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nstevens
  Posted: 8/25/2008 11:23 PM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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All I can say is be careful ,have you talk to this woman and even if you do it doesn‘t stop them from doing it.I wounder if this womans h knows that she is talking to you.

you are right thou he should be talking to you and not her,because she will tell him what he wants to here .

and is he proble talking to her in the online game to.ask him how he would feel if you where doing what he was .

hopefuly others with have more to say to you.



lorrie
  Posted: 8/26/2008 5:19 AM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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savana wrote:
No I never have talked to her. But they don‘t play games online according to him. They talk o the phone. I did tell him ..How would yo feel if I did the same...His reply WE ARE JUST FRIENDS. Sure you are 8 years talking to her. He has to give it up or I will leave him. I tired of trying to figure what will pop up next if I find another. I do need advice as I can not believe this guy at this point. I am disappointed in him. That he would think nothing of it and it hurt me and I told him that.


has he ever met her?


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  Posted: 8/26/2008 7:01 AM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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Oh how familiar your story sounds!

Stick it to him!  You will find out which relationship is more important, the one he has with you or the secret crap he has with her. 

I would put money down there is a secret email account on your computer.

If he truly loves you and cherishes what you have together he will get rid of this woman and kiss your rear till it‘s raw so you don‘t dump his sneaky ass!  Only thing is..........how will you ever trust him completely after this???????



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  Posted: 8/26/2008 7:16 AM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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The mere fact that he told this OW that you two broke up is a huge sign that he wants more to do with her.  He is not to be trusted...IMO.  I think Busty‘s right...there‘s a secret email account somewhere.  Snooping is a waste of time and energy.  You already know enough and you have a life to live.  You‘re entitled to be happy while doing it.

It sounds like decision time to me.  Calm your mind, set your emotions aside and look strictly at the facts.  Then go from there.

Best of luck to you!  Keep us posted, please.



Tiredmomma
  Posted: 8/26/2008 7:35 AM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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I play 2 online games and I know a LOT of people thru those games. Some I have know for close to 7 years others 1-4 years. However my husband knows them ALL too. I have talked to some on the phone (had some connection problem and they wondered where I was) but that was it, we didn‘t discuss personal stuff.

Hubby actually has been the one calling the "guys & gals" we play with and talking with them on the phone. He would sit and talk to them right in front of me so that really didn‘t bother me.

Does he have Teamspeak/Ventrilo on his computer? or does he only talk to her over the phone?

Telling him he can never talk to her again is going to make him resentful of you which is kinda ridicilious since you didn‘t do anything wrong. He will continue it ,I bet you, maybe just be more careful about it. But you need to put your foot down.

If they started to pick up the phone after they quit the game I‘d be wondering how long they have been chatting about these things before they quit the game.

He need to work the problems the two of you have out BEFORE he starts to "counsil"  friends about their problems.

I‘d check the computer‘s history and see if he has an alternative email.

TM




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  Posted: 8/26/2008 5:43 PM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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Have you sat him down and told him WHAT you expect out of him? And ask him what he expect out of you?

I you believe you two have something to build on then I would work on it, but remember you can‘t do it alone. It takes two and quite frankly if he isn‘t willing what is the future for you two?

Once think I have learned after 10 years is this. You can not make them change a darn thing.. unless they wish to change themselves. And at times when they do change something out of love or whatnot - they resent it sooner or later.

And yes, I do think a LOT of men likes to play knight in shining armor and "rescue" women who are in farked up relationships yet aren‘t able to work on the relationship they are in.. It‘s always easier to tell someone what to do then to do it yourself.

Take some time and rethink your priorities - for you and for how you want a relationship to work. Then discuss it with him - if he is willing to work on stuff you might have a chance together.

Good luck,
TM




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  Posted: 8/28/2008 7:08 AM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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sorry i haven‘t got back to you, i did get this in my email and thought you would like to read it. good luck.

 

My boyfriend is really friendly with a female co-worker and it‘s
driving me crazy. They eat lunch together every day (just the two
of them), they IM each other all day long even though they work a
few cubicles away, and they‘re always going out for happy hour
drinks after work. I‘m never invited.

He told me she wasn‘t attractive, but when I met her (by accident,
we bumped into her on the street) I was floored by how pretty she
is. I‘m even more freaked out by how stand-offish she was to me.
It seemed like she went out of her way to reference all of their
inside jokes in front of me so I‘d feel left out.

My boyfriend says that there‘s never been any physical contact
whatsoever - she‘s just a ‘buddy‘ and that he‘s in love with me.
She‘s engaged to another guy and my boyfriend claims that the
fiancé is fine with the situation.

Am I being unreasonable or is this inappropriate?

Green with jealousy,
Katrina
Needham, MA"


********************************************************************

PAIGE‘S DATING DISH TIP: "To Save Your Relationship, You Need to
                         Set Boundaries"

********************************************************************

My response:

To Arielle, Katrina, and anyone else who may be experiencing a
similar dilemma...

First things first: NO... you are NOT being unreasonable or overly
possessive. Your reaction - confusion, hurt, feeling insecure or
threatened - is absolutely normal under the circumstances. If the
relationship your boyfriend has with his girl "friend" or work
"buddy," WASN‘T raising a red flag for you, THAT would be abnormal!

Of course trust is an essential component to any successful
relationship. I‘m not trying to stir up suspicion or encourage
jealous or possessive behavior. Your boyfriend may very well love
you and not feel one iota of attraction toward his "friend," as he
claims. However, no matter what his (or his "buddy‘s") motives are,
the truth is that the behavior is inappropriate.

Even if it‘s true that there has been no physical contact, the
level of EMOTIONAL intimacy that‘s present in their so-called
friendship is disrespectful to you.

The good news is that your guy probably never had any intention to
cheat and therefore didn‘t premeditate this situation. The intimacy
most likely developed slowly, over time, without him realizing what
was happening.

In Arielle‘s case, her boyfriend may just be an outgoing, friendly
guy who enjoys friendships with women. He may be more sensitive
than most guys and able to communicate freely, which may be why he
prefers to hang with girl FRIENDS. OR there could be more to it. He
could be insecure about himself and boosts his ego by keeping a
harem of girl "friends" around to make himself feel desirable, in
demand, and with plenty of options should his relationship with
Arielle go sour.

For the sake of argument, let‘s say his motives ARE totally pure
(he just wants to be there for his friends, he enjoys their
company), his actions are inappropriate and are likely laying the
groundwork for a possible future infidelity.

One problem is that he is spending lots of his free time with these
women. (Arielle mentioned that he sees at least two women 2 times a
week... that doesn‘t leave much time left over for Arielle!)

The more dangerous problem is that he‘s become the confidante of
these women - keeping one company while her husband is away, helping
the other one through the breakup of her marriage. If these women
are opening up to him about intimate details of their lives, I have
no doubt that he‘s sharing his personal thoughts and feelings with
them... thoughts and feelings that should be reserved for Arielle.

In Katrina‘s case, the office environment can be tricky...

These days, we‘re not just working 9 to 5 ... 10 hour workdays
(and longer) are becoming the norm for many people in the corporate
world. When you spend so much time in one place, you‘re bound to
develop a social life within the constraints of your work
environment.

When those social ties are appropriate (same-sex friendships or
acquaintance-level, platonic opposite-sex friendships) it‘s a
perfectly healthy, acceptable, and even vital way to get through
the workday.

However, problems can occur when opposite-sex friendships develop
without proper boundaries in place. It may start with personal
jokes - silly banter or office pranks that they share to cut
through the boredom of a workday (think Jim and Pam from TV‘s
"The Office"). This is dangerously close to flirting.

Then they continue to slide down the slippery slope of office
intimacy... for example Katrina‘s boyfriend may start sharing news
of his career successes and failures with his work ‘buddy‘ first
(or exclusively), which creates a bond with her that should be
reserved for his partner in life, Katrina. From there, it becomes
easy to start sharing tidbits about his personal life "Katrina‘s a
lousy cook, but she tries," and finally revealing extremely
intimate details about your relationship, "We got in a huge fight
last night and she made me sleep on the couch." This is very
dangerous, as it is a violation of the trust and closeness a
boyfriend and girlfriend share and opens the door to a possible
infidelity.

If this is happening with your boyfriend, you are right not to take
this lightly. In fact, a recent study shows that 62% of all affairs
start in the workplace!

So whether it‘s with a new or old "friend," a co-worker, or any
woman in your man‘s life... how can you tell whether a friendship
is fine or is crossing the line?

Ask yourself the following questions:

*  Is he interacting with her on a regular basis by CHOICE (e.g.
  they work on different floors but routinely meet in the
  cafeteria for lunch) rather than necessity (e.g. they‘re in the
  same department at work)?

*  Is he overly secretive about her, or does he talk about her
  constantly and emphatically (e.g. "Cassie‘s so funny!" "Cassie‘s
  so easy to talk to ...")?

*  When they spend time together, do they exclude others (friends,
  significant others, co-workers) so they can "catch-up" one on
  one?

*  Are you excluded or made to feel unwelcome when they spend time
  together?

*  Do you get the sense that he‘s trying to keep you and his
  "friend" from meeting?

*  If you have met her, does she act awkward, uncomfortable, rude
  or competitive?

*  Does he confide in her about personal matters? Does she know
  details about your relationship?

*  Does he compare you to her (e.g. "Stop nagging me! Why can‘t you
  be laid-back like Cassie?")?

If you answered "Yes" to one or more of these questions, you may
have reason to be alarmed.

So what can you DO about this emotional infidelity?

Here‘s an action plan to help put a stop to it before things go any
further:

                 * * * * * * * * * * * * *

     PAIGE‘S SIX-STEP EMOTIONAL INFIDELITY ACTION PLAN:

                 * * * * * * * * * * * * *

1. BEGIN BY GIVING HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.

  Some men truly don‘t recognize that their friendships with women
  cross over into inappropriateness.

2. EXPLAIN YOUR FEELINGS.

  Try saying something like, "I love the relationship that we have
  and I trust YOU, but I am uncomfortable with how close you are
  to Cassie."

3. CLARIFY THAT IT‘S NOT THE MOTIVE, IT‘S THE BEHAVIOR.

  Your boyfriend may truly see nothing wrong with his special
  friendship, especially if he truly has no romantic feelings
  toward her. Explain calmly that his motives behind the
  friendship are not in question, but that his behavior (spending
  one-on-one time with her, confiding in one another, not
  integrating you into the friendship) is inappropriate for
  someone in a committed relationship and it needs to change.

4. SET SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES.

  Let your boyfriend know, in no uncertain terms, what you are and
  are not comfortable with. For example, "I‘d prefer that you and
  Cassie not spend time alone, but I‘d be happy to go out as a
  group."

5. GET PROACTIVE ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP.

  Show your boyfriend that he doesn‘t need to look to another
  woman to get his emotional needs met. You can do this by
  demonstrating more of an interest in his life. For example,
  instead of just saying, "Hi honey, how was your day," try
  getting more specific, "So...tell me about the big client pitch
  today!"

6. RESPECT YOURSELF ENOUGH TO FOLLOW THROUGH IF HE DOESN‘T
  RESPECT YOUR BOUNDARIES.

  If your boyfriend violates the boundaries that you set (or
  refuses to agree to them in the first place), break off the
  relationship. He can‘t have his cake and eat it too, and you
  deserve to be with a man who will make you the #1 woman in his
  life... NO CONTEST.



nstevens
  Posted: 8/28/2008 3:07 PM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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savana wrote:

Well I confronted him yesterday. I told him that I feel that since he discussed our breakup with this woman. That he continues talking to her that it hurts me as he needed to talk to me about our problems and not others. We made a promise not to discuss "US" with no one else when we got back together because he spouted off to strangers about during our breakup and with my gf when we got back together. Which I found out about. I was furious. I never discusse us during the breakup or after. I disconnect from my so called male friends I assumed he did the same. He has violates my trust twice that I confronted him with and then I found out about this woman. He doesn‘t see it as a violation.

He says she is his friend , they never met and he talked to her during the relation with me for the 7 years and a year before we met.

Iasked what do you two talk about and please don‘t no keep it from me that they chit chatted if it is totally not a relationship.

Well, I got in reply. It is none of your fuking business. I feel that you are trying to controll me.

I got totally pissed off and told him I cut my ties with all my male friends after we became a couple out of respect to our relationship. That I discontinued my male friends I made during the break up period. Because t is almost impossible to be just friends with the opposite sex.

He will not severe this friendship with the woman. He sees nothing wrong with it. I told him I felt betrayed by this since he seems to always has a woman to talk to and Questioned if he still was talking to the female he was dating during our breakup. He says No but I really don‘t trust that he continues.

I told hm I don‘t want to be with him any more. We do not have sexual relationships anymore that he was control of when or if we have sex. I hate that part. Now he has a stomach hernia and I know that we will not have sex for a lonnnnnngggg time now. I feel disconnected.

We talked some more. Which he hates to do! I told him if there is one more incident that I am totally out of his life. It is in his hands if he want to make it work proving to me NO MORE FEMALES "FRIENDS TO TALK TO!" I know he will **** up and a matter of time I will be gone from him. As I always find out.

I know once they do they always do it. BUT if he wants me then he has to respect me.

BTW: One of my girlfiends that he did not realize was my gf. Was talking to him. She didn‘t know he was my ex bf. Told me about this guy she met on line then showed me his pic. Yes it was him. She told him we were gfs and that she would not go out with him. He wrote her back he knew it was wrong but he still wanted to fck her. To be fair thatis how we got back together was over that incident. She moved off island now she is coming back to the Island this week and I am sick to my stomach that since we are rocky now in our relationship he will try to hit her up even when he said he made a mistake and wasn‘t thinking with the right head. She is really attractive and blonde just like he like. Which by the way I change my hair during the breakup to blonde and then we got back together and he always liked me as redhead So I changed back to red. I did it to see if it turned him on more for me to be red again. IT DID NOTHING and I am going back to blonde I really liked being blonde better. So my experiment didn‘t work changing colors.

I told him he makes me feel unattractive and not desirable. I asked how he would feel if I did the same. He said it was ok and he didn‘t care. He said it is not his fault but my own feeling doing it to me.

I told him since we are not having sex that I was going to get a fck buddy and remain in the relationship. Well he didn‘t like that so much. But I warned him. I can only wait to see if he shapes up. He never was like this before. He says I focus to much on having sex( Why? becuase we don‘t bond sexually now) and it makes him not want to have sex with me. Sounds crazy but I am going to open my eyes up for some attrative men now and lay my groundwork for breaking it off with him.

Thoughts anyone??

I am totally exhasted by him and feel like a loser now.



why are you wasting your time on him,you are not married to him and if you have no children with him .Just end it .two wrongs wont make a right.

and he is not caring about how you feel ,he is cheating on you and he knows this,even if he has not sleep with her yet and who knows who eles he has to to on line beside your friend.

get check by your doctor incase he has meet someone,since he is not man enogh to tell you the truth.

 



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  Posted: 8/29/2008 2:02 PM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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Dear Savana.

I´m with NStevens on this one.

I suspect you already feel/know your love is dead, sorry.

I think some time from now you are going to look back at this relationship and realize with hindsight that you for a long time deep down knew that it wasnt going anywhere.

You have listed so many things wrong with your relationship. Why waste a precious life on arguments, suspicion and lack of intimacy-the days spent wont come back.

 

 

Yasmina

 

 

 

 



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  Posted: 8/29/2008 3:13 PM Subject: BF calls woman he met online playing games. 
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1. Regaining trust is hard. He‘s broken your trust a few times already. It seems like a pattern. You really want to continue what you two have?

2. If you think the two of you are done. Be done with it. Don‘t drag it out. For your sake, not for his.

3. I actually believe a guy can have female friends and visa versa. I have quite a few male friends. However, if my husband had felt threatened by any of them I would have listened to him. And hubby knows them all.

4. He‘s already decided that his friendship with HER is more important to him, then the relationship he has with you. Don‘t think there is anything you can do or say that would change his mind. He doesn‘t think he is doing anything wrong.

5. Don‘t go find a F*** buddy. Find one after you have broken up - moved apart - is DONE with this relationship. Two wrongs never ever make a right.

6. The sex. Hmm. He is in control all the time when and where you two have sex? and you felt that was ok? It‘s not. Of course with a hernia it‘s harder to do a whole lot BUT that doesn‘t mean you guys can‘t please each other.. less vigorious. In my mind,  it seems like he really don‘t feel sexually attracted to you at the moment.

Good luck,
TM


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