done so.

11/4/2009 11:02:13 AM - If I haven''t told you this already..he wanted me to put butt plugs up his anal cavity and wanted fingers up there, too. This fact, along with what his first wife, Pattie, told me, about him asking her to wear a strapon penis, and asking her to reverse sexual roles with him, so that he''d be the female and she the male, confirms my belief that Jay is not mentally sound, and is sexually confused as to his sexual identity. I think he tried to have women reenact with him, his childhood sexual abuse he told me that his gay male cousin, had had oral sex with him, when he was age 12, so that they end up being the vic or the perp. One of his excuses it certainly wasn''t reason as normal people know reason for leaving me, was that he thought my sex sex acts? love? was too powerful, so that was something I think he SHOULD have said to his gay cousin, Paul, to tell him: No one should OVERPOWER any child sexually, before he/she is ready!, and You had NO RIGHT to take my virginity, at age 12! or You are NO BETTER THAN A PEDOPHILE, for what you did to me!..but no..Jay, to me, is TOO MUCH OF A COWARD to CONFRONT his own cousin. Hence, the Be careful email content, he received from Paul, around that time I captured his ads on the swingers'' site, for bisexual sex. And, around the time I performed at Okra''s Louisiana Bistro, in Manassas, I also saw another email that Jay had gotten, from one person or another, in a couple, that I did not recognize their names, but the person who sent him the email wrote that he and his wife were coming into town and could meet up with him, so, after things were all done and over between Jay and I, I reflected back on that email, too, and wondered if that couple wasn''t a swinger couple who Jay had met up with, for sex.

11/5/2009 11:29:00 AM - Also see various photos of him, at different stages of his life, and profiles to go with them, on the Don''t Date This Guy site. I posted several profiles, on several sites because: 1 I suspect he has Multiple Personality Disorder, and 2 Gay or bi guys he may have sexed might recognize him from his younger days, but may not recognize him in his middle age, or vice versa, and I REALLY hope they post comments, to indicate if/when they had sex with him, and as I REALLY think he needs coming out from behind the closet, so that he doesn''t hurt any more women.

11/5/2009 3:23:18 PM - Want to know more, or see what he looked like at different phases of his life? Check out the recent profiles I posted about him, this week, on Don''t Date This Guy.com Women seriously need warning, I think, to avoid him.

11/5/2009 4:09:31 PM - On Don''''t Date This Guy.com, plug in the name, Jay Brown. There''s a whole gallery up there, about him. As I may or may not have already written, I doubt that his family members will let on, to any of his girlfriends, if they think he is mentally ill, but I suspect that a few of them knew, and hid what they knew.

11/5/2009 4:11:50 PM - just testing here, to see if the URL for that gallery, mentioned in the last comment, displays up here..it is: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=results

11/5/2009 7:30:40 PM - If I pick up a guitar again anytime soon, I think I’m going to regenderfy the lyrics to the Tom T. Hall tune Leo Kottke sang it, Pamela Brown. It would go something like this… I’m the gal who didn’t marry pervert Everett Brown I was a wellintentioned, educated good girl in my town Wonder where I’d be today if he had loved me, too I’d probably be driving kids to school Chorus: I guess I owe it all to Everett Brown All of my down times, all his runnin’ around One of these days he might be in your town Be careful not to fall for Everett Brown Hid his downlow ways from me Hid them by the score He sexed the ladies and the men But few knew him, for sure I guess Melinda Yalom was the best part of my luck She dug him cause she thought that he could **ck Chorus: I guess I owe it all, etc. I don''t have to tell you just how perverted he was Everything it took to get another man sexed up No woman could be happy when she finally comes to see Especially what he hid from you and me

11/5/2009 8:08:35 PM - Be careful women..I think that he has used women as shields to his homosexual activities that he cannot or will not, apparently, face up to. All the dirt on him should come out. Even puss rises to the surfaces of boils, and must be lanced.

11/6/2009 10:29:36 AM - He has cheated countless times before living with Melinda, on FOUR women..each in a different relationship with him, across three decades, while living with the woman and when the woman finds out she becomes the tramp, the “taker”, and/or he gaslights herhas her thinking she''s the crazy one, not him, suggests SHE needs therapy, when it''s HIM that''s the pathological liar whacko, sociopath and con artist, in my opinion.

11/6/2009 11:54:30 AM - Jay is known to carry on multiple sexual relationships with his sexual partners be they man, woman, both, or one of each simultaneously, while lying to everyone about his level of commitment and without divulging his sexual gender/preference confusion out loud. Jay has done this, I believe, both while dating women and while married to women. When things start to become questionable, he is expert at making the woman question herself, rather than fess up to the full truth. If Melinda Yalom wants/wanted a “chocolate finger” or fingernails, I guess that’s her choice/thing it wasn’t mine..never was.

11/6/2009 2:06:23 PM - I suggest reading the profile on Brad Shaffer, posted on dontdatehimgirl.com, posted recently. Areas for him are Indianapolis, IN Cincinnati, OH Chicago, IL Louisville, KY and Detroit, MI. Here…I’ll quote some words from that profile for you, because I think he’s a lot like the guy Jay, in many ways: “He mainly sleeps with married women because he is a committment phobe. Everywhere he lives he is taking away women''s self esteem and positive self worth. Also watch out for the yucky stuff that he is carrying down there. He makes other women mad at each other instead of him. He is full of drama and loves to cause it. He lives with women, uses them to take care of him in all ways possible, while he is sleeping with other women on the side. He is definitely the definition of the biggest loser. He acts like he is all that, but is rotten to the core. I think his passion on this earth is to hurt all women. He is also on many psychotic medications.”

11/6/2009 2:38:08 PM - Hi. I read the profile above, and the comments under it. Another profile I would suggest reading, from DDHG, is about Edward Spratte, of St. Louis, Missouri, because in your profile, you describe how Jay “mirrors” the woman’s likes/dislikes, as one of his seduction techniques. Here I go..I’ll quote a short paragraph from that profile on Spratte: “If you are Catholic, he will say he is Catholic. If you are a nudist, he will say he is a nudist. He is, in general, a guy who will move really fast and promise to marry you within a short period of time. He has lived in many states and moves from one woman to another usually using the internet dating sites/game chat rooms” and, also about Spratte I quote again: “Not only does he have a troubled past with his own family, but also his past exwives. He will tell you not to listen to this, but, give it time more than the few weeks where he pushes you to make him the center of your world, and it will all become too clear. Definitely a mentally ill person who is manipulative and may not be aware of it.” Good luck! He didn''t deserve you!

11/6/2009 2:56:47 PM - From the profiler about Jay Brown . . thank you for your positive comment, last commenter. I am not a slut and I took my time before letting Jay bed me, before beginning my relationship with him. In fact it was between 2 or 3 months when I finally did consent to get “intimate” with him, when once weekly, I would visit his shop in Manassas, at night, to play music with him .. both of us on guitars and vocals .. was totally and innocently platonic .. , and even slept on his mother’s couch, for some nights, when he was living with his mother, before deciding YES..THAT WAS MY CHOICE, and a CHOICE I should NOT have been made ashamed of! to get “intimate” with him. I wanted things to go slowly with him, as I had already been hurt by an abusive husband in the military, who learned to yell, one inch from my face, probably from drill exercises, as the officer he would eventually become. It was horrible . . my first and only “legal” marriage. I was in school, at mid age, trying to earn my college degree, and it was difficult to achieve, under stress and under the circumstances. Plus, my former husband, despite the white officer’s uniform, did not bathe enough, and I found skid marks on his underwear, not to mention he had another “hairtrigger” problem, but in bed, so it was not right for Jay to pile hurt upon hurt, on me, and I think he took full advantage of a vulnerable woman..the way I think he ALSO took advantage of the women before me, who I think were also vulnerable, meaning, his second wife, Lori, who’d had a child out of wedlock, and the father of her son, I think..or so it is rumored, was a biker type Melinda Yalom TOLD me that her I think it was her first husband, had cheated on HER. So I truly believe that Jay seizes on the OPPORTUNITY to prey on vulnerable women, to shore up his weak self esteem, as if to sap his women of any of THEIR selfesteem, to build himself up. Well, I’ve heard it that cheaters never profit, and I am sure Karma will turn around, to get him.

11/6/2009 3:16:41 PM - He began courting or “wooing” me with songs . . said he had a recording from when I was 18 years old, of me performing an a capella tune voice/traditional that he liked, and invited me to his gig at a VFW function. Then he began playing guitar to my guitar/voice, on songs like Mary Black’s No Frontiers, and schmoozing me with songs like From A Distance, to have it seem like he was the “spiritual guy”. When he started hedging, after I had moved to another city to be with him, after his encouragement, I shoved all of his things..amplifier, etc., that he''d left at my apartment..to the front of it, and told him to get out of my life if he wasn''t going to be serious. He then appeared to be real, as if apologetic, and it was around Valentine''s Day. He and his daughter brought me breakfast in bed, and he presented a basket, with two crystal goblets, a bottle of champagne, and roses, with a Valentine: Hope this Valentine is good enough for you. Love, Jay .. even his daughter gave us a handmade Valentine: To Daddy and [****] I''m telling you. This guy is a FRAUD. AVOID HIM. Oh please, please don’t believe him. He is NOT mentally sound!

11/6/2009 4:58:29 PM - If that URL for the gallery I profiled on Jay, on the Don''t Date This Guy website, doesn''t bring up the specific list on him, go to the main home page URL: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/index.php?mod=contents&sec=home Then click into the advanced name search mode, plug in JAY BROWN and all the profiles/photos on him should pop up.

11/7/2009 10:00:14 AM - Jay can and will lie without blinking. He’s a degenerate whose nature is the most devious kind. He is/was also a sex addict and a porn addict at least while living with me, he was. His lies will ensnare women into any situations to his advantage, financially and sexually. His mother and sisters bailed him out numerous times when he cheated on women in his past, whether by giving/loaning him cash, or by letting him stay at their places until things blow over with the women he’s deceived. He’s lied to most, if not all, the women with whom he’s lived, and blamed at least three of those women..each of them..for his behavior. He’ll probably hide any of his paperwork from his next woman, and possibly even hide them with his family members who knows?, like bank account info, and the document that he and his sister, Paula P., signed that stated he would still have to repay that $17,000 she loaned him, even if he went bankrupt, which he did go bankrupt when he lived with me. He doesn’t learn from his mistakes and doesn’t take responsibility for his actions, especially for the women he has hurt, and he has hurt many. Cons and frauds like Jay only get better and craftier at hiding things. THEY DON’T STOP. His cheating got worse after he got a cell phone. Very possibly, if not probably, his excuses might include having to run errands, then he’ll probably be calling the next woman..OR BISEXUAL OR GAY MAN, or several ..either man OR WOMAN, from his cell phone. And he will probably turn off the ringer or turn it all the way down or the voice mail answering machine feature to the lowest volume possible, when he’s around the woman who’s put the latest roof over his head. Pay attention to when the light on his cell phone blinks, and at those times, if he refuses to answer the call. If he does this, he’s probably up to his tricks. Meanwhile, the woman he lives with will be waiting for him to get home, if he’s gone on those “errands” he said he was on. He also might tell his flings man or woman, men or women to please not drop by when his main woman’s car is parked outside. And, very possibly, if not probably, he’ll be bedding other people while his main woman is at work, or has a weekend away from him. He might tell his main woman that he needs going out for a drive to clear his head. A couple of months before he left me, I overheard him, on the back porch, in his repair shop, in low tones, barely audible, but I heard him. He said to someone on the phone, “I’ll try to get away but doubt if I can right now.” Typically, when he was talking to a home improvements customer on the phone, he wouldn’t bother to lower his voice, and spoke naturally, so if his voice volume lowers, as if he’s speaking in secret, know that he is probably speaking to one of his flings or the next woman with whom he’s begun the affair, and will be charming her, in the beginning, the same way he charmed me. His cheating pattern is CHRONIC and HABITUAL, wellestablished across more than THREE DECADES. He’ll lie with impunity, with halftruths, and by omission. He tried to flip the script on me, in the end, projected that I was “impugning” his “manhood”. HE impugned HIS OWN manhood! Again..see my recent profiles on him, on the Don''t Date This Guy website. Use the Advanced Search engine, plug in the name, JAY BROWN..and click!

11/7/2009 10:05:58 AM - He constantly bitched to me while divorcing 2nd wife, Lori, and emotionally DRAINED me through that divorce, while using me as a crutch. He even said that she''d purposely quit her job and that her lawyer had advised her to, so as to hike up his child support payments.

11/7/2009 10:10:50 AM - While either contemplating beginning his affair with Melinda Yalom, or after having initiated it, he asked me, Don''t you think she complains too much? At another time, he asked me if I thought she was attractive. It was as if he was sneakily asking me for my permission to bed her. Months before he left, he told me about a conversation with Melinda, and about some former boyfriend of hers, who couldn''t get rid of or get out of his house the woman that the former boyfriend had been living with for years. He was ALTERCASTING then, I think .. talking about HIMSELF, and what HE wanted to do! He''ll do it to you, too! PROMISE!

11/7/2009 12:02:38 PM - Jay’s “ruse” is to appear to be the “good father” and a shy, good, peaceful guy and someone who has his goals in line. He’ll “morph” into anything anyone he thinks the woman wants him to be, to get into her bed, and possibly her “pocket book”…his mother and sister gladhanded him. His mama bought him many of his nice clothes, and so did I. As if a MIDDLEAGED MAN couldn’t provide for himself in that department! He saved himself $21,000, if not more, storing, for 8.5 years, his rock shop inventory in our twocar garage, when only a few things of mine were stored in there, and his stuff probably took up 99 percent of the space. Now I KNOW what it costs .. how expensive it is .. to rent storage space, because one of two of my first parttime jobs, after he left me, was in property management..renting units to people, in Dumfries, VA. When he left me, he broke the lease that BOTH of us had signed. When we had moved into that place in Manassas, yes, he did pay for half the first month’s rent, but I PAID FOR THE ENTIRE EXTRA MONTH’S RENT, for the security deposit, which was $725 at that time, and when he left me, he did not pay to me $362.50, which I think he SHOULD have done, so I think he still owes me money. I say he’s a FRAUD and a GIGOLO, who social climbs to take advantage of women, meeting his NEXT WOMAN from his previous woman’s friendship circles..women he WOULD NOT HAVE MET, if not for his previous woman and/or some wife of his band buddy.

11/7/2009 2:01:53 PM - Hi. Found the profile up here, about Jay, after I saw a comment under a DDHG profile about another guy on DDHG, so decided to check out the profile you posted up here. I noticed that some others who’d posted profiles on DDHG also noticed your comments, came on here, and mentioned a couple of other profiles posted on DDHG, about men who seemed to have similar M.O.’s to Jay’s apparent M.O. Ask yourself if Jay seemed like Bjorn Nybom, profiled on DDHG, especially these parts: “What’s worse is that the girl he moved me out for knew about me and it didn’t bother her to be a home wrecker” and “He did it to his ex wife [and] he did it to me” and “[He will] deny everything thru his teeth, and TRY to make things so he comes out squeaky clean!” and “HE''LL USE YOU FOR ALL YOUR MONEY OR YOUR FAMILY’S MONEY AND WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO SUPPLY THE CASH HE''LL FIND OTHER WHO WILL. AND TELL YOU THAT YOU DON’T MAKE HIM FEEL LIKE A MAN! HE''S THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF ‘ONLY GUILTY PEOPLE GET DEFENSIVE’” And, no, I didn’t profile Nybom….just thought I’d point out that one to you, too. I am sorry he put you through that. My ex did the same to me.

11/7/2009 4:03:35 PM - Precisely. It’s as if he preyed on women, pretending to be an empath to them.

11/7/2009 11:46:16 PM - See DDHG profile on Darryl Averett Harlem & TriState Area: “IS LIKE A CHAMELEON. HE WILL BECOME WHOEVER HE THINKS HE NEEDS TO BE TO IMPRESS YOU OR MOVE IN TO YOUR LIFE. HE HAS NO COMPASSION FOR ANY WOMAN OR HE COULD HAVE ISSUES WITH HIS SEXUALITY. HE IS A USER! HE DOES NOT USE CONDOMS! BEWARE!”

11/8/2009 10:57:10 AM - Yes, I noticed that many profiles up here and elsewhere seem to share the same M.O. I think Jay had. All I'm saying is..don't mess with him. He had, in my opinion, too many issues..psychological, financial, sexual and mental. He was not healthy in all senses of the word..in my opinion. And I would believe his first wife, too. Social workers don't become social workers without good reasons, and sometimes the good reasons happen to be personal experience with a sociopath or two.

11/8/2009 2:42:18 PM - My other main point, and to sum it all up, is this: Jay, for years, JUSTIFIED his cheating on at least THREE women with whom he has lived, and it is a VERY UGLY SICK PATTERN. So, apparently, he toys with the emotions of women, and this, I think, is a SERIAL habit of his. ABOUT LORI, HIS 2ND WIFE, HIS “EXCUSES” WERE: “She turned me into a cash machine.” “It was the cat’s for God’s sake.” [he obviously .. an I witnessed this .. loved his black, shorthaired cat, PJ, but left it behind, with Lori] “She overreacted and was codependant” [I think it was the other way around] “She bought too much inventory [or the wrong inventory..his excuse for why their shop together folded]” “She wanted tanzanites” “Lori denied me marital sex” [Well, if she did, I think she had MORE than one good reason to .. she probably suspected or knew about what I think is Jay’s sexual and porn addiction] ABOUT PATTIE, JAY’S FIRST WIFE: He said that she cheated on HIM, when Pattie told me it was THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ABOUT ME, HE: Told me I was a child when it was HIM who, I think, who has/had a stunted emotional development Told me he wanted a woman who would “roll up” her sleeves [I did that..even worked in his shop and for his jewelry shows, for no pay. He even admitted to me that his second fatherinlaw, Lou Walters, had told him that HE, Jay, was the “underemployed” one] Told me that I should see a shrink [he had seen a psychologist or therapist—and I KNOW the guy’s name—before dating me, and in our first year together HE was the one with the psychological problems, but he FLIPPED THE SCRIPT on me, to gaslight me, and make it seem as though I was the “crazy” one. Isn’t this a “theme” with most con artists and frauds, who are profiled on this site and on other sites? That they call their former girlfriends and wives “crazy”?

11/8/2009 3:04:22 PM - Last, but not least..this bears repeating again...While at the dinner table with me, one time, he got angry and threw a set of keys yes..a FLYING PROJECTILE WEAPON! toward my face/head area, and just missed by inches. He had to spackle the wall where the keys had left the hole, and paint over it later, to hide the hole the landlord gave him a discount off the rent, that month, for the paint job. Another time, he raised his fist to my face, as if to hit me. I told him if one finger of his landed on my body, I’d call 911 so fast, it’d make his head spin Our argument on that particular night, came when I confronted him about leaving me alone for many nights, to be babysitter for his young daughter for which I was NOT paid, by the way, during those specific weekends he had custody time with her, and when, on many of those weekends, he worked with Marge Calhoun''s banda C&W band, for about six months, and especially when she booked many of her gigs out of town, at or near Ocean City, and I''d be left alone. Yes, I complained about that, so he lifted his fist to my face/head area, as if to strike me!

11/8/2009 3:09:22 PM - Another time, toward the end of our relationship, he lent his cell phone to his daughter, Jolene. I remember him telling me that she’d run up his cell phone bill to over $200. He was pissed about that, so I think he took out his anger on me.

11/8/2009 5:40:52 PM - Your profile smacks familiar to another profile I saw on DDHG. See profile up thee on Tracy Panich Milwaukee/Greenfield/New Berlin, WI: “I have been involved with this man for a number of years. He is extremely manipulative, lies more than he tells the truth and he is a cheater. While he was married and yes when I was involved with him as well I caught him with two other women at varying times. He left his wife and abandoned his children for yet another woman. For the past 4 years, since his divorce, he has been involved with at least two women aside from myself and the women he was involved with during his marriage. While this shouldn''t be so much of a concern normally, he normally cannot have just one woman at a time, he has to be involved with two or more. He manipulates women into allegiance with him, pitting the women against each other as ‘proof’ of loyalty to him. If he is found out, he, at best lies around the situation. He uses the excuse of ‘having his kids’ when he is entertaining a woman that is not you. He preys on women that have self esteem issues [ ] He also uses and manipulates women for money, credit and other material favors. When he left his wife, he manipulated a woman to bankroll his apartment and necessities. When he takes therapy seriously he has the potential to make a good partner. However, he also has a tendency to use the fact that he is in therapy as a pick up tool. Please girls, be careful. This man will break your heart.”

11/8/2009 7:27:33 PM - Wow! Good piece of advocacy here...suggest reading profile up here for Brian Geddes. I''ll quote it for you: “This man has real mental issues when is comes to women. Married 3 times and has lived with many, many women, always searching and moving. Left his first wife with a baby, reconciled with her, got her pregnant then left her again with a toddler, while she was pregnant. Will convince you that he is completely in love. A very well rehearsed act that he has done over and over to several women. Likes to play the big shot but is bankrupt, no money, no assets and will quickly use up yours and then move on to the next woman. Will try to get you involved in some sort of business deal or sure thing investment with your money of course. Works with a little shrimp called Kevin, another user of women. A big boy, 350 lbs, has diabetes, difficulty getting a hard on and HE HAS GENITAL HERPES. Is convinced that all the women are after him. He is a salesman and very good at lying and can turn on the charm. Has been on Plentyoffish, Lava, Eharmony and msn.”

11/8/2009 7:48:44 PM - From the profiler: I may come off as bitter for my profiles on him, but I would rather be seen as bitter, for, now and then, remembering and exposing all of this about Jay, and for divulging my truth, than be the CHRONIC, PATHOLOGICAL, SICK, MENTALLY ILL LIAR who I think Jay Brown is/was. I just want to ensure that no other woman, in future, falls into his trap. Other than that, I HAVE “moved on”. My current beau, with whom I have lived for more than 9 years, is, as far as I can tell, a BEAUTIFUL HONEST man and, as far as I can tell, will never hurt me the same way Jay did, because he has HEALED me. My life partner, as far as I can tell, doesn’t look to live off women..was not afraid to put his roof/house over my head, doesn’t look to MY PURSE for his answers in life he, to me, is a MAN, not a BOY.

11/8/2009 8:53:30 PM - Hi. Noticed your profile up here and thought you might want to read another one, also profiled up here. It''s about Graham Alexander Walling Patterson. Below are just a few sentences quoted from the profile: I always felt he was cheating on me with adult woman, but I could never catch him or prove it and he had so much to offer. So talented in so many areas. He could fix almost anything, I called him my walking, talking encyclopedia/dictionary. I was willing to forgive his infidelities to stay with him. [ ] After about 10 years into the relationship he let me know he worked as a prostitute in San Antonio for almost a year. Then after 10 more years a couple more tidbits came out about him [] In Feb. 2006 I found what looked to be a woman''s phone number on his desk. I called it and sure enough, a woman answered. [ ] This got me to looking around his office even more and I found a box on the bottom shelf of a cabinet with other boxes on top of it. It had about 75 floppy disks in it. I opened them up on my computer. [ ] The first pic I opened was an adult woman in a red neglige and was titled ‘Linda’ I thought ‘Adult porn, no big deal,’ but then I opened the second pic. It was my husband having sex with a little girl! She looked about 10 years old. I had to look at that picture three times before it registered in my brain what I was looking at. He was arrested the next day. The detectives found thousands of images of child porn on his computer. They also found about 200 negatives. Yes, negatives. There was thought that he was transporting the children with his pilot''s license and being the photographer as well. Of course, there was no proof of any of this, just an assumption by them, so charges were never brought on that part of it. They said they couldn''t prove it was him in that picture either, but I know it''s him. I slept with him for 25 years, I know what he looks like naked! His rich doctor brother came into town posted his 2 million dollar bail and hired him a high power attorney. The scum ended up with 2 years of probation and has to register as a sex offender the rest of his life, which I hope won''t be that long! It would have been easier to deal with if he would of just died! This man has no soul! He is cold and is only for himself! You think you know someone, especially after 25 years, but you don''t. If you happen to ever come across this person, YOU RUN!!! AND KEEP YOUR KIDS AWAY FROM HIM FOR SURE! On the floppy disks I saw pics of every act imaginable. This man will do anything! Boys and girls, animals, bondage and I saw chains, not nice bondage. Then the detective calls and says they saw torture pics on his hard drive.

11/9/2009 1:40:35 PM - From the profiler..thank ya''ll for posting bites about other men who seem like Jay Brown. Jay''s best defense is deflecting all his lies on the woman he''s defrauded or is about to defraud.

11/9/2009 2:42:33 PM - Got another one for you..another comparison to make. See DDHG profile about Duane Gillette. Area for him is Miami, Florida. They do look sooo normal, don''t they?

11/9/2009 3:42:45 PM - We could form a nationwide club, call it the OUT ALL THE DOWN LOW MEN club. Another one . . Roger Best . . area is Arlington, Texas. Profile is still on DDHG today.

11/9/2009 4:06:49 PM - I may have forgot to mention these other details about Jay, but they bear mentioning again. He will lick your arm pits and suck your toes. But I would, years later, think that his toesucking fetish meant something else: that he imagined that he had a male''s penis in his mouth. That''s my take on things.

11/9/2009 4:47:27 PM - Here''s one for you to read, about Sylvester Ashford, aka “CatDaddy”, “Ash”, “Slim” and his area is Durham, North Carolina. He''s profiled on DDHG, too.

11/9/2009 6:50:28 PM - Just want to give you some brief excerpts from a profile about Charles H. Kim, up here. Area indicated for him is Richmond, CA: “has a three year old daughter, Hailey, who he likes to have sex in front of. [ ] He has major mother issues and was sexually molested when he was around 9 years old. He''s never been treated for the abuse and has turned into somewhat of a phychopath.” You can read the rest, if you like. Just thought that part about having been sexually molested when he was a kid would ring a bell, since some things about the profile on Kim seem very similar to the guy profiled above.

11/9/2009 8:23:07 PM - Another guy for you that seems like the guy you profiled. His profile''s also on DDHG: Sean Trisch Houston, Texas

11/9/2009 8:54:17 PM - Got another for you..on DDHG as well...Croix Waage...Denver, CO

11/9/2009 9:00:21 PM - Search for the profile about Timothey Waltenburg . . yet another DDHG profile, and compare!

11/10/2009 11:52:18 AM - Something that I had earlier, in one profile about Jay that I had posted elsewhere, needs repeating here… The gay male cousin who Jay said he had oral sex with Jay told me that he had been age 12 when it happened, and that Paul was around age 15 at that time, presents as a Transcendental Meditation instructor all around the world. His name is PAUL BROWN. I profiled him on dontdatehimgirl.com. Area I posted for Paul is San Francisco, because that is where I think he based his business. I also blame Jay’s gay male cousin, Paul Brown, for, IN MY OPINION, “confusing” Jay’s sexual identity, with incest. See http://www.thequietpath.org/ Last Known Email: paul@thequietpath.org I profiled Paul on http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/755 After I first profiled PAUL BROWN on DDHG, later, I noticed that the first web site features, on Paul’s home page, that he’d had up, BEFORE, I profiled Paul on DDHG, had changed, or were GONE. The first web site that PAUL BROWN created, showed, on his home page, a photo of PAUL BROWN, wearing a blue or green shirt, and showed his full face, grinning like a maniac, in my opinion. AFTER I profiled Paul on DDHG, I noticed, later on, that Paul Brown had CHANGED the features of the home opening page of his web site, and viewers could no longer see that fullfaced, real photo of him. Instead, they would see a big “logo” circle, with choices to click on, and the only “resemblence” of Paul could be found by clicking on the word, “instructor”, and when viewers would click on it, what would pop up was a sideview “cameo” of Paul. So, I SUSPECT that Paul was AFRAID TO BE RECOGNIZED, after I profiled him on dontdatehimgirl.com, and I suspect that the reasons for Paul CHANGING his web site features, was to HIDE from others.

11/10/2009 2:13:40 PM - Jay has repeatedly tried to in more than just one woman’s opinion, break up marriages and/or cause drama between couples. Jay is twice divorced. His most current “victim” ..at least that I know about..there may have been more, since her is/was Melinda Yalom, who lived ..she might still .. on Aragon Lane, in Chevy Chase, MD. I should add this, too: in or around 1994, my purse went missing, and it was discovered that some middle aged guy had tried to access my ATM account. That''s why I since no longer have or use ATMs. Consequently, I had to change my IDs, because the police thought that someone tried to steal my identity. I even had to change my social security and license info, to that thief they caught, could not longer access it. I don''t see how it could have happened at my place of work when I noticed my wallet went missing, because I used to lock my purse in my desk drawer there, daily, so was never far from my pocket book. Police snapped a photo of the middleaged guy, while the thief was accessing my ATM. No. It wasn''t Jay, in that photo, but it WAS someone Jay''s age. It occurred to me, years later, that the thief might have been some GAY GUY and FELON, who Jay MIGHT have known, at some point in his life, because, the only other person around me and close enough to me to access my purse back then, on a regular basis, was Jay Brown and, of course, his daughter Jolene. But I eliminated Jolene from my suspect list, because I don''t think she would''ve known any middleaged felons, but her father had known felons, and at different times in his life. Jay admitted to me that he had let some gay felon off charges, when the gay guy was caught stealing that large amethyst bird from the Stone Art rock/gem shop, on Canterbury Square. Lord knows how many felons Jay might have known or slept with back then that last setence was conjecture on my part...merely suspicion or opinion, however, please do not stop reading.., since he advertised for SEX ON A SWINGERS SITE, and guys who may or may not have responded to his ad, might as well have been felons, right out of prison!

11/10/2009 7:58:40 PM - Jay, one time, telephoned my old father, telling my father he thought I was “harassing” him, and asked my father to tell me to stop. Boo hoo hoo. Poor little Jay. Probably did it because I had made copies of his nasty ad on that swingers site, advertising himself as bisexual, along with copies of the email confirmation he got from the swingers site administrator, confirming he’d joined it. I circled Jay’s email address with a RED FELT SHARPIE, and mailed those copies out to about 40 of his friends and/or family, because I wanted them to know what a FRAUD he was back then. Chances are high, I think, that he probably still is. I’ll wager that 30+ years of cheating and defrauding women he’s lived with, and defrauding them about his sexualI think sexual identity—confusion, shows PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR, across more than three decades, I think, so I doubt he will change, because I believe it is INGRAINED in his personality and brain mosaics part of his personal paradigm.

11/10/2009 8:57:13 PM - Finally, and this will probably be my last comment for a long time, unless someone posts who also had her life ruined by a narcissist, then I will answer her question…Jay, I think has traits of both the cerebral narcissist and the somatic narcissist, though I think he leans more to being a somatic narcissist. Read about the Somatic and Cerebral Narcissists, from Dr. Sam Vaknin, on http://samvak.tripod.com/faq29.html Another source on Wiki.Answers.com, “How long will a narcissist stay in somatic mode?” informs: “It is a mistake to assume typeconstancy. In other words, all narcissists are BOTH cerebral and somatic. In each narcissist, one of the types is dominant. So, the narcissist is either OVERWHELMINGLY cerebral or DOMINANTLY somatic. But the other type, the recessive manifested less frequently type, is there. It is lurking, waiting to erupt.” Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_will_a_narcissist_stay_in_somatic_mode source

11/12/2009 10:58:03 AM - Oh, and to see what Melinda Yalom looked like, see my profile on Ed Rejuney, on the Don’t Date This Guy web site. That profile has a photo of her sitting next to Ed, taken, I think at a VALENTINE’S DAY celebration, at her home I attended, and taken AFTER Jay Brown had painted her home, I believe. It was when Jay had painted her home that I think she began her affair with Jay. The thing I found to be ironic was that she had admitted to me, at some point, that she had ceased to work fulltime for the former boss of hers who was Moslem, I think she told me, and said she was working parttime, instead. I guessed that she probably went from fulltime to parttime, to make it easier to have her affair with Jay, and to open up her schedule to do so. Watch out for her, too. She might stab you in the back as she did me, or go after YOUR man.

11/12/2009 6:47:57 PM - See profile up here for Frank Del la femina Framingham, MA: “a 62 year old sociopath that is just looking to take your money. he''ll say or do anything necessary in order to have a place to lay his head and store his crap. watch out hoooolia we''ve all heard how he''s filled your cellar with all his crap because of course he hasn''t paid his bills at his storage facility. are you feeding him? covering his bounced checks? helping him get ''organized''?? WATCH OUT! WE''VE ALL DONE IT. do you think he''s ''in love with you''? is that before or after he''s criticized you, humiliated you, made fun of you, told you that you don''t KNOW things??? you''ve been through a few divorces do you think that''s by accident? wise up get out NOW.” Yeah…I see parallels between the “M.O.” for Frank and the guy you profiled, especially since you mentioned about him saving himself $21,000 or more,across 8 and onehalf years, to store his rock shop inventory at the home you rented. And yes, I would agree, he probably got to write off, on his taxes, that part of the home you both rented, for all those years he lived with you. Frauds like them should be brought down to the bottomlevel pond scum, bottomfeeder level they all are.

11/12/2009 6:58:43 PM - Precisely my feelings, last commentor .. that is why I think that the Internal Revenue Service IRS ought to investigate his A S S, and take another look at his tax reporting documents, from 1991 through 2000, when he lived on Windsor Avenue in Manassas, Virginia, because, even though the twocar garage on that rental unit, that we BOTH signed the lease on, held between, I would say, from 90 to 99 percent of HIS stuff.. mostly inventory from the rock shop Stone Art, that he operated, and even though it was mainly HIS rock shop equipment and workshop stuff, stored on our back porch, for those years, I still paid half the rent most of those years/months, so I SUSPECT that he MAY have cheated on his taxes, for years, back then, too, but that is my opinion.

11/13/2009 10:24:41 AM - I posted a whole “gallery” on the Don’t Date This Guy web site, so folks could see what Jay looked like, at different points in his life, and so that any gay guy who has had sex with him no matter when, or how far back could comment to any of my posts, and help me OUT HIM TO THE WORLD, and to let everyone know that…NO, INDEED, PATTIE, JAY’S FIRST WIFE AND I WERE NOT WRONG ABOUT JAY’S DOWNLOW WAYS: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3532 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3533 One profile shows Jay with his sister Linda the sister he said let him watch while she masturbated, when he was a minor: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3536

11/13/2009 10:25:13 AM - These are the rest of the profiles, on the Don’t Date This Guy web site: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3539 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3540 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3541 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3543 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3544 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3546 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3547 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3548 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3549 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3550 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3551 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3552 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3553 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3554 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3562 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3564 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3565 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3566 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3575 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3582 http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3584

11/13/2009 10:25:39 AM - On these URLs, you can find more profiles about him, on dontdatehimgirl.com. I just want to make sure that everyone knows what this jerk looked like, at different times in his life, so they can STAY CLEAR of him: http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/74748/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/84065/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/84063/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/84057/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/94796/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/94682/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/94678/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/94668/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/89817/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/89811/ http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/89800/

11/13/2009 10:28:42 AM - If you want to see what MELINDA YALOM looked like, around the time I think, anyway she began cheating on her husband, ED REJUNEY, with JAY BROWN, see profile about ED REJUNEY I posted, and so you will know how I felt to be THE LAST TO KNOW, and how sadly, my networks were affected by the actions of FRAUD, JAY BROWN: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3585

11/13/2009 12:43:51 PM - I retold my story on this site, in case you get tired of reading it in pieces: http://friends.portalofevil.com/sp.php?pi=1000692408

11/13/2009 3:57:08 PM - Last I knew, Jay didn’t have any “retirement plan”. His idea of a retirement plan, in my opinion, is to steal from loving wives or girlfriends, and probably to get him on HER retirement plan! Don’t go for it! Anyone STUPID enough to become this guy’s THIRD WIFE, had better have him sign a prenup, and one that is in HER favor.

11/14/2009 1:14:13 PM - Suggest reading DDHG profile on Darren Powell, that might “resemble” yours about Jay: “He is also a pervert and he spends hours wanking using his webcam, this seems to be compulsive behaviour too. I even found a video on MY laptop of someone wanking over a photograph of a girl whilst the girl watched this on webcam. He constantly wanted to do that to me. He wanted me to dye my hair and look a certain way for him, and he was more interested in watching himself wank over me than actual sex. I am convinced he has a deep seated personality disorder, including paranoia and girls you should AVOID THIS MAN at all costs. If you are seeing him LEAVE NOW! He is a sick individual.”

11/14/2009 3:19:21 PM - As I’ve said before…he might, as he did to me, mirror your interests, to seem like you both have much in common. Sure, he’ll turn on the classical public radio station, acting, I think, like he’s a “cultured” man. Meanwhile, the only “culture” you might see is that I think fungus on his yellowing, aging toenails. He didn’t even know about the public radio, Sunday program, “G Strings” until I learned about it from my brother. Jay used to ask me for the answers to the foreign words of the crossword puzzles he’d read while on the toilet.

11/14/2009 5:07:23 PM - Jay’s to my knowledge oldest living sister, Paula Pendergast not sure of spelling, who, when I knew her, I believe lived in or owned property in Connecticut, and who was married to a guy named Joe, who, I think was or is disabled, was the one who loaned Jay $17,000. I think I saw an article about Paula, possibly it was in Newsweek, possibly from the early 1990s, about her successful business in Human Resources. I think she operated a temp company or a human resource agency. In my opinion, her loan to him represented, to me, his “codependency” on her. He liked to toss around the jargon of Codependency theory, learned, I think, from his Alcoholics Anonymous membership/attendance, but, to me, he was the BIGGEST “codependent” of anyone I have ever known.

11/16/2009 10:41:08 AM - Clarification: Paula lent Jay the $17,000, not Joe. Last I knew, in 2000, Jay still owed her the money. I almost feel sorry for Melinda, because, if he still owes that $ to Paula, it would take him a loooonnng time, I think, to pay that much cash back to her, so I think Melinda will be in for a rude surprise, if she thinks he''ll be in the black to make her life comfortable.

11/16/2009 12:43:40 PM - Here’s another one you could compare Jay to, from the Don’t Date This Guy site, and for Scott Barta. Here are some bytes quoted from it: “you get hints he''s prawling around because he won''t answer any personal questions” “He has an oddly oedipal relationship with his mother” “His sister tells you he has 8 kids with a series of women who when you contact have the same experiences that you do.” “I had many guys who know him tell me he''ll never just be with me, because even they don''t like his behavior with women” “hang on to your purse” “He''s always screwing at least two women at a time” “He doesn''t think he needs help, he''ll try and make you think it''s you. Don''t fall for it, it''s him. He''s built like a thirteen year old, and emotionally, that truly is his age.” “he''ll make you feel loved for about 10 minutes, but its what a sex addict does to make you his enabler.”

11/16/2009 1:35:25 PM - Oooh…got another for you .. Compare him to Paul Marney Ledbetter. He’s profiled up here, too or was: “can‘t do anything without his mother‘s permission! He said my friend was the love of his life, the only one he ever loved and ever would love again and then he wanted her to sign over her property and everything to him and him only. He is a CON man and a liar! His mother calls constantly and controls his life” “He has been married 3 times and was only 38 years old! He has a police record. He is a very good con artist.” “He is the most horrible hateful person and comes off as such a sweet shy guy it is all an act! People in town have told us that they suspect incest in the family and with his issues in the bedroom it sure looked like it!”

11/17/2009 12:35:14 PM - Jay seems to have this uncanny “ability” of being able to move between states or cities, cutting ties with people as he goes, to make himself over. If you are well off or financially set in life, I think you’ll be on his target list. Just like Dave Paul Auvinen also profiled up here: “He will put on a good show, flowers, gifts, the works, until your replacement comes into view” I’ll wager he’ll do the same to you as he did to me, that once he’s done with you, some of those gifts he gave you, across the years, he will admit, were “guilt presents.” A few days ago, I added another profile about him, to my “gallery” about him, on the Don’t Date This Guy web site: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3607 Just go to dontdatethis.com, select the “Don’t Date This Guy” link not the other one, use the “Advanced Search” feature up there, plug in the name JAY BROWN, and you’ll find all the profiles I posted about him on that site, so that GAY MEN WHO HAVE HAD SEX WITH THEM, IF THEY DID, CAN RECOGNIZE HIS FACE, FROM DIFFERENT STAGES OF HIS LIFE, AND COMMENT TO ANY OF MY POSTS, TO INDICATE WHEN AND WHERE THEY SEXED HIM, IF THEY DID, and because I believe he’s been DEFRAUDING WOMEN FOR DECADES!

11/17/2009 1:57:30 PM - It still seems to me, after all these years yes..that''s how much it shocked me a HEINOUS SIN for someone like Melinda Yalom, to step on the relationship of a supposed friend, just because she was experiencing some financial hardships, to go after that friend''s man. It seems WORSE if I believe what Jay said about her, that she was encouraging him to write, when, around that same time, his writing about that stripper, which he showed to me and I kept a copy of it was nothing but DENIGRATING to me, and further, EMOTIONALLY and PSYCHOLOGICALLY ABUSIVE. Worse when it seems she BUTTED into my personal and health life, by suggesting that book to him or, at least he said she suggested it, about perimenopause. Again..I would be that person to answer, when the priest or minister announces, Speak now or forever hold your peace..about sexual abusers or psychological abusers, or offenders, to help any woman avoid getting herself involved with someone like Jay Brown.

11/18/2009 10:38:18 AM - To see what Melinda Yalom looked like in the 1990''s, see this URL. It''s a photo of her during, I think, a Valentine''s Day celebration she held at her home, after Jay had painted her house, or was about to paint it. There she is, sitting next to her thenhusband, Ed Rejuney, still seeming to be tight with him.: http://www.dontdatethis.com/ddtguy/page.php?mod=contents&sec=cheater&id=3585

11/18/2009 11:12:54 AM - Don’t let him seduce you with his supposedly “spiritual” songs, like Ry Cooder’s THE TATTLER Nancy Griffith’s FROM A DISTANCE John Martyn’s MAY YOU NEVER Rodney Crowell’s TIL I CAN GAIN CONTROL AGAIN. They are all part of his slimy seduction technique.

11/18/2009 12:28:21 PM - Compare Jay to another “mama’s boy” profiled on DDHG, Ali Mohamed: “He is very controlling, abusive and unstable. Blames everything on others, takes no responsibility. Refuses to admit he is not nice to women, that they deserve respect. Pretends to be a gentleman until you believe it, than the angry outbursts and fake accusations begin. To make you feel better, he will say ‘Don''t worry, I yell at my mother worse’, but he cannot stand up to her or his father. He is pathetic [ ] is very very insecure and will resent you for this and withhold affection and sex [ ] has a love and hate relationships with women because his mother is very controlling. He does as he is told so as soon as a relationship gets serious, his parents will tell him to break it off, and he will. They threaten him with cutting his money off and so since money and status is more important to him than anything else, you will be history. Than he will act like you were mean to him while he breaks up with you over the phone, will make false accusations about your behaviour to justify the breakup, because he is a coward but he thinks if he doesn''t admit to it, you won''t realize that he is breaking up because his parents told him to. He will never live his own life, his muslim parents are the puppetteers, he is the puppet. He acts like he has no remorse but is always depressed and sick and anxious and can''t sleep. This is because he has hurt so many women, broken so many hearts because his parents told him to. I have met them, nice to your face, evil on the phone after meeting you will laugh and rejoice in the fact that their son did what they told him to. They will laugh at your heartbreak. He is not his own man, he is a child desperate for their attention. He will act like you don''t exist, that he never told you you would move in together, but he did and you were lovers. You end up heartbroken and homeless in a hotel for a month because your temporary roommate situation ended when it should have, when you were supposed to move in together. He doesn''t care that this is happening because he deceived you. He is very cruel and heartless.”

11/18/2009 1:15:46 PM - Wow! Compare DDHG profile about Marquis Collins, aka The Kidd: “has several full time girlfriends at one time and none of them know anything about each other because he uses his pathetic music career to cover his cheating. He uses excuses like he is going to the studio so he can stay out late or not come over at all, his artist has a show or some road trip with one of his artists. All lies to allow him to have time for his other women!! Everything about this man is a lie. He is a fronter and he is a bum with no money. [ ] He lives with his mother. He does not have a car nor a house or apartment and hasn''t unless it was with another woman. So you better believe if you see him in a nice car or he has a pocket full of money, it is definitely financed by another woman, who most definitely thinks she is the only one in Marquis''s life. He is attractive and will steal your heart and take your money with ease. [ ] He just uses women for money or anything he can get out of them. He even uses and takes advantage of his own mother! [ ] There are also strong rumors around Baltimore he is on the downlow.”

11/19/2009 11:08:32 AM - One of Jay''s nicknames was Junior. I also profiled him on DDHG as JUNIOR BROWN I noticed that one of the hardcore, malemale porn videos he’d bought or rented, when he lived with me, had the theme of gay male firefighters masturbating together, orgy style. Consequently, I suspected, and still do suspect, that there is a DOWNLOW subculture in the firefighting profession. For proof of his pornviewing habits, though I threw in the trash most of the porn videos that I found that he’d bought, but I tore off the box tops to several of them, and those boxtops have some of the names of the nasty hardcore porn videos he’d bought. They also have the scanner code on the tops of them. If anyone had the bucks to further investigate, they could go to that adult video store in Manassas, Virginia, that’s near the junction of Interstate 66, off Sudley Rd, where he NOT ME! bought and rented them. To buy them, he had to have shown his driver’s license there, so I suspect he still might be in the records at that store, as proof of his purchases and rentals. The stupid dog didn’t even care it’s my opinion that those rentals and purchases could have compromised my own life or even my professional life a straight profession that usually pays well, when, at the time he purchased and rented them, my address was also his.

11/19/2009 11:43:05 AM - OTHER HELPFUL SOURCES: www.lovefraud.com http://helpguide.org/mental/domestic_violence_abuse_types_signs_causes_effects.htm

11/19/2009 11:44:02 AM - http://www.lovefraud.com/01_whatsaSociopath/key_symptoms_sociopath.html

11/19/2009 6:44:45 PM - COMPARE. This profile about Saffire Bouchelion, aka “Kenneth Bracey” was once posted on datingpsychos.com, but got deleted, and many women think it should not have been deleted: “Age: 47 Occupation: Nia Instructor, Musician, Performer [ ] Intial impression: Happygolucky, upbeat, manic, creative, childlike, and utterly confident handsome black man, with shoulder length dredlocks, and a gap between his front teeth. Someone who really loves themself, and who feels confident in their place in the world and their abilities. [ ] Markets himself as an enlightened, soulsearching, newage, community minded/building, lovemonster who is creating a more loving and beautiful world by bringing folks together through movement, music, tantric sex, and selfawareness. [ ] Check out his myspace page for the full selfdisclosing/promoting illusion. [ ] What you find when you get up close and personal is a man who has the emotional intelligence of about a 5year old, who has a solid history of troubled, shortterm relationships with lovers, roomies, friends, ''students'', etc.. that are characterized by his subtle, and not so subtle demands to have his ''needs'' met. He lives a parasitic lifestyle, using a variety of people to just squeek by...but that still allows him to indulge in travel, shopping, and the consumption of lots of alcohol and drugs. He elevates his inability to emotionally connect and make commitments in love relationships by appearing to be ''questioning'' and ''undecided'' about monogamy vs. poly amory. He has been confused about this his entire adult life, using it as a way to elevate his pathology to the level of idealism. [ ] He is a complete fraud, a newage con man. Many have been fooled. Lots of broken hearts, lightened bank accounts, and chaos are strewn behind him. [ ] He typifies all of the characteristics of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Grandiose, lacks empathy pathologically insensitive to the feelings of others, never admits fault though may pretend to for the sake of appearance, jealous, emotionally abusive, selfish to a fault, threatened by others success or riding the coat tails thereof, critical of others while being nice to their faces, a chronic liar cheater, manipulator, bullish, addicted many/most are actively addicted to several things: sex, drugs, booze, tv, fast lifestyle, drama, etc..., UNTRUSTABLE... [ ] Getting too close to this ''man'' will lead to INEVITABLE HARM: betrayal, deceit, possible exposure to sexually transmitted disease, loss of finances, emotional abuse and degredation of feelings of selflove and respect. I have unverified information indicating he has been physically violent with at least one woman. [ ] I post this in the service of all others who are searching for what is real and true.”

11/19/2009 8:56:51 PM - That poem that I found that Jay had handwritten in his notebook, with the words, “After a while you learn the subtle difference between holding a hand and chaining a soul and you learn that love doesn''t mean leaning and company doesn''t always mean security” …wasn’t even his own. I found it on: Recovery Emporium Comes The Dawn A Poem http://www.stumbleupon.com/stumbler/johnshaven/review/11432975/ I think it came from recoveryemporium.com From the page: After a While Maybe he got it from his AA meetings or some therapy meeting he had at Michael Borash’s office. Maybe it’s part of the Codependency hogwash jargon he seemed to hijack and use, to flip the script on women, like when telling his women there were overreacting or enmeshed..a PROJECTION I think, of what HE himself was doing or the was HE was, to DEFLECT the blame from himself to others!

11/20/2009 12:11:15 PM - That poem he''d copied, in his handwriting, was © 1971 Veronica A. Shoffstall So, it seems, he''ll digest/regurgitate poems as well as songs, to twist their meanings, to whatever suits his convenient sick purposes, when I''m certain that the artists/composers did not intend their words to be misconstrued, twisted, or used the wrong way.

11/20/2009 12:34:54 PM - Not only that, but Virginia Shoffstall apparently didn’t give credit to the author she was interpreting. So, if Jay was “plagiarizing” or “borrowing” from Shoffstall, what he thought was “cool” was secondhand, and possibly plagiarized. See: http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:JxVm6isJ68J:www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php%3Ft%3D293532+%22Veronica+A.+Shoffstall+%22&cd=19&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us See blogs on that site: “I think it''s a translation of a poem by Jorge Luis Borges” and “Thank you so much! I feel slightly duped, there was no reference to Borges”

11/20/2009 1:47:08 PM - Here’s another comparison for you..Marc Rainish, who is also profiled up here. I thought it would help, since you mentioned Jay’s rehab? time at Edgemeade and Melwood.: “married 3 times each marriage was dissolved because of his infidelity. [ ] I hired a private detective and that''s how I found out about his 3 marriages I even spoke with his exwives and they told me their sad stories. I also found out he has 4 children from these marriages AND he has 3 illegitimate kids one is an adult now and one is severely handicapped. [ ] one thing he''ll never tell you: He has a criminal record a mile long! He''s been in prison for everything from fraud to beating one of his girlfriends and her daughter. Not only did I talk to his exwives, the private detective was also able to track down some of his other exgirlfriends, who I also was able to speak to. [ ] The other women, exwives and exgirlfriends all informed me that this is a typical ‘Marc Rainish’ pattern. He''s a golddigger who uses women until they run out of money. He traditionally will date/have relationships with 2 to 3 women at a time. One of the exwives said he was living with another woman before their divorce was even final. His ex''s have stated that Marc has been an active drug user since high school. He''s been institutionalized at a place called ‘Halbrook’ ReHab. Stay away, Marc doesn''t love himself, so there is no way he is capable of loving a woman. He has so much bitterness and resentment towards women, he feels no remorse when he cheats on us or steals or takes advantage.”

11/20/2009 2:02:47 PM - Another profile about Marc Rainish, aka CONMAN of CT”, “DeadBeat is up on http://dontdatehimgirl.com/posts/235721/: “Deadbeat Marc Rainish has been SUED 8 times in the past 10 years. [ ] That''s why the utilities ALWAYS have to be in YOUR name ladies! [ ] You''d have to be pretty stupid to get involved with a man in his early 40s who already had 3 failed marriages and not think ‘something is seriously wrong with him [ ] is a criminal, can''t be trusted, don''t hire him, don''t get involved with him. He''s trouble! Everything listed here is FACTS! [ ] If you still think this Conman is ‘The Man of your Dream’ and ‘A Stand Up Guy’, then you deserve to have your credit ruined and your bank account emptied and your heart broken for being so blind and stupid. The women from 10 13 years ago didn''t have the advantages of web sites to instantly inform them what kind of man Marc is. We have them now, and shame on the woman who chooses not to investigate him before getting involved” Yes..COMPARE…since, when you lived with Jay, the utilities were also in your name only.

11/20/2009 5:41:54 PM - He called me on the telephone, after he''d moved out..asked me, you''re not going to hurt yourself, are you?.. to which I answered, No. Nobody is worth hurting or killing oneself over I suspect, though, years later, that he probably WANTED or EXPECTED me to hurt myself. There are, to me, only TWO kinds of men in our lives..those who RESTORE, and those who DESTROY. To me, Jay is the latter.
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