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| Uncle Don |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 7:37 PM |
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I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last?
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Posted: 4/1/2008 8:30 PM |
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we seem to be short of men around here just now. i am sure mr. true blue and png will show up soon.
in the mean time, this is the section where men ask for women‘s advice.
so i won‘t let the caption of your thread stand in my way since i seem to remember you visting the woman‘s only section a time or two.
so here it is: yes. you are sad. you have had a major blow to your psyche not to mention your manhood and self-esteem.
its called grieving. it takes a long long time to put something like this behind you, whether the marriage holds or not.
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Posted: 4/3/2008 10:08 AM |
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Thanks Lorrie. I always enjoy reading your posts. I never know what to expect.
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Posted: 4/4/2008 6:32 AM |
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Uncle, are going to counseling with your wife? And are you in counseling by yourself? As lorrie said, you are grieving. Grief sometimes will pop up at inopportune times. There is nothing wrong with it, but I am a firm believer in counseling so that you can work through the grief. And we all grieve at different rates so please do not expect that you will be okay in a few month‘s.
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Posted: 4/4/2008 12:35 PM |
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We went last summer for about 10 weeks before I actually caught her, and then for another 10 weeks afterwards till we financially could not afford to go any more. Our insurance still owes us some money for the visits. It would be nice to say forget the money just go anyways and find a way to pay it. Not that easy when we are trying to find a way to pay our mortgage, insurance, business related expenses, and now our daughter is going next year to college.
I undertstand what you are saying, and thank you for your support and advice. I will be just fine, I just need to let it out from time to time instead of keeping it locked up inside me. Can‘t talk to wife, she gets very upset and says, "Why do you keep bringing up the same thing over and over? Why can‘t you just let it go?" She is right, and I know I must do that, but unless you have been on this side of the tracks so to speak you don‘t realize how bad it is upstairs. She does not understand that.
Regarding websites for men to support men, notice how many guys jumped on here to help another guy. It just does not happen. Guys don‘t talk to guys about relationships like women do. And guys don‘t have good advice like women do. I have told this soty before,
Tooltime Tim was talking to his wife and she says "But Tim why can‘t you just talk to him about it." Tim says "Cause guys just don‘t talk to other guys about relationships". And then she says, "Yeah but he was in bed with another woman". and then Tim says, "Yeah but that‘s not a relationship". LOL Not funny, is too, but I think you get my point.
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Posted: 4/4/2008 1:44 PM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: |
We went last summer for about 10 weeks before I actually caught her, and then for another 10 weeks afterwards till we financially could not afford to go any more. Our insurance still owes us some money for the visits. It would be nice to say forget the money just go anyways and find a way to pay it. Not that easy when we are trying to find a way to pay our mortgage, insurance, business related expenses, and now our daughter is going next year to college.
I undertstand what you are saying, and thank you for your support and advice. I will be just fine, I just need to let it out from time to time instead of keeping it locked up inside me. Can‘t talk to wife, she gets very upset and says, "Why do you keep bringing up the same thing over and over? Why can‘t you just let it go?" She is right, and I know I must do that, but unless you have been on this side of the tracks so to speak you don‘t realize how bad it is upstairs. She does not understand that.
Regarding websites for men to support men, notice how many guys jumped on here to help another guy. It just does not happen. Guys don‘t talk to guys about relationships like women do. And guys don‘t have good advice like women do. I have told this soty before,
Tooltime Tim was talking to his wife and she says "But Tim why can‘t you just talk to him about it." Tim says "Cause guys just don‘t talk to other guys about relationships". And then she says, "Yeah but he was in bed with another woman". and then Tim says, "Yeah but that‘s not a relationship". LOL Not funny, is too, but I think you get my point.
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Don Your wife is wrong, she needs to talk to you about it everytime that you want to. She needs to accept responsiblity for her actions just like you did. If she isnt willing to tell you everything (maybe not every detail) she is still hiding something.
Sorry just my honest opinion.
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Posted: 4/4/2008 2:00 PM |
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Why can‘t you just let it go?"
take her hand, tell her: " i want to let it go and as soon as i can, i will.
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Posted: 4/4/2008 3:51 PM |
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Hey girls, 1st, 1st. She knows she was wrong. To ask her more about it would only make her angry and I am not sure I need to know anymore. Now for me to sit at the Easter dinner table and start thinking of stuff, (my mom passed 3/29/2005) and she sees a tear in my eye, she got all upset and very quiet with the kids at the table and I know it was all dads fault cause I can‘t let it go.
2nd, If I were to go and hold her hand and tell her that I wanted it to go away she would start crying and then I would ask her what is wrong and she would reply with you have to keep bring this back up over and over again.
I was merely asking the men, but evidentally they have not read this, can‘t relate, had not emotions or just don‘t want to talk with me, But when can I expect to feel normal again with out that empty betrayed heartbroken feeling? Is it unusual to be where I am at 8 months after D-Day?
Thanks for your help and support. It really does cheer one up to know others care.
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Posted: 4/4/2008 4:15 PM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: | Hey girls, 1st, 1st. She knows she was wrong. To ask her more about it would only make her angry and I am not sure I need to know anymore. Now for me to sit at the Easter dinner table and start thinking of stuff, (my mom passed 3/29/2005) and she sees a tear in my eye, she got all upset and very quiet with the kids at the table and I know it was all dads fault cause I can‘t let it go.
2nd, If I were to go and hold her hand and tell her that I wanted it to go away she would start crying and then I would ask her what is wrong and she would reply with you have to keep bring this back up over and over again.
I was merely asking the men, but evidentally they have not read this, can‘t relate, had not emotions or just don‘t want to talk with me, But when can I expect to feel normal again with out that empty betrayed heartbroken feeling? Is it unusual to be where I am at 8 months after D-Day?
Thanks for your help and support. It really does cheer one up to know others care.
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you won‘t want to hear this. when i heard it, my first thought was, blow it out ya ass:
it takes 2 years.
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Posted: 4/7/2008 3:00 PM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: | I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last?
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See, this right here is what I am talking about when I advice divorce in the face of infidelity.
You had talked about everything being a learning experience and that you and your wife were on the mend.
But here you are now with these feelings of despair. That is the damage that is caused by cheating and these feelings will come back from time to time. If you think you can handle that, then proceed as before.
If not, then the only way to ditch these reoccuring feelings is to get rid of the source of your pain....and that source is your wife. I know divorce is a hard pill to swallow and nothing someone wants to think about.
but the alternative is what you are going through. Like I said, if you don‘t want to divorce and can handle repeating what you are going through now from time to time, then stay with her.
Otherwise, lance that boil.
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Posted: 4/7/2008 3:02 PM |
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| lorrie wrote: | Why can‘t you just let it go?"
take her hand, tell her: " i want to let it go and as soon as i can, i will.
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Well what that will do is show her that she has him wrapped around her little finger and if she cheats again, she can get away with it.
She needs to know that he is angry about this, if he is actually angry about it.
If all she sees is a cowering puppy dog, she‘ll be empowered and knows she can call the shots.
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Posted: 4/7/2008 3:41 PM |
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| lorrie wrote: | Why can‘t you just let it go?" take her hand, tell her: " i want to let it go and as soon as i can, i will. |
Well what that will do is show her that she has him wrapped around her little finger and if she cheats again, she can get away with it. She needs to know that he is angry about this, if he is actually angry about it. If all she sees is a cowering puppy dog, she‘ll be empowered and knows she can call the shots.
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I agree with Mr. Trueblue.
When she says, "Why keep bringing it up?" Or," Why can‘t you just let it go?" It is because she does not want to face what she has done!
She should answer any and all questions honestly. If she had the audacity to cheat, then she should be bold enough to face anything you bring.
She wants you to just forget all about it, like it was nothing, just a mistake you should over look!
She apprently has no idea she has cut your heart in half. Most cheaters do not know nor do they care about the destruction they have caused.
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Posted: 4/9/2008 4:43 AM |
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many women on this website have stayed in their marriages to work it out.
i don‘t think asking for more time makes don a wimp or gives her the power.
don confronted the cheaters. she has shown remorse and they have gone to counseling.
you can not move forward dragging the baggage with you.
his asking for more time to let go doesn‘t give her anything other then the indication that its taking longer for him then her.
if you love your spouse and agree to forgive then both of you have to work on the "forgetting‘ part.
i still don‘t know everything that went on with cakeman and i for one don‘t want the details.
some women seem to want to know every single detail so that there is nothing private between their husbands and the other woman anymore. i understand that.
i don‘t love my ex and i have no wish to know. those two can go fly a kite if they can muster up enough money to buy one.
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Posted: 4/9/2008 4:45 AM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: | I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last?
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once again don, this is the section where men ask ladies for advice.
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:14 AM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: | |
I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last? ^ 5‘s Guys! Thanks!
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Grief can enter your soul in a moment, And not loose it‘s hold for a life time. T.
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Posted: 4/9/2008 9:42 AM |
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many women on this website have stayed in their marriages to work it out.
i don‘t think asking for more time makes don a wimp or gives her the power. |
You are right. Simply asking for more time does not make him a wimp.
But he has to be careful in the way he says it, if he does it like some whipped puppy dog, then he‘ll come off as weak and she will realize that she DOES have power over him.
He needs to convey to her about needing more time, but in a strong upright way.
The way you put it makes it look like is willing to take whatever punishment. If someone cheats and the reaction from their so-called "loved one" is that of a "wimp", then they will realize they have them wrapped around their finger.
All I am saying is if someone takes back a cheater and is having problems shaking the betrayal from their mind, conveying that they need more time is fine, just like you said.
But you don‘t ask for more time, you simply tell them they need to be patient and have some understanding.
Nobody should have to "ask" for understanding from a cheater.
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Posted: 4/9/2008 9:47 AM |
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| lorrie wrote: | if you love your spouse and agree to forgive then both of you have to work on the "forgetting‘ part. |
you really think anyone ever "forgets" being betrayed?
They can work on things to where its not thought about on a daily basis, but make no mistake, it will never be forgotten.
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Posted: 4/10/2008 12:05 AM |
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| Uncle Don wrote: | I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last? ^ 5‘s Guys! Thanks! |
once again don, this is the section where men ask ladies for advice.
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Most curious Lorrie.
Why did you feel the need to repeat that?
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Posted: 4/10/2008 4:04 AM |
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I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last?
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once again don, this is the section where men ask ladies for advice. |
Most curious Lorrie.
Why did you feel the need to repeat that?
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you repeated yourself don
I was merely asking the men, but evidentally they have not read this, can‘t relate, had not emotions or just don‘t want to talk with me,
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| Uncle Don wrote: | I have always been an emotiional person but lately find myself with tears in my eyes for every damn thing that comes along. Whatsup with that? How long will this uncontrolled emotion showup? Is it a sign of the pain I am experiencing from my wifes confession to the affair? I don‘t mind the tears. And I can cry in front of a large crowd without hesitation, does‘nt bother me. It‘s been that way forever. Lately it is just a pin drops brings tears to my eyes. Just a little undetstanding and explanation of why and how long will this last?
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still trying to figure that one out myself man. hit me back if you find out before me.
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