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*sigh*  ok then, so since you won‘t answer the question, the "dots" connect to you having a man that lied about having a vasectomy and you wound up pregnant....is that accurate?

If so, then you are correct, highly stupid of him.

Good grief...we‘re not talking about the people who HAVE integrity!  The point is...the people who dont.  They‘re the ones who screw it up for everyone else.  I couldnt agree with you more...in the fact we are all responsible for our own lives.  What we arent responsible for are the schmucks who feel a sense of entitlement and take advantage of others.  Accountability 100% on them.  I find it telling... I didnt hear you speak one single word to hold the guilty to any standard.  None.

You don‘t hold any stantards to the world out there. The world is what it is. If we get a killer, we sentence him to death. But that brings life back to those he killed ? No. Your responsibility is to be safe.

It doesn‘t matter really because what I am saying it‘s not about any other person other than you. For example, if you don‘t use the sitbelt, hit your car and die, is your fault for not preparing for it. You have to always consider all possibilities. The chinese used to say: "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."

A rich guy must have a pre nupcial agreement before gets married. It‘s better than what happened to Paul maccartney.

If your girfrien is pregnant, have a DNA test. No harm done for a negative result.

Your theory sounded like it came straight out of a book I call "The perfect guide to becoming a sociopath."  The Quran. LOL!  Ex...if a thief gets away with robing you....it means allah gave him his blessing and you‘re the one who chose wrong.  However,if the thief gets caught....it means the thief chose wrong. Thats about as ignorant as it gets.  You have shown the same mindset.

I don‘t believe in a supernatural entity who gives blessing to people, thief or not. And I am not proposing that anyone should engage in illegal or irresponsible behaviour as long they can get away with it.

Religious books never been full of logic, or been required to it. The bible also has too many pearls that you should check out. For example, it states that war and disease are brought from God. No wonder George W. Dumb believes he speaks with Him.

 but I don‘t think this should be the focus of this discussion.

Interesting choice of words my friend.  Nobody is asking the world to "submit" (except,of course,muslims lol) The rest of the world just wishes everyone would act like they have an ounce of integrity.  Hence,the world would suffer less from fools. It all boils down to selfishness.  Like it or not. 

Saying things doesn‘t change the world. The truth is, there are all kinds of dangers, lies and deceit out there, and naivety is the main thing that will make you fall "victim" to them.

There is such thing as  right and wrong.  

Who decides what is right or wrong ? The bible ? The law ? For example, the law of some american states will make a dude pay for child support for a child that is not his. Is that right ?

The amount of integrity you hold for yourself determines on which side you stand. 

And that gives you nothing. Remember Jesus, Ghandi ?

Since you like to talk about religion, the book in the bible called "eclesiastic", written(suposedly) by Solomon, says that there are justs who die in their justice, and unjusts who prolong their life with their injustice. How about that ?

MTB...this isnt about me.  What happened to me could have happened to ANYONE who has ever trusted their signifiant other concerning birthcontrol. Whomever posted the orginal post about the vasectomy was pointing out how stupid the woman ‘s actions were.  I posted the stupid actions of a man.  Hence...as I stated in my orginal post.  BOTH genders can be ridiculously s.t.u.p.i.d.

Why keep score?

What do you do every morning when you wake up?  Do you expect or trust the sun will come up?

Well, it will.

  While driving down the road...do you expect or trust nobody will crash into  you and kill you?

I never know if a drunk driver in a giant truck is going to crash on me. Anyway, I AM GOING TO USE THE SEATBELT. It‘s so hard to understand ?

  Entering into a new relationship...do you expect or trust to be treated with respect?  Are you guaranteed any of these things? 

That is why you must be prepared to leave and be carefull when entering relationhips. If you go investing everything in a person you barely knows and when things don‘t go well you are surprised ?

By your standard....you‘re saying if the sun dosent come up.  Its your fault for believing it will come up.

Hmm ? You should have come witha  better example. The sun will come up.

  If someone slams into your car and kills you.  Its your fault for driving down the road. 

Well, if you are not using the seatbelts, don‘t have airbags, don‘t pay attention to the road and you die because of that, well, it kinda is.

 If your spouse chooses to be unfaithful or hits you.  Its your fault.  This dosent sound curious to you??

If you got married, you already had taken that risk and many others. It‘s your fault. If you are a man, and you get married without a prenup, you  know that the women can cheat on you and still take all your money. So you know what you are gambling with. It‘s like beting your life on a race them complaining that you lost.

Its not that you "dont" protect yourself...its that you cannot protect yourself from the actions of others.

Yes, you can. For example, you can never get married.

  We have no guarantees in life.  All you can do is trust. 

Ask a few members of this site where trust had taken them...

 You continue to say everyone is responsible for everything that happens to them.  Abuse of trust will always be accountable to the abuser.  The only thing an abused person is required  or accountable for ....is to find their feet.  Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Everyone is responsible for what happens to them. Like I said, many people have tendencies to do stupid things and them victmize themselves so they feel good about their actions. A good number of women do that. Many women are addicted to their victimism.

BTW I dont believe the quran has anything to do with religion.  I know more about muslims than I want to. I think islam at the very least is a cult.  Just because you consider it a religion dosent mean the rest of the world agrees with you.

What is the difference between a religion and a cult ? It‘s mainly a bunch of people who believe in legends like god, Jesus, Moses, Mohamed, so on and on. If you ask them, they say it‘s religion. If YOU consider a cult or not, it doesn‘t change that is more than 1/5 of world population. And from what you have said,  you don‘t know anything about muslims that isn‘t biased or ethnophobic.

Alrighty sunshine......what happens if you‘re killed while wearing your seatbelt!  LOL Who‘s fault is it then??  LMAO!

Well, then it‘s destiny. It‘s not an excuse not to use it.

Oh...and how do you know the sun "will" come up? LOLOLOLOLO

It has been for at least a few billion years. You have bigger worries.

Alrighty sunshine......what happens if you‘re killed while wearing your seatbelt!  LOL Who‘s fault is it then??  LMAO!

Well, then it‘s destiny. It‘s not an excuse not to use it.