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| evesdrop wrote: | Do you know your ex-girlfriend‘s past?? Are you giving her any slack at all??
I just think that she deserves more credit than you are giving her. I think you took her comment way out of context. You should be proud of the guy you are, and that she wanted something better for herself and you were that guy....I know I did.
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Oh, I cut her slack in the sense that I didn‘t completely get angry and pick fights with her over it. I simply was put off by the comment and slowly became uninterested in her.
I‘m proud of the guy I am and I reserve myself for someone that doesn‘t feel like they only stay away from the "excitement" of their bad boys just because they don‘t want to get crapped on.
Its as if she did really like me and wanted to be with me, but I just got those visions of her looking at the other guys, licking her lips, and thinking like its a piece of chocolate cake....boy...she REALLY wants a piece, but she knows its bad for her(and sometimes they think "what the hell" and take a small bite).
I didn‘t want someone I figured would be easily tempted...but the remark she made I just couldn‘t shake.
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On the bright side....to any woman who has ever dated one....it has given her valuable insight to what she really wants in a man. If you find offense to that....it most certainly will be your loss.
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its like this, what would your reaction be to a guy that is with you and said, "those hot women I use to date were delicious, but I have a stable woman now"??
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I would most likely faint right there on the spot! I would faint because I just witnessed a friggin man ACT like a man. He just walked into the "real" world.
Whats wrong with you? Stable can be hot. You‘re the one comparing yourself to bad boys. Not your GF. Shes outgrown them. You feel inferior to badboys....thats why you‘re angry.
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Eves drop comments is just one more clear example of how women feel about nice guys, and how everything I said is correct.
Touchebaby:
"I would most likely faint right there on the spot! I would faint because I just witnessed a friggin man ACT like a man. He just walked into the "real" world. " A real man DEFINES himself, he is not what some woman defines him to be.
Whats wrong with you? Stable can be hot. You‘re the one comparing yourself to bad boys. Not your GF. Shes outgrown them. You feel inferior to badboys....thats why you‘re angry. she compaerd him. She said clearly that their qualities were the "fun", while stable is what she sees in him. You are the one sounding angry here... He does not sound angry at all. Quite all the opposite, it seems that he already got over the situation and have it all figured out. Your comments are the ones sounding overemotional.
Anyway, why do you feel the need to be an apologist for this woman anyway ?
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Eves, I adore you!
I have never dated a bad boy, but I would do Sawyer in a minute. (Eves understands.)
Africanguy/Japaneseguy/pickyournationalityguy, you need to work on your spelling and grammar. Just saying.
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"Anyway, why do you feel the need to be an apologist for this woman anyway ?"
Weren‘t you paying attention? Team Vagina! MTB is catching **** from other women for knowing to stay away from a woman who as he so excellently put it, "would be tempted" to stray from a boring nice guy like him. Someone on another board I‘m on put it in a quite comically exaggerated but funny way. He said, ‘you know what women understand? my fist. Nothing make‘s a bitch‘s tuna wet like seeing raw male power she can never have.‘
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"Whats wrong with you? Stable can be hot. You‘re the one comparing yourself to bad boys. Not your GF. Shes outgrown them. You feel inferior to badboys....thats why you‘re angry."
His girlfriend and other women make him and other men feel inferior by the fact that they secretly long for the bad boy and stray from their husbands. She basically said he was decent but not bad or sexy enough overall with her words. You‘re blaming the victim. Smarten up.
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http://mensnewsdaily.com/2009/11/09/sex-and-control-how-men-get-screwed-by-emotionally-abusive-women/
Sex and Control: How Men Get Screwed by Emotionally Abusive Women
Sex is a very important part of a healthy and loving relationship. If you’re involved with an emotionally abusive narcissistic and/or borderline woman, the sex has probably become bad for your self-esteem and general well-being, just like everything else in your relationship.
Women with these issues basically have three behaviors toward sex: hyper-sexuality, “hot and cold” or frigidity. Sometimes, the same woman can alternate between all three behaviors.
[Note: Sex drives may vary greatly from person to person and aren‘t necessarily an irresolvable issue in an otherwise loving and compatible relationship. This post focuses on the unhealthy attitudes and behaviors these women have toward sex.]
First, let’s explore the essential elements for love and a fulfilling sex life.
Vulnerability, trust, intimacy, empathy, and respect (or the lack thereof).
There are 5 prerequisites for love and great sex:
- Vulnerability. This means taking a risk, exposing your true self, your needs and desires. It’s risky because you could be rejected or ridiculed. It’s impossible for an NPD and/or BPD woman to make herself vulnerable because she’s invested most of her life in crafting an elaborate and rigid false self to hide her highly damaged true self.
- Trust. You trust your partner to accept you and to not deliberately hurt you. This woman trusts no one. She believes everyone is out for themselves and trying to “get one over” on her. This is an example of projection. She’s out for herself and tries to constantly get one over on you.
- Intimacy. This is about sharing and getting close physically, psychologically and emotionally.
- Empathy. This requires being in tune with the other person and being able to experience how they feel and what they want and need.
- Respect. This woman treats her husband or boyfriend like an object; not an equal partner whose feelings and needs are just as important as her own. Bottom line: She doesn’t respect you.
An emotionally abusive NPD/BPD woman is incapable of empathy. She’s incapable of seeing any viewpoint other than her own and only cares about her needs and feelings. She’d rather stick bamboo splinters under her fingernails than feel vulnerable and she cannot, cannot tolerate emotional and psychological intimacy. She can tolerate some physical intimacy, as long as it doesn’t lead to the other forms of intimacy. Basically, in order to avoid emotional and psychological intimacy, she either engages in hyper-sexuality or avoids sex altogether. But why?
True intimacy means sharing your good qualities as well as your faults and insecurities with your partner, which this woman will never do. Not only does this woman not let down her guard, she ’s constantly attacking you or pushing your buttons in order to keep her vulnerabilities from being exposed. Consequently, you feel unsafe and on your guard, even though a love partner is the one person with whom you should feel safe enough to let down your guard. This doesn’t bode well for a mutually satisfying relationship or sex life.
So why is she even in a relationship if she doesn’t trust, respect or love you?
1. You’re her normalcy prop. Being married or in a committed relationship gives her the appearance of normalcy to the outside world. You play an integral role in maintaining her false self. “See. Someone wants me. There’s nothing wrong with me. Normal people get married. Therefore, I’m normal because I’m married.”
2. She can’t exist without attention. Good attention, bad attention; it doesn’t matter. For her purposes, you could be anybody. She likes the idea of having a boyfriend or husband in the abstract, but the reality of being in a relationship is filled with frustration and disappointment for her because you’re not “perfect” or “good enough” for her highly inflated false sense of self. She soon grows to resent you and then the covert and overt abuse, rage attacks and/or sullen withdrawal begin.
As a result of not living up to her lofty and unrealistic expectations, which no one is capable of doing, she doesn’t really like you very much. She plays the role of martyr to the hilt, professing her love for you in one breath and cutting you down and shutting you out with the next. You can’t have a satisfying emotional and physical connection with someone who doesn’t like you and sees you as a “disappointment.” This is another example of projection. In reality, she’s the disappointment and failure as a life partner.
It all comes down to control and bolstering her ego.
Sex isn’t about expressing love, lust, intimacy, passion, affection or mutual pleasure. Instead, many of these women use sex to lure you into the relationship. Once she feels confident that she’s hooked you, sex becomes one of the ways she controls you—either by “sexing you up” or by withholding it. There are two primary ways of doing this.
1. The insatiable sexual virtuoso. The sex starts off with a “bang.” The sheer intensity of it is mind blowing, but DECEIVING. The intensity is actually a symptom of the severity of her pathology. What seems like intense passion to you, is really her intense need to control and dominate you into submission. I repeat, it’s about controlling you, not pleasing you.
You’re also her sex prop. She treats you like a mechanical object/scratching post/human vibrator and/or a way to make herself feel desirable, sexy or “the best.” Roger Melton, M.A. explains: “I love you” means “I need you to love me.” “That was the best ever for me” means “Tell me it was the best ever for you. Show me that I have you.” Sex isn’t an act of true intimacy, but rather another way for her to feel admired and in control. Eventually, this will cause you to feel used and distant instead of loved and emotionally connected. This form of sexuality may be constant or blow hot and cold. It depends upon how often she needs this kind of validation and/or how great her need for control is.
2. The withholding “welcher.” Alternately, an emotionally abusive, NPD/BPD woman lures you into a relationship with the unspoken promise of passionate sex once you’ve “proven” yourself and she “feels” she can “trust you.” Alexander Lowen, M.D. explains this kind of seduction as “a false statement or promise to get another person to do what he or she would not otherwise do. The promise can be explicitly stated, or it can be implied. Psychopathic swindlers openly promise something they have no intention of giving. But most seductive ploys involve promises that are not clearly stated” (Narcissism: Denial of the True Self, p. 102).
This is a trap because the passionate sex never materializes. You have to keep proving yourself “worthy” of her and, as many of my readers know, nothing is ever enough for these women. You can never be “nice” enough, do enough or meet any of her other ill-defined, diffuse, shifting rules and requirements enough for her to “reward” you with sex. Sex is a chore for this woman, an obligation or a “favor” she begrudgingly bestows with growing infrequency and ultimately becomes a transaction.
A transactional relationship is one in which person “A” provides a service in exchange for person “B” providing a service. Prostitution is a kind of transactional relationship and so is sex with this kind of NPD/BPD woman. In other words, if you want to get laid, then you have to give her something she wants or behave how she wants you to behave. This is another way she controls you.
There’s always an agenda, even if it’s having sex so you won’t end the relationship. It’s still a transaction. “You owe me because I let you have sex with me. I did my ‘duty,’ so now you can’t leave.” Most men are so grateful for even the smallest scrap of affection that they ignore the perfunctory and disinterested way in which their wife or girlfriend treats sex. Like a man who’s been wandering through the desert views a thimble full of water; you’re grateful for what little you get.
No matter the scenario, you’re not her beloved, equal partner; you’re either a “to-do” list item, a human vibrator, and/or a way for her to feel like “she’s still got it.”
Shame and sex don’t mix.
This kind of woman may also increase her control by combining sex with shame. For example, she labels you as “perverse,” “sick” or “abnormal” for wanting sex, when she’s the one who has a perverse, twisted sexuality and relationship beliefs—this is more projection. Typical statements include: “There’s something wrong with you. You’re a sex addict. You’re a pervert. All you want is sex.” Shaming you for the very natural desire of physical intimacy in your committed relationship is incredibly abusive and scarring.
The NPD/BPD woman will only have sex when she wants it, which is usually after you’ve been so beaten down that you no longer have any interest in touching her. Contrary to what she believes, criticism, rages, and the cold shoulder do not make for great aphrodisiacs. When you tell her that you’re not in the mood (go figure), she insults your manhood, accuses you of infidelity, of not loving her and so on and so forth.
She expects you to perform a thousand and one feats of devotion before she takes the lid off the cookie jar, yet expects you to perform on demand whether you want to or not. This is another example of her utter lack of empathy. Sex is about what she needs in that given moment and has nothing to do with you. You’re nothing more than object who exists to service her every whim, need and insecurity.
Screwed, but not in the good way.
In the end, a Narcissistic-Borderline woman tends to make a poor lover. Even if she’s mastered a range of techniques, sex is ultimately a mechanical act devoid of true intimacy. If you view sex as simply a mechanistic, impersonal stimulus/release interaction, this may be enough. If you view sex as a medium of expression in which you share love, lust, playfulness, raw animal passion, desire, tenderness and mutual fantasies, sex with this kind of woman will never be enough. Sex becomes just another empty and dissatisfying exchange with your partner.
For those of you who think you’ve lucked out because you’re with the sexual performer, think again. It may be more difficult to end your relationship because you’re also confusing sex with intimacy and can fall back on the lie, “at least the sex is good.” Is it really? Or is it making it more difficult for you to recognize the degree to which you’re being abused, to end the relationship and to find a woman who’s capable of true intimacy?
by Dr Tara J. Palmatier, PsyD
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This one got to me more than any other of the great articles by Dr. Palmatier.
This past year of my marriage has been akin to an earthquake, but my heart breaks over our sex life, and the lack of sex is only part of it.
We were together over a year before becoming engaged, and engaged before we had sex. We waited until engagement as to not let it cloud our minds about whether or not we were right to marry.
Now, here we are, married with two daughters. And my wife has broke my heart. What was, at least in my opinion, a reasonable, healthy sex life is now my worst nightmare.
My wife brought her ex husband into our bed, talking about him as a better sex partner. Dare I say a sex god by comparison.
I¡¯ve tried to set the mood, been rejected, and had her tell me ¡°say what you will about ____, he sure knewhow to put me in the mood.¡± We were watching TV in bed one night, and someone said on a sit com ¡°men who can dance are good in bed,¡± and she piped up and said ¡°My ex husband was definitely living proof of that.¡±
After foreplay, she¡¯s told me he was better with his mouth than I.
Intercourse was better because ¡°he was smaller and more maneuverable.¡± (As of being 6¡ä0, 190 lbs is fat)
She even said my orgasm is too much fluid, and it wasn¡¯t that way when he had his orgasm in her.
After a couple months of trying to make it better, I finally told her I couldn¡¯t take any more, to which she apologized, and reassured me by saying ¡°The sex may have been better with him, but you¡¯re a better husband and I love you more.¡± Yep, they did the trick. She chalks me up to being too sensitive because ¡°sex isn¡¯t that important.¡± (If it¡¯s not, why did she bring her ex up so much?)
We haven¡¯t had sex in almost a year. And what¡¯s worse, I don¡¯t care to.
It¡¯s not that I¡¯m scared to leave her, but I am scared of what the courts will do to me and my little girls. I don¡¯t want to be an every other weekend father.
And before anyone thinks it¡¯s her hormones, our little girls are adoped. My wife is infertile.
I¡¯m not really asking for help, it¡¯s just nice to share it, as painful as it is. I can¡¯t really tell anyone, obviously.
Kind of funny how none of this came up for years, until she had both the marriage and the children. (There is a reason the courts call children the wife¡¯s ¡°insurance policy¡±). I asked her before the marriage if I satisfied her (in that and many ways), and she told me I was wonderful.
She hasn¡¯t mentioned him since I lost it months ago, but I know the only reason is my reaction¨Cnot because she isn¡¯t thinking of him.
This is one of the reasons I say here that family law has done as much damage to marriage as any feminist.
Dr. Tara is awesome. Kudos to MND for having her column
Mr. True Blue, you can bet your ass that the women disagreeing with you on this board would tell this sap that he should have gone to counselling and fought to try and win his wife back and that he should have been happy with the table scraps of sex she showed him - even when she bashed him in the bedroom.
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| Drew J wrote: | "Whats wrong with you? Stable can be hot. You‘re the one comparing yourself to bad boys. Not your GF. Shes outgrown them. You feel inferior to badboys....thats why you‘re angry."
His girlfriend and other women make him and other men feel inferior by the fact that they secretly long for the bad boy and stray from their husbands. She basically said he was decent but not bad or sexy enough overall with her words. You‘re blaming the victim. Smarten up. |
Oh for heaven sakes...the woman made a flip comment of how she has outgrown "badboys" and you turn it into a crime.
I see a woman can do nothing right in your eyes...........~Eyeroll~
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| Drew J wrote: |
"Anyway, why do you feel the need to be an apologist for this woman anyway ?"
Weren‘t you paying attention? Team Vagina! MTB is catching **** from other women for knowing to stay away from a woman who as he so excellently put it, "would be tempted" to stray from a boring nice guy like him. Someone on another board I‘m on put it in a quite comically exaggerated but funny way. He said, ‘you know what women understand? my fist. Nothing make‘s a bitch‘s tuna wet like seeing raw male power she can never have.‘ |
Oh...dont act like a prude! Theres a bit of bad in all of us! Some people can control it and some cannot. Get it straight....nobody actually "wants" a badboy. Unless you call entertainment purposes "real!" LOL If the woman wanted another badboy she just as easily could have found another one. She chose MTB. She wasnt settling for MTB at all. Everyone has a past...if he so chooses to hold it against her...I suppose he will.
MTB missed a shot at teaching her nice guys rock. Instead he ran off pouting!
And to think you wonder why the good guys come up emptyhanded!!!!!!!!! LOL!
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"Africanguy/Japaneseguy/pickyournationalityguy, you need to work on your spelling and grammar. Just saying."
Sorry, I can only spell correctly in portuguese... Plus, I post in a huge hurry.
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Touchebaby:
Get it straight....nobody actually "wants" a badboy. Unless you call entertainment purposes "real!"
Entertainment purposes is what men want. Certainly, what MTB doesn‘t want in this stage of his life is to be chained to an over the hill woman who sees him as an wallet or for any other "usefull" purposes. And you again are agreeing that badboys are what women look for entertainment.
LOL If the woman wanted another badboy she just as easily could have found another one. She chose MTB. She wasnt settling for MTB at all. Everyone has a past...if he so chooses to hold it against her...I suppose he will.
She would want another badboy... if she was young and wanting to having fun. I bet that if she had met MTB 10 or 15 years ago, she would probably not even consider him.
About everyone having a past... Not all... And some people just have more than others... Considering your comments, you must have a huge past...
MTB missed a shot at teaching her nice guys rock. Instead he ran off pouting! And to think you wonder why the good guys come up emptyhanded!!!!!!!!! LOL!
I am sure she had in their past many opportunities to see how nice guys rock... Instead, she prefered the fun of bad boys... Maybe now it‘s too late for her. MTB must look for his best interests, not in teaching any women anything, or give them validation. It‘s unbelievable how you can only see one side of the whole thing.
You know, I am starting to think that touchebaby must be the woman MTB dumped.
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Touchebaby:
Get it straight....nobody actually "wants" a badboy. Unless you call entertainment purposes "real!"
Entertainment purposes is what men want. Certainly, what MTB doesn‘t want in this stage of his life is to be chained to an over the hill woman who sees him as an wallet or for any other "usefull" purposes. And you again are agreeing that badboys are what women look for entertainment.
LOL If the woman wanted another badboy she just as easily could have found another one. She chose MTB. She wasnt settling for MTB at all. Everyone has a past...if he so chooses to hold it against her...I suppose he will.
She would want another badboy... if she was young and wanting to having fun. I bet that if she had met MTB 10 or 15 years ago, she would probably not even consider him.
About everyone having a past... Not all... And some people just have more than others... Considering your comments, you must have a huge past...
MTB missed a shot at teaching her nice guys rock. Instead he ran off pouting! And to think you wonder why the good guys come up emptyhanded!!!!!!!!! LOL!
I am sure she had in their past many opportunities to see how nice guys rock... Instead, she prefered the fun of bad boys... Maybe now it‘s too late for her. MTB must look for his best interests, not in teaching any women anything, or give them validation. It‘s unbelievable how you can only see one side of the whole thing.
You know, I am starting to think that touchebaby must be the woman MTB dumped.
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LOL! You are one very unreasonable man.
The very best of luck to you ,on your search for Snow White! LOL!!!
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LOL! You are one very unreasonable man.
It appears I am not the only one... In the end, none of the men here agree with you.
Anyway, answer, if you say, "entertainment purposes" is what women want from players, but that is not "real", what is the "real" ?
I can bet my underpants that your answer is going to be stuff men want distance from.
The very best of luck on your search for Snow White! LOL!!!
I am not searching anything that I haven‘t found. And how is your search for your nice guy ? It‘s hard to find find a dude for you and all your past ?
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| Africanguy wrote: | LOL! You are one very unreasonable man.
It appears I am not the only one... In the end, none of the men here agree with you.
Anyway, answer, if you say, "entertainment purposes" is what women want from players, but that is not "real", what is the "real" ?
I can bet my underpants that your answer is going to be stuff men want distance from.
The very best of luck on your search for Snow White! LOL!!!
I am not searching anything that I haven‘t found. And how is your search for your nice guy ? It‘s hard to find find a dude for you and all your past ? |
Insecure men usually dont agree with me. LOL I like it and prefer it that way! LOL!
You are one very judgemental man and I truly hope someday soon you come to understand......that is to your detriment.
Good luck to you!
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| CaliforniaGirl wrote: | Eves, I adore you!
I have never dated a bad boy, but I would do Sawyer in a minute. (Eves understands.)
Africanguy/Japaneseguy/pickyournationalityguy, you need to work on your spelling and grammar. Just saying.
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I adore you too!!!
Well, I might consider doing JACK!!! Wait....Jack is NOT a bad boy.....see I‘ve CHANGED.....LOL....
And yes.....all of you carry on.
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Insecure men usually dont agree with me. LOL I like it and prefer it that way! LOL!
So, who doesn‘t agree with you are insecure, right ?
You are one very judgemental man and I truly hope someday soon you come to understand......that is to your detriment.
Yes, I am VERY judgemental. And it‘s thanks to this that the woman in my life isn‘t anything like this. I consider myself very smart, and thats the only thing I have to thank for being where I am today, unlike many people I know.
I believe in what I believe, I say the things that I say, and not only I am happy this way, but also I always do make an effort to make others to see those things with an better eye. In special things that are in the best interest of men in general to know.
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Posted: 11/10/2009 11:49 AM |
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WomanSaver MoFo
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| Drew J wrote: | "Anyway, why do you feel the need to be an apologist for this woman anyway ?"
Weren‘t you paying attention? Team Vagina! MTB is catching **** from other women for knowing to stay away from a woman who as he so excellently put it, "would be tempted" to stray from a boring nice guy like him. Someone on another board I‘m on put it in a quite comically exaggerated but funny way. He said, ‘you know what women understand? my fist. Nothing make‘s a bitch‘s tuna wet like seeing raw male power she can never have.‘ |

Go TEAM!!!!
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Posted: 11/10/2009 12:34 PM |
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Subject: ladies, what about this situation |
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| ToucheBaby wrote: |
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On the bright side....to any woman who has ever dated one....it has given her valuable insight to what she really wants in a man. If you find offense to that....it most certainly will be your loss.
Personally...I think you should feel proud she isnt comparing you to a player. |
its like this, what would your reaction be to a guy that is with you and said, "those hot women I use to date were delicious, but I have a stable woman now"??
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I would most likely faint right there on the spot! I would faint because I just witnessed a friggin man ACT like a man. He just walked into the "real" world.
Whats wrong with you? Stable can be hot. You‘re the one comparing yourself to bad boys. Not your GF. Shes outgrown them. You feel inferior to badboys....thats why you‘re angry.
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who said I was angry? I just didn‘t appreciate the comment. Her friends even looked like they were caught in an awkward moment.
that, and I just don‘t get the sense from women who are attracted to those bad boys don‘t have a good track record of being faithful.
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Posted: 11/10/2009 12:37 PM |
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| Drew J wrote: | "Anyway, why do you feel the need to be an apologist for this woman anyway ?"
Weren‘t you paying attention? Team Vagina! MTB is catching **** from other women for knowing to stay away from a woman who as he so excellently put it, "would be tempted" to stray from a boring nice guy like him. |
hey now, nothing boring about me...I‘m just not full of myself, cocky, and like to act like I‘m the s##t.
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