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"MTB asked for opinions.... I also clarified my answer by saying I wasn‘t there so I did not hear what she said nor how she said it. "

Okay you‘re not brainwashed, just ignorant. READ HIS STORY AGAIN. It was pretty clear that it was a slip of the tongue she didn‘t mean for to get out and that the bad boys still make her wet and she‘d bed one again if she could get away with it. As I said, you can‘t see this because you are trained to play on team vagina. You don‘t want to see what‘s in front of you, because that would mean that MTB is right and you can‘t have that.

"Oh come on Drew, I‘m not that hateful to men. I like MTB."

Then prove it by never again saying something so foolish like you can‘t know what she really meant when it is clear as day. Maybe I‘m wrong about you. Maybe you are trying to be sensitive to MTB and aren‘t a woman pretending to be. Maybe as I said, you‘re just ignorant. maybe you need to read the OP again and again and again until it sinks in. Because it clearly hasn‘t sunk in.

Yes I would.

If that‘s how it came off in the conversation, then that‘s the way the cookie crumbles... and she gets to miss out on you.

I looked at this as a casual conversation with friends and interpreted this comment as “when I was younger, I thought bad boys were fun, but now that I am older I realize that is not what I want.”  I do not see that as flaunting, nor being settled for.  That is my take, but I am very hard to offend.

MTB...why are you comparing yourself to  bad boys?  You realize thats what you‘re doing...dont you? You appear to feel inferior to them. 

So big deal...she has dated players.  Players are ALWAYS FUN.  Thats why they‘re players.  LOL  They‘re totally useless otherwise.  You‘re going to be hard pressed to find a woman who hasnt dated one. She wasnt taking anything away from you...matter a fact she was saying she could TRUST you. 

Those arent easy words for any woman.  You should rethink your stance.

TEEEAAAMMM VAGGINNNAAAA

Ok, let me state it a different way. 

Grow a set and get over it.  You sound pathetic sniveling over a comment that doesn‘t mean ****.

She is probably now thankful she isn‘t with someone who is going disect a comment made jokingly.  She probably realizes now that she would walking on eggshells trying not to hurt your ego.

Goooo Golden Pussies!!

See the differents between me and you Drew is.

I don‘t see things as black and white.  I don‘t see things as man against woman   or woman against man.

Do I see the womans side  yes  I am a woman and I understand their feelings more then I do a mans.

But wrong is wrong,  it doesn‘t matter if you are a man or woman.

MTB

First I think you are a great guy,  I think that Drew and the African guy could learn a lot from you.

The more I though about this,  I realize  that you are the one in the relationship and you are the one that knows this woman,  if you felt offended and though you were being settled for  then  what you did was right.

You should feel loved, respected and cherished in a relationship.  Don‘t get me wrong  I realize it isn‘t always going to be perfect. 

My opinion is,  she realized that she was dating the wrong type of man before.  Most of us do it one time in our life.  Some of us learn from it  some of us don‘t and repeat the same sick cycle over and over again. 

I hope you find somebody that will make you feel like a million dollars,  because there is nothing better then the love of a great person. 

I know men that have raised others children and the children think more of the step father then they do there own father.  Its a crap shoot.  I think that a single parent shouldn‘t bring home everybody the date.  Introduce your date  only when you have gotten to know them and you are in a serious relationship.

so what ? Itt‘s not the best interest of a man to raise someone else‘s child. It‘s just not worth it. A man should look for a young woman to have HIS kids, not to raise another man child. Its just not good.

Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBVMUVt1Aw&feature=PlayList&p=5B68A07DA90B959A&index=103

And IMO a woman should not look for that. Just the fact that some women even consider it, it just shows their character.

I don‘t think I failed at my marriage.  I tend to think I am wiser because of what I have been thru and I look for the red flags that i was blind to before.

But you have failed. You made choices that did not turned out well. Let me ask you this: Did you had a child with this guy you call "bad boy". Is your current husband supporting him and you ?

You don‘t need to answer if you don‘t want to.

Well  what happens when those young girls get older?

Well, my friend, you should grow older together. If it works, works, if don‘t well, you move on. One thing is certain.  settling for women over the hill is something that it‘s not in the best interest of a man to do.

The american pie story is true,  a man I know was dating somebody 18 years younger and she was dumb as a box of rocks. 

So are you implying that all young women are dumb ? Also, you know that men doesn‘t care much for inteligence, right ?

I am sure you have some baggage too.We all have baggage.  Its part of life.  When you love somebody and want to be with them,  you deal with bagage.

You mean, you take the bad boy kid as your own right ?

The point is: Is just not worth for a man to invest in another man child. We ALL have baggage ? No. You can speak only for yourself.

hahaha   boy are you wrong

Care to explain a little further ?

Dude  trust me,  women in there 40  are far more hot sexually then women in there 20‘s.  I didn‘t believe that in my 20 either  but  it is so true.

Yeah, And I don‘t believe that at all. Women at 40 just don‘t look as good. If they are 40, they are probably already divorced or have kids, in others words, forcing you to deal with things you don‘t wan‘t to. Things that are not in the best interest of a man to deal with.

You keep dating young girls that are looking for a father figure.  I will stick with the amazing man that I have.   You keep buying them stuff and partying with them.  I for one grew out of the party stage.  I don‘t do bars anymore.  I love my life and the man that I am with.  We have a great time together and enjoy life.

The most ironic thing is that you admits you are an example of everrything I said. I assumed you would try to hide it, but not only you admits, but you also seem to be proud of it. You are not only the same as the woman Mrtrueblue described, but you are proud of it.

You spent your young years having fun, partying with bad boys in bars, and now that you are old, you found a stable nice guy to settle.

Touche baby here gives another example of how what I said is true, and how many women think:

Let‘s analyze

So big deal...she has dated players.  Players are ALWAYS FUN.  Thats why they‘re players.  LOL  They‘re totally useless otherwise. 

Yeah, right, players are good in bed and for having fun, right ? Now they are USELESS otherwise. So when you NEED a man for things other than fun, then you find a nice guy to settle with.

You‘re going to be hard pressed to find a woman who hasnt dated one. She wasnt taking anything away from you...matter a fact she was saying she could TRUST you. 

Yeas, she can trust him... Unlike the guys she likes to have fun with, the guys she has been with so far.

In others words, he isn‘t what I would like to date, but he stable. He is usefull.

Those arent easy words for any woman.  You should rethink your stance.

He should rethink dating this kind of women or at least having prospectives with them.

Busty spumonte:

Grow a set and get over it.

Growing a set means for her accepting to settle for over the hill women.

  You sound pathetic sniveling over a comment that doesn‘t mean ****.

Now he is pathetic ? So, who is angry now, hm ?

The comment doesn‘t mean as much as the life record of this woman. She is pathetic, not him.

She is probably now thankful she isn‘t with someone who is going disect a comment made jokingly.  She probably realizes now that she would walking on eggshells trying not to hurt your ego.

Who cares if she is thankfull or not ? MTB should be the only thing that MTB should care about, and I think it‘s obvious taht being with this woman isn‘t in his best interest.

Sunny fl:

My opinion is,  she realized that she was dating the wrong type of man before.  Most of us do it one time in our life.  Some of us learn from it  some of us don‘t and repeat the same sick cycle over and over again. 

That is exactly What I am talking about. Women realize they are doing the wrong thing late in their lives. I am not saying women are in their mind scheming with an evil plan like "mwa haha, now that I am young I am going to date bad boys, and when I get old I‘ll pass the bill of my life to a nice guy!!"

What I am simply saying that this is what happens many times.

Can you agree with me on that statement ? Give me a yes or no.

What I am also saying is that is in the best interest of all men to know that.

Can you agree with me on that one ?

I can tell she tried to word it right and even before I said a word, I could tell by the look on her face even she thinks she effed up with what she said.

No she isn‘t.  She is one of the good ones.  She has a nice guy and has already stated that he is much more fun than any bad guy.

She wasn‘t siding with women, she just wanted to know if I misunderstood....and in this situation with my X saying it the way she did....at first glance I can see how someone might think I misunderstood...but I can read between the lines.

well, moot point really as I broke it off with her quite a few months ago.

yes, a bad boy can‘t fit that bill....but I see that she is sacrificing one aspect to gain another.

Not saying a bad boy is superior to me in the sack.  But I think many women perceive a bad boy as excitement.

So if I‘m perceived as "stable", or "nice", or "reliable and faithful".....I‘m not interested in someone that is with me because they are tired of bad boys and are making what they might see as a sacrifice of qualities that attract them to bad boys just so they can have stability.

Well, thats not how it came out.  It was more subtle than the way I put it.

But that is the underlying insinuation.  I was just more upfront with my example.  I think she tried to word it carefully, but I think even she realized what she had insinuated after saying it.