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Posted: 12/7/2009 8:59 PM |
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He‘s not perfect, but he‘s under no illusion that he is and he‘s under no illusion that I am.
He‘s honest, kind, caring. He‘s funny, intelligent and comfortable in himself. He needs his space and he gives me mine. He‘s got things he wants to do in his life besides being in a relationship and he respects that in me. He doesn‘t have any agenda for our relationship, we are just going with the flow. He is a calming influence on me, sometimes with me its all about "fighting for the cause" and he grounds me when I get too het up about stuff. We disagree on lots of political and social issues but he always listens and tries to see my point of view. He doesn‘t buy romantic gifts instead he buys thoughtful gifts that he knows I need, but he knows I love my garden and has planted apple trees there especially for me. He also spent a considerable amount of time looking for a particular chair I said I liked once while we were looking at a travel book. I trust him, not just with being faithful, but with everything, he has seen me at my weakest and most vulnerable and has handled it all with care and tenderness. He does not take any crap from me when I get moody and moany, He‘s not afraid to disagree with me. He doesn‘t call me every day and he doesn‘t feel anxious because I don‘t call...he‘s got stuff to do...so have I! Being affectionate comes naturally to him, and he loves the way I kiss his forehead in a certain spot. He treats everyone he meets with respect and kindness and perhaps the only complaint that I can make is that he‘s almost too ready to help others and sometimes doesn‘t leave enough time for himself just to chill out.
In other words, a nice guy is someone who holds a relationship lightly, doesn‘t cling on to it like its going to fly away! its not the be all and end all...its important, but so are other things.
I‘m his best friend, but that took time, he didn‘t try to make me "the one" from day one.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:20 AM |
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I answered this once and it got me in a whole lot of trouble. That was a few years ago so let‘s see what happens this time around.
A good guy is willing to listen without interupting and offering advice.
A good guy understands that it is not always a 50/50 relationship. Somedays you may have to give 90%
A good guy knows how to admit he was wrong and apologize.
A good guy will share in household chores like cooking and cleaning.
A good guy will know when to take his partner out for some fun and relaxation.
A good guy will give an hour long body massage without expecting sex in return.
A good guy will always satisfy his partner before he satisfies himself.
A good guy will occaisionally set the dinner table, light the candles, and play some nice music.
A good guy is not embarassed to open your door and to help you with your coat.
A good guy occaisionally shows up with a Starbucks or pint of ice cream or some other simple gift to say he cares for you.
A good guy knows and practices the 10 commandments and they include lieing, cheating and stealing.
A good guy knows how to forgive and forget.
One last thing, I did not say I am this guy. I only post this because I know and understand these things to be true. It is often very difficult to do all these things. However knowing them to begin with is a good start.
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This is funny, but also very true for many women. You ladies should really give the average or even below average guys a chance. Who knows, you may like what you find. Hunks like Brad Pitt may seem like great catches at first, but they will only hurt you in the end. Why you ask? It‘s really very simple, because they can. It‘s sad, but true. Don‘t believe me? Just ask Jennifer Aniston. As you probably know, Brad cheated on her while they were married with Angelina Jolie. He then left her. Poor Jennifer was heartbroken. She also dated pretty boy crooner John Mayer who also left her emotionally crushed. Take heed ladies, don‘t let this happen to you. You really deserve better. Don‘t you agree? No, I‘m not a bitter man. I‘m just giving you some sage advice.
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Posted: 1/5/2010 10:58 PM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: | A good guy understands that it is not always a 50/50 relationship. Somedays you may have to give 90% |
I fully agree with everything else, but this has left me confused. Under what circumstances is it ever appropriate to expect someone to go more than halfway?
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Posted: 1/6/2010 3:03 AM |
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| Wire wrote: |
| Uncle Don wrote: |
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A good guy understands that it is not always a 50/50 relationship. Somedays you may have to give 90% |
I fully agree with everything else, but this has left me confused. Under what circumstances is it ever appropriate to expect someone to go more than halfway? |
When my wife broke her right ankle and had a steel plate, 6 screws and one long one thru the ankle. She was on the couch for 2 weeks straight. No cooking, dishes, laundry, housework, shopping, walk the dog, drive the girls, could not bathe herself. Once she could hobble I 1st carried her to bed, helped her dress and undress. Since she did the paperwork and books for our small business I had to pick that up since she could not drive. This went on for 2 months.
Sometimes, we have to do more than what we ever thought possible. And all the while try not to fall behind on our own duties.
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Posted: 1/6/2010 4:46 AM |
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i‘d say that a good man is not one that gets a girl preggers while he‘s married. causing her to place a baby bootie in his suitcase in order to make his poor pregnant wife aware of his deceit.
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| malarkey marie wrote: | i‘d say that a good man is not one that gets a girl preggers while he‘s married. causing her to place a baby bootie in his suitcase in order to make his poor pregnant wife aware of his deceit.
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I believe the question is
What do believe to be a goodguy?
Your quote would be under the bad boy thread.
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Posted: 1/7/2010 12:25 AM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: |
| Wire wrote: |
| Uncle Don wrote: |
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A good guy understands that it is not always a 50/50 relationship. Somedays you may have to give 90% |
I fully agree with everything else, but this has left me confused. Under what circumstances is it ever appropriate to expect someone to go more than halfway? |
When my wife broke her right ankle and had a steel plate, 6 screws and one long one thru the ankle. She was on the couch for 2 weeks straight. No cooking, dishes, laundry, housework, shopping, walk the dog, drive the girls, could not bathe herself. Once she could hobble I 1st carried her to bed, helped her dress and undress. Since she did the paperwork and books for our small business I had to pick that up since she could not drive. This went on for 2 months.
Sometimes, we have to do more than what we ever thought possible. And all the while try not to fall behind on our own duties. |
Ah, well now that makes perfect sense. Kudos to you, good sir.
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Posted: 1/10/2010 2:06 PM |
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Bublecropper:
"He‘s not perfect, but he‘s under no illusion that he is and he‘s under no illusion that I am.
He‘s honest, kind, caring. He‘s funny, intelligent and comfortable in himself. He needs his space and he gives me mine. He‘s got things he wants to do in his life besides being in a relationship and he respects that in me. He doesn‘t have any agenda for our relationship, we are just going with the flow. He is a calming influence on me, sometimes with me its all about "fighting for the cause" and he grounds me when I get too het up about stuff. We disagree on lots of political and social issues but he always listens and tries to see my point of view. He doesn‘t buy romantic gifts instead he buys thoughtful gifts that he knows I need, but he knows I love my garden and has planted apple trees there especially for me. He also spent a considerable amount of time looking for a particular chair I said I liked once while we were looking at a travel book. I trust him, not just with being faithful, but with everything, he has seen me at my weakest and most vulnerable and has handled it all with care and tenderness. He does not take any crap from me when I get moody and moany, He‘s not afraid to disagree with me. He doesn‘t call me every day and he doesn‘t feel anxious because I don‘t call...he‘s got stuff to do...so have I! Being affectionate comes naturally to him, and he loves the way I kiss his forehead in a certain spot. He treats everyone he meets with respect and kindness and perhaps the only complaint that I can make is that he‘s almost too ready to help others and sometimes doesn‘t leave enough time for himself just to chill ut.In other words, a nice guy is someone who holds a relationship lightly, doesn‘t cling on to it like its going to fly away! its not the be all and end all...its important, but so are other things.I‘m his best friend, but that took time, he didn‘t try to make me "the one" from day one."
I believe I am your guy bubblecropper. Should I fly to Ireland, or are you coming to Brazil ?
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Posted: 1/11/2010 11:42 AM |
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All depends on who‘s doing the talking, I guess.
Some people mean - a desperate, immature wuss. They‘re "nice" but in a superficial way, like what we used to call a "brownnoser" in school. Identify themselves as victims in life. That superficial niceness has a quick way of becoming petty vengeful behaviour when they don‘t get what they want.
Other people mean - a mature adult who‘s past behaving like a teenager & doesn‘t indulge in petty behaviour. Believes in respect and not in a superficial way like the other sort.
I guess respect is the big difference. The former group doesn‘t really get it ... they can mimic it in their behaviour, but the principle behind it eludes them. In reality, they don‘t respect themselves, and they don‘t respect others. |
Wow! Edgewater you described my STBX to a T.
He was all about being the "nice guy" when I first met him. In fact he had this story he would tell anybody who would listen about how he got his job. It involved the question what are morals? And he just happened to have had that conversation the week before while drinking beer with a buddy.
He was great a "being the victim" his ex wife cheated on him, her child was a spoiled brat etc.
TRUTH: He cheated on her as well. I didn‘t find out until after I had filed for divorce. And no, her child who was 10 wasn‘t a bitch as described by him.
Now, he tells the same kind of lies about me.
The humor in this story is this:
I dated him because I was looking for someone who was NOT a bad boy. I didn‘t go for looks, or a body builder. In fact my husband is missing 3 fingers on his left hand due to a birth defect.
I thought because he wasn‘t a "badboy" type I had found someone who would be honest, faithful etc.
Turns out that I got cheated on by Super Geek Boy. Who yes, was resentful and angry and emotionally and verbally abusive.
Now, the desperate immature wuss has found another one to be a victim for. She is 11 years older than him and has money! He moved in with her 3 months after I filed for divorce. She can be the mommy. Do I warn her? No, it wouldn‘t do any good anyway. It would be a waste of time and it would look like I had some sort of feelings for this pathetic loser.
I could have at least had fun with a bad boy!
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Posted: 1/11/2010 6:19 PM |
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Bublecropper: "He‘s not perfect, but he‘s under no illusion that he is and he‘s under no illusion that I am. He‘s honest, kind, caring. He‘s funny, intelligent and comfortable in himself. He needs his space and he gives me mine. He‘s got things he wants to do in his life besides being in a relationship and he respects that in me. He doesn‘t have any agenda for our relationship, we are just going with the flow. He is a calming influence on me, sometimes with me its all about "fighting for the cause" and he grounds me when I get too het up about stuff. We disagree on lots of political and social issues but he always listens and tries to see my point of view. He doesn‘t buy romantic gifts instead he buys thoughtful gifts that he knows I need, but he knows I love my garden and has planted apple trees there especially for me. He also spent a considerable amount of time looking for a particular chair I said I liked once while we were looking at a travel book. I trust him, not just with being faithful, but with everything, he has seen me at my weakest and most vulnerable and has handled it all with care and tenderness. He does not take any crap from me when I get moody and moany, He‘s not afraid to disagree with me. He doesn‘t call me every day and he doesn‘t feel anxious because I don‘t call...he‘s got stuff to do...so have I! Being affectionate comes naturally to him, and he loves the way I kiss his forehead in a certain spot. He treats everyone he meets with respect and kindness and perhaps the only complaint that I can make is that he‘s almost too ready to help others and sometimes doesn‘t leave enough time for himself just to chill ut.In other words, a nice guy is someone who holds a relationship lightly, doesn‘t cling on to it like its going to fly away! its not the be all and end all...its important, but so are other things.I‘m his best friend, but that took time, he didn‘t try to make me "the one" from day one." I believe I am your guy bubblecropper. Should I fly to Ireland, or are you coming to Brazil ?
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Oh I‘m sorry Africanguy...the job has already been filled, that description was of my partner and now we are having a little baby together later in the year. But, if you are anything like him then you‘ll meet the girl for you some day soon!
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Posted: 1/12/2010 3:36 PM |
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| bubblecropper wrote: |
| Africanguy wrote: | | Bublecropper: "He‘s not perfect, but he‘s under no illusion that he is and he‘s under no illusion that I am. He‘s honest, kind, caring. He‘s funny, intelligent and comfortable in himself. He needs his space and he gives me mine. He‘s got things he wants to do in his life besides being in a relationship and he respects that in me. He doesn‘t have any agenda for our relationship, we are just going with the flow. He is a calming influence on me, sometimes with me its all about "fighting for the cause" and he grounds me when I get too het up about stuff. We disagree on lots of political and social issues but he always listens and tries to see my point of view. He doesn‘t buy romantic gifts instead he buys thoughtful gifts that he knows I need, but he knows I love my garden and has planted apple trees there especially for me. He also spent a considerable amount of time looking for a particular chair I said I liked once while we were looking at a travel book. I trust him, not just with being faithful, but with everything, he has seen me at my weakest and most vulnerable and has handled it all with care and tenderness. He does not take any crap from me when I get moody and moany, He‘s not afraid to disagree with me. He doesn‘t call me every day and he doesn‘t feel anxious because I don‘t call...he‘s got stuff to do...so have I! Being affectionate comes naturally to him, and he loves the way I kiss his forehead in a certain spot. He treats everyone he meets with respect and kindness and perhaps the only complaint that I can make is that he‘s almost too ready to help others and sometimes doesn‘t leave enough time for himself just to chill ut.In other words, a nice guy is someone who holds a relationship lightly, doesn‘t cling on to it like its going to fly away! its not the be all and end all...its important, but so are other things.I‘m his best friend, but that took time, he didn‘t try to make me "the one" from day one." I believe I am your guy bubblecropper. Should I fly to Ireland, or are you coming to Brazil ? |
Oh I‘m sorry Africanguy...the job has already been filled, that description was of my partner and now we are having a little baby together later in the year. But, if you are anything like him then you‘ll meet the girl for you some day soon!
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By the way Africanguy...my partner would never ever speak or write anything disrespectful about women....never in a million years. He‘s respectful and kind to everyone as the description says....you have proved on this forum that you are not, therefore...you are not "my guy" and even if I was single...I was never into misogynists. I do hope you can take something from the example I‘ve given above of a genuinely nice guy and perhaps try to make some improvements in your attitude and angry tendencies...then perhaps you can find the right girl for you.
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Not sure how I found this site, but I did. And then I saw the "Men‘s" section of the forum. And then I found this thread, which compelled me enough to sign up and post one for the guys.
First things first. The customer always lies to you. When McDonald‘s asks their customers what foods they want to see on the menu, the answer is invariably "healthier foods." So McDonald‘s put healthier options on their menu. And then what do the customers order, praytell? Yes, the customer orders the double cheeseburger from the value menu.
The point is this...
If you‘re a guy, NEVER ask women what they want in a man. Because the customer lies. They will tell you that they want A, B, and C in a man. But the truth is that although they want these traits in a man, these are not the traits that THEY RESPOND TO.
Men should be seeking advice about women from OTHER MEN WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN. Not women themselves.
You want to know what women respond to? They respond to JERKS. That‘s right ladies. Nothing new to us seasoned vets. Before you get your panties in a bunch, let me explain what I mean by the term "jerk."
Jerks don‘t call back when they say they will. They don‘t answer your calls/texts on the weekends. They are open about the fact that the two of your aren‘t "exclusive" and that he is dating other (sometimes several) women. Jerks are mysterious and keep you guessing. Jerks are unapologetic about their sexuality and even flaunt it. Jerks will pull you in, and then push you away.
I can go on and on. This behavior is classified as "jerk" behavior by women. But for those of us that know the score, we understand that it is this very behavior to which women respond the most.
So now that I‘ve clarified that point a bit, I want to further clarify the difference between what a woman WANTS and what she is ATTRACTED to. She WANTS a guy that cooks lame spaghetti dinners (yes, I‘ve done that), is "nice" in the classical sense, buys her chocolates and flowers on Valentine‘s Day (b.s. made-up holiday), opens doors for her, etc.
However, women are ATTRACTED to the "jerk." The guy that doesn‘t pick up her calls, or text her back, engages her in pulling her in and then pushing her away, and basically the guy that demonstrates and lives his life with alpha behavior: he‘s the best in his field, motivated, and driven to succeed. Those who exhibit those traits can be classified as jerks because they have the requisite skills to succeed the world.
Let‘s just say it this way: women will hop from crotch to crotch in their twenties and get burned by "jerks," and then will settle down and marry a "nice guy".
Settling. Always a good option for the unambitious woman who realizes their expiration date is quickly approaching.
The truth is, men should be seeking advice about women from men who are actually successful with them. And I can‘t give advice about men to women. Why? Because I‘m not attracted to men. And we all know that men pretty much just want a piece. We‘re hardwired for it. It‘s in our dna.
Stop hatin‘ on us for doing what biology tells us. Ya heard?
Men, I urge you to open your eyes. I was a nice guy once. You know where that got me? Nowhere. People would tell me that I hadn‘t met the right person or whatever b.s. came out of their mouths. I was overshadowed in business teams and was a pushover. I trucked on, built my career, and became a "jerk" (by my definition above) and guess what? I‘m gettin‘ more azz than a toilet seat.
That‘s right! I got sick and tired of being thrown into the friend zone. I would be nice and try to befriend a women that I was attracted to in the hopes that she would see my good qualities and wish to date me (what a maroon I used to be). This would result in the inevitable and fatal classification as the woman‘s "friend." Meanwhile, she‘s going down on the jerk.
And I HATED the jerk. I wondered, "What does she SEE in him???" And then I took the red pill. I opened my eyes, and I saw how far down the rabbit hole went. I was disgusted at first, and resisted. But eventually, the truth emerged and I had to accept it: I had been living my life inside of some matrix and now I understand the truth. And to be honest, it stinks. But that‘s the way it is sonny.
If you are a man, and you are reading this, and if I‘ve described you, then I say this: Leave this site. Get out of the house. Eat right. Hit the gym. Turn off the computer. Get your house (physically and metaphorically speaking) in order. Set goals. Actively pursue them with vigor. Become the alpha, both in mind and stature. BE THE MAN SHE NEEDS YOU TO BE. Women will follow, but only if YOU LEAD THEM. Be a take-charge kinda guy. Women are surrounded by mama boy pussies in this society, and they HATE IT. Don‘t let people walk all over you. Be responsible with your hard-earned dollars. Go to college, get your education, and don‘t even THINK about marrying a woman until your thirties. Make sure you‘re on track to fulfill your life‘s goals. If you haven‘t achieved your goals yet, don‘t get married.
Don‘t have a girlfriend if you‘re under 25. You‘re too young. And you don‘t know what you like in a woman. Don‘t worry. You‘ll have your shot with some of the most young and supple women if you just keep at it and focus on your career. Women are attracted to fame, status, and power. Some guys will say that many women are simply attracted to money, but guys with money usually have fame, status, and/or power in their communities.
That‘s enough. You guys have to digest a lot.
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p.s. I already know what some of the women here will say. They will try to *shame* me and tell me that I‘m probably a sad and pathetic no-puzzy-gettin‘-loser who has no clue about women and lives in his parent‘s basement. It‘s ok. Shaming tactics are about as elementary and ineffectual on me as one can get, so I actually view the *shame tactics* as proving my point.
"Oh yeah? Well you‘re stupid!"
Go ahead ladies. Shame away. Us men are used to it. No skin off my balls!
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Not sure how I found this site, but I did. And then I saw the "Men‘s" section of the forum. And then I found this thread, which compelled me enough to sign up and post one for the guys.
First things first. The customer always lies to you. When McDonald‘s asks their customers what foods they want to see on the menu, the answer is invariably "healthier foods." So McDonald‘s put healthier options on their menu. And then what do the customers order, praytell? Yes, the customer orders the double cheeseburger from the value menu.
The point is this...
If you‘re a guy, NEVER ask women what they want in a man. Because the customer lies. They will tell you that they want A, B, and C in a man. But the truth is that although they want these traits in a man, these are not the traits that THEY RESPOND TO.
Men should be seeking advice about women from OTHER MEN WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN. Not women themselves.
You want to know what women respond to? They respond to JERKS. That‘s right ladies. Nothing new to us seasoned vets. Before you get your panties in a bunch, let me explain what I mean by the term "jerk."
Jerks don‘t call back when they say they will. They don‘t answer your calls/texts on the weekends. They are open about the fact that the two of your aren‘t "exclusive" and that he is dating other (sometimes several) women. Jerks are mysterious and keep you guessing. Jerks are unapologetic about their sexuality and even flaunt it. Jerks will pull you in, and then push you away.
I can go on and on. This behavior is classified as "jerk" behavior by women. But for those of us that know the score, we understand that it is this very behavior to which women respond the most.
So now that I‘ve clarified that point a bit, I want to further clarify the difference between what a woman WANTS and what she is ATTRACTED to. She WANTS a guy that cooks lame spaghetti dinners (yes, I‘ve done that), is "nice" in the classical sense, buys her chocolates and flowers on Valentine‘s Day (b.s. made-up holiday), opens doors for her, etc.
However, women are ATTRACTED to the "jerk." The guy that doesn‘t pick up her calls, or text her back, engages her in pulling her in and then pushing her away, and basically the guy that demonstrates and lives his life with alpha behavior: he‘s the best in his field, motivated, and driven to succeed. Those who exhibit those traits can be classified as jerks because they have the requisite skills to succeed the world.
Let‘s just say it this way: women will hop from crotch to crotch in their twenties and get burned by "jerks," and then will settle down and marry a "nice guy".
Settling. Always a good option for the unambitious woman who realizes their expiration date is quickly approaching.
The truth is, men should be seeking advice about women from men who are actually successful with them. And I can‘t give advice about men to women. Why? Because I‘m not attracted to men. And we all know that men pretty much just want a piece. We‘re hardwired for it. It‘s in our dna.
Stop hatin‘ on us for doing what biology tells us. Ya heard?
Men, I urge you to open your eyes. I was a nice guy once. You know where that got me? Nowhere. People would tell me that I hadn‘t met the right person or whatever b.s. came out of their mouths. I was overshadowed in business teams and was a pushover. I trucked on, built my career, and became a "jerk" (by my definition above) and guess what? I‘m gettin‘ more azz than a toilet seat.
That‘s right! I got sick and tired of being thrown into the friend zone. I would be nice and try to befriend a women that I was attracted to in the hopes that she would see my good qualities and wish to date me (what a maroon I used to be). This would result in the inevitable and fatal classification as the woman‘s "friend." Meanwhile, she‘s going down on the jerk.
And I HATED the jerk. I wondered, "What does she SEE in him???" And then I took the red pill. I opened my eyes, and I saw how far down the rabbit hole went. I was disgusted at first, and resisted. But eventually, the truth emerged and I had to accept it: I had been living my life inside of some matrix and now I understand the truth. And to be honest, it stinks. But that‘s the way it is sonny.
If you are a man, and you are reading this, and if I‘ve described you, then I say this: Leave this site. Get out of the house. Eat right. Hit the gym. Turn off the computer. Get your house (physically and metaphorically speaking) in order. Set goals. Actively pursue them with vigor. Become the alpha, both in mind and stature. BE THE MAN SHE NEEDS YOU TO BE. Women will follow, but only if YOU LEAD THEM. Be a take-charge kinda guy. Women are surrounded by mama boy pussies in this society, and they HATE IT. Don‘t let people walk all over you. Be responsible with your hard-earned dollars. Go to college, get your education, and don‘t even THINK about marrying a woman until your thirties. Make sure you‘re on track to fulfill your life‘s goals. If you haven‘t achieved your goals yet, don‘t get married.
Don‘t have a girlfriend if you‘re under 25. You‘re too young. And you don‘t know what you like in a woman. Don‘t worry. You‘ll have your shot with some of the most young and supple women if you just keep at it and focus on your career. Women are attracted to fame, status, and power. Some guys will say that many women are simply attracted to money, but guys with money usually have fame, status, and/or power in their communities.
That‘s enough. You guys have to digest a lot.
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p.s. I already know what some of the women here will say. They will try to *shame* me and tell me that I‘m probably a sad and pathetic no-puzzy-gettin‘-loser who has no clue about women and lives in his parent‘s basement. It‘s ok. Shaming tactics are about as elementary and ineffectual on me as one can get, so I actually view the *shame tactics* as proving my point.
"Oh yeah? Well you‘re stupid!"
Go ahead ladies. Shame away. Us men are used to it. No skin off my balls!
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Not sure how I found this site, but I did. And then I saw the "Men‘s" section of the forum. And then I found this thread, which compelled me enough to sign up and post one for the guys.
First things first. The customer always lies to you. When McDonald‘s asks their customers what foods they want to see on the menu, the answer is invariably "healthier foods." So McDonald‘s put healthier options on their menu. And then what do the customers order, praytell? Yes, the customer orders the double cheeseburger from the value menu.
The point is this...
If you‘re a guy, NEVER ask women what they want in a man. Because the customer lies. They will tell you that they want A, B, and C in a man. But the truth is that although they want these traits in a man, these are not the traits that THEY RESPOND TO.
Men should be seeking advice about women from OTHER MEN WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN. Not women themselves.
You want to know what women respond to? They respond to JERKS. That‘s right ladies. Nothing new to us seasoned vets. Before you get your panties in a bunch, let me explain what I mean by the term "jerk."
Jerks don‘t call back when they say they will. They don‘t answer your calls/texts on the weekends. They are open about the fact that the two of your aren‘t "exclusive" and that he is dating other (sometimes several) women. Jerks are mysterious and keep you guessing. Jerks are unapologetic about their sexuality and even flaunt it. Jerks will pull you in, and then push you away.
I can go on and on. This behavior is classified as "jerk" behavior by women. But for those of us that know the score, we understand that it is this very behavior to which women respond the most.
So now that I‘ve clarified that point a bit, I want to further clarify the difference between what a woman WANTS and what she is ATTRACTED to. She WANTS a guy that cooks lame spaghetti dinners (yes, I‘ve done that), is "nice" in the classical sense, buys her chocolates and flowers on Valentine‘s Day (b.s. made-up holiday), opens doors for her, etc.
However, women are ATTRACTED to the "jerk." The guy that doesn‘t pick up her calls, or text her back, engages her in pulling her in and then pushing her away, and basically the guy that demonstrates and lives his life with alpha behavior: he‘s the best in his field, motivated, and driven to succeed. Those who exhibit those traits can be classified as jerks because they have the requisite skills to succeed the world.
Let‘s just say it this way: women will hop from crotch to crotch in their twenties and get burned by "jerks," and then will settle down and marry a "nice guy".
Settling. Always a good option for the unambitious woman who realizes their expiration date is quickly approaching.
The truth is, men should be seeking advice about women from men who are actually successful with them. And I can‘t give advice about men to women. Why? Because I‘m not attracted to men. And we all know that men pretty much just want a piece. We‘re hardwired for it. It‘s in our dna.
Stop hatin‘ on us for doing what biology tells us. Ya heard?
Men, I urge you to open your eyes. I was a nice guy once. You know where that got me? Nowhere. People would tell me that I hadn‘t met the right person or whatever b.s. came out of their mouths. I was overshadowed in business teams and was a pushover. I trucked on, built my career, and became a "jerk" (by my definition above) and guess what? I‘m gettin‘ more azz than a toilet seat.
That‘s right! I got sick and tired of being thrown into the friend zone. I would be nice and try to befriend a women that I was attracted to in the hopes that she would see my good qualities and wish to date me (what a maroon I used to be). This would result in the inevitable and fatal classification as the woman‘s "friend." Meanwhile, she‘s going down on the jerk.
And I HATED the jerk. I wondered, "What does she SEE in him???" And then I took the red pill. I opened my eyes, and I saw how far down the rabbit hole went. I was disgusted at first, and resisted. But eventually, the truth emerged and I had to accept it: I had been living my life inside of some matrix and now I understand the truth. And to be honest, it stinks. But that‘s the way it is sonny.
If you are a man, and you are reading this, and if I‘ve described you, then I say this: Leave this site. Get out of the house. Eat right. Hit the gym. Turn off the computer. Get your house (physically and metaphorically speaking) in order. Set goals. Actively pursue them with vigor. Become the alpha, both in mind and stature. BE THE MAN SHE NEEDS YOU TO BE. Women will follow, but only if YOU LEAD THEM. Be a take-charge kinda guy. Women are surrounded by mama boy pussies in this society, and they HATE IT. Don‘t let people walk all over you. Be responsible with your hard-earned dollars. Go to college, get your education, and don‘t even THINK about marrying a woman until your thirties. Make sure you‘re on track to fulfill your life‘s goals. If you haven‘t achieved your goals yet, don‘t get married.
Don‘t have a girlfriend if you‘re under 25. You‘re too young. And you don‘t know what you like in a woman. Don‘t worry. You‘ll have your shot with some of the most young and supple women if you just keep at it and focus on your career. Women are attracted to fame, status, and power. Some guys will say that many women are simply attracted to money, but guys with money usually have fame, status, and/or power in their communities.
That‘s enough. You guys have to digest a lot.
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p.s. I already know what some of the women here will say. They will try to *shame* me and tell me that I‘m probably a sad and pathetic no-puzzy-gettin‘-loser who has no clue about women and lives in his parent‘s basement. It‘s ok. Shaming tactics are about as elementary and ineffectual on me as one can get, so I actually view the *shame tactics* as proving my point.
"Oh yeah? Well you‘re stupid!"
Go ahead ladies. Shame away. Us men are used to it. No skin off my balls!
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| Dagger Cockburn wrote: | Not sure how I found this site, but I did. And then I saw the "Men‘s" section of the forum. And then I found this thread, which compelled me enough to sign up and post one for the guys.
First things first. The customer always lies to you. When McDonald‘s asks their customers what foods they want to see on the menu, the answer is invariably "healthier foods." So McDonald‘s put healthier options on their menu. And then what do the customers order, praytell? Yes, the customer orders the double cheeseburger from the value menu.
The point is this...
If you‘re a guy, NEVER ask women what they want in a man. Because the customer lies. They will tell you that they want A, B, and C in a man. But the truth is that although they want these traits in a man, these are not the traits that THEY RESPOND TO.
Men should be seeking advice about women from OTHER MEN WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN. Not women themselves.
You want to know what women respond to? They respond to JERKS. That‘s right ladies. Nothing new to us seasoned vets. Before you get your panties in a bunch, let me explain what I mean by the term "jerk."
Jerks don‘t call back when they say they will. They don‘t answer your calls/texts on the weekends. They are open about the fact that the two of your aren‘t "exclusive" and that he is dating other (sometimes several) women. Jerks are mysterious and keep you guessing. Jerks are unapologetic about their sexuality and even flaunt it. Jerks will pull you in, and then push you away.
I can go on and on. This behavior is classified as "jerk" behavior by women. But for those of us that know the score, we understand that it is this very behavior to which women respond the most.
So now that I‘ve clarified that point a bit, I want to further clarify the difference between what a woman WANTS and what she is ATTRACTED to. She WANTS a guy that cooks lame spaghetti dinners (yes, I‘ve done that), is "nice" in the classical sense, buys her chocolates and flowers on Valentine‘s Day (b.s. made-up holiday), opens doors for her, etc.
However, women are ATTRACTED to the "jerk." The guy that doesn‘t pick up her calls, or text her back, engages her in pulling her in and then pushing her away, and basically the guy that demonstrates and lives his life with alpha behavior: he‘s the best in his field, motivated, and driven to succeed. Those who exhibit those traits can be classified as jerks because they have the requisite skills to succeed the world.
Let‘s just say it this way: women will hop from crotch to crotch in their twenties and get burned by "jerks," and then will settle down and marry a "nice guy".
Settling. Always a good option for the unambitious woman who realizes their expiration date is quickly approaching.
The truth is, men should be seeking advice about women from men who are actually successful with them. And I can‘t give advice about men to women. Why? Because I‘m not attracted to men. And we all know that men pretty much just want a piece. We‘re hardwired for it. It‘s in our dna.
Stop hatin‘ on us for doing what biology tells us. Ya heard?
Men, I urge you to open your eyes. I was a nice guy once. You know where that got me? Nowhere. People would tell me that I hadn‘t met the right person or whatever b.s. came out of their mouths. I was overshadowed in business teams and was a pushover. I trucked on, built my career, and became a "jerk" (by my definition above) and guess what? I‘m gettin‘ more azz than a toilet seat.
That‘s right! I got sick and tired of being thrown into the friend zone. I would be nice and try to befriend a women that I was attracted to in the hopes that she would see my good qualities and wish to date me (what a maroon I used to be). This would result in the inevitable and fatal classification as the woman‘s "friend." Meanwhile, she‘s going down on the jerk.
And I HATED the jerk. I wondered, "What does she SEE in him???" And then I took the red pill. I opened my eyes, and I saw how far down the rabbit hole went. I was disgusted at first, and resisted. But eventually, the truth emerged and I had to accept it: I had been living my life inside of some matrix and now I understand the truth. And to be honest, it stinks. But that‘s the way it is sonny.
If you are a man, and you are reading this, and if I‘ve described you, then I say this: Leave this site. Get out of the house. Eat right. Hit the gym. Turn off the computer. Get your house (physically and metaphorically speaking) in order. Set goals. Actively pursue them with vigor. Become the alpha, both in mind and stature. BE THE MAN SHE NEEDS YOU TO BE. Women will follow, but only if YOU LEAD THEM. Be a take-charge kinda guy. Women are surrounded by mama boy pussies in this society, and they HATE IT. Don‘t let people walk all over you. Be responsible with your hard-earned dollars. Go to college, get your education, and don‘t even THINK about marrying a woman until your thirties. Make sure you‘re on track to fulfill your life‘s goals. If you haven‘t achieved your goals yet, don‘t get married.
Don‘t have a girlfriend if you‘re under 25. You‘re too young. And you don‘t know what you like in a woman. Don‘t worry. You‘ll have your shot with some of the most young and supple women if you just keep at it and focus on your career. Women are attracted to fame, status, and power. Some guys will say that many women are simply attracted to money, but guys with money usually have fame, status, and/or power in their communities.
That‘s enough. You guys have to digest a lot.
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p.s. I already know what some of the women here will say. They will try to *shame* me and tell me that I‘m probably a sad and pathetic no-puzzy-gettin‘-loser who has no clue about women and lives in his parent‘s basement. It‘s ok. Shaming tactics are about as elementary and ineffectual on me as one can get, so I actually view the *shame tactics* as proving my point.
"Oh yeah? Well you‘re stupid!"
Go ahead ladies. Shame away. Us men are used to it. No skin off my balls!
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I feel sorry for you!
Somebody must have really done a number on you to make you feel this way.
I hope you feel better soon!
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Not sure how I found this site, but I did. And then I saw the "Men‘s" section of the forum. And then I found this thread, which compelled me enough to sign up and post one for the guys.
First things first. The customer always lies to you. When McDonald‘s asks their customers what foods they want to see on the menu, the answer is invariably "healthier foods." So McDonald‘s put healthier options on their menu. And then what do the customers order, praytell? Yes, the customer orders the double cheeseburger from the value menu.
The point is this...
If you‘re a guy, NEVER ask women what they want in a man. Because the customer lies. They will tell you that they want A, B, and C in a man. But the truth is that although they want these traits in a man, these are not the traits that THEY RESPOND TO.
Men should be seeking advice about women from OTHER MEN WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN. Not women themselves.
You want to know what women respond to? They respond to JERKS. That‘s right ladies. Nothing new to us seasoned vets. Before you get your panties in a bunch, let me explain what I mean by the term "jerk."
Jerks don‘t call back when they say they will. They don‘t answer your calls/texts on the weekends. They are open about the fact that the two of your aren‘t "exclusive" and that he is dating other (sometimes several) women. Jerks are mysterious and keep you guessing. Jerks are unapologetic about their sexuality and even flaunt it. Jerks will pull you in, and then push you away.
I can go on and on. This behavior is classified as "jerk" behavior by women. But for those of us that know the score, we understand that it is this very behavior to which women respond the most.
So now that I‘ve clarified that point a bit, I want to further clarify the difference between what a woman WANTS and what she is ATTRACTED to. She WANTS a guy that cooks lame spaghetti dinners (yes, I‘ve done that), is "nice" in the classical sense, buys her chocolates and flowers on Valentine‘s Day (b.s. made-up holiday), opens doors for her, etc.
However, women are ATTRACTED to the "jerk." The guy that doesn‘t pick up her calls, or text her back, engages her in pulling her in and then pushing her away, and basically the guy that demonstrates and lives his life with alpha behavior: he‘s the best in his field, motivated, and driven to succeed. Those who exhibit those traits can be classified as jerks because they have the requisite skills to succeed the world.
Let‘s just say it this way: women will hop from crotch to crotch in their twenties and get burned by "jerks," and then will settle down and marry a "nice guy".
Settling. Always a good option for the unambitious woman who realizes their expiration date is quickly approaching.
The truth is, men should be seeking advice about women from men who are actually successful with them. And I can‘t give advice about men to women. Why? Because I‘m not attracted to men. And we all know that men pretty much just want a piece. We‘re hardwired for it. It‘s in our dna.
Stop hatin‘ on us for doing what biology tells us. Ya heard?
Men, I urge you to open your eyes. I was a nice guy once. You know where that got me? Nowhere. People would tell me that I hadn‘t met the right person or whatever b.s. came out of their mouths. I was overshadowed in business teams and was a pushover. I trucked on, built my career, and became a "jerk" (by my definition above) and guess what? I‘m gettin‘ more azz than a toilet seat.
That‘s right! I got sick and tired of being thrown into the friend zone. I would be nice and try to befriend a women that I was attracted to in the hopes that she would see my good qualities and wish to date me (what a maroon I used to be). This would result in the inevitable and fatal classification as the woman‘s "friend." Meanwhile, she‘s going down on the jerk.
And I HATED the jerk. I wondered, "What does she SEE in him???" And then I took the red pill. I opened my eyes, and I saw how far down the rabbit hole went. I was disgusted at first, and resisted. But eventually, the truth emerged and I had to accept it: I had been living my life inside of some matrix and now I understand the truth. And to be honest, it stinks. But that‘s the way it is sonny.
If you are a man, and you are reading this, and if I‘ve described you, then I say this: Leave this site. Get out of the house. Eat right. Hit the gym. Turn off the computer. Get your house (physically and metaphorically speaking) in order. Set goals. Actively pursue them with vigor. Become the alpha, both in mind and stature. BE THE MAN SHE NEEDS YOU TO BE. Women will follow, but only if YOU LEAD THEM. Be a take-charge kinda guy. Women are surrounded by mama boy pussies in this society, and they HATE IT. Don‘t let people walk all over you. Be responsible with your hard-earned dollars. Go to college, get your education, and don‘t even THINK about marrying a woman until your thirties. Make sure you‘re on track to fulfill your life‘s goals. If you haven‘t achieved your goals yet, don‘t get married.
Don‘t have a girlfriend if you‘re under 25. You‘re too young. And you don‘t know what you like in a woman. Don‘t worry. You‘ll have your shot with some of the most young and supple women if you just keep at it and focus on your career. Women are attracted to fame, status, and power. Some guys will say that many women are simply attracted to money, but guys with money usually have fame, status, and/or power in their communities.
That‘s enough. You guys have to digest a lot.
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p.s. I already know what some of the women here will say. They will try to *shame* me and tell me that I‘m probably a sad and pathetic no-puzzy-gettin‘-loser who has no clue about women and lives in his parent‘s basement. It‘s ok. Shaming tactics are about as elementary and ineffectual on me as one can get, so I actually view the *shame tactics* as proving my point.
"Oh yeah? Well you‘re stupid!"
Go ahead ladies. Shame away. Us men are used to it. No skin off my balls!
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You sound terrible bitter. My boyfriend is a great guy, not a jerk. I‘m not attracted to jerks. Please refrain from generalising.
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Dagger Cockburn: I have to say that is quite the "love handle" you have there.
I am very sorry for your unfortunate experiences with women. The dating world can be brutal! Some of us have endured all the disappointment we can take, and don‘t want to go there again.
I agree with you re. focusing on your education, career, hobbies, and looking out for Number One while you are in your 20‘s. You have the rest of your life to get serious and settle down. I think more men and women should figure out who "they" are first. The 20‘s are a good time to get out there, try new things, explore new interests, learn more about life, and have fun. It‘s the time to grow up and become a full fledged adult. The better you know yourself, the better choices you make in life. I say enjoy your youth - it passes all too quickly. You will never regret making the most of the opportunities you have then.
Chances are, by the time you get in your 30‘s & 40‘s, you‘re going to look real good to the women who passed you up in the past. Some women don‘t learn what‘s really important until they‘ve been burned. By the time they are out in the work force in the dog eat dog world, paying their own bills, maybe divorced, and maybe single parents, believe me, a "nice guy" looks real good. Somehow the good looking losers have a whole lot less appeal - especially when chances are, these women are trying to collect child support from them. Take it from me - the "hotties" look a whole lot less "hot" when they don‘t work, don‘t pay their bills, lie, cheat, and father kids all over the place. By the time the superficial women figure it out, the good men are slimmer pickin‘s and quite often, if men at those ages are still single, there is usually a reason for it.
When people get older is when they usually get their priorities straight, and learn what is truly important.
Don‘t allow the rejection of women to make you bitter. It just wasn‘t the right time, and they just weren‘t the right women.
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Oh, of course I forgot to add all the usual caveats to the end of my post. To whomever said it, yes I have been burned by women. What man with a pulse hasn‘t? Jesus. The same can be said about women. Yes, they‘ve all been burned by some man. Again, your attempts at shaming me have no effect. It‘s a basic trick (women think it‘s a trick) that women use all the time. The other one I like is when they call guys "creepy." That will work on betas darling, but not this guy.
And of course not ALL women are the way I described. Good grief. That‘s the NUMBER ONE response I hear from women when they hear my views. They will say, "But I‘m not like THAT!" That may be the case. There are always exceptions to the rule. A guy can fall out of a third story building and survive. Does that mean I‘m going to go jump out of a third story window?
Let me clarify even further...
Do you want to know how many women I‘ve met that call their ex a "jerk?" Well, here‘s the truth. You let that "jerk" impregnate you. Oftentimes more than once!
"Oh, he‘s such a JERK! What an asshole!"
You LIVED with that jerk. You might have even MARRIED him! Your mistake, women, is thinking you can change a guy. Ain‘t gonna happen. EVER. Guys go into marriage thinking that things will stay the same. Women go into marriage hoping that things will change. Digest that for a moment.
I just don‘t know how to say it any simpler: women **** the bad boy, and take the nice guy home to mama. But here‘s the deal. Guys just want to bone. Even the nice guy! He just goes about it differently (and consequently, less effectively). And the jerk doesn‘t give a pinch of owl **** about going antiquing with you, or cooking your spaghetti dinners, or buying you clothes, or any of that stuff. He DOESN‘T CARE. And it is precisely that fact which attracts women to guys like me.
Listen, I‘ll say it only one more time. And if you don‘t get it, then you never will. I was the nice guy at a point in my life. It‘s 100% true. But it NEVER GOT ME LAID. Again, men are hardwired to spread their seed. It‘s in our DNA. Biologically-speaking, it‘s what we are driven to do. Anybody with a high school biology education will understand this fact.
I used to think that I wanted to be married and raise a family. But the sad fact is that half of marriages end in divorce (the rate is higher in states like CA). With alimony laws being what they are, and other divorce legislation favoring the woman, why would any man in his right mind do that? Another analogy for you all:
If you walk into a job interview, and the person interviewing you said, "Statistics show that in five years or less, our working relationship will most likely end. In that case, you will pay us 50% of the money you earned over that time. In addition, you will continue to pay us until we find a suitable replacement. Sound good?"
Yep! Sounds great to me! Where do I sign up?!
Listen ladies, all I‘m saying is this: There are more and more guys out there who were raised by their single mommies. And mommy told them to be nice and treat women like princesses. And these are the pussies that TURN YOU OFF. It‘s like that song that asks, "Where have all the cowboys gone?"
Where have they gone??? You know the answer...
I‘m out there in the field folks. It‘s a numbers game. I‘m not going to find a quality woman unless I‘m out there getting numbers and dating like a mad man. But you know what? With how women talk and act these days (their vulgar sexual mouths spewing bile at every "nice guy" that approaches them), it‘s no wonder guys like me (successful, both in my career and my life) have just plain stepped back from it all. Refer to my analogy above.
You know what a woman said to me the other night? She said, "You have to do this (she wanted to go get breakfast after the bar, and I didn‘t). This is 2010 honey and women have the ***** and therefore we have the power!!!" Yes, she was serious.
I responded, "Well, who had the ***** BEFORE 2010? Was it lost? And besides, you derive no power from your *****. That only works if yours is the only ***** available to me. And I have plenty of other options that will take care of that for me." She picked her jaw up off the floor and stomped off in a hissy. Most likely, that behavior has been rewarded in her past by beta males who would have chased her down to apologize.
That‘s the type of woman that men are out there dealing with. They feel ENTITLED, yet will hardly EVER take accountability for themselves or their actions.
I will defend myself with more examples and analogies if you wish. But if I keep seeing the same-old tired responses that have no merit, I will ignore it. It forces a digression of the dialogue and is just plain juvenile.
To the poster above me, thanks for taking the time to write a thoughtful post. It‘s apparent that you have experience. To the other one-liners, I say this: it doesn‘t take much brain power to whip out a one-liner. In fact, it magnifies your glaring ignorance of the subject, your lack of life experience, your inability to view things objectively, and the ability to express those thoughts in coherent and complete sentences and paragraphs. Clean it up, huh?
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| Dagger Cockburn wrote: | | Oh, of course I forgot to add all the usual caveats to the end of my post. To whomever said it, yes I have been burned by women. What man with a pulse hasn‘t? Jesus. The same can be said about women. Yes, they‘ve all been burned by some man. Again, your attempts at shaming me have no effect. It‘s a basic trick (women think it‘s a trick) that women use all the time. The other one I like is when they call guys "creepy." That will work on betas darling, but not this guy.
And of course not ALL women are the way I described. Good grief. That‘s the NUMBER ONE response I hear from women when they hear my views. They will say, "But I‘m not like THAT!" That may be the case. There are always exceptions to the rule. A guy can fall out of a third story building and survive. Does that mean I‘m going to go jump out of a third story window?
Let me clarify even further...
Do you want to know how many women I‘ve met that call their ex a "jerk?" Well, here‘s the truth. You let that "jerk" impregnate you. Oftentimes more than once!
"Oh, he‘s such a JERK! What an asshole!"
You LIVED with that jerk. You might have even MARRIED him! Your mistake, women, is thinking you can change a guy. Ain‘t gonna happen. EVER. Guys go into marriage thinking that things will stay the same. Women go into marriage hoping that things will change. Digest that for a moment.
I just don‘t know how to say it any simpler: women **** the bad boy, and take the nice guy home to mama. But here‘s the deal. Guys just want to bone. Even the nice guy! He just goes about it differently (and consequently, less effectively). And the jerk doesn‘t give a pinch of owl **** about going antiquing with you, or cooking your spaghetti dinners, or buying you clothes, or any of that stuff. He DOESN‘T CARE. And it is precisely that fact which attracts women to guys like me.
Listen, I‘ll say it only one more time. And if you don‘t get it, then you never will. I was the nice guy at a point in my life. It‘s 100% true. But it NEVER GOT ME LAID. Again, men are hardwired to spread their seed. It‘s in our DNA. Biologically-speaking, it‘s what we are driven to do. Anybody with a high school biology education will understand this fact.
I used to think that I wanted to be married and raise a family. But the sad fact is that half of marriages end in divorce (the rate is higher in states like CA). With alimony laws being what they are, and other divorce legislation favoring the woman, why would any man in his right mind do that? Another analogy for you all:
If you walk into a job interview, and the person interviewing you said, "Statistics show that in five years or less, our working relationship will most likely end. In that case, you will pay us 50% of the money you earned over that time. In addition, you will continue to pay us until we find a suitable replacement. Sound good?"
Yep! Sounds great to me! Where do I sign up?!
Listen ladies, all I‘m saying is this: There are more and more guys out there who were raised by their single mommies. And mommy told them to be nice and treat women like princesses. And these are the pussies that TURN YOU OFF. It‘s like that song that asks, "Where have all the cowboys gone?"
Where have they gone??? You know the answer...
I‘m out there in the field folks. It‘s a numbers game. I‘m not going to find a quality woman unless I‘m out there getting numbers and dating like a mad man. But you know what? With how women talk and act these days (their vulgar sexual mouths spewing bile at every "nice guy" that approaches them), it‘s no wonder guys like me (successful, both in my career and my life) have just plain stepped back from it all. Refer to my analogy above.
You know what a woman said to me the other night? She said, "You have to do this (she wanted to go get breakfast after the bar, and I didn‘t). This is 2010 honey and women have the ***** and therefore we have the power!!!" Yes, she was serious.
I responded, "Well, who had the ***** BEFORE 2010? Was it lost? And besides, you derive no power from your *****. That only works if yours is the only ***** available to me. And I have plenty of other options that will take care of that for me." She picked her jaw up off the floor and stomped off in a hissy. Most likely, that behavior has been rewarded in her past by beta males who would have chased her down to apologize.
That‘s the type of woman that men are out there dealing with. They feel ENTITLED, yet will hardly EVER take accountability for themselves or their actions.
I will defend myself with more examples and analogies if you wish. But if I keep seeing the same-old tired responses that have no merit, I will ignore it. It forces a digression of the dialogue and is just plain juvenile.
To the poster above me, thanks for taking the time to write a thoughtful post. It‘s apparent that you have experience. To the other one-liners, I say this: it doesn‘t take much brain power to whip out a one-liner. In fact, it magnifies your glaring ignorance of the subject, your lack of life experience, your inability to view things objectively, and the ability to express those thoughts in coherent and complete sentences and paragraphs. Clean it up, huh?
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Good grief! You bitch worse than a woman! ~eyeroll~
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