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fungirl270
  Posted: 3/3/2010 9:25 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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i have been in a relationship with this man for 5 years now and i hate to admit he is a player, a cheater, whatever you want to call it, and i am so heart broken over it, i can‘t seem to let him go even though i know i should ... we are in a long distance relationship at this time since nov 09 and probly wont be together until fall time ... the things is is that i think he may be flirting because he is lonely, but thats not good either, i dont want to believe that he would actually BE with someone, he just is looking for woman companionship to fulfill loneliness and really wont actually BE with someone?  or am i being dumb here :( ... another thing is that i happened to have access to one of his email accounts and see that him and this one woman are talking and trying to meet but they cant seem to connect with their work schedules, so obviously it looks like he is willing to BE with someone i guess :(  and the thing is he is still saying he loves me, etc. etc. etc. .... damn!  what goes in on their heads these men when they think to still "love" you, but cheat!! what the heck do we do to deal with this ... inspire me please!  i am too up in age to be dealing with this bull and broken heart, i dont think i can trust men ever again!  but i dont want to be alone :(

shally
  Posted: 3/8/2010 8:06 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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You would probably get more replies if you post this in the Catch A Cheater forum.

Please don‘t allow fear to control your decisions. You don‘t want to be alone so you settle. Sounds awful doesn‘t it?

Forget him for a minute. I want to know why you think it‘s ok for someone to treat you this way. Your life is a gift, each moment, each sunrise. This isn‘t how you want to live your life. Wondering, checking, snooping.

We can‘t make another be who we want them to be. We can‘t make someone ‘be good‘. Dig deep inside and ask yourself, why am I settling. Why do you think you deserve to be treated this way.

Let me tell you what you deserve, you deserve to be honored as a woman, you deserve a man that will make you feel like the most loved woman in the room, you deserve a man that will adore you. Not all men are liars cheats and a$$holes. There are men in this world that are kind and loving and good. Searching for the same thing that women are. You‘ve just got a bad apple.

You matter. Now what are you going to do about it?

      

Seriously if you‘ll move this post you will get more replies. Just copy your post and re-post it.

Please keep posting. There‘s a lot of really great women here who would love nothing more than to help you through this. Honest. Most of us have been where you are, we KNOW what it feels like.




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  Posted: 3/9/2010 3:49 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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The Letter
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The following is a letter I wrote to a woman who emailed me. She had found that after gaining some weight the man who was with her had refused to ‘love‘ her the way she was. Her letter described torrents of abuse, infidelity, and disdain from a man she proposed to ‘love‘.

Hello,

First off, let me say that when I read your letter I was so moved emotionally that I honestly had to ‘put it away‘ for a day before I was able to even answer it. I want you to know how very sorry I am for all this emotional pain and turmoil you are going through. You must realize that this pain of yours has to ‘stop‘, don‘t you?

I will try to answer your letter - in my own opinion, of course. You have the right to listen to me, or to disregard what I say. Whatever your choice is, let me warn you that you probably won‘t like what I have to say to you - at all!

I can see from your letter that you, like me, are and can be perfectly content with yourself and your own company. Unfortunately, somewhere over the course of the last year you have forgotten that. Somewhere over the course of the last year you have lost yourself into that of another.

I know all about the ‘soulmate‘ image we can create in our minds. I, myself, had always believed that there was only one true soulmate for each of us - and even that I had met mine (he died in our fourth year together). But, if you think about it, isn‘t it amazing that our ‘one and only‘ not only happens to exist on our planet, and in our solar system - but in our lifetime, usually live within 100 miles of us, and are even in the same age range! What a coincidence! In other words, one and only soulmate - humbug!

You seem like a very intelligent, astute woman who has a good head on her shoulders and is not easily persuaded by charm. Yet, what scares me is how much you are willing to change ‘you‘ and how much ‘garbage‘ you are willing to take just to have this man in your life. Another thing that amazes me is that you tend to stick up for him, completely abolishing him from any wrong-doing. You seem to have an excuse for everything he has done, i.e. it was because of depression/sexual needs/lack of physical attraction/not wanting to hurt me, etc. Why can you not see this man for the selfish liar that he has proven himself to be - over and over again? (Told you you wouldn‘t like what I had to say.) I don‘t really believe that you are that ‘desperate‘ to have a mate that you would put up with this, but I do believe you have subconsciously put your blinders on to the true facts about him - maybe out of your ‘need‘ to have him in your life. I often wonder why people are so willing to completely change themselves into that of another person just to ‘keep‘ a mate? You must be ‘you‘, or you will forever be living a lie. Your mate must love you for ‘you‘ or you will forever be walking on eggshells, trying not to let the ‘real you‘ slip out. Who wants to live like that? Too, there seems to be a lot of misunderstood issues in the bedroom area and I have to wonder; do you always want to spend your sex-life together worrying that you are doing something wrong, or too unaggressive, too overweight, not firm enough, not assertive enough - or that any minute he could put a ‘sex ad‘ in the paper looking for more because you didn‘t satisfy him? In fact, I really have to question the faithfulness of this man from day one.

Obviously, this man does not want to communicate with you on a serious level. He wants to keep things light and airy - in other words, he wants his cake and eat it too. He wants to have you in his life, but not have to feel obligated or committed to you. It‘s always been my opinion ( and proven to me time and again) that one cannot remain ‘just friends‘ with someone that they are in love with, or sexually involved with. It‘s just NOT possible. And, no, I don‘t believe he is going through such a ‘self-discovery‘ process that you should remain meekly (and weakly) in the sidelines waiting for him - hoping beyond hope that he won‘t find another. Why would you want a man that feels he has to sow all his wild oats somewhere else before plowing your fields?

His ‘want ad‘ seeking a "more sexually aggressive woman, that is not as ‘fat‘" has me concerned. This man, and his ‘sex-want‘ ads, obviously has some major ‘issues‘ that you are choosing to ignore. He is not someone I would want to spend my life with, nor father my children. Could you honestly ever relax with a man like that? Do you think that perhaps you are ‘glamorizing‘ him and your time together in the past, simply because the thought of being out of a relationship is too painful? I have to wonder if you are subconsciously making him and the relationship better than it actually was?

I sense, too, some ‘control‘ and ‘power‘ issues on his part. Verbal abuse? As most abusers can be, did he come on strong and charming? Did he make you feel special? Possibly, this man was such a charmer (as most abusers are) that you really did think the relationship was wonderful, and he was wonderful - and you will remain adamant to those beliefs - even at the cost of your emotional well-being. This is called psychological-abduction and is very common in verbally/emotionally abusive relationships. Before they are even aware of it, the abused becomes a ‘walking-disciple‘ of the abuser, completely entranced by the abusers ‘control‘ over them. And without logical reasoning. It is apparant that this man has proven himself to be a liar over and over again, and has insulted you, making you appear to be at fault. This is a form of mental/verbal/emotional abuse and if continued will only escalate. Do you want to be with a man that you can‘t trust, a man who‘s word is about as good as last week‘s bread? a man that makes you feel inferior? A man that makes you feel that if only you could ‘fix‘ this or that about yourself than everything would be okay? A man that can take a reasonably secure, self-confident woman and subtly turn her into an emotional basket-case in a matter of a few months?

You say that you believe the type of woman he is looking for is ‘you‘, except for a few minor exceptions, i.e. ‘overweight‘ and ‘sexual issues/misunderstandings‘. Those are not ‘minor‘ exceptions! Those are major exceptions! Also, it seems like you are very willing and eager to ‘change‘ in order to be his ‘dream woman‘. You also feel that if you are just given more time/chances to be more sexually aggressive, or thinner, or this, or that - that you can change his mind. Gimme a break! Don‘t you, at some point, want to be ‘you‘? Which, I believe, is not a thin, sexually aggressive woman. Maybe you should stop trying to be what "he‘s looking for" and start concentrating on what "you‘re looking for" - and, no, he‘s not the "one-and-only" man for you. I believe you have, perhaps, ‘molded him‘ (in your mind) into your one-and-only, but that might be because you desperately wanted him, or needed him, to be. Remember, like me, you were once perfectly content with your own company.  

My personal opinion is for you to try and forget about him. Don‘t contact him again. Don‘t confront him on his lies. Give him back to himself and move on with your life. Thank God for bringing him into your life for a while, and then let go and let God (or kismet) lead your life where it may. Who knows what waits around the next corner? By letting go and moving on you are forcing him to do one of two things. One, if he TRULY loves you he will ‘wake up‘ and seek you, wanting to reconcile. Or two, he will let you go and move on (which he seems to have done already, anyway). One of these two things is the only answer you‘ll need. You can‘t keep trying to remain in his life by changing the both of you - trying to mold you both into the ‘perfect soulmates‘ fantasy. It just doesn‘t work that way! It only succeeds in making you crazy with grief, and worry, and stress, and anxiety. This whole situation is obviously tearing you apart, as the pain that was evident in your letter tore me apart. My heart just wept for you. As painful as it may sound, you really need to let this man go (at least for now) and back off from him and the relationship. Get back to ‘you‘ and your life. Most people are afraid that if they back off a little that the object of their affection will move on and eventually forget about them. But, ironically, the real reason is that they, themselves, are afraid that if they back off that THEY will forget about the object of their affection, and they don‘t want to do this. They are so ‘in need‘ of having someone to love that the fear of losing that love is all-consuming. My advice remains the same - let it go. Let him go. Give him back to himself. Trust God to lead you. God probably has some wonderful plans for you, but you‘ll never know what they are if you stand adamant in this ‘limbo‘ - refusing to take that bend in the road and go around that ‘unchartered‘ corner.

A great way to rediscover yourself is to walk. Go for a walk. Today. Tomorrow. Every day. If you ever want to meet ‘you‘ just take off walking! Not only do you get to know ‘you‘ again (something we lose sight of in a relationship) but you end up losing weight, having great legs, and a terrific tan!

Again, I am very sorry if I seem to be cruel in my answer. That is not my intention! My intent is to help you find yourself again.

"A man who cannot see past an ‘imperfect‘ body, also cannot see past a ‘perfect‘ one."

~by Tigress Luv



shally
  Posted: 3/14/2010 9:48 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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Kahlan you‘re a sweetheart! You really are. I just love what you posted! Awesome! 

I especially loved this statement ~

A great way to rediscover yourself is to walk. Go for a walk. Today. Tomorrow. Every day. If you ever want to meet ‘you‘ just take off walking! Not only do you get to know ‘you‘ again (something we lose sight of in a relationship) but you end up losing weight, having great legs, and a terrific tan!

I thank God everyday for my legs and the ability to walk. It renews my spirit daily.

fungirl, I really wish you would check back in and let us know how you are doing. We‘re here for you! 


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  Posted: 3/20/2010 5:58 PM Subject: need support and encouragement
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hi there, thanks for you encouragement, i cry as i read the responses, because i know what i need to do, but i just cant get there, so basically i am still the same as my first post for support, but just wanted to thank you for your response.   i know im not ready yet to let go, but i think it will happen soon, i think its going to a spur of the moment thing with him because i just wont be able to take it anymore all of a sudden, rather than trying to plan out letting him go ... would be nice to just let him go with no apparent anger, would be better for me

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  Posted: 3/21/2010 11:01 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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fungirl270 wrote:
hi there, thanks for you encouragement, i cry as i read the responses, because i know what i need to do, but i just cant get there, so basically i am still the same as my first post for support, but just wanted to thank you for your response.   i know im not ready yet to let go, but i think it will happen soon, i think its going to a spur of the moment thing with him because i just wont be able to take it anymore all of a sudden, rather than trying to plan out letting him go ... would be nice to just let him go with no apparent anger, would be better for me


First and above all ~ 

Hon, we are not going to judge you for staying. This has to be when you are ready. Sure we can give you our opinions but you have to do what‘s right for you. In your time, not ours. 

Sure it‘s easy for me to say, dump his ass. But I am not living your life feeling your feelings. I do though believe you are a smart woman, one that knows her heart well. And when you have had enough, and you will. It‘ll hit you like a ton of bricks and you‘ll be outta there.

Please keep posting and read the other women‘s stories while you‘re here. You could and can be a great source of strength for some of the women here, as you are going through the same thing.

Read Tinkey‘s story in the Women‘s section, read brazil‘s story, I think it‘s in the Cheater‘s forum.

Did you move your post? I‘ll go look.

Please stick around here. You just may find the answers and support you need.


Rhiannon
  Posted: 3/27/2010 3:23 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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Fun Girl:  Many of us here have loved well and not too wisely.  Many of us know what it feels like to love a man and to discover that he‘s no damn good.  The pits of it is, it sometimes takes a while for the heart to catch up with the head.

Intellectually, I am sure you know what to do.  Like Shally said, it is easy for any one of us to say "Dump him."  I know from my personal experience that I could not truly do it until I was ready.

The kind of man you are describing is the kind of man who will make you mieserable.  As tough as it is to comtemplate leaving someone you are so in love with, staying can also feel like pure torture.These kinds of behaviors will make someone crazy.

A relationhip without trust is not a relationship at all.  And any relationship without trust will also lead to a relationship without respect.  It is really difficult to respect anyone who lies and cheats.  You will eventually grow to hate him.

I can tell you that a man who respects you does not treat you this way.

Life is short.  What do you want for yourself?  What makes you happy?  What do you enjoy doing?  If you could imagine a happy and fulfilled life for yourself, what would it be?



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  Posted: 3/30/2010 6:29 AM Subject: need support and encouragement
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fungirl...so many of us have been at the point of "i will never trust a man ever again" and some of us more than once. you posted this in the inspitation section and i wonder if you are looking for inspiration to help you decide what to do. fungirl, it may be hard to trust men but we sure have to trust ourselves to see things as they really are, not rely on hope so much, and inspire ourselves.

i dont believe in the internet dating thing because there are just way to many things we dont know about him. i do think that your intuition that he is lonely and wants a woman is probably true. with him wanting to meet with another woman tells me that you might not be that special one for him. it is kind of like he is dipping a net into an aquarium full of fish to see what fish he can get.

anyways...let us know what your going to do.



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