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I can‘t rememeber what thread I posted it in before, so I will just post it again.

Check out the following (Author talking to "Kevin" in Book I of Michelle Langley‘s WOMEN‘S INFIDELITY)

CLIP:
Even though many women claim they want to be with men
who are open and honest, because of their own problems with
intimacy, they often form relationships with men who are emotionally
inaccessible. Instead of choosing men who are interested
in developing a relationship, these women choose men who make
them feel insecure. Insecurity can create motivation and excitement.
Women who seek excitement in their marriages (and many
do) will often forego the possibility of real relationships for the
excitement of fantasy relationships.
Women fall in love quickly, whereas men fall in love slowly,
over a longer period of time. Women decide rather quickly—sometimes
instantly—whether or not a man is “the guy.” The men who
are christened Mr. Right may not even know that they have been chosen.
When it comes to marriage, women are conditioned to believe
that men are the “choosers,” while they are the ones waiting
to be chosen. This makes them more inclined to go after men who
are unattainable or unavailable, so they can remain excited for an
indefinite period of time. Females want the excitement to last, and
for them it does last—until after they have a commitment. However,
once they accomplish their goal, the feeling of excitement
goes away, which is very disappointing because the excitement
was what they wanted and they thought it would last.
It’s not uncommon for women to pine for men who shy away
from commitment, while they shun the attention given to them by
men who are willing and ready to make a commitment. Males
have similar feelings prior to having sex with females. If females
were taught to believe that males wanted to get married, they
wouldn’t be challenged or excited about getting men to marry
them.
Unfortunately for men, women tend to end their relationships
in the same way they start them, without men ever being the wiser.
A man may not be aware that a woman has chosen him to be “Mr.
Right,” and he may be equally unaware when she decides he is no
longer “Mr. Right.” When a woman says that she is leaving a relationship,
there is usually nothing the man can do to stop her, because
she has already made her decision. She may give numerous
reasons why she is leaving; however, she is not interested in working
on the relationship. She already has another “Mr. Right” picked
out or is eager to find one. She is looking for the feeling of excitement
again.

CLIP:
My whole life revolves around trying to make Tracey happy.
No matter what I do, nothing seems to work.

That’s because you’re doing the opposite of what she wants
you to do. Many women resort to extreme measures to get their
husbands to leave them, but it doesn’t always work. Inadvertently,
couples get caught in a painful, ugly game of tag that can go on for
years. A man’s fear combined with his image of his wife blinds
him to what his wife is really trying to do.
Many people use this technique to end their relationships. It’s
not uncommon for a man to treat a woman badly in order to get
rid of her. If that doesn’t work, he consciously or subconsciously
tries to get caught cheating so his wife or girlfriend will end the
relationship.

Do you really think that’s what Tracey is trying to do?

You said Tracey wants the two of you to separate. Did she say
for how long? Does she want to separate for a short time? Is she
talking about getting an apartment?

She mentioned getting an apartment.

Is she planning to take the kids with her?

No, right now she says she just needs to get away for a while
and sort things out.

I’ve heard this scenario before. The woman gets an apartment
so the kids don’t have to be uprooted while she tries out her boyfriend
on a more regular basis. I once talked with a man whose
wife got an apartment. She rarely visited him or their kids. After
three years of separation he still believed that his wife would come
back, and that she was sincere when she said, “I’m just trying to
find myself.” He never once considered that his wife was having
an affair. And, like most of the men I talked to, he thought he was
solely to blame for his wife leaving. He regularly beat himself up
for the things that he thought he had done wrong in the marriage.
One night his wife came by to see the kids. While she was there
she asked him why he hadn’t yet filed for a divorce. She told him
that she was never coming back, because she was seeing someone
else. Then she described having had sex with another man in
their bedroom while they were still living together. He was shocked
and asked her how she could do this to him. She laughed and
asked, “How could you be so stupid not to know?”
After they divorced, he found out that his ex-wife intentionally
tried to provoke him into hitting her that night, because she was
afraid that abandoning her kids for three years might have jeopardized
her chances of gaining custody.

Why did she want custody? It doesn’t sound like she really
cared whether or not she spent time with her kids.

Probably several reasons. First, she had established a new relationship
so she didn’t need as much freedom as when she was
trying to find and cultivate one. She also made considerably more
money than he did and didn’t want to pay child support. Having
custody also gave her a measure of control. To this day, she never
has the kids ready when he is scheduled to pick them up, but he’s
afraid to take legal action. He doesn’t have the money she has and
thinks the courts always favor the mother.

How often do women provoke men to hit them in order to
get what they want in a divorce?

A few women I talked with admitted to that. But they knew
that the men they intentionally provoked would never have hurt
them. They did it to enhance their advantage in the divorce. However,
some women try to provoke their husbands as a means of
justifying their own behavior.
At least one man I interviewed saw through his wife’s behavior.
After 15 years of marriage, she announced one day that she
had met her “soul mate” and told him that she wanted him to
move out of their house.

Did he do it?

No, that’s what’s so funny. He told her that if she wasn’t happy,
she should move out, because he wasn’t leaving his kids. She said,
“Okay, but you need to know that my boyfriend will be here on
Tuesdays and Thursdays, so I don’t want you to come home on
those days.”

You’re kidding.

It gets worse. Obviously, the wife thought that he would leave
rather than accept her conditions. One morning about a month
later his wife walked into the kitchen and noticed that he had tears
in his eyes. She looked at him and said, “God, Dan, get over it.
Quit being so pathetic.” He couldn’t believe how cold and insensitive
she was. He was blown away by the whole thing, but fortunately
he knew his rights as a parent and homeowner.

What happened? What did he do?

He agreed not to come home on Tuesdays and Thursdays. He
spent those nights at his brother’s house. But one Tuesday morning,
he called and told his wife that he needed to stop by after
work and pick up something he’d forgotten. He wanted to give her
ample warning that he was going to be there for a couple of minutes
on one of his banished days. When he got there, candles
were lit all over the house and his wife was wearing a teddy.

Did she want to have sex with him?

No. She told him to hurry up and get what he needed and get
out, because her boyfriend was on his way over. She started taunting
him about her impending evening. He had a feeling she was
baiting him, that she wanted him to do something. He’d had that
feeling more than once while they were still living together, but on
this particular night he was sure that she was trying to provoke
him.

Was she successful?

No. He didn’t do anything. But he wound up getting the house
and joint custody, which is rare if my interviews are a fair indication.
He was lucky, though. His wife told him what she was doing.
In the majority of the stories I’ve heard, the men were oblivious to
their wives’ affairs until after the marriages ended. He was spared
the additional pain of living in limbo for one or more years, as
many people do. However, some women I interviewed did leave
their marriages rather abruptly.

Do women ever stop being angry? Once men start doing everything
women want them to do, can they let it go?

Yes, but some women may not think it’s enough for their husbands
to start helping with the chores. Some women may not be
happy unless their husbands are struggling and are angry about
helping with the chores.

So, they want their husbands to see how miserable their lives
were because of all of the work they had to do.

Right, if men aren’t miserable doing the work, women feel as
though they had no reason to be miserable.

But even if men anguish over the work, women still get angry.
Men can’t win. They’re damned if they do and damned if they
don’t.

I know, in some cases they are. One day when one of my
friends was complaining about her husband, I asked her, “Would
you like to be married to you?” She looked surprised and after
several seconds said, “No, I wouldn’t.”
I didn’t have to ask her why, because I already knew the answer.
My friend, just like many other women, wouldn’t put up
with the things that her husband puts up with. Anger is a big problem
for many women, and it doesn’t matter how men treat them or
what men do for them, they’re still going to be angry.
Remember the passage I read to you from Divorced Dads about
how divorced men tend to recover from their anger sooner than
women do?

Even though men usually get screwed in the divorce.

Good, you do remember. Women may stay angry for several
reasons. One is to protect themselves from future pain. Another,
whether justified or not, is to punish their husbands. Unfortunately,
many men are willing to accept a woman’s anger indefinitely, either
because they are afraid of losing their wife, or they feel guilty
for how they treated her, or both. Due to fear and guilt, a man will
often take total blame for the marriage not working out. His willingness
to accept full responsibility alleviates the need for his wife
to take any responsibility for the failure of the marriage.
Some women also use anger to manipulate men. It’s the whoever-
gets-the-angriest-wins game. Anger is a defense mechanism.
People, just like animals, use displays of anger to ward off attacks.
Women use anger to intimidate men.
The first time a woman gets really mad and lashes out at her
husband, she’s likely to find out something she didn’t know before:
her husband is afraid of her.

<WRONG - the husband is afraid of the GOVERNMENT, and those who have "authority" to punish him for doing what a man should be doing, slapping the SHIT out of an uncontrolled woman. This is one of the *many* places in Book I where she has her head firmly up her ass, though the rest of the exchange is pretty spot on - Drew>

Angry people not only spur those
around them to walk on eggshells, they motivate them to do exactly
what the angry person wants them to do. Some women stay
angry long after divorcing their husbands because, as long as they’re
angry and their ex-husbands feel guilty, they’ve got power over
them and can feel justified, regardless of the men’s behavior.
Though it usually takes a long time, men do eventually stop
feeling guilty. That can trigger a new wave of anger in women.
When men finally move on, they no longer care that their exwives
are angry. In fact, many rarely think about their ex-wives at
all. This can be a deflating time for a woman, because the intensity
and duration of her husband’s grief may have caused her to start
viewing herself as a pretty hot commodity. When the ex moves
on, her self-image may change. She not only loses the power she
once had over her ex-husband, she loses her imagined title of “most
desirable.” It can be devastating for a woman to realize that her
husband’s grief had nothing to do with her; it had to do with his
dependency on her. Ironically, this may have been why she wanted
out of the marriage in the first place.

What do you mean by that?

Some women think their husbands care less about them than
they do about all the services they perform. They feel as though
their husbands know them only in the role of wife—not as individuals.

But that’s not the man’s fault. Men can’t get their wives out of
the wife role, not even for a minute.

That’s because women think they have too much to do. They
don’t have time to step out of the role.

Why do women make everything so important? They create
their own problems. Women act as though an unmade bed is a
tragedy. I know women who won’t leave the house on the weekend
unless all the laundry is done and the floors are clean enough
to eat off of—I mean, come on, who cares?

They do.

But why?

Working women can’t accomplish all the things that were expected
of women in the past, but they still feel pressured to meet
that standard.

But it’s pressure they put on themselves.

You’re right. They do pressure themselves, but you’ve got to
understand, it’s because they’re afraid. Men often share a similar
fear. Many men today who have lost their role as sole provider feel
an absence of purpose. As a culture, we’ve been conditioned to
believe that the only way to ensure another person’s love is to be
needed by that person. The same is true for women. Many of those
who profess an eagerness to give up their domestic role continue
to perform traditional tasks for fear that without them they will no
longer be needed and loved. It’s a catch-22.
Many women resist the expectations associated with being a
wife. Those expectations not only seem unfair to women, they are
unachievable in many cases. Women want their husbands to help
because they often can’t do it all, but a part of them feels like
getting everything done is their responsibility. When household
tasks are neglected, they feel they aren’t doing their job and their
self-esteem suffers. This is one reason why so many women are
unhappy. Sometimes married women think their only choices are
do it all and be bitter, or refuse to do it all and feel like a failure.
Since neither choice is acceptable, a lot of women see divorce as
an answer to the conflict.

So, it’s a lose-lose situation for men, because women are in
conflict with themselves.

You’re absolutely right. That’s why some of the women I interviewed
said that life was easier without their husbands—even if
they’d had helpful husbands. They no longer felt responsible for
taking care of their husbands.

Excerpts from "Women‘s Infidelity II: Breaking out of Limbo".

In Book II, the author is talking to "Sondra" who is currently cheating on her husband "Brad".



Page 7-14

Why don’t we start by catching up? Bring me up to date on your situation. The last time we spoke about this you had become attracted to a man who had recently started working for your company. Have you become involved with him? Is he the reason you asked your husband to move out?

Yes, I have become involved with him. I believe when we spoke about this last, I had just kissed Curt [Curt is the man Sondra is having an affair with] for the first time. We went out for a drink one night after work and that’s when it happened.

That was a little over a year ago, right?

Yes…it was just over a year ago. What happened after that?

Nothing at first, we just started talking more, but about a month later we had sex. We’ve been pretty involved ever since. Brad [Brad is Sondra’s Husband] has known that there’s something wrong, but he has no idea what’s really going on. He moved out six weeks ago in order to give me some time to work things out in my head.

What does he think you’re trying to work out?

I don’t know, he probably just thinks I’m just confused about life in general.

Is that what you’ve been leading him to believe?

Yes, I guess I have been leading him to believe that. I certainly haven’t alluded to the fact that there is someone else. Although, I don’t know how he can think that there isn’t.

Has he asked you if there is another man?

Yes he has asked me. But I’ve denied it.

Well, that’s why he thinks there isn’t another man. He believes what you’re telling him because he wants to believe that you’re telling him the truth.

I know, but it just seems like at some point he would catch on.

Is that what you want? Do you want him to catch on?

I don’t know, maybe that’s what I wanted to happen. I just can’t believe that he still thinks that that’s not what’s really going on. Why would I be so confused and want him to move out, if there wasn’t someone else? If I was confused about anything other than another man, I would be talking to him about what I’m confused about. I wouldn’t have been just saying, “I’m not happy” for the last year. I would have told him exactly what I was unhappy about.

Okay, well let’s go ahead and move on. I have to warn you though most women who contact me for information don’t make it very far in the conversation. So, I just want to let you know up-front that for the next several hours, you’re going to be pretty uncomfortable because we’re going to be discussing your situation in a way that you’re probably not accustomed to. Typically, women in limbo are seeking reassurance about what they’re doing. In other words, they’re not looking for advice about how to change their situation; they’re looking for someone to tell them that what they’re doing is okay or that it’s, at least, justifiable. When people seek advice, they usually seek it from people who will tell them what they want to hear and this is not just a cliché. In Stumbling on Happiness the author says, “…we derive support for our preferred conclusions by listening to the words that we put in the mouths of people who have already been pre-selected for their willingness to say what we want to hear.”1 This is a natural behavior for both men and women and the only reason I’m bringing it up is it’s likely that I won’t be telling you anything you want to hear. Your previous conversations about this situation have probably ended when you got to the point where what you’re really doing is about to sink in or when the conversation got too close to the truth. In the past you may have either stopped talking or tried to change the subject at that point in your conversations. In fact, even when you were alone and just thinking about your situation you probably forced yourself to stop thinking about it and changed the subject in your mind, so to speak, when you got too close to the truth.

Yes, I have done that because I feel completely overwhelmed by everything that’s happening.

Yes, I imagine you’ve been talking and thinking about this for more than a year now and yet there’s been no change in your situation – you’re still in limbo.

Yes, you’re right…I have been. And yes, I’m still very much in limbo.

The reason you’ve been so frustrated and in so much pain is because prior to today you already knew, deep down, that every conversation you had about this was going to lead nowhere, because you weren’t going to allow it to…

I never consciously thought of that before, but I think it’s probably true.

I’ve found that women often don’t want to fix the problem – they just want to talk about it. I’ve also found that women often pretend to get offended and become emotionally volatile in order to prevent others from telling them the truth. They actually want others to fear their reaction. So I want to let you know up front that a) I’m not going to sugarcoat the truth in any way, I plan to be very direct during our conversation, and b ) your reactions to what I say aren’t going to change that fact. Therefore, I’m assuming that you’re serious about resolving this problem and that you’re prepared to speak very candidly.

Yes, I do want to solve this problem otherwise I wouldn’t be here. At this point, I just want my life to get back to normal.

That’s something quite common for people in your situation to say. The first question I have for you is this: if you’re still so confused about what you want why did you ask your husband to move out of the house and why are you still spending time with your boyfriend?

I wanted to separate because I didn’t know what I wanted and I still don’t.

If you don’t know what you want though, isn’t that a pretty drastic measure to take at this point?

Yes it is, but I didn’t know what else to do. I wanted to separate because I was confused about what I wanted and I felt like I needed to find myself.

What have you discovered so far, other than the fact that sex is intoxicating with a new man, especially a new man under these circumstances?

Well, I can tell already that this is going to be fun. Although I hate to admit it, in all honesty I really haven’t learned much other than that so far.

The first thing you need to do is get clear about what you’re really doing. Most women in limbo typically believe that their situation, and consequently their “confusion,” is unique. The truth is this is just one more similarity that women in limbo share. Women in limbo are confused about what they want, primarily because they’re in denial about what they’re doing. So, what I want to do now is give you an outside perspective. I’m going to do that by reading an email from a woman who is in a situation very similar to yours. She writes:

So, what do you think? After hearing this woman’s email, do you think she’s confused?

Yes, she sounds just like me. I would definitely say that she’s confused.

Really? This woman is not only separated from her husband, but she’s also living with her boyfriend. She’s says she’s confused, just like you. But her actions, like your actions, are saying something else entirely.

What the two of you are doing would be similar to someone quitting their job and after working six months to a year for another company continuing to spend all of their time thinking and saying, “I’m really confused; I don’t know if I want to quit my old job and get a new job or not.” The decision to quit their old job, as well as the decision to get a new job has already been made. So although the individual may regret having made these decisions, the fact remains that they have already quit their old job and are currently working for a new company.

But Brad and I are still married, nothing’s been finalized yet.

Actions speak louder than words, Sondra. If someone’s words and behavior aren’t matching up, it’s wise to pay attention to what they do and not what they say. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, you’ve already quit being Brad’s wife. In fact, you quit being his wife a long time ago. Women can be very delusional in this regard. They seem to think they can sleep with, and sometimes even live with, another man and then later, get back together with their husbands and live happily-ever-after.

For example, one man I interviewed told me that in court on the day of his divorce his wife said to him, “I know we’ll get back together someday.” This was the same woman who, after a two year separation, falsely accused him of molesting their daughter. She accused him of this when he started seeing a new woman after being separated for nine months. Now, bear in mind, she left him for another man and she had been living with that same man ever since she left. There wasn’t any chance that these two were ever going to get back together, but his wife still continued to believe that she had a decision to make. She had already made countless decisions along the way (which all led her away from a life with her husband) and had no decisions left to make.

So you see, women often say they’re confused and unable to make a decision about whether they should stay married or get divorced. This is because many women mistakenly believe that they have a single decision to make – a decision to stay married or get divorced and they assume that they will make this decision in the future. However, what you and many other women don’t realize is, there isn’t any “big” future decision to make. You’re already making decisions – you’ve been making decisions all along. And so far, all of those decisions are moving you away from a life with your husband. Right now you have not only separated from your husband, but you‘re also very much involved with another man.

Life is a process of continuous choice making. We’re continuously making choices every day. Yet, as I pointed out in Women’s Infidelity, most people still seem to believe that a single decision or event can either ensure or destroy their chances for happiness in the future. By the time a woman starts contemplating separation or divorce she should already know this isn’t true. After all, don’t most women want to get married because prior to marriage they believe that this one event will guarantee them a lifetime of happiness?

But don’t you think that’s why women take so long to decide whether or not to divorce; it’s because they don’t want to fall for the same happily-ever-after crap all over again.

Yes, but the truth is it doesn’t matter what man you choose or what job you choose or where you choose to live. The only thing you need to understand is that none of these things, or anything else for that matter, will create the “happily-ever-after” feeling that you’re striving for.

But that sounds so depressing. What’s the point, then?

Well, you have to see the flip side. If nothing can ensure your happiness, then nothing can destroy it either. Your ability to understand this is crucial. If you want to get out of limbo, you have to understand that this decision, like every other decision, will not make or break your life. However, for the time being, I don’t want you to think about making a decision. I don’t want you to think about what you’re going to do. I simply want you to focus your attention on what you are doing because that will allow you to determine if you’ve already made a decision.

Well, I certainly know that I haven’t made a decision yet.

I understand that that’s what you believe, but again, all of your decisions so far have been leading you away from a life with your husband and in order to get clarity, we can’t sidestep that fact. We also can’t sidestep several other facts either. For instance, you need to acknowledge the fact that you asked your husband to move out of the house because you met a man that you were attracted to at work. Additionally, you should accept the fact that your husband would do anything that you asked him to do and that the only reason your needs were not being met in your marriage is that you never told him exactly what those needs were.

I agree with what you’re saying, but let’s not make Brad out to be some kind of saint. You and I both know that he’s not. From the beginning, I waited on that man hand and foot. Brad wouldn’t do anything for himself and after we got married it was the same thing.

So, why exactly did you love Brad so much and want to spend the rest of your life with him?

I know what you’re doing…you are trying to turn this around on me.

No, I’m trying to make you see that you’re not an innocent victim. You not only created the life that you had with Brad, but you went after that life with a vengeance. You waited on Brad hand and foot because you wanted something from him – marriage. So let’s not pretend that you were being selfless or loving. You wanted something from Brad and you were willing to do whatever it took to get it. Brad was a pretty hot commodity when you married him and you wanted to be the one to win the prize.

You’re right, I did.

Women love a challenge just like men do and you found Brad to be a challenge; therefore, you were willing to modify your behavior to get him. So the life you had with Brad was created by your own design. However, after closing the deal and winning the prize, you, like the majority of women who pretend to be something they’re not in order to get “the guy” had to make a decision. Here the decision was to either come clean and feel like a fraud for luring your husband in under false pretenses or subvert your desires and hope that one day your husband would just figure out what your needs were on his own. Unfortunately, like most men, your husband didn’t know he was playing a guessing game so he wasn’t even trying to guess what you wanted. He thought he knew what you wanted. He thought you wanted to marry him. He thought you wanted to be his wife and do all of the things you had done in the past – both prior to getting married and during the beginning of your marriage.

Okay, so all of this is my fault, right?

Sondra, now you’re trying to pull the “poor me” card. That won’t get you anywhere.

But I feel like you think this is all my fault and I don’t believe that that’s true.

Many women have a really hard time taking responsibility for their actions because they’ve been conditioned to believe that they’re innately good. Most of the time, they don’t even have to make excuses for their bad behavior because society has always been eager to makes excuses for them. This is one of women’s greatest stumbling blocks to happiness because it allows women to believe that their happiness is contingent upon the behaviors and actions of others as opposed to something that they alone control.

One of the more amazing exchanges between the author and "Sondra" in Book II, from page 36-37

Women constantly say to me that they can’t tell their husbands the truth because they don’t want to hurt their husbands; but the truth is they don’t want to lose the power they have over their husbands. Most women know full well that their power lies in their image. So not telling the truth is simply their way of remaining in control and maintaining their special privileges. (Is it me, or did that sound like it was ripped *directly* from a Mandoat post?!?! -GRUDGE)

Unfortunately, this is a no-win situation. Women lose respect and desire for their husbands when they’re able to deceive and manipulate them. For instance, you see your husband as a child who needs to be protected because you think he can’t cope with the truth of who you really are and of what you’re really capable. Yet, maintaining the illusion of who you are feels false to you because it makes you feel like a child.

Yes, that’s exactly how I feel. How can I feel close to someone who doesn’t even know me?

Or to someone who you believe would stop loving you if they did?

Yes, I do think he would stop loving me if he knew the truth. I think he needs to believe that women are all sweet and innocent.

This is what ultimately can kill a woman’s attraction to a man. Many women have begun to realize that they’re playing a role and many want to drop the role, but they don’t think men will be able to handle it. Women are afraid that men will either reject them (Read: withdraw their support, protection and resources. - GRUDGE) if they drop the act or stay with them and become terribly insecure. (Read: justifiably paranoid - GRUDGE)

So they believe it’s a loselose situation. They either get dumped or…

Or, they’re stuck living with an insecure man which is just as bad.

Right.

I would love for the man I’m with to know the truth. I want a man to know that if I’m not happy, I’ll move on. I also want a man to know how important sex is to me and that if I’m not sexually satisfied, I’ll get sexually satisfied somewhere else. But men don’t get that and I don’t see why. Why would we need to say it? Shouldn’t this just be obvious? (The only thing obvious is that she‘s a spoiled, backstabbing, slut. Note how she DOES NOT mention the most obvious win-win reaction, simply ASK her man for what she wants. - GRUDGE)

You’re acting as if it’s men’s fault for believing women’s lies. Women seem to want men to see through their deception and manipulation, but wouldn’t it be just as easy for women to stop being deceptive and manipulative?

But how can we if men can’t handle it?

Trust me, men can handle it. Advertisers and the media have convinced each sex of the illusion that they have to be someone other than who they are to attract the other sex but it’s ridiculous because nature has already deemed it to be so. Men and women are attracted to each other – that’s just the way it is. Believing otherwise is a result of being raised in a consumer society which only thrives by creating imaginary desires and insecurities

There is a lot of truth in this.  It‘s a shame it‘s such a lengthy post; most people won‘t bother to read it.

Well, there‘s always Tom Leykis but his views are likely too sanctimonious for most feminine seekers to handle.

Well I don‘t know about you Nik...but I love my vagina!! I wash it, and powder it, sometimes perfume it, and definitely trim it....it means alot to me. I want to love it, and nuture it, and keep it healthy as long as I can!! I LOVE MY VAGINA!! I am proud to call myself part of TEAM VAGINA....I feel pity for this asshole instead of anger, because I think he would secretly like to have one.

AWWWWWW.....poor poor Drew....

"Just between you and me, in any decently run universe, this guy would‘ve been out on his ass a long time ago.  And by the way, I say this guy because I firmly believe looking at these results that if there is a God it has to be a man.  No woman could or would ever FUCK things up like this." 

George Carlin-You are all diseased.

Boy, exposing nitpicking and posting excerpts from Michelle Langley‘s book which indicts a lot of women really struck a nerve didn‘t it? What‘s wrong? Don‘t like having bad female behavior shoved in your face?

  Don‘t make me waste a good beer out my nose my vaginal sista‘!!  ROFLMAO!!  

So basically Drew‘s team is using Preperation H to maintain optimal asshole health!  

Bad Eves!!  HAHAHAHA!!!  Pussy Envy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK_0bG80vmU

no **** sherlock! how old are you again?

This makes them more inclined to go after men who
are unattainable or unavailable, so they can remain excited for an
indefinite period of time. Females want the excitement to last, and
for them it does last—until after they have a commitment. However,
once they accomplish their goal, the feeling of excitement
goes away, which is very disappointing because the excitement
was what they wanted and they thought it would last.
It’s not uncommon for women to pine for men who shy away
from commitment, while they shun the attention given to them by
men who are willing and ready to make a commitment

Sorry about the beer girlfriend....and thank you for becoming one with your PUSSY as well.....

Love Ya,

Eves