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I am just paying back in the same currency.

I had not attacked him before.

Why don‘t you say anything about him ?

japaneseguy...the first two survey results ...the source is here. if you didnt know there are a whole bunch of survey questions on here.

Well, then it‘s explained. It‘s not a survey made on general public. For example, if I do a survey on www.paternityfraudaustralia.org certainly there I will find a near 100% rate of dudes who were duped in to raise other men children.

i thought this section was for men to ask us questions to get our thoughts on things but when we give our thoughts it just seems to start alot arguing and bickering.

why not just think of it that we are just giving our thoughts instead of being told we are wrong or demeaning us with calling us names.

just a thought.

Sorry, but that is not the case. In my first post here I simply said that is too long and I couldn‘t go through it. I did not directed anything at the topic creator nor tried to offend him.

You cannot say that about his first post to me. That was the first "nasty" remark.

I just payed back in the same currency.

If you care so much report to a moderator and he can come and judge properly.

We can all see that daddy was bad to you. (sarcasm!!)

What an a$$ you are,  you tell him his problem isn‘t worth reading and then you make a remark about his wife.

Short man complex??

Your children may not hear voices raised...but believe me they are not stupid. They know somethings going on...stop fooling yourself, stop trying to fool them.

Um...so because I didn‘t specify what he should do after...that means I‘m recommending counselling...ok Drew...if thats not paranoia I don‘t know what is.

PWND!

All I did was point out your incomplete thought and how you didn‘t take it to the end like you should have. You only said seperation and just left it hanging in the air.

I also of course made the note of you not openly recommending counselling given what was said in the other thread. The fact that you don‘t recommend divorce but only seperation probably just serves to prove my point. That you don‘t want good guys who get ****ed around to even consider divorcing their cheating wives. Not even if they have kids. Not even if you admit they can see through the bull**** and aren‘t having any favours done for them by the dad staying in an unhappy marriage.

The ball is in your court. Do what I suggested earlier. Finish the thought. Since you‘re obviously not keen on divorce, what comes after seperation?

"The fact that you don‘t recommend divorce but only seperation probably just serves to prove my point. That you don‘t want good guys who get ****ed around to even consider divorcing their cheating wives."

Again...this isn‘t a marriage advice bureau Drew...we don‘t make "recommendations" we simply give our opinion as other human beings.

In saying that...you keep trying to make me into something I‘m not...I‘m not really sure what it is you are trying to prove here but trying to make me out to be someone who dissaproves of divorce and is always in favour of counselling is pointless and silly because it isn‘t true...I don‘t even agree with the institution of marriage...therefore how could I disapprove of divorce?? Drew you are losing this argument and failing miserably at proving any point...please stop making such a fool of yourself and making it so easy for me to prove you wrong...I‘m gettning quite embarressed for you.

I‘m not from the US...Here in Ireland divorce is a relatively new phenomena, its less than 10 years old! When there was a referendum on divorce I voted to allow it...so how then can I be "not keen" on divorce? For me...seperation is really just another word for divorce...I‘m really not sure of the difference...Its the end of a marriage yeh? The legal stuff I probably couldn‘t give a sh*t about unless I actually have to end a marriage someday...

My main concern in Daddy of Two‘s story is his children...my opinion is that they should not have to live with two parents who don‘t like each other...this will cause damage...whether Daddy of Two divorces or seperates makes absolutely no difference to me...as long as those kids don‘t have to suffer any more.

And you question...what comes after seperation?

How the hell should I know? In this case the guy hasn‘t even seperated yet...I‘m not psychic!

Again...PWND!

My daddy is a great guy, you can ask my mother, cause probably, unlike you, they are not divorced.

I repeat that I had not directed anything at him, so if he decided to take a shot, he did that at his own risk.

I don‘t care.

I am from Brazil, why don‘t you come here and see if men here have a short man complex ?

I can say the same. Big deal. Just ignore my comment. He should have done that in the first place, and so should you.

He did not simply made a remark about my username. He is clearly assuming things aboout me through my username, and trying to make fun about it. It‘s not very wise considering that he is venting about his personal life to everyone else in the world.

I‘ll change my user name to Africanguy and let‘s see what kind of jokes comes next.

I wasn‘t speaking of your father,

I don‘t believe in that type of childish games.  I was refering to the poster Daddyoftwo.

I am sure there are others that judge me for getting a divorce too.  You have a right to your opinion.  I also have a right to live my life with out a drunk in it.

 Such angry words from everyone. What happened to being supportive ? There is a father in this thread that needs support and advice and maturity from EVERYONE and I could barely go through most of this thread because of someone being quoted or bashed on for someone‘s opinions no matter who is right or not, wether they are right or not by anyones standards. And the best and most simple way to cut any negative posting from anyone especailly from one paticular poster is to be a bigger person and simply ignore it and not give them the fuel needed to keep the flame burning and refocus on the topic about a father and his children and advert away from giving the negativity of this thread anymore attention it has already gotten..

Support this parent regardless what he may do, or what ever he may decide to do even if you may or may not agree with it. Lend an ear, shoulder, and support because that in the long run is what matters most, is to know that others can count on others to be there

> consideration<

If someone knows someone is being a douche, don‘t respond back and let them burry themselves into a hole don‘t seep down onto his level to get dirty.

This is a support group not a clique so lets refocus on why we are all here?????? To support eachother???? In a POSiTITIVE way because there are some people out there who really need it.

Daddy of two kids, you‘re brave and I respect your decision and you‘re a wonderful person , I am in the same place as you are in and I give you props for trying to -keep- it together for the sake of your children because regardless what anyone else says, we as parents in such circumstances put our own happiness last just to try to make sure that our kids are happy. Too many parents I have seen place their own feelings before their children, and they believe if you‘re not happy/ your kids must not be and most try to imply that and their personal experiences into other people‘s situations, but each situation is different so you have to do what you think right for you and your children, , it‘s how we as parents need to conduct ourselves in front of our children and place their welfare before ourselves. Parenting is a selfless job. I do hope everything works out for you and your kids in no matter what reveals in your situation