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Hiya Mr Unpopulartruth

First off I am posting this to you here because I note in the mini novel going on alongside this in the general section here at WS, that you hoped I was reading one of your many posts.

I read what I could and what my failing eyesight and bedraggled brain cell would allow.

I wonder if you are familiar with the concept of  “normlessness”? A concept devised by Emile Dirkheim? I am confident that you are as your intelligence appears to flow as rapidly and freely as your sperm.

A norm is an expectation of how people will behave, and it takes the form of a rule that is socially rather than formally / naturally enforced.

I happen to believe there is strength and sense in this concept alongside other social theories.

I don’t disagree at all with the whole notion of men and women out there in this world, having sex with who they like, when they like, and as often as they like. If it floats your boat, then let your boat float.

I merely consider that other factors influence our behaviours as well, rather than your single minded opinion that it stems from natural instincts alone. With respect to sexual ones that break the "norm" shall we say, I think there is thin line between being liberated and actually "acting out".

I disagree with there being a gender hierarchy naturally to uphold male dominance, I believe it is socially constructed so if that makes me a hippy, I’ll hippy my way on.

I am not saying it is wrong to give in to desires and wants, in fact I think we should be true to ourselves. However I maintain in my beliefs that for the social majority it is in "tune" to  given situations at given times. Hence my understanding of this world and further understanding that how we behave or react to these natural instincts is INFLUENCED by outside factors. I don’t see how they / it can not be.

You are the exception apparently, however saying that, neither you or I speak for the rest of the population.

If you "get it about" as much as you say, no protection and all, you have been extremely lucky to date.

Tula (though Hippy1969 is now looking good for a name change)

Jeez Tula, I‘m not blind! What‘s with the font size? LOL!

First of all, No, I never said that I don‘t use protection. With strangers, I use condoms, with female friends, or girlfriends, I insist that they get on the pill, which they‘re usually on anyway.

Emile Durkheim? Normlessness? Sorry, it‘s been a loooong time since philosophy class. But I think I get the gist of what you‘re saying.

Yes we humans do act and react differently depending on specific socially constructed circumstances. For example, just because I see a hot woman walking down the sidewalk, doesn‘t mean I‘m gonna run to her, wrestle her to the gound, tear her pants and underwear off, and start giving her oral sex! For one thing, that‘s how you catch gingivitis LOL. For another, that would be not just illegal, but inappropriate for the socially constructed circumstances of mine and her specific social arrangement at the time - two passersby.

Yes, unless we‘re social retards, we are not going to get naked and start screwing everything that moves in the work place, or other inappropriate place. Society does have rules of propriety that we must follow. Certain socially constructed circumstances are not conducive to expressing our natures and some are. I would never scratch my private parts in public or do something else that‘s socially awkward.

That‘s not the point I was making. I was trying to illustrate an ideological principle, not the practical social circumstances that sometimes do and sometimes don‘t allow the full expression of that principle.

Principles are immutable and may be supressed during socially constructed circumstances that call for their suppression, but during your free time, you should "construct" (although I hesitate to use that word) a morality which coincides with evolutionary principles and nature‘s plan for you and your species.

Certain women here, for example, have a sexual morality which is a Darwinian blind alley and hold to this uptight morality regardless of the practical circumstances in which they find themselves. This is evolutionarily unsound.

Practical socially constructed circumstances serving as obstacles to what you want to do in the moment are not the same thing as you having a moral ideology which is contrary to the moral ideology of nature and the universe which created you.

If two adults of the opposite sex like each other, there is no reason they shouldn‘t have sex! Socially constructed IDEOLOGIES such as religion which serve to seperate us into US and THEM and detach the human being from his or her own natural source and prevents them from seeing the essential oneness of  existence (namely, that which is essence in you is also essence in me and therefore, there is no reason to be afraid to merge the two) are the ones which are based on lies - social brainwashings saying things like, women shouldn‘t enjoy sex, blah, blah.

We can have socially constructed circumstances and react accordingly to them but let‘s not have socially constructed ideological lies which serve to separate us from the truth of our natural instincts and prevent us from fulfilling those instincts and truly living life to the fullest. That‘s all I‘m saying.

I hope I‘ve at least somewhat clarified my position.  

Oooooooh, I‘m so scared! LOL!

Maybe they will never hear me. Maybe they are so into their bible thumping sheep mentality that they will filter everything I say through that mentality and hear only meaningless white noise. But that doesn‘t mean I should stop talking.

The lonely but persistent voice of conscience may be nagging and annoying, but that small voice of truth should never go away. Maybe one day, at least one of them will break out of their bubble temporarily and listen. If so, I will have accomplished something. At the very least, being that small persistent voice of reason, the tiny light in their darkness, designed to enlighten them at best and trouble their spirits at worst, is a duty as well as a pleasure.

awww shally I feel the same about you!

Keep speculating on who you think I am. You‘ve no idea. We all know who you think this is....you are ‘all knowing‘. Do you really believe you all have only outed one person? Do you all think that there is only one person from this fourm that thinks your bullies? Do you all think you‘ve only hurt one person? Guess again. You have hurt numerous women that have come on this fourm for help. You call them trolls, liers, whores and much more. You put them down to the point where they leave and you have your forum back to yourselves. Open your eyes. There are more forms of hurt than what you all have gone through. You have made women feel worse than they did when they came here. Not one of you feel bad about that. Not one of you! In your book, there‘s only one way and thats your way.  Open up your closed little minds and see the real world. Stop degrading women. Stop making women feel worse about themselves. Geeeeezzzzz.........

THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST TYPED.

Would you go to a site for gay‘s to preach about infidelity,  would you go to a political site  to complain about your boyfriends sexual habits?

Why the hell would you come to a site  that is for,  betrayed and abused women when you are a woman that is screwing married men? 

There are a lot of ways to hurt other then being cheated on.  There are sites for that too.

Think what you want to glowing,  I for one haven‘t ran anybody off of here.  I voice my opinion.  Like it or not.  That is up to you.   Your so called bullying is so funny!!  We sure have helped a lot of women here.

Plus you have spewed nothing but negative in every post. 

Get over yourself.

With all due respect Glowing,

I dont know you and I‘m assuming you dont know me. I most certainly dont know details like where you live etc????

Thats bizarre to say the least.

I dont speak for everyone else at all, only for myself and what I believe in.

I am far from a know it all either as it goes.

I just know what life and education has taught me.

Given my own personal journey through life to date, I will latch on to and pick up the bits that are relevant to ME, no one else.

Like I said to Mr Unpopulartruth in a previous post, I wouldnt be so BOLD to assume everyone thought and did like I do.

That what I said went!!

Tula

Jeez Tula, I‘m not blind! What‘s with the font size? LOL!

Big is good, is it not??? Especially in the groin area……… well it is for us sexually frustrated and unliberated ladies hahahaha

First of all, No, I never said that I don‘t use protection. With strangers, I use condoms, with female friends, or girlfriends, I insist that they get on the pill, which they‘re usually on anyway.

Nought like sharing the responsibility BOTH ways huh???

Emile Durkheim? Normlessness? Sorry, it‘s been a loooong time since philosophy class. But I think I get the gist of what you‘re saying.

Sociology.

Yes we humans do act and react differently depending on specific socially constructed circumstances. For example, just because I see a hot woman walking down the sidewalk, doesn‘t mean I‘m gonna run to her, wrestle her to the gound, tear her pants and underwear off, and start giving her oral sex! For one thing, that‘s how you catch gingivitis LOL. For another, that would be not just illegal, but inappropriate for the socially constructed circumstances of mine and her specific social arrangement at the time - two passersby.

Never!!! Socially constructed legal consequences sure suck.

Yes, unless we‘re social retards, we are not going to get naked and start screwing everything that moves in the work place, or other inappropriate place. Society does have rules of propriety that we must follow. Certain socially constructed circumstances are not conducive to expressing our natures and some are. I would never scratch my private parts in public or do something else that‘s socially awkward.

We call that etiquette here.

That‘s not the point I was making. I was trying to illustrate an ideological principle, not the practical social circumstances that sometimes do and sometimes don‘t allow the full expression of that principle.

Ideological is just that…….. ideological NOT factual

Principles are immutable and may be supressed during socially constructed circumstances that call for their suppression, but during your free time, you should "construct" (although I hesitate to use that word) a morality which coincides with evolutionary principles and nature‘s plan for you and your species.

Natures plan??? Hum, not buying sorry. My own personal plan is so much better for me.

Certain women here, for example, have a sexual morality which is a Darwinian blind alley and hold to this uptight morality regardless of the practical circumstances in which they find themselves. This is evolutionarily unsound.

You mean its Mr Unpopular unsound????

Practical socially constructed circumstances serving as obstacles to what you want to do in the moment are not the same thing as you having a moral ideology which is contrary to the moral ideology of nature and the universe which created you.

If two adults of the opposite sex like each other, there is no reason they shouldn‘t have sex! Socially constructed IDEOLOGIES such as religion which serve to seperate us into US and THEM and detach the human being from his or her own natural source and prevents them from seeing the essential oneness of  existence (namely, that which is essence in you is also essence in me and therefore, there is no reason to be afraid to merge the two) are the ones which are based on lies - social brainwashings saying things like, women shouldn‘t enjoy sex, blah, blah.

BS, women should enjoy sex as much as men. There is NO reason that 2 consenting, mutually attractive people shouldn’t have sex. Unless they are committed to others.

We can have socially constructed circumstances and react accordingly to them but let‘s not have socially constructed ideological lies which serve to separate us from the truth of our natural instincts and prevent us from fulfilling those instincts and truly living life to the fullest. That‘s all I‘m saying.

Natural instincts vary from person to person. You gonna try and explain away bravery, cowardice, honesty, lying etc. All traits are born of natural instinct. What makes all those instincts vary then?? Not the fact that nature differs too….. surely……….. like brown eyes versus blue eyes and tall versus short etc???

I hope I‘ve at least somewhat clarified my position.  

Hell yeah, you’ve reinforced your own personal opinion well.