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Posted: 3/5/2010 7:31 PM |
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Angelina Jolie‘s father, Jon Voight, was unfaithful to her mother. Left her mother for another woman.
This has turned her into the slut she is.
As a girl she whored herself, because she assumed her father would approve of a girl who had sex with men, lots of men.
She grew up with the insecurity and low self image many girls do when they feel rejected by their fathers.
With this need to ‘prove‘ she was ‘as good as‘ or better than her mother, she went after other women‘s husbands. For being married, even being loved was not enough for her pathetic ego.
Married to Johnny Lee Miller in 1996 she slept with Mick Jagger who was married to Jerry Hall. This was the first major documented evidence of the kind of person she was.
Having an affair with a married man filled a psychological vacancy.
She ‘possessed‘ her father, (the married man) she proved she was ‘better‘ than the wife, (her mother) and gained the rush of feeling whole.
She went after Billy Bob Thornton, who was engaged to Laura Dern, and took him away from Dern, married him, but the marriage fell apart.
It fell apart because the rush of taking the husband from the wife, waned.
She went after Brad Pitt, took him from his wife, but they did not marry, They have been together for 5 years.
It seems evident that Jolie has squeezed all the attention out of the relationship, and no doubt because Pitt resembles her father, she gets that rush.
She is supposed to star with Johnny Depp in ‘The Tourist‘.
It is pretty clear that she will try to seduce him. This is because Depp is at the top of his game, where Bitt is falling into the rubbish heap.
This behaviour of Jolie is that of the text book Other Woman.
She can only feel whole when she has taken another woman‘s man.
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Posted: 3/5/2010 9:22 PM |
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I take it you don‘t like Angelina Jolie.... Just a guess....
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Posted: 3/6/2010 1:14 AM |
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Well, I wish I was still at the point where I thought she‘s the most gorgeous woman on the planet and therefore must have no faults, but I know too much about her and have done too many public relations campaigns to sustain that belief.
She‘s a very traumatized, confused and disturbed individual.
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Posted: 3/6/2010 9:02 AM |
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| Kahlan wrote: | Well, I wish I was still at the point where I thought she‘s the most gorgeous woman on the planet and therefore must have no faults, but I know too much about her and have done too many public relations campaigns to sustain that belief.
She‘s a very traumatized, confused and disturbed individual.
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I completely agree!
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Posted: 3/6/2010 12:52 PM |
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She said she was estranged from her father because he cheated on her mother and she would never do that. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
She is a good actress though.
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Posted: 3/6/2010 8:44 PM |
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Many other women; and I‘m not talking the idiot who doesn‘t know the guy is married, I‘m talking of the kind of slut who knows John & Mary are married before she even meets them...and goes after John.
This kind usually has a similar situation as Jolie. Feeling her father rejected her, she goes after married men to capture her father. She is virtually sleeping with her father every time she gets into bed with a married man.
She has a very low self image;
Now the same way Jolie got Pitt is the same way the O.W. go after your husband. When you see Jolie you are seeing the same thing you saw when the slut went after your husband.
Understanding Jolie is understanding the other woman.
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Posted: 3/7/2010 5:17 AM |
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| kaylar wrote: |
Many other women; and I‘m not talking the idiot who doesn‘t know the guy is married, I‘m talking of the kind of slut who knows John & Mary are married before she even meets them...and goes after John.
This kind usually has a similar situation as Jolie. Feeling her father rejected her, she goes after married men to capture her father. She is virtually sleeping with her father every time she gets into bed with a married man.
She has a very low self image;
Now the same way Jolie got Pitt is the same way the O.W. go after your husband. When you see Jolie you are seeing the same thing you saw when the slut went after your husband.
Understanding Jolie is understanding the other woman.
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I love the way you put that, well said and a clear point!
I was a bit confused by this rant originally. I mean, I realize that your were pointing out that she is the typical OW, but to me it was just another person that didn‘t like Jolie because of her actions blowing off steam. I was thinking "Wow, someone who hates Jolie for more than just the fact that she is ridiculously gorgeous and knows it! Finally!"
Now I see your point clearly and can appreciate the way I‘m sure you intended.
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Posted: 3/7/2010 8:19 AM |
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I think our culture has a tendency to idolize celebrities. They‘re people just like anyone else, and primarily, they are entertainers. They can be enormously talented and interesting, but that has nothing to do with who they are as human beings.
We put Tiger Woods on this huge pedestal because he was such a good golfer. He inspired us with his athletic prowess. The media (sharing his "inspirational" story) made him a "hero" and an "example" of greatness.
But really, he was just a man, and like all men, has faults and weaknesses like everyone else, and now we are crucifying him for not being the "hero" we thought he was.
"Pedestals" make the fall from grace all that much harder. I think the mistake we make is putting anyone on a pedestal to begin with.
I think Angelina Jolie is a talented actress and a beautiful woman, but I have no respect for her going after someone else‘s husband, and I think Jennifer Aniston was treated very shabbily.
I refused to watch "Mr. & Mrs. Smith" and boycotted most of their movies out of principle. I don‘t care how much she donates to charity, or how many "ambassador-ships" she takes on. I find it difficult to respect someone who does that.
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Posted: 3/7/2010 9:12 AM |
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Interesting take Kaylar. I don’t think I will ever understand the other woman.
My ex’s other woman when after him full force knowing he was married and even admitted it. She was married as well. She wanted my lifestyle she said.
As Rhi said, I find it difficult to “respect” anyone who does that.
You really think it is low self image? Most say that, but I am not sure I believe that.
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Posted: 3/7/2010 2:57 PM |
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I want you to all think back to when you were a girl turning into a woman. "Am I pretty?" "Do boys like me?" "Am I prettier than Joyce?" "Am I as good as Michelle?"
This little thoughts run through our minds. And maybe we try to prove we are ‘sexier‘ or ‘prettier‘ or ‘better‘ than a peer by going after their boyfriend.
If Alan prefers to be with me instead of Ann, I am better than Ann.
We do this when we are kids because our self-images are fluid, and we are unsure. We are young, we may not know who we are, what we are.
So we go after a boy and he sits next to us in the lunchroom, not Debbie. And we feel oh, we are prettier than Debbie.
As we grow up we don‘t have to do this any more. We have ‘proven‘ we are ‘just as good as‘ or ‘prettier than‘ or whatever it is we needed to prove to ourselves.
Then there are those girls who have this basic sense of inferiority who have to go after other people‘s boyfriends.
These girls often become the class slut. They have sex with everyone in their ‘taking away boyfriend‘ strategy. They are ‘popular‘ they pretend.
The unattached boy has no cache for them. They don‘t want a boy no one else wants or has, they want a boy they can take away from another girl. The taking away is the kick. And they will do anything they can to take him away.
The reason I use Jolie and not Linda from my 7th grade class is because you don‘t know Linda, but you know Jolie.
Anyone can read Jolie‘s bio and see where she came from, what she‘s done.
Many O.W. want to be you. They go after your husband so as to ‘conquer‘ you.
The strategy to get rid of the other woman is to make your husband seem to be garbage.
Case 1 -- wife confronts O.W. --- "Can you keep him out to 3 am? My boyfriend and I are going to Ochi."
Hubby is not taking O.W. to Ochi. Wife has another man. Hubby is garbage. O.W. dumps hubby.
Case 2 - wife in passenger‘s seat of BMW points O.W. out to male driver, and laughs, then they pass.
O.W. dumps hubby.
Case 3 - wife laughing in shop; "When I hear a goat scream at night I assume Hubby is on it. He has sex with anything except me. I haven‘t let that pig touch me for years!"
O.W. dumps hubby.
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Posted: 3/7/2010 4:28 PM |
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| kaylar wrote: | Many other women; and I‘m not talking the idiot who doesn‘t know the guy is married, I‘m talking of the kind of slut who knows John & Mary are married before she even meets them...and goes after John.
This kind usually has a similar situation as Jolie. Feeling her father rejected her, she goes after married men to capture her father. She is virtually sleeping with her father every time she gets into bed with a married man.
She has a very low self image;
Now the same way Jolie got Pitt is the same way the O.W. go after your husband. When you see Jolie you are seeing the same thing you saw when the slut went after your husband.
Understanding Jolie is understanding the other woman.
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I‘m very inclined to agree
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Posted: 3/8/2010 4:29 PM |
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Brad and Angelina are a perfect match. he is a dog that doesn‘t seem to be able to stay faithful to any woman, and she is, well....a huss.
What does any woman think getting involved with Brad Pitt? And they say men think with their d!cks. Any woman that doesn‘t know Brad is a dog and WILL end up cheating on them has a problem.
And as a man, I don‘t care what anyone says, I wouldn‘t get involved with someone as skanky as Angelina. I absolutely loathe people that sleep with other people‘s spouses/gf‘s/bf‘s. Angelina seems to make it her life‘s mission to see how many taken men she can bed down. No thanks to a woman like that, I don‘t care how good they look.(and she aint looking all the good any more in my opinion)
I hope they both stay together. They are saving 2 other people that way.
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Posted: 3/9/2010 7:38 AM |
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My husband‘s OW (and that stands for other WHORE) knew he was married. We interact together on our facebooks quite a bit, and it said it right up there! He even has a picture of us together as his profile pic. She saw the "I love you‘s" which he conveniently stopped doing for awhile, during the time he was messing around with her. He knew her since they were young, so I‘m going to ask him if her daddy did that to her mommy. I‘m figuring so.
Interesting take on AJ. I used to like her, but it‘s hard to even appreciate her talent now for me.
It‘s amazing how some of these women will believe any stupid thing the guy says, even when she has the opportunity to check out the truth and furthermore, sees the truth (well, at least it seemed to be to me) that we were in a loving relationship, nothing like he was telling her. AJ and my husband‘s OW have a lot in common, except my husband‘s OW is ugly. She was pretty when she was young but her looks went to hell. He didn‘t look at recent pics that other people posted of her. He just saw her profile pic from her young days.
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Posted: 3/9/2010 9:02 PM |
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What Is so significant about Jolie is that she makes it her life‘s mission to go after ‘taken‘ men.
Years ago, after hearing me discuss the O.W. who specialise in married me he bought a wedding band. He had so much p that he said; "I thought my c would fall off."
Now here is a guy, doesn‘t look all that wonderful. Puts on a wedding band and females are falling all over him. Why? Because to take him from another woman proves they are ‘better than‘.
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Posted: 3/10/2010 2:18 PM |
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Wonder what she‘s gonna do when Megan Fox pops up in good ol‘ magic mirror ...
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Posted: 3/10/2010 5:24 PM |
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Many years ago, Mia Farrow went after Andre Previn who was married. It was very painful for his wife, Dory Previn. After Mia was divorced from Previn she had an affair with Woody Allen who dumped her for the 18 year old she had adopted.
the world laughed mia farrow to scorn; When Pitt dumps her for some hot 20 year old starlet, I hope she knows she‘ll reap the world‘s mirth.
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Posted: 3/27/2010 4:56 PM |
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Oh for heaven sakes! Why such hate? Why does anyone even care about the OW? She is of 100% irrevelance to "the" problem.
The OW isnt the cause of anything....she‘s merely a symptom and/or result of an already flawed marriage.
Lumping all OW into the "searching for Daddy" nonsense is laughable.
At least try to be objective....
Believe it or not..........there are actually married couples who NEVER should have been married in the first place.
What about them? Still going to blame it on the OW who married the cheating man while they live happily ever after?
Gee.....why didnt he cheat on her?
Not ALL cheating men are schmucks and not ALL OW are sluts.
Some of them are just looking for happiness.
Ponder that one peeps............
Ive known some very decent people whom have cheated.....and have never seen them happier after they found the right one. I for one am not going to judge them on how,when where or by what means they found it either.
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Posted: 3/28/2010 3:46 PM |
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I never thought she was all that great looking. Always felt Jennifer was much prettier.
Its hollywood though, its fake, full of insecurity and totally unlike real life...affairs are the norm, insincerity rules the day.
I do agree though that women who go after men who are already attached usually do so out of a certain sense of insecurity.
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I never thought she was all that great looking. Always felt Jennifer was much prettier.
Its hollywood though, its fake, full of insecurity and totally unlike real life...affairs are the norm, insincerity rules the day.
I do agree though that women who go after men who are already attached usually do so out of a certain sense of insecurity.
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It is pure insecurity. There is no reason for it. The O.W. knows the guy is married virtually before she meets him. Her pursuit of him, her efforts to get him can not be confined to an attraction for him...for once you know X is married you don‘t get involved.
It is as simple as that.
I can list cases in which as soon as the O.W. believes the wife has someone else or wants to get rid of the husband, she dumps him.
A particular female thought this guy was married. Well, he was, but was divorced twenty years ago. Because his ex wife was all that he continued to claim to be married to her. As she was one of those thoroughly nice people and had a child for him, the relationship was kept cordial. The ex-wife had no idea that her ex was claiming they were still married, until one day she was
at a function, with a date, when the O.W. showed up. When she realised that her beloved was not married to his ex, that he had lied about being married, she dumped him.
It destroyed her completely to realise that she wasn‘t taking this woman‘s husband. There was no reason to break up with him outside of the fact he wasn‘t married.
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| kaylar wrote: | I want you to all think back to when you were a girl turning into a woman. "Am I pretty?" "Do boys like me?" "Am I prettier than Joyce?" "Am I as good as Michelle?"
This little thoughts run through our minds. And maybe we try to prove we are ‘sexier‘ or ‘prettier‘ or ‘better‘ than a peer by going after their boyfriend.
If Alan prefers to be with me instead of Ann, I am better than Ann.
We do this when we are kids because our self-images are fluid, and we are unsure. We are young, we may not know who we are, what we are.
So we go after a boy and he sits next to us in the lunchroom, not Debbie. And we feel oh, we are prettier than Debbie.
Then there are those girls who have this basic sense of inferiority who have to go after other people‘s boyfriends.
The unattached boy has no cache for them. They don‘t want a boy no one else wants or has, they want a boy they can take away from another girl. The taking away is the kick. And they will do anything they can to take him away.
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I can‘t remember ever feeling that way or doing any of those things. Not once.
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