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Posted: 12/10/2009 7:26 PM |
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I‘m close to my divorce now. as I have been on this roller coaster for the last year, I‘ve really looked closely at men. I recognize how often I go for a man who is ‘strong‘ or even somewhat ‘aggressive‘ sexually. that seems to get me going. but, that same man will be the same way when he gets bored. and boy, do boys get bored! I now realize I will probably never have another sexual relationship. too much hassle. I‘m fine alone. always have been (it‘s called batteries) and once a man knows you aren‘t going to have sex, they aren‘t going to stick around. which brings me to the question of what they really DO offer? they are afraid to be honest. they lie, lie, lie. we‘ve all been there. they blame their woman for anything and everything. they don‘t do their share around the house, ever. they don‘t run the errands. they don‘t do their share with the kids. but we have to be careful not to bruise their ego. I‘m sorry. I know I‘m bitter. I look forward to my new life. I have no idea if I‘ll ever be able to qualify for a house again and if it‘s a trailer, it‘ll be a cute over-the-top trailer. honestly, I am stunned that men still seem to have so much more power than women.
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Posted: 12/11/2009 4:04 AM |
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| overandout wrote: | I‘m close to my divorce now. as I have been on this roller coaster for the last year, I‘ve really looked closely at men. I recognize how often I go for a man who is ‘strong‘ or even somewhat ‘aggressive‘ sexually. that seems to get me going. but, that same man will be the same way when he gets bored. and boy, do boys get bored! I now realize I will probably never have another sexual relationship. too much hassle. I‘m fine alone. always have been (it‘s called batteries) and once a man knows you aren‘t going to have sex, they aren‘t going to stick around. which brings me to the question of what they really DO offer? they are afraid to be honest. they lie, lie, lie. we‘ve all been there. they blame their woman for anything and everything. they don‘t do their share around the house, ever. they don‘t run the errands. they don‘t do their share with the kids. but we have to be careful not to bruise their ego. I‘m sorry. I know I‘m bitter. I look forward to my new life. I have no idea if I‘ll ever be able to qualify for a house again and if it‘s a trailer, it‘ll be a cute over-the-top trailer. honestly, I am stunned that men still seem to have so much more power than women.
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great post!
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but to be fair... they are good for killing spiders.
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Posted: 12/11/2009 1:07 PM |
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| overandout wrote: | I‘m close to my divorce now. as I have been on this roller coaster for the last year, I‘ve really looked closely at men. I recognize how often I go for a man who is ‘strong‘ or even somewhat ‘aggressive‘ sexually. that seems to get me going. but, that same man will be the same way when he gets bored. and boy, do boys get bored! I now realize I will probably never have another sexual relationship. too much hassle. I‘m fine alone. always have been (it‘s called batteries) and once a man knows you aren‘t going to have sex, they aren‘t going to stick around. which brings me to the question of what they really DO offer? they are afraid to be honest. they lie, lie, lie. we‘ve all been there. they blame their woman for anything and everything. they don‘t do their share around the house, ever. they don‘t run the errands. they don‘t do their share with the kids. but we have to be careful not to bruise their ego. I‘m sorry. I know I‘m bitter. I look forward to my new life. I have no idea if I‘ll ever be able to qualify for a house again and if it‘s a trailer, it‘ll be a cute over-the-top trailer. honestly, I am stunned that men still seem to have so much more power than women.
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great post!  but to be fair... they are good for killing spiders.
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and putting up the christmas lights....
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Posted: 12/12/2009 12:48 PM |
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overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.

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Posted: 12/12/2009 3:25 PM |
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overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.

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oh shally, I‘ve missed you too! thanks for the note. you‘re right, I‘m not normally this way and I hate that I am right now. we had just gotten into a huge arguement, should have held back on posting maybe. he was yelling at me because I finally got a lawyer. he has seen 4 but didn‘t think I had and go figure: it made him furious. wowie. on to better things: I‘ve been away and now I‘m back and I‘ve missed you and the gang. went to the other site and nobody seems to be posting so I‘m thrilled you found me. I‘ll do better. you are such a sweetie. I have MISSED you.  
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Posted: 12/12/2009 11:58 PM |
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| shally wrote: | overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.

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seriously Shally, your advice is in stark contrast to the avatar you chosen for yourself!
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Posted: 12/13/2009 8:28 AM |
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| lifesabitc wrote: | but to be fair... they are good for killing spiders. |
LOL! I have two cats that are excellent spider killers. All I have to say is “get the bug” and they react immediately.
Overandout, we all have our bitter moments. Men do not have all power. We do actually. Haven’t you ever played the “girl card?”
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Posted: 12/13/2009 11:05 AM |
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There is no reason to buy the whole pig while you can get the sausage free.
I am happy single person.Once couple years ago i hit the rock bottom, emotionally and financially and i came out of it as a winner.
I reallydont want to say i dont want to have wonderful relationship with one, but i dont do out of my way to find one.
my dear friend, hang it there and karma will catch up with everyone, i really didnt believe it for a long time but i saw it happens.
wish you a wonderful peaceful holidays with love
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Posted: 12/13/2009 12:06 PM |
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There is no reason to buy the whole pig while you can get the sausage free. I am happy single person.Once couple years ago i hit the rock bottom, emotionally and financially and i came out of it as a winner. I reallydont want to say i dont want to have wonderful relationship with one, but i dont do out of my way to find one. my dear friend, hang it there and karma will catch up with everyone, i really didnt believe it for a long time but i saw it happens. wish you a wonderful peaceful holidays with love summer
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hi summer. like you, I was always a ‘good single woman‘. I had plenty of earned money, homes and wore great suits for my business I had built from scratch. I was good. had no reason to marry. sadly, that is all upside down now. he has wiped me out finacially. emotionally I am struggling to make my comeback and I know that I‘ll manage. I‘m just afraid. at my age, the only hope I have of getting financial footing is to remarry and that would be abhorrent to me, marrying for finance. otherwise, I‘ll prefer getting my single self back. I just don‘t like this feeling of ‘needing‘ money and knowing the only way to come up with it at my time of life is to find and marry it, which I would never have done before, nor would I now. I‘m just bummed. but, I know I‘ll persevere. appreciate the note so much.
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Posted: 12/13/2009 1:13 PM |
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LOL! I have two cats that are excellent spider killers. All I have to say is “get the bug” and they react immediately.
Overandout, we all have our bitter moments. Men do not have all power. We do actually. Haven’t you ever played the “girl card?” |
"girl card"...i love it! 
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Posted: 12/13/2009 2:04 PM |
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| CaliforniaGirl wrote: | | lifesabitc wrote: | | but to be fair... they are good for killing spiders. |
LOL! I have two cats that are excellent spider killers. All I have to say is “get the bug” and they react immediately. Overandout, we all have our bitter moments. Men do not have all power. We do actually. Haven’t you ever played the “girl card?” |
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I love it too.
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Posted: 12/13/2009 2:48 PM |
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we should start a thread about how many ways we use the girl card 
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There is no reason to buy the whole pig while you can get the sausage free.
I am happy single person.Once couple years ago i hit the rock bottom, emotionally and financially and i came out of it as a winner.
I reallydont want to say i dont want to have wonderful relationship with one, but i dont do out of my way to find one.
my dear friend, hang it there and karma will catch up with everyone, i really didnt believe it for a long time but i saw it happens.
wish you a wonderful peaceful holidays with love
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hi summer. like you, I was always a ‘good single woman‘. I had plenty of earned money, homes and wore great suits for my business I had built from scratch. I was good. had no reason to marry. sadly, that is all upside down now. he has wiped me out finacially. emotionally I am struggling to make my comeback and I know that I‘ll manage. I‘m just afraid. at my age, the only hope I have of getting financial footing is to remarry and that would be abhorrent to me, marrying for finance. otherwise, I‘ll prefer getting my single self back. I just don‘t like this feeling of ‘needing‘ money and knowing the only way to come up with it at my time of life is to find and marry it, which I would never have done before, nor would I now. I‘m just bummed. but, I know I‘ll persevere. appreciate the note so much.
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i dont know why, in my early ages, i only did think that woman is the one marry for money, it has been proven so wrong, man do date or marry woman for just money as well And they do it in a very sneaky way, i have seen so many samples for it too in my life. specially in recent years.
I know the feeling of how to get raped by man emotionally and financially.
Dear over, you are in your prime age, there are so many ladies that i know , they start over even in more muture age. and i think it is perfectly fine to get married for money,( i changed my mind after my exprince lol) There is nothing wrong finding a finanically secure man, i have been with loser and i cannot effort to have any in the future.
lot of hugs to you and wish you peaceful holidays .
peace
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| shally wrote: | overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.

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seriously Shally, your advice is in stark contrast to the avatar you chosen for yourself!
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Huh?
What does my avatar have to do with how I respond to overandout?
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| shally wrote: | overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.
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oh shally, I‘ve missed you too! thanks for the note. you‘re right, I‘m not normally this way and I hate that I am right now. we had just gotten into a huge arguement, should have held back on posting maybe. he was yelling at me because I finally got a lawyer. he has seen 4 but didn‘t think I had and go figure: it made him furious. wowie. on to better things: I‘ve been away and now I‘m back and I‘ve missed you and the gang. went to the other site and nobody seems to be posting so I‘m thrilled you found me. I‘ll do better. you are such a sweetie. I have MISSED you.  
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Don‘t you dare hold back posting! EVER! It‘s good for the soul to get it out. To be honest about what you are feeling. It‘s all part of the process of healing.
I love that you are at peace with yourself and don‘t ‘need‘ a man in your life. Finding peace in yourself and being comfortable with yourself is truly a freeing feeling. I really do believe that we women run into problems when we live our lives for a man or feel we aren‘t whole without one. Men are a desire, a want. Never intended to be a need. When a man becomes a need we become needy and that to me isn‘t a very pretty sight.
I‘ve missed you too and am so glad you are back!
As to ‘over there‘ - check in chat in the evenings, someone is most always on. :) 
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| overandout wrote: | | shally wrote: | overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.
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oh shally, I‘ve missed you too! thanks for the note. you‘re right, I‘m not normally this way and I hate that I am right now. we had just gotten into a huge arguement, should have held back on posting maybe. he was yelling at me because I finally got a lawyer. he has seen 4 but didn‘t think I had and go figure: it made him furious. wowie. on to better things: I‘ve been away and now I‘m back and I‘ve missed you and the gang. went to the other site and nobody seems to be posting so I‘m thrilled you found me. I‘ll do better. you are such a sweetie. I have MISSED you.   |
Don‘t you dare hold back posting! EVER! It‘s good for the soul to get it out. To be honest about what you are feeling. It‘s all part of the process of healing.
I love that you are at peace with yourself and don‘t ‘need‘ a man in your life. Finding peace in yourself and being comfortable with yourself is truly a freeing feeling. I really do believe that we women run into problems when we live our lives for a man or feel we aren‘t whole without one. Men are a desire, a want. Never intended to be a need. When a man becomes a need we become needy and that to me isn‘t a very pretty sight.
I‘ve missed you too and am so glad you are back!
As to ‘over there‘ - check in chat in the evenings, someone is most always on. :) 
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yeah, I saw that you were hanging out too. hate it that we missed each other. my parents‘ wedding anniversary was dec24. my mom passed 6 years ago. they had an incredible love. dad didn‘t do well. he just passed last t‘giving. I put his ashes with hers on dec 24, in a blizzard. it‘s been a bit of a rough year. I‘m so grateful to be back in touch with you. too bad we don‘t know when the other is up instead of asleep. I actually decorated my house 2 nites ago, until 3 in the morning. it‘s just timing.
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overandout where the heck have you been? I‘ve missed you!
You don‘t wear bitter well and you know it. It isn‘t who you are. It‘s the pain talking and trust me when I tell you that that pain does lose its ‘rawness‘. Please don‘t allow what he did to define how you think or feel.
There are some amazingly wonderful men out there. Looking for the same things that we are. Just as hurt just as wounded and wondering if there are any honest women out there. I find it sad so many lost and lonely people.
I have a feeling that you won‘t be wearing bitter for long. It isn‘t who you are.

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seriously Shally, your advice is in stark contrast to the avatar you chosen for yourself! |
Huh?
What does my avatar have to do with how I respond to overandout? |
Well Shally the avatar is kind of creepy looking.
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awww quit pickin‘ on my lil goth girl! I lurrve her! 
Seriously if you take all of her make up off she looks just like my daughter did when she was a little girl. Same long beautiful hair. I used to use pink sponge rollers to get it to look like that. Same big blue eyes, button nose and turned up lips. Man, time passes much too quickly. ~sniff~
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yeah, I saw that you were hanging out too. hate it that we missed each other. my parents‘ wedding anniversary was dec24. my mom passed 6 years ago. they had an incredible love. dad didn‘t do well. he just passed last t‘giving. I put his ashes with hers on dec 24, in a blizzard. it‘s been a bit of a rough year. I‘m so grateful to be back in touch with you. too bad we don‘t know when the other is up instead of asleep. I actually decorated my house 2 nites ago, until 3 in the morning. it‘s just timing.
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I have a great idea on how we can know! I‘ll pm you here and let ya know!
I don‘t know why I didn‘t think of it before.
Nothing better than chattin‘ it up with a pal!
It‘s tough for you right now, and for that I‘m sorry. I could tell you it will get better but who really cares when it‘s today you‘re hurting. Right?
xxxxxx 
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