Uh...there is a huge difference between the poster of this thread and you ramble.....YOU CHEATED ON YOUR HUSBAND with this other MM.
First of all..............
YOU CAN NOT SHAME ME!
There is nothing to be ashamed of when a person is VICTIMIZED!
You are NOTHING to me, but a bitter betrayed man who has no idea what I have endured at the hand of not one, but multiple ABUSERS!
I do NOT have to justify ANYTHING to a BITTER ASSHOLE LIKE YOURSELF..YOU are projecting ALL of your hatred towards your ex wife..onto women you dont‘ even know..let alone have the RIGHT to judge without knowing SHIT about the circumstances of our lives...But in the name of clearing MY name...the one YOU are BASHING for your own personal gains and satifiaction of your own anger to make yourself feel SUPERIOR and as though you are NOT the reason your WIFE LEFT YOU....MY GOD...I would definately have felt justified in leaving someone as RIGHTEOUS as you.And did...when it came to my abusive husband!
For my own sake...NOT YOURS... I am going to CLARIFY ONE LAST TIME...as I know I have EVERY right to my outrage at Exploitive, Lying,Cheating MM TOO!
More so...because he was SUPPOSED TO BE a TRUSTED PROFESSIONAL!
After being built up and made to feel "special....for a year and a half...I thought it was the RIGHT THING TO BE HONEST with my husband..so I was.And did.I LEFT my husband over my feelings for this liar...FIRST! I was SEPARATED THANKS TO THIS MM‘s LIES TO ME and his wife!!!!!!!!!!! I was forced again to separate thanks to the MM‘s perpetual lies. After I was sexually exploited by him..IN HIS OFFICE!!!!!!!!!! I protected HIM over myself..or He would have lost his MASSAGE lisence...and MARRIAGE..and I was afraid of him once i saw his TRUE COLORS!
.MY husband was INFORMED and out of my home..long before I ever let my guards down for a lying CON MAN. I was lead to beleive I was LOVED...and I had fallen in love with this Professional...MM...who I was seeing and PAYING weekly for 2 years BEFORE I found myself laying on his table with his fingers rammed into me.By then..I was already completely betrayal bonded to him thanks to his POSTION AS AN AUTHORITY.
And yes..I had emotionally inspired sex with him thanks to acting on OUR MUTAL FEELINGS...THAT I DO NOT REGRET!
I would be a LIAR AND A HYPOCRIT if I claimed any differently!
That would make me no better than him.
I did it and I meant it...and I feel NO SHAME for following his lead.
But....THIS was not an affair.I can NOT regret being vicitmized by a Professional married man...anymore than I can REGRET trying to ESCAPE my abusive marriage~!~But thanks to my HONESTY...I have suffered alone.Neither man would admit to hurting me.Both used me as thier SCAPEGOAT to hide from thier abuses of me..But...the real reason I do NOT regret following my heart...even if it was completely betrayed...as that it helped STOP my husband from ABUSING ME.I am still with him....and he APOLOGIZED to me for hurting me all those years.(14 before I dared to escape his rATH)..He understood more than YOU ever will WHY i fell PREY.
And i must say..I could CARE LESS what you think of me or how I handled the PAST...5 YEARS ago...because I know WHY WOMEN CHEAT and WHY MEN CHEAT...and it is for totally different reasons.
YOUR WIFE DIDN‘T CHEAT on your for SEX..she NEEDED someone to LOVE HER...and you obviously can‘t because you hate women and feel superior to anyone who doesn‘t follow your RULES.You are,after all..PERFECT..right?
I think she is lucky she escaped such a judemental,mean and self righteous person like you! At least my husband forgave me for being VULNERABLE and TOO TRUSTING and TOO NEEDY thanks to years of HIM belitting me for NOTHING but trying to stop him from abusing me and drinking!
Did you EVER call your wife a"FUCKING FAT CUNT " while she was carrying your child?
Did you perpetually turn your wife down for sex?
Did you treat her as though she was totally beneath you?
Did you SPIT IN HER FACE...and threaten her physically during EVERY fight that she tried to get her NEEDS MET...or stop you from drinking until you blacked out?
Did you force her to take responsibility for YOUR IRRESPONSIBILITIES...in getting not one but 3 DUI‘s?
Did even YOUR family understand How and WHY you TRIED TO ESCAPE thier son?
MINE DID..and that is not the worst of it...
Had I come here back in 1996...I would have been told..to LEAVE HIS SORRY ASS IN THE DUST...that i DESERVED BETTER..
And GUESS just what LINE THE PROFESSIONAL MM fed me..after I told him jsut how abusive my marriage was?
"YOU DESERVE TO BE RESPECTED AND HAPPY."
He was the FIRST person I trusted enough to LISTEN TO.
That was my biggest mistake in this.I TRUSTED HIM IMPLICITLY.
SUE ME ALREADY!
Secondly...I didn‘t regret it..because I am NO HYPOCRIT.It wasn‘t just sex to me. I was FINALLY someone who SEEMED to care..too bad he was an A-1 Liar out for his own needs.
Thirdly...I can totally understand WHY your ex-wife cheated on you...YOU are just like my husband USED to be before I took a stand against HIS ABUSES!I spent 14 YEARS with a verbally abusive ,psoiasis ridden ,alcoholic control freak... I should have DIVORCED BEFORE this Professional EXPLOITED my feelings, trust, vulnerabilites, position as his CLIENT!
Why do you get no compassion...uh..DUH...cuz again...YOU CHEATED ON YOUR HUSBAND and told everyone in this forum that you don‘t regret doing so.
OH...so if i sit here and let people BASH ME AND BEG FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS..and mercy....as if I owe anyone here that...I can stay and what? Continue to watch you people makes FOOLS of yourseleves for, in effect, siding with the MM and MW‘s who BETRAYED YOU by blaming third parties for THEM BETRAYING THIER OWN VOWS?
Wihtout so much as FAIR WARNING?
I don‘t think so..you can NOT SHAME ME.I informed my husband that I wanted a DIVORCE.I have been THROUGH ENOUGH HELL THANKS TO A MARRIED Professionals LIES!!!!
YOu can not force me tot ake ANYMORE responsibility than I already DID...and was NOT even responsibile for thanks to the NATURE of my situation..and the LAWS THAT PROHIBIT PROFESSIONALS FROM CROSSING LINES AND SEXUALLY EXPLOITING.It is called SEXUAL MISCONDUCT ON HIS PART..and i had realized that he was a SCAM ARTIST at the time...I would NOT have fallen for his BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
FYI again.......I did NOT say I cheated on my husband...I said I was PROFESSIONALLY EXPLOITED BY A MARRIED NARCISSIT while i was married and ultimately...SEPARATED TWICE BEFORE IT BECAME SEXUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to his SCAM!!!!!!!!
BIG DAMN DIFFERENCE..and if you dont‘ BELIEVE ME..I don‘t care...There is no reasoning with IGNORANCE!!!!!!!!Your projected ANGER at other women is so transparently about your own Mysogyny...and I do not internalize that type of WOMAN HATING SHIT as I once did......as YOU see us all as WHOREs.Thanks to your WIFE ESCAPING YOUR Judgement and RATH!
Mr. True Blue? Please...you should consider yourself to be MR SELF RIGHTEOUS! NO ONE LEAVES YOU...right?
GO ASK A MASSAGE ETHICS COMMITEE who would have been 100% RESPONSIBILE for crossing professional BOUNDARIES...no matter what I did to allow it.Cohersive consent is NOT consent..and it is considered SEXUAL MISCONDUCT on the part of the professional..Had I known his hidden agenda was simply to USE ME AND LOSE ME..and scapegoat me...to save his OWN ASS...and leave me answering for myself ALONE for the past 10 years..I truly DOUBT I would have had an ouce of MERCY on him.
..But you know something..I TOOK all MY own and HIS responsibility to the point that his wife..after 10 years...does NOT know what a DOG she lives withbecause i I outted him...I would have been seen as the SCORNED LOVER..and if I didn‘t I would have been seen as the Morally reprehnsible...but in the mean time....HE GET"S OFF SCOTT FREE BECAUSE HE HAS NO CONSCIENCE???????That fact I have been called morally reprehensible for NOT REPORTING HIM.says it all......but MY husband knows that I was lured int love and had sex with this asshole...in his OFFICE...and considers me a VICTIM.Sorry...to disappoint you...he is not an self righteous asshole like YOU are! And he knows what part HE PLAYED in pushing me out of our marriage...Unlike YOU.
The MM Professional I was prey to.... was 100% sexual predator...I was 100% victim.I would not wish knowing him on my WORST ENEMY....H eis a danger to society...and i feel to BLAME that he is still out there with that massage liscense...possibly victimizing others because of me.
And the worst part...is thanks to people like YOU.and the COWARDLY,blameshifting... MM...Not to mention...my husband at the time of me finally informing him that I did NOT feel respected or love by him IN THE LEAST..and felt completely justified in FINALLY asking him to leave!!!!!!!!!..Niether man understood about the RULES OF CONDUCT for Professionals in a position of AUTHORITY..And at least ONE of them SHOULD HAVE...THE MM was trained NOT to have sex with ANY CLIENTS...He chose me because I was VULNERABLE..not because I am a whore.But thanks to his FEAR of getting caught by his wife and an ETHICS COMMITTEE...he SCAPEGOATED Me...Because I went to him and knew NOTING about Professionals who EXPLOIT UNETHICALLY...Let alone CON MEN Who use MW because they feel SAFER...assuming we won;t tell anyone.
I told EVERYONE...but his wife.I felt so sorry for her...and ALL BEtwayed wives...but all I have ever gotten was SHIT ALL THE FUCK OVER..for not knowing who or what I was dealing with WAY TOO LATE.
...I felt, but wasn‘t according to Massage Standards Of Practice and Codes of Ethics that are SUPPOSED TO PROTECT the vulnerabilies of CLIENTS...100% responsible as I was not a child...and I went to him....but in reality...I and my chance to HOLD HIM 100%ACCOUNTABLE thanks to him guilt tripping ME about his wife and kids whom HE FUCKED OVER.
Are you really this stupid?
I could ask YOU the same thing..YOU are one angry SOB and I swear to GOD...If I had the chance to kick you in the BALLS for your HEARTLESSNESS towards me..I would SMILE doing it! As I am sure so would you ex -wife!People like you make me understand WHY you are cheated on.
You have no right to complain about being played by another man when you betrayed your spouse. Got it??
Listen...you do NOT fucking scare me.Actually..i am LAUGHING MY ASS OFF at your ignorance!..I do NOT care what you think of me. I am NOT your ex wife! I am NOT your whipping post...and I don‘t think you would have the NEVER to say half the things you do here....if you didn‘ thave this screen to hide behind!
STOP PROJECTING YOUR ISSUES ONTO OTHER PEOPLE~!If you still take issues with your ex-wifes ESCAPE ROUTE..take it up with HER!
And NO...I do NOT GET IT.YOU don‘t GET ITAnd you never will...because you THINK you are so damn morally superior in your own mind...that anything less than PERFECTION is discarded..Nor do I have an ounce of respect for men like you who rant and rave about things they do NOT know anything about..and sit on high horses and spew displaced anger...and act holier than thou...NO WONDER your wife left you.My husband was JUST LIKE YOU ARE TODAY.And if not for me taking a stand...even IF it got totally exploited...He would STILL be trying to rule me with an IRON FIST OF CONTROL!
I do have EVERY right to complain..as I was the ONLY person who TOOK responsibility..while the Professional RAN and HID behind his lied to family to save HIMSELF...not me..not his wife...HIMSELF.
And I did NOT betray my husband.HE KNEW I DID NOT LOVE HIM ANYMORE.I told him so.He was OUT OF MY HOME .He was PRIVY to the truth of my intentions to leave him.I did the best I could under some VERY UNFAIR circumstances...to me!But in the end...thanks to the MM‘s lie and deny motto...and his EXPECTATION that i never hurt him or his lies...with my truths...I separated YET again...out of FEAR of what the Professional would do IF I outted him and forced him to be accountable to his PROFESSION and marriage...let alone ME,
NOT ALL THIRD PARTIES ASK TO BE HURT....WE are DUPPED into trusting liars.......just as WIVES ARE, by duplicitous MM and Professionals who USE that postion to EXPLOIT others!If my husband was anyones Victim...it was the Professional Exploiter!
I am SURE that you are just going to JUDGE ME STILL...but at the very least...I was HONEST with myself, my husband...and that is NOT cheating.
The ONLY things I regret are trying to get anyone to understand what happened to me...in not divorcing my husband justifiably for his YEARS of ABUSES...and for TRUSTING an UNKNOWN NARCISSIST PROFESSIONAL...who USED his marriage to seem like a GOOD GUY..when in reality...he was a damn SOCIOPATH!
Even HE admitted to that fact! And the fact that even though he never took responsibility for exploiting me...he KNEW he was 100% responsibile...and THANKED ME FOR NOT TAKING HIM DOWN!
And I can only say...I learned the very hard way..some men are the most dupicitous, heartless, cowards on the face of the earth for treating women like MADONNA‘s and whores..and you are no better for playing into the DOUBLE STANDARD.
You really need to get off your HIGH HORSE...and get some SERIOUS THERAPY....so you can get past your anger at being cheated on...and understand...that women NEVER leave a happy marriage...unless provolked!
I would bet your wife is MUCH happier now that she had the COURAGE to leave you....sometimes..it takes an outside force to propel us into action,thanks to YEARS of feeling like a prisoner to our marriages!
If my husband had NOT changed..he would be living in a SINGLE WIDE...and i would be sitting PRETTY not supporting him!
OH..and by the way...NOT BEFORE OR SINCE have I fallen prey to a CON MAN.......That means for the past 5 YEARS...I have not been a victim....and I RESENT THE HELL OUT OF YOU ALL FOR trying to keep me in the "whore seat" when I SHOULD not have been placed there in the FRIST FUCKING PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let alone 5 years AFTER the last time i had sex with him!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE MM WAS THE WHORE.he used women..and most likely NOT JUST ME as clients.....and his wife is the one at risk now....NOT ME!
I managed to ESCAPE HIM and his lies...THANKFULLY!
But she is STUCK with him under false pretences....because I knew if I informed her..she would BLAME ME...and forgive him t justify staying with him.
And there I thought my husband was evil...This guy put him to SHAME!!!!!!
I know in the end...he WILL MESS WITH SOME OTHER CLIENT of Married women he thinks he is safe with because SHE WONT TELL oN HERSELF...as I did... who doesnt‘ have MERCY ON HIM...and he will lose EVERYTHING HE CHOOSES TO RISK.
GOOD RIDDANCE is all I can say to MM who exploit OW and thier wives.
NONE OF US SHOULD WANT THEM.
I hate them MORE THAN SOME Wives do..I can assure you of that.
And I thought this was more than a BASH THE OW FORUM...bu I was NOT Warned before I entered this place that there was NO RESPECT for third parties....but CHEATING MM can and do STAY married?
One last thing...my HUSBAND THANKED ME AND FORGAVE ME...for beng HONEST WTH HIM BEFORE I HAD SEX WITH THIS PREDATORY PROFESSIONAL!
We are still together..although i think i would have respected him more had he left me under the misinformation that I had been anything other than exploited....and been happier had he done so.Instead...he USED MY "inferior postion" to manipulate with guilt me into continuing this marriage.
Just like the Professional did.
The frustrating part is this...EVERY time someone like you tries to shame me and blame me...and ABUSE ME...all i want to do is call up his wife and tell her all...not to mention..reporting him to his Professions Ethics committee.Too bad the statute of limitations ran out as I was trying to figure this all out.And now that I fully understand it...i REFUSE TO ALLOW ANYONE TO ABUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That includes YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My biggest regret?
PLAYING PUPPET TO TWO PUPPET MASTERS~
Don‘t worry though...i am suffering for my trusting nature.
Thanks to people like you.
As for my "ramble on" moniker...bash me for that too if it makes you feel better...I have alot to say in my own defense...and if you can attempt to belittle me and shame me..I will NOT stand by an allow you to continue to abuse me as I HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS!
And.... I am NOT LEAVING.There have been many women here THANK ME for helping them. I have every right to be here too...and if this place is RESERVED for the PERFECT and SELF RIGHTEOUS..maybe a WARNING is in order in the introduction page..
If not..GIVE IT A REST.
I have been through HELL thanks to MEN in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been abandoned by both of my parents..rasied by Narcissistic alcoholics,.molested as a child...raped, abused, beaten down by men my WHOLE life...and if I am still standing...it has NOTHING to do with being helped.
(with exception of a few kind women) :)
It is about perserverance and self forgiveness and MERCY on the limitations of others...that I stand with my HEAD HELD HIGH.
If you had an ounce of compassion...you might be able to see past your own anger...and allow others to tell thier stories without BASHING THIER POSTIONS!
I am not ashamed of myself...as much as you would LOVE FOR ME TO BE.
I am PROUD that I had the decency to be honest with my husband...
That I didn‘t hurt the MM‘s innocent bystanders.
That I am healing from being a victim.
That I am WORTHY OF LOVE CARE AND RESPECT..despite my postion as a Professional MM‘s victim.
So put that in your pipe and SMOKE IT~!
Ramble ON --------------with or without your support!